Current Events > BMW now charging $18 a month for heated seats, among other onboard DLC options

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voldothegr8
07/12/22 8:10:58 AM
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How do you feel about car microtransactions?




https://www.theverge.com/2022/7/12/23204950/bmw-subscriptions-microtransactions-heated-seats-feature

BMW is now selling subscriptions for heated seats in a number of countries the latest example of the companys adoption of microtransactions for high-end car features.

A monthly subscription to heat your BMWs front seats costs roughly $18, with options to subscribe for a year ($180), three years ($300), or pay for unlimited access for $415.

Its not clear exactly when BMW started offering this feature as a subscription, or in which countries, but a number of outlets this week reported spotted its launch in South Korea.

BMW has slowly been putting features behind subscriptions since 2020, and heated seats subs are now available in BMWs digital stores in countries including the UK, Germany, New Zealand, and South Africa. It doesnt, however, seem to be an option in the US yet.

Weve asked BMW for the exact details of this roll-out, but it was unable to say when the subscriptions had been launched in which countries. Its no surprise that BMW isnt trumpeting the news, though. Since the company announced in 2020 that its cars operating system would allow for microtransactions on features like automatic high beams and adaptive cruise control, customers have decried the move as greedy and exploitative.

Carmakers have always charged customers more money for high-end features, of course, but the dynamic is very different when software, rather than hardware, is the limiting factor.
In the case of heated seats, for example, BMW owners already have all the necessary components, but BMW has simply placed a software block on their functionality that buyers then have to pay to remove. For some software features that might lead to ongoing expenses for the carmaker (like automated traffic camera alerts, for example), charging a subscription seems more reasonable. But thats not an issue for heated seats.

Other features that BMW is locking behind subscriptions (as per the companys digital UK store) include heated steering wheels, from $12 a month; the option to record footage from your cars cameras, priced at $235 for unlimited use; and the IconicSounds Sport package, which lets you play engine sounds in your car for a one-time fee of $117.

In the latter case, BMW notes that the hardware for this feature has already been installed in your vehicle during production, at no extra cost. How generous.

I suppose this could be a good thing, buy the lowest priced model and jailbreak it for all the features!

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teep_
07/12/22 8:12:36 AM
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fucking Bavarians

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Doe
07/12/22 8:13:39 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
I suppose this could be a good thing, buy the lowest priced model and jailbreak it for all the features!
Dumbass boomer lawmakers will definitely make that a serious felony

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kawalimus
07/12/22 8:17:19 AM
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Soon we'll straight up have to subscribe to turn the car on. Yeah you paid for the car but now you have to pay to drive it. Don't like it? Well aren't you entitled!
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Mezcla
07/12/22 8:18:43 AM
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kawalimus posted...
Soon we'll straight up have to subscribe to turn the car on. Yeah you paid for the car but now you have to pay to drive it. Don't like it? Well aren't you entitled!
well remember when toyota's keyless system was given to people on a free trial and then they started charging for them and people lost their minds lmao

https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/12/22831105/toyota-subscription-remote-start-key-fob

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DespondentDeity
07/12/22 8:18:56 AM
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This is the most insane thing Ive ever heard of.

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Fony
07/12/22 8:20:03 AM
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They've been doing this for like 5 years now, along with Mercedes, Lexus and a few others. Even the remote start is a subscription for several companies now.

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WrkHrdPlayHrdr
07/12/22 8:20:33 AM
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Car Manufacturer: *Sees DLC work in video games* I have a GREAT idea....

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Kloe_Rinz
07/12/22 8:20:43 AM
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in 20 years your steering wheel and seat belts will bay an additional cost not included in the base price of the car. and you'll have people defending it on CE just like there are people here defending day 0 on disk DLC for games
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K181
07/12/22 8:20:58 AM
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I've said it before, I'll say it again. BMW is the Apple of the automobile industry. You're just overpaying for a brand compared to what other camping bring to the table if you get one.

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Kloe_Rinz
07/12/22 8:22:05 AM
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K181 posted...
I've said it before, I'll say it again. BMW is the Apple of the automobile industry. You're just overpaying for a brand compared to what other camping bring to the table if you get one.
If BMW is Apple, then what is the equivalent of the iPhone? The most premium car on the market within the price range of the average person
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Fony
07/12/22 8:22:20 AM
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K181 posted...
I've said it before, I'll say it again. BMW is the Apple of the automobile industry. You're just overpaying for a brand compared to what other camping bring to the table if you get one.

They're definitely completely inferior to both Mercedes and Audi these days.

