Current Events > Rian Johnson's Star Wars trilogy delayed at Lucasfilm

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There was a time when Lucasfilm was so pleased with director Rian Johnsons work on Star Wars: The Last Jedi, they announced that Johnson would spearhead a new trilogy of films, endowing him with tremendous control over the franchises future. Its been five years since The Last Jedi released to stellar reviews but divided fans right down the middle. In that time, Johnsons trilogy was quietly put on the back-burner, which is apparently where it's staying. In a new Vanity Fair spread highlighting the future of Star Warsboth on the big screen and on streamingLucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy made the now-customary comment about the status of Johnsons trilogy.

She said that the director has been unbelievably busy with his Knives Out films, which, her words implied, will probably keep Johnson occupied for the next few years. Crucially, though, Kennedy noted that theyre avoiding using the word trilogy not just for Johnsons films, but Star Wars movies in general. In her own words:

Rian has been unbelievably busy with Knives Out and the deal that he made at Netflix for multiple movies... I hesitate to use the word trilogies anymore because Star Wars is much more about persistent storytelling.

What this suggests is that Lucasfilm is going to deviate from the Marvel-minded original plans, and focus on director-driven standalone movies. One of those is said to be produced by Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige, but Kennedy said that theres no update on that front.
New Zealand director Taika Waititis movie will probably be the first out of the gate, followed by the (now even more) delayed Rogue Squadron, directed by Wonder Womans Patty Jenkins. While Waititi's schedule will probably be clear after he releases Thor: Love and Thunder and Next Goal Wins, Jenkins has the third Wonder Woman movie and a planned Cleopatra biopic in the pipeline.

Hopefully this is the first step of quietly cancelling whatever shitshow he was going to unleash upon us

Cancel that shit

I hope they cancel it, because he can do much better than Star Wars

I thought it was cancelled on multiple occasions.

I wish they'd just go ahead with it because Star wars will never be good again and I would love to see it crash and burn again

It's really too bad that Lord of the rings is next on the chopping block

Rian Johnson is a phenomenal director and The Last Jedi is a top 3 Star Wars film. He's too good for cringy ass Star Wars fans.

Deutschenlied posted...

Rian Johnson is a phenomenal director and The Last Jedi is a top 3 Star Wars film. He's too good for cringy ass Star Wars fans.

Pretty good satire of TLJ fans lmao.

I rather see a JJ Abrams trilogy.

Disney should have either stuck with Rian's ideas or never hired him at all.

I think he would have made an interesting trilogy but choosing him just to film the middle of a trilogy was a phenomenally bad idea.

forgot this was a thing

I hope Rian directs the first and last in the trilogy and JJ directs the middle one lol.

The shitshow would be amusing.

Whoa, this is actually the first time since before TLJ was released that anybody at Disney has addressed this.

They went two separate rounds of tentative future releases in that 5 years and not once did they acknowledge it.

It will probably still never happen.

"delayed"

RISEofCHRISTIAN posted...

I rather see a JJ Abrams trilogy.

Better idea. A trilogy where each movie has half of its scenes directed by Johnson, and the other half by Abrams.

Rian Johnson is a phenomenal director, just look at his previous films like Knives Out and Looper. The problem is that he likes to subvert expectations and having him do that with this trilogy that had, no end game insight, was a really bad idea. Basically anything interesting like the mysteries from TFA were all basically giant dead ends. I get what he was going for, but it essentially meant there was nothing to build off from hence all of a sudden Palpatine showed up!

TLJ was a beautifully shot film, but it did leave a stain and it make sense why the fanbase absolutely hates the film. It does some interesting things, but it does a lot of stupid things as well.

voldothegr8 posted...

but divided fans right down the middle.

He did exactly what he said he would do:
https://youtu.be/XpqgYSUL38M

I think he'd do really well with his own characters and an entire plotline of his own. The big issue with the ST was the inconsistent vision across the entire thing.

Seems like they're overall not in any rush to get Star Wars movies out in general though. Which is fine.

s0nicfan posted...

