Poll of the Day > Tales of Arise vs. Super Robot Wars 30

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I haven't liked a Tales game since Vesperia, but this one actually looks good and high budget for once. As for Super Robot Wars 30, it's a mixup of a bunch of coolass robots fighting each other, how can you go wrong there?

What do you people think of these games? I'm leaning more towards Super Robot Wars 30 right now, but I'm not hard set on getting it over Arise.

Super Robot Wars 30

arise is cliche and too long, people were saying zestria was better

If I have a favourite game for 2021, it has to be one of those. Got both of those on Steam, I 100% Arise and am currently over 100 hours into 30.

i haven't played 30 yet, but i am a massive fan of SRW games in general; the main complaint against 30 i've heard is that it's too easy so it's probably a pretty good entry point for a beginner

the gameplay is sort of reminiscent of fire emblem but with a much wider array of actions each unit can take. also it has mother fucking gaogaigar. GAOGAIGAR.

agesboy posted...

i haven't played 30 yet, but i am a massive fan of SRW games in general; the main complaint against 30 i've heard is that it's too easy so it's probably a pretty good entry point for a beginner

the gameplay is sort of reminiscent of fire emblem but with a much wider array of actions each unit can take. also it has mother fucking gaogaigar. GAOGAIGAR.

I've played one of them for the GBA or something like that. One of the few to get a translation.

BTW, I've heard that some of the games had Evas in it. Does this one have Evas? If so, which one(s)? Also, does this one have the best gundam(Shining/Burning)?

Nope, no Eva or G Gundam in this one. Outside of DLC, just a whole bunch of UC Gundam entries.

Although there is a Neon Genesis support group...

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Nope, no Eva or G Gundam in this one. Outside of DLC, just a whole bunch of UC Gundam entries.

Although there is a Neon Genesis support group...

Oh, that really sucks... how can they ignore the best mecha series and the best series from Gundam?! I'm kind of less enthused about this game now, but it's still robots fucking each other up, so better premise than most other games.

lihlih posted...

I've played one of them for the GBA or something like that. One of the few to get a translation.

those were the Original Generation games, which is where they jam pack all their original characters into one timeline after a bunch of other games slowly introduce them as protagonists alongside licensed characters. and they were pretty sick for gba games

they got remastered into a PS2 game and then has had multiple sequels since then (Original Generations (PS2) -> OG Gaiden (PS2) -> 2ndOG (PS3) -> Moon Dwellers (bunch of systems including steam, and has an english translation)

lihlih posted...

Also, does this one have the best gundam(Shining/Burning)?

G Gundam is in a lot of SRW games, but none in english. but check out this sick old saturn track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxPy1h_0jxE

the stuff they did for music approximately around the ps1 to ps2 era was phenomenal

agesboy posted...

G Gundam is in a lot of SRW games, but none in english.

It is in T.

i completely forgot console only ones had SEA releases too, woops

Oh man, I got Super Robot Wars and it's dling, but I gotta go to work early tomorrow, so no play for me. I really hope I recognize enough of the robots.

I also picked up FTL because it was cheap as fuck and I heard good things about it.

I have not played the latter, but Arise is okay. I have some pretty big issues with it, but it was worth playing. My sibling disliked it more than I did. If you want me to go into more detail I can, but I am a bit of a Tales of nut, so... might be a bit long-winded. I really liked Dohalim; he's inarguably a standout character from Arise.

RoboXgp89 posted...

arise is cliche and too long, people were saying zestria was better

Zestiria absolutely is not better than Arise. Zestiria was a fucking dumpster fire. Arise has serious problems, but it is more comparable to the Xillia games than Zestiria in terms of quality.

Gaawa_chan posted...

I have not played the latter, but Arise is okay. I have some pretty big issues with it, but it was worth playing. My sibling disliked it more than I did. If you want me to go into more detail I can, but I am a bit of a Tales of nut, so... might be a bit long-winded. I really liked Dohalim; he's inarguably a standout character from Arise.

Zestiria absolutely is not better than Arise. Zestiria was a fucking dumpster fire. Arise has serious problems, but it is more comparable to the Xillia games than Zestiria in terms of quality.

The only Tales games I liked were Symphonia, Abyss, and Vesperia. I haven't played any of the older ones, and I didn't bother trying Berseria or Zestiria though.

@agesboy posted...

those were the Original Generation games, which is where they jam pack all their original characters into one timeline after a bunch of other games slowly introduce them as protagonists alongside licensed characters. and they were pretty sick for gba games

they got remastered into a PS2 game and then has had multiple sequels since then (Original Generations (PS2) -> OG Gaiden (PS2) -> 2ndOG (PS3) -> Moon Dwellers (bunch of systems including steam, and has an english translation)

G Gundam is in a lot of SRW games, but none in english. but check out this sick old saturn track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxPy1h_0jxE

the stuff they did for music approximately around the ps1 to ps2 era was phenomenal

Oh BTW, I tried looking up Moon Dwellers on Steam and nothing came up.

lihlih posted...

The only Tales games I liked were Symphonia, Abyss, and Vesperia. I haven't played any of the older ones, and I didn't bother trying Berseria or Zestiria though.

If you liked those three, you would probably like:
Destiny R was recently fully translated by fans and is a lot of fun, imo.
Innocence R (which fans are working on a translation for). Was shocked at how much I liked this one.
The gameplay of Hearts R (the story is absolute trash but it's a really fun game).
Eternia is of the same vibe as the ones you mentioned though the gameplay is not high-end for the series; it's a sollid installment.
Rebirth (again, fans are working on a translation and I have heard good things about it, though unlike the others I can't personally vouch for it).

And I actually enjoyed Phantasia, though its gameplay is VERY dated. Phantasia does not get enough credit for what it managed to do when it first came out. Impressive little SNES game.

Destiny 2 I am completely unfamiliar with so I can't comment on it, unfortunately. Legendia is an oddball with very high highs and very low lows. I think Phantasia and Legendia could easily benefit the most from being properly remade.

As for the newer stuff... the only one I would recommend quickly but with a few caveats is Berseria. Berseria has some pacing issues, but I think it's the closest the series has come in recent years to capturing the strength of the older games. Arise TRIED, but it was clear that Arise suffered a lot from a lack of proper revision and it is VERY rushed towards the end in a way that really hurts it overall.

lihlih posted...

Oh BTW, I tried looking up Moon Dwellers on Steam and nothing came up.

Ok never mind again, I was getting it mixed up with srw X and V
if you have a PS3 you can import MD for sure though, not sure about PS4 but 3 has no region lock