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St0rmFury
07/12/22 8:22:40 AM
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I just want to know... does the subscription carry over when you change to another BMW?

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gunplagirl
07/12/22 8:24:42 AM
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Really need to legislate against this shit but politicians are so out if touch that even if they're aware this is happening, it's only because they're profiting off it.

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Mezcla
07/12/22 8:27:14 AM
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K181 posted...
I've said it before, I'll say it again. BMW is the Apple of the automobile industry. You're just overpaying for a brand compared to what other camping bring to the table if you get one.
maybe in branding and presentation.

my macbook pro from 2012 still runs great and feels fast.

a beamer with 20k miles has one foot in the grave

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ColdRainAndSnow
07/12/22 8:35:58 AM
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And if you jailbreak it they probably discontinue the warranty on the car, for heated seated.

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JuanCarlos1
07/12/22 8:52:06 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Really need to legislate against this shit but politicians are so out if touch that even if they're aware this is happening, it's only because they're profiting off it.

Yeah, this is one of the worst anti consumer tactics Ive ever seen. It should be illegal. Theyre charging extra to unlock a feature your car already comes with. Theyre just banking on the idea that most of their customers have money and wouldnt care forking over a few extra bucks per month. Hell knowing the typical bmw owner (my wife works for BMW), theyd probably brag about it.

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Kloe_Rinz
07/12/22 8:53:22 AM
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i bet you BMW will get all pissy as soon as they find out about people installing custom firmware on their cars to "pirate" this, and people here will say its morally wrong because its piracy
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LinkDaLunatic
07/12/22 8:55:57 AM
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the fuck? no really, what the fuck. you pay $20,000+ for a car and some of the features are paywalled? some of the features that were already included in the price of the fucking car. you already bought the hardware. so just... what?
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SuperShake666
07/12/22 8:56:02 AM
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Tesla has been doing this for years, it's all a crock of shit.

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LeoRavus
07/12/22 8:57:54 AM
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Wait so if the feature is already there then you already paid for its components. Or is BMW eliminating the initial price of features they install only to charge with microtransations? Something doesn't seem legal about this.

Honestly if this becomes a trend I'll drive nothing but old cars for the rest of my life. Probably will anyway, fuck car payments

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kawalimus
07/12/22 9:02:13 AM
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LeoRavus posted...
Wait so if the feature is already there then you already paid for its components. Or is BMW eliminating the initial price of features they install only to charge with microtransations? Something doesn't seem legal about this.

Honestly if this becomes a trend I'll drive nothing but old cars for the rest of my life. Probably will anyway, fuck car payments

"Well don't you see? It's about choice! Now if you don't want those extra features you don't have to pay for them. Nevermind that the car costs just as much if not more than it ever did"

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LinkDaLunatic
07/12/22 9:09:11 AM
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LeoRavus posted...
Wait so if the feature is already there then you already paid for its components. Or is BMW eliminating the initial price of features they install only to charge with microtransations? Something doesn't seem legal about this.
you almost guaranteed already paid for the hardware. like, i don't have proof, but i feel like it's a safe fucking bet. they're not going to risk taking a hit for every customer that doesn't pony up for the sub fee. god, this is so damn scummy...
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wackyteen
07/12/22 9:11:12 AM
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Mezcla posted...
well remember when toyota's keyless system was given to people on a free trial and then they started charging for them and people lost their minds lmao

https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/12/22831105/toyota-subscription-remote-start-key-fob
I could have bought a brand new Toyota instead of a Honda but this was literally the only justification I ever needed to never fucking buy a Toyota

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LeoRavus
07/12/22 9:11:36 AM
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kawalimus posted...
"Well don't you see? It's about choice! Now if you don't want those extra features you don't have to pay for them. Nevermind that the car costs just as much if not more than it ever did"

What happened to the days of just not loading cars up with extra features if people don't want them? I'd rather throw a $30 heated seat cover on there during the winter than pay some stupid fee lol

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voldothegr8
07/12/22 9:13:01 AM
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LeoRavus posted...
Wait so if the feature is already there then you already paid for its components. Or is BMW eliminating the initial price of features they install only to charge with microtransations? Something doesn't seem legal about this.

Honestly if this becomes a trend I'll drive nothing but old cars for the rest of my life. Probably will anyway, fuck car payments

The former. The heated seats for example are already installed and you have to pay to unlock the feature.

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pogo_rabid
07/12/22 9:15:55 AM
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Blame Tesla and Elon for introducing and enabling this bullshit.