He did exactly what he said he would do:
https://youtu.be/XpqgYSUL38M

Was going to post this. Seems like he's stuck up his own ass. Sure, there's nothing wrong with making a divisive movie, but doing it in the middle of a trilogy and for freakin Star Wars is a bit much. Just makes him come off like a little troll. Really though, whoever decided to pick him to direct shares a good part of the blame. That also factors in the part to where they didn't even really have a plan going in with the trilogy anyway.

Him getting his own trilogy means he can't screw up a middle of a story, but who knows what he will do to turn SW itself on its own head. Maybe he will make Palpatine secretly be a good guy hero somehow because our expectations would be sooo subverted.

Strangely though, I did like his episode of Breaking Bad (Fly), but he didn't do something crazy like making Walt into something completely out of character nor did Jesse do a "yo mama" joke to Gus.

Rian Johnson Star Wars 1: They fly now!
Rian Johnson Star Wars 2: They fly now?
Rian Johnson Star Wars 3: They fly now.

s0nicfan posted...

He did exactly what he said he would do:
https://youtu.be/XpqgYSUL38M

Is this actually Rian Johnson? If so, how the hell did this clip never go viral?

Null_Gain posted...

Disney should have either stuck with Rian's ideas or never hired him at all.

They really should've just picked a director and writer and stuck with them the whole trilogy.

The next trilogy should be made by the same guys doing The Madalorian.

YellowSUV posted...

Is this actually Rian Johnson? If so, how the hell did this clip never go viral?

It surfaced back when TLJ first came out, and it's really him. People were just so busy praising the movie for being the opposite of everything people were expecting that nobody really wanted to hear that he was trolling audiences.

Deutschenlied posted...

Rian Johnson is a phenomenal director and The Last Jedi is a top 3 Star Wars film. He's too good for cringy ass Star Wars fans.

This.

Why have new ideas when you can just shove an old character into something?

s0nicfan posted...

It surfaced back when TLJ first came out, and it's really him. People were just so busy praising the movie for being the opposite of everything people were expecting that nobody really wanted to hear that he was trolling audiences.

Nothing about that statement is saying that his goal was to troll.

He's saying he'd rather have people passionate about his movies (whether that's because they absolutely love them and constantly rewatch them or hate them) instead of just making a good movie that's broadly appealing to everyone but people just move on.

You can argue that Star Wars should be the latter sure but most movies designed for the latter end up feeling generic for a reason. That's exactly what The Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker attempted to be so it is an interesting contrast.

s0nicfan posted...

It surfaced back when TLJ first came out, and it's really him. People were just so busy praising the movie for being the opposite of everything people were expecting that nobody really wanted to hear that he was trolling audiences.

Wow I cant believe he said this after being signed on to do Last Jedi

Unsuprised_Pika posted...

They really should've just picked a director and writer and stuck with them the whole trilogy.

That was the plan.

KK asked Steven Spielberg who would be a good pick, and he immediately brought up JJ. At the time JJ didn't really want to do much and wanted to spend time with his family.

So Spielberg took him and JJ's wife to dinner and kind of asked JJ's wife if she would be cool with JJ doing Star Wars.

Which is why he probably jumped ship after TFA, since he might have been pushed, at which point, KK had to bring in RJ.

Punished_Blinx posted...

Nothing about that statement is saying that his goal was to troll.

He's saying he'd rather have people passionate about his movies (whether that's because they absolutely love them and constantly rewatch them or hate them) instead of just making a good movie that's broadly appealing to everyone but people just move on.

You can argue that Star Wars should be the latter sure but most movies designed for the latter end up feeling generic for a reason. That's exactly what The Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker attempted to be so it is an interesting contrast.

You don't accidentally make a movie that splits audiences in half if your movie is the middle movie in a trilogy of a major franchise. I don't think he's stupid. We know from interviews with Daisy Ridley that Abrams gave Johnson a 3 movie outline so that there COULD be continuity across the trilogy. Johnson intentionally tossed the notes out, kept literally nothing from the outline, "subverted" every plot point, and shit out a movie that blew the franchise up and completely derailed plans for the third movie. That's trolling in my book, because he's too smart to not know what he was doing.

nevermind the misinterpretation of what he is saying because you are buttmad about a star wars movie but that rian johnson clip is from when he was directing his first film that came out in 2005, lol assuming he is talking about tlj

tlj is butt but come on do better

People are so desperate to dig up "dirt" on Rian Johnson and so on because they know the more relevant angles are areas they've already faced humiliation on.

