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Two_Dee
02/09/22 11:31:40 PM
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KeeperOfShadows
02/09/22 11:34:08 PM
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Dunno, haven't played it myself.

Most of what I've heard about it was along the lines of "great game, but poor sequel"

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AlCalavicci
02/09/22 11:34:45 PM
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I like Chrono Cross well enough but it didn't do literally everything right let's not get carried away here

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HairyQueen
02/09/22 11:35:20 PM
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It's not that at all, but it's still enjoyable.

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VigorouslySwish
02/09/22 11:35:43 PM
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Actually Id argue they fucked up even calling it a chrono game

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MixedRaceBaby
02/09/22 11:37:03 PM
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eh... nah.

i liked some parts of it, but the story is completely nonsensical. it was kingdom hearts level storytelling before kingdom hearts.

they basically tell you right at the very end of the game that this entire game was just some set up to make you strong because Crono and all his friends failed to save the world cuz fuck em why not. its just a big fuck you to the series.

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Nemu
02/09/22 11:37:13 PM
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Great game, but shit sequel.
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Sexypwnstar
02/09/22 11:37:15 PM
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The prodigal son has returned

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Background_Guy
02/09/22 11:37:43 PM
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Didn't they shit all over the first game or something?
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WarfireX
02/09/22 11:37:54 PM
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game was a tremendous let down. the only reason people are excited is the sound track

plot was just second fiddle to constant introduction of uninteresting side characters.

the sound track is beautiful tho

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--Zero-
02/09/22 11:39:04 PM
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Good game, poor sequel. Story was a let down for a sequel.

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Ricemills
02/09/22 11:43:48 PM
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Chrono Cross doing everything right, except in being a sequel.

even the creator themselves insists that it wasn't a "sequel".

We didn't want to directly extend Chrono Trigger into a sequel, but create a new Chrono with links to the original.[24] Yes, the platform changed; and yes, there were many parts that changed dramatically from the previous work. But in my view, the whole point in making Chrono Cross was to make a new Chrono with the best available skills and technologies of today. I never had any intentions of just taking the system from Trigger and moving it onto the PlayStation console. That's why I believe that Cross is Cross, and NOT Trigger 2.[28]

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WorsCaseOntario
02/09/22 11:44:38 PM
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so wait a minute. is Chrono Trigger on switch?

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VigorouslySwish
02/09/22 11:46:53 PM
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WarfireX posted...
game was a tremendous let down. the only reason people are excited is the sound track

plot was just second fiddle to constant introduction of uninteresting side characters.

the sound track is beautiful tho

Suikoden did the same thing in their games do you dislike them as well


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WarfireX
02/09/22 11:48:51 PM
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VigorouslySwish posted...
Suikoden did the same thing in their games do you dislike them as well
i love suikoden 2 and did not find it to be a problem at all. but the characters in tht were far more interesting and suikoden 2 actually had a really good plot behind it so the comparison is not fair at all.

suikoden 2 blows chrono cross away in every conceivable category except for the soundtrack. it even had its own war mini game that was super fun.

i did not play the other suikoden games

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Strider102
02/09/22 11:49:36 PM
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I didn't necessarily want a sequel, but, killing Crono, Marle, and Luca off screen, then parading their ghost child form around for no reason and no explanation given as to why never sat right with me. Plus the whole Guile situation.

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Irony
02/09/22 11:57:12 PM
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Chrono Cross is an awful game

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jumi
02/10/22 12:01:36 AM
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Strider102 posted...
I didn't necessarily want a sequel, but, killing Crono, Marle, and Luca off screen, then parading their ghost child form around for no reason and no explanation given as to why never sat right with me. Plus the whole Guile situation.

That alone was bad enough, but to add insult to injury, they lost to a joke villain from the original game.

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DarkRoast
02/10/22 12:02:24 AM
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I loved CC but CT was much better.

Partly because it had an actually coherent plot.

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AlCalavicci
02/10/22 12:02:41 AM
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jumi posted...
That alone was bad enough, but to add insult to injury, they lost to a joke villain from the original game.

I don't recall who it was, was it Ozzie or some shit?

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Yuuko-Chan
02/10/22 12:03:08 AM
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Except in having anything to do with its own prequel.

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dancing_cactuar
02/10/22 12:04:27 AM
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Considering how it takes a big dump on the original, no.
WorsCaseOntario posted...
so wait a minute. is Chrono Trigger on switch?
No, but Chrono Cross will be in a couple of months.

AlCalavicci posted...
I don't recall who it was, was it Ozzie or some shit?
Dalton. The DS version even has an extra boss against Dalton in the Dimensional Vortex where he vows to raise the greatest army Porre has ever seen.


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Two_Dee
02/10/22 12:10:00 AM
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I wake up every morning thinking about Chrono Cross

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Kaiganeer
02/10/22 12:13:51 AM
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chrono cross is the worst game on the ps1
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Dingydang166
02/10/22 12:16:54 AM
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Chrono Cross is an amazing game and the only people who hate it got Trigger's dick in their mouth
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AlCalavicci
02/10/22 12:21:00 AM
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Dingydang166 posted...
Chrono Cross is an amazing game and the only people who hate it got Trigger's dick in their mouth

ok? If ever I was going to have a dick in my mouth it would be Chrono Triggers

even though I dont hate CC

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CRON
02/10/22 12:21:57 AM
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Donkey Kong Country 2
Just Cause 2
Pokemon Black/White 2
Saints Row 2
Sonic The Hedgehog 2

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Flauros
02/10/22 12:27:12 AM
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Resident Evil 2 is the perfect sequel to a game.

