Current Events > I literally don't get why dumb hippies hate GMOs >_>

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I don't get why smelly food elitists want to push foods that don't have GMOs in them. So what if they modified the genes to bear more fruit or resist pests and disease, or have more nutrients? It's literally not going to hurt you.

It's like in Pokemon games: you can spends days farming eggs and doing IV breeding and getting right nature and egg moves, etc. Or you can just use a program and make a legal hacked pokemon in a few minutes >_> The end result doesn't change anything and it saves you time and sanity.

The GMO argument isn't rooted in any science at all or logic from what I can tell tbh. It's actually hilarious to see what people label as non-GMO, because there are only 7 or 9 crops in the world that have GMO options.

Source: I'm a Plant Breeding MS and have worked in agriculture my whole life.

Isn't every food grown technically a GMO, it's just the tech was changed rapidly with modern advancements. Farmers in the old days were technically rooting out any bad crops or updating their farm techniques with anything they could get to get the best yield.

Cuz theyre fucking stewpid

Because they read on Facebook that eating dirt encrusted carrots is better for you.

It's the good old naturalistic fallacy rearing its ugly head.

NeonOctopus posted...

I don't get why smelly food elitists want to push foods that don't have GMOs in them. So what if they modified the genes to bear more fruit or resist pests and disease, or have more nutrients? It's literally not going to hurt you.

It's like in Pokemon games: you can spends days farming eggs and doing IV breeding and getting right nature and egg moves, etc. Or you can just use a program and make a legal hacked pokemon in a few minutes >_> The end result doesn't change anything and it saves you time and sanity.

Breeding is a part of the pokemon experience.

GMO is chemicals and I can't pronounce them.

These seem relevant...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/6/1/AAEhCpAADa4x.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/6/2/AAEhCpAADa4y.jpg

I don't know anything about GMOs and will eat whatever but I just have to be a little skeptical of how much of the science backing the long term safety of GMOs is funded by the same umbrella of companies that produces GMO food.

what a weird question, the answer is already in the question itself.

David1988 posted...

I don't know anything about GMOs and will eat whatever but I just have to be a little skeptical of how much of the science backing the long term safety of GMOs is funded by the same umbrella of companies that produces GMO food.

Why wouldnt they be safe?

The_Creep_2020 posted...

Why wouldnt they be safe?

How do you know you didn't accidentally introduce a hyper-cyanide gene in there?
Apart from, you know the analysis and shit that goes on before GMOs hit the market.

The_Creep_2020 posted...

Why wouldnt they be safe?

Don't know much about it to know, but it's not like there haven't been products in the market backed by the science of the time that it was safe like cigarettes, or cocaine, or even medical procedures like lobotomies.

Questionmarktarius posted...

How do you know you didn't accidentally introduce a hyper-cyanide gene in there?
Apart from, you know the analysis and shit that goes on before GMOs hit the market.

Good point. We should stick to natural foods like cassava. Theyre perfectly safe!

gmo hate isnt really a hippie thing anymore, its more of the realm of the kind of weirdos that post on /r/nutrition and tell you all your health problems can be solved by eating cauliflour

The_Creep_2020 posted...

Theyre perfectly safe!

So are mangoes
...and cashews.
...and potatoes.
...and brazilnuts
...and peanuts

It shouldn't be a health issue so much as it should be a political one. The genetic copyright fuckery that the major agricultural companies participate in is awful.

I always thought it was more the business aspects and shady dealings than the gmos themselves that were hated?

ultimate reaver posted...

gmo hate isnt really a hippie thing anymore, its more of the realm of the kind of weirdos that post on /r/nutrition and tell you all your health problems can be solved by eating cauliflour

Dont forget apple cider vinegar enemas

Edit: oh god theyre actually real.

At the height of the pandemic it always left me scratching my head to talk to people that were ranting about anti-vax people hating science and then would tell me I shouldn't go to King Soopers (Krogers) because if its not organic it will give me ultra cancer without any evidence.

Anti-vax, and organic people are eating fruit from the same tree.

Gooniebird posted...

It shouldn't be a health issue so much as it should be a political one. The genetic copyright fuckery that the major agricultural companies participate in is awful.

Okay, that's fair.

Xatrion posted...

It's the good old naturalistic fallacy rearing its ugly head.

This

I dont blame them too muchlike 90% of the time you put the safety of stuff in the hands of corporate industry they will cut whatever corners they can and it ends up going to absolute shit. And in the media its like 99% of the time. So when some company is like hey we are gonna Jurassic Park some better tomatoes or whatever I dont necessarily think people are crazy for being concerned, even if they are wrong about them being unsafe.

David1988 posted...

I don't know anything about GMOs and will eat whatever but I just have to be a little skeptical of how much of the science backing the long term safety of GMOs is funded by the same umbrella of companies that produces GMO food.