CelestialVoices posted...

nevermind the misinterpretation of what he is saying because you are buttmad about a star wars movie but that rian johnson clip is from when he was directing his first film that came out in 2005, lol assuming he is talking about tlj

tlj is butt but come on do better

I obviously don't think he was talking about tlj. The interview was from 2003, and the movie he was directing at the time literally shows up in the bottom right corner. But that's the kind of movie he said he wanted to make in 2003 and that's exactly the kind of movie he made with TLJ.

s0nicfan posted...

You don't accidentally make a movie that splits audiences in half if your movie is the middle movie in a trilogy of a major franchise. I don't think he's stupid. We know from interviews with Daisy Ridley that Abrams gave Johnson a 3 movie outline so that there COULD be continuity across the trilogy. Johnson intentionally tossed the notes out, kept literally nothing from the outline, "subverted" every plot point, and shit out a movie that blew the franchise up and completely derailed plans for the third movie. That's trolling in my book, because he's too smart to not know what he was doing.

What's the amazing outline that we missed on exactly?

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

This. Put him in charge of his own trilogy and it'll turn out fine. Dropping him into the middle of an existing trilogy gives us a slapdash shitshow like with TLJ because he didn't like the direction Episode 7 was going.

s0nicfan posted...

He did exactly what he said he would do:
https://youtu.be/XpqgYSUL38M

lol what a kook

Punished_Blinx posted...

What's the amazing outline that we missed on exactly?

If you're asking for evidence that it did exist and johnson threw it out, here you go:
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/925958/Star-Wars-8-Rian-Johnson-JJ-Abrams-Last-Jedi-outline-plot-script-Daisy-Ridley

She said "Heres what I think I know. JJ (Abrams) wrote Episode VII, as well as drafts for VIII and IX.

"Then Rian Johnson arrived and wrote The Last Jedi entirely. I believe there was some sort of general consensus on the main lines of the trilogy, but apart from that, every director writes and realises his film in his own way.

"Rian Johnson and JJ Abrams met to discuss all of this, although Episode VIII is still his very own work. I believe Rian didnt keep anything from the first draft of Episode VIII."

s0nicfan posted...

If you're asking for evidence that it did exist and johnson threw it out, here you go:
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/925958/Star-Wars-8-Rian-Johnson-JJ-Abrams-Last-Jedi-outline-plot-script-Daisy-Ridley

That's not what I asked.

Because Rise of Skywalker doesn't make me think we missed out on anything special. Abrams didn't have any original ideas of his own.

If Johnson got a draft that Palpatine was alive and Rey was his daughter I don't blame him for tossing it.

tbh i still cant really believe people liked TLJ but hey whatever floats their boat. i was hyped as hell for it when i saw it midnight, only to be deflated immediately in the beginning. i walked out not caring about what happens next, and to this day i still havent seen ep9 or know what happens in it

Rian Johnson is 10000x the director JJ Abrams is. Hell, maybe 100x the director George Lucas is

i just don't see how TLJ was a quality film. it ignored internal logic, had lousy pacing, questionable character decisions. i'm no critic tho whaddo i know

TlJ was the only Star Wars movie in the new trilogy that I enjoyed in any capacity. Hope he ends up with his own triad to direct

Jon Favreu has been doing an amazing job with Mandolarian. He can do a movie.

Also, the Russo brothers would be good too. They'd be my number one choice for a trilogy.

They killed off my childhood heroes.

They could cast any actor in any role and it wouldn't make a difference.

Another trilogy already would have been nuts.

The first trilogy was in like the 70s.

Then a second trilogy in the late 90s and early 2000s.

Another trilogy in the mid- and late 2010s, which was followed by plenty more in movies and tv show content. I don't want to hear about another star wars trilogy until like 2035 at the soonest.

The last Jedi was not a good film. It was a mess. Nevertheless, I do appreciate that it tried to subvert the formula, when it became increasingly clear that the formula was way past stale. It just could have done it much better.