It took everything the first game did right and expanded upon that.

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MarthGoomba
02/10/22 12:29:01 AM
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Zelda 2

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Bad_Mojo
02/10/22 12:34:02 AM
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It was a shitty game, tbh

  • 134 Characters and 3 Party slots, one of which has to be the MC
  • Having to grind them all out between Bosses because of how the Leveling worked
  • Battles were slow
  • I hated the Color Wheel thing. Red is weak against Blue, Black/White, Green/Yellow [I think]
  • Only things I liked were the music and the twist in the middle

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Ricemills
02/10/22 12:43:47 AM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
134 Characters an

which mod is this?

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IShall_Run_Amok
02/10/22 12:50:13 AM
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Its one of the worst sequels I've ever played.

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VigorouslySwish
02/10/22 1:06:48 AM
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Dingydang166 posted...
Chrono Cross is an amazing game and the only people who hate it got Trigger's dick in their mouth

Its true

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Bad_Mojo
02/10/22 1:15:37 AM
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Ricemills posted...
which mod is this?

I was exaggerating, lol

And I don't think it's a horrible game, I did have fun with it.

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nexigrams
02/10/22 1:18:53 AM
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Chrono Cross is a really bad video game. Not only is the gameplay bad, but it's the one example of a Square game where the story and characters suck. You got this weird Chrono Trigger tie in tacked on at the end, and the literal 100 playable characters makes it so nobody gets fleshed out, nor do you end up caring about any of them at all.

So weird the love people have for this game.

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Kim_Seong-a
02/10/22 1:21:19 AM
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Chrono Cross is a perfectly cromulent game on its own. But it feels forced as a sequel to Trigger, to the point that every Tigger connection just shits on the original and drags down the sequel.

Wtf is Schala even fucking doing here nobody ever cared about them lol

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WarfireX
02/10/22 1:26:18 AM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
Chrono Cross is a perfectly cromulent game on its own. But it feels forced as a sequel to Trigger, to the point that every Tigger connection just shits on the original and drags down the sequel.

Wtf is Schala even fucking doing here nobody ever cared about them lol
there were always a ton of weird fan theories involving saving schala at the pivotal point of the game.

it was like square had an ear on that and decided to throw her in. but she was blond now for no reason?

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Strider102
02/10/22 1:30:21 AM
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I prefer Crimson Echoes/Flames of Eternity.

I like to think that Crono and Marle are still alive, just trapped in a timeline where all the other timelines are unstable and time gates fly all over the place as they try to make all those timelines right again.

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kirbymuncher
02/10/22 2:14:54 AM
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chrono cross is the masterpiece mario sunshine failed to be

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ultimate reaver
02/10/22 2:25:39 AM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
But it feels forced as a sequel to Trigger, to the point that every Tigger connection just s***s on the original

things not working out well for characters or places from the original game does not instantly equate to "shitting on the original"

chrono cross is a really dark game and a lot of its themes delve deeper into stuff that chrono trigger only briefly touched on like alternate timelines and the concept of predestination. but even then ultimately it has the same core ideal that if you try hard enough and refuse to accept the hand the world gives you, you can break free from your fate. cross' brooding leading up to its happy ending doesn't work without trigger's idealism as a contrast to it

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Kisai
02/10/22 3:09:57 AM
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What? As a sequel, it did NOTHING right.

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Guerrilla Soldier
02/10/22 3:46:16 AM
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it did so many things wrong. that's not how you write a plot, or story, or characters, or dialogue. the numerous characters is like a prime example of quantity over quality. the battle system itself was both strange and a nuisance to take care of. that's not even bringing up the fact that it's the second game of a series.

it did do one thing amazingly well though. that soundtrack. goddamn. that thing is beautiful.

i also remember the layouts of the levels/puzzles/maps, and they were fun and interesting sometimes, so it gets a few bonus points for that too.

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Mibahlzitch
02/10/22 3:48:20 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/8/AAEl66AAC6Lc.jpg

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jumi
02/10/22 5:15:11 AM
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Fun challenge:

Name a character important to the plot that is not Serge, Kid, Lynx, Harle, or Schala.

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MarshallStack
02/10/22 5:29:36 AM
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Im more excited about the Live-A-Live remake.

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ProboBum
02/10/22 6:06:25 AM
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OVERGOATED posted...
RE4 exists tho
Lol no, RE4 is what led RE into the action movie schlock that was 5, 6 and ORC.

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Dingydang166
02/10/22 6:32:34 AM
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jumi posted...
Fun challenge:

Name a character important to the plot that is not Serge, Kid, Lynx, Harle, or Schala.

Lavos.

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The Catgirl Fondler
02/10/22 6:54:07 AM
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Eh... no.

It's not a bad game, but it certainly has flaws, and ultimately I liked Trigger more.

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Shotgunnova
02/10/22 6:57:19 AM
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jumi posted...
Fun challenge:
Name a character important to the plot that is not Serge, Kid, Lynx, Harle, or Schala.
Turnip. Easy peasy.

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