GMO safety evaluations are conducted by the EPA/USDA on specific transformation events for years prior to open field trials even.

Gooniebird posted...

It shouldn't be a health issue so much as it should be a political one. The genetic copyright fuckery that the major agricultural companies participate in is awful.

Gooniebird posted...

It shouldn't be a health issue so much as it should be a political one. The genetic copyright fuckery that the major agricultural companies participate in is awful.

A lot of the complaints people have actually end up being against Plant Variety Protections (PVPs) which apply to all sold commercial seeds, GMO or not. Without those, there would be no reason for companies to try and produce newer and better seed, so we'd still be planting inbred corn lines like in the 60s.

Look if you eat GMO strawberries then the strawberry DNA will attach itself to the DNA in your stomach lining and permanently alter your genetic structure and you'll live the rest of your life as a disgusting half-human, half-fruit monstrosity.

Anti-GMO people are some of the dumbest fucking humans alive.

And that says a lot in a world where Astrology believers, flat-earthers, anti-vaxxers and Republicans exist.

DeadBankerDream posted...

Anti-GMO people are some of the dumbest fucking humans alive.

And that says a lot in a world where Astrology believers, flat-earthers, anti-vaxxers and Republicans exist.

To be fair, the overlap between Anti-GMO and one or more of those groups is pretty high.

CrackerJacker07 posted...

Isn't every food grown technically a GMO, it's just the tech was changed rapidly with modern advancements. Farmers in the old days were technically rooting out any bad crops or updating their farm techniques with anything they could get to get the best yield.

Yes

I love breeding Pokemon.
I do it for weeks on end

Poorly posted...

Breeding is a part of the pokemon experience.

Breeding sucks!

GMOs aren't inherently bad, they can actually be very good.

Unfortunately, often instead of making crops more resistant to pests, they make crops more resistant to pesticides, so they can use more, which poisons us too.

why you gotta hate on the hippies? lots of non-hippies are against GMOs, too.

I think it stemmed from the business practices of Mansanto and the other big companies. Buying out or just aggressively out producing the local small guys.
GMOs are going to be required to feed us during the upcoming droughts

NeonOctopus posted...

Breeding sucks!

@Vegy

Because they're dumb hippies.

It's such a pain to have even the best gourmet places around still go with the GMO boogeyman meme, just because it sells.

@gmo7897

They're pretty much on the same level as antivaxxers, people who think MSG and corn syrup are worse than salt and sugar, vegans, etc

There's nothing wrong with GMO's, there IS however a problem with GMO seed manufacturers like Monsanto who do some real scummy shit to corner the market and lock farmers into shitty contracts.

The best argument I've heard for it is that it becomes a market for itself.

I think that often it's about people being skeptical towards big corporations like Monsanto, which they should be, but then they project that skepticism and fear onto something they don't understand (GMOs). And of course there are actors who want to make money off of people's fears.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

Unfortunately, often instead of making crops more resistant to pests, they make crops more resistant to pesticides, so they can use more, which poisons us too.

The increased use of pesticides is a big problem. We are using too many pesticides on crops as well as on lawns.

Pesticide run off causes algae blooms which screws up the life in waterways.

I have a home garden. I can notice the drop in bees. I remember as a kid having tons of bees around in the summer. Even 10 years ago I would see multiple bees when checking my garden. The last couple of years they are scarce.

Pesticides are ruining things. I am all for anything that makes us rethink how much we use them.

Cuticrusader09 posted...

The increased use of pesticides is a big problem. We are using too many pesticides on crops as well as on lawns.

Pesticide run off causes algae blooms which screws up the life in waterways.

I have a home garden. I can notice the drop in bees. I remember as a kid having tons of bees around in the summer. Even 10 years ago I would see multiple bees when checking my garden. The last couple of years they are scarce.

Pesticides are ruining things. I am all for anything that makes us rethink how much we use them.

It's literally impossible to not use them on a big scale. There will be nothing in shops that don't use them.

dan_da_man posted...

It's literally impossible to not use them on a big scale. There will be nothing in shops that don't use them.

But GMOs could be used so they need less pesticides, when instead they're used so they can use more pesticides. This is bad.

dan_da_man posted...

It's literally impossible to not use them on a big scale. There will be nothing in shops that don't use them.

If we dont slow down there will be nothing in shops because we are doing something to kill off the pollinators. I had to hand pollinate my zucchini this year because there werent enough bees around to do it. You dont get the vegetables if the female flower isnt pollinated. Big scale farms cant do that.

LeoRavus posted...

vegans

Having a different set of morals is not the same as believing actual bullshit (though certianly, one could argue that trying to force that on others is comparably annoying).

NeonOctopus posted...

Breeding sucks!

Never say dis