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VideoboysaysCube
07/12/22 10:01:25 AM
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I'm waiting for the car that forces you to watch ads before you can turn on the ignition.

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tri-sapphire
07/12/22 10:15:42 AM
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I'm kinda okay with this so long as there's the unlimited option, and that that unlimited option is priced in the ballpark of what it would have cost to add the feature pre-dlc days.

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wackyteen
07/12/22 10:17:58 AM
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VideoboysaysCube posted...
I'm waiting for the car that forces you to watch ads before you can turn on the ignition.
"You used remote start, please watch this 30 second ad before you can fully start your vehicle"

"Connection interruption with mobile network!"

"Please watch 1 minute ad"

"Connection interruption with mobile network!"

"Car ignition locked! Contacting local police to investigate potential theft!"

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Tropicalwood
07/12/22 10:24:57 AM
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Being a Volkswagen owner has never felt better.

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Heineken14
07/12/22 10:35:11 AM
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Mezcla posted...

well remember when toyota's keyless system was given to people on a free trial and then they started charging for them and people lost their minds lmao

https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/12/22831105/toyota-subscription-remote-start-key-fob


Yeah, was gonna say. I remember Toyota doing some bullshit recently.

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FortuneCookie
07/12/22 10:39:46 AM
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Micro transactions / subscriptions have come to automobiles.

I keep thinking we're at endgame capitalism, but they find new ways to gouge people.
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Heineken14
07/12/22 10:43:27 AM
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Can't wait for car companies to go peak whaling and you have to buy currency to unlock the features, and the currently comes in numbers that are conveniently just shy of 1 product, so you have to buy 2 packs.

You want heated seats? That'll be 160 Bavarian Bucks. Would you like to go to the BMW store and buy a pack of 140 Bavarian Bucks for $19.99?

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teep_
07/12/22 12:10:33 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
160 Bavarian Bucks
Missed opportunity not calling them B-Bucks

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JLC
07/12/22 12:16:20 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
A monthly subscription to heat your BMWs front seats costs roughly $18, with options to subscribe for a year ($180), three years ($300), or pay for unlimited access for $415.
...so it costs $415 for heated seats then? Isn't heated seats usually an optional accessory to begin with?

that said yes it is a horrid precedent

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fhqwhgads
07/12/22 12:36:35 PM
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Wow

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wackyteen
07/12/22 12:42:30 PM
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The likely step forward is dealerships will offer 'deals' that include heated seat subscriptions or if you complain they'll knock (near) the price of the heated seats off the cost of the vehicle price.

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Dakimakura
07/12/22 12:43:46 PM
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This is the first actual evidence of video games being bad for society.


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Payzmaykr
07/12/22 12:49:18 PM
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Subaru charges me $0.00/month for my heated seats.

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3PiesAndAFork
07/12/22 1:11:00 PM
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I genuinely hope this kills BMW, but I know the type of people who buy beemers in the first place probably won't even recognize how screwed they're getting, and infact will probably believe they're coming out ahead.


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refmon
07/12/22 1:12:17 PM
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Dakimakura posted...
This is the first actual evidence of video games being bad for society.


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DipDipDiver
07/12/22 1:14:36 PM
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You have already started your car 30 times this month. Would you like to purchase more ignitions?
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Spinal163
07/12/22 1:14:55 PM
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Isn't it just $415 one time fee then? Not that outrageous for additional feature
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DipDipDiver
07/12/22 1:17:08 PM
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Spinal163 posted...
Isn't it just $415 one time fee then? Not that outrageous for additional feature
It's outrageous because the feature is already there and you're basically paying for permission to use it
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SocialistGamer
07/12/22 1:21:17 PM
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From Horse Armor to Ass Warmer.

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Hop103
07/12/22 1:23:26 PM
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wackyteen posted...

"You used remote start, please watch this 30 second ad before you can fully start your vehicle"

"Connection interruption with mobile network!"

"Please watch 1 minute ad"

"Connection interruption with mobile network!"

"Car ignition locked! Contacting local police to investigate potential theft!"


That reminds me of the initial Xbox One reveal, god that was a shitshow.

BMW must have a lost of customers with more money than sense to implement DLC on their cars.

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voldothegr8
07/12/22 1:24:05 PM
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DipDipDiver posted...
You have already started your car 30 times this month. Would you like to purchase more ignitions?

God damn it lmao

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A_Good_Boy
07/12/22 1:24:37 PM
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You don't own your car, you own a license to operate your vehicle at the manufacturers discretion. Say something racist online and BMW will ban your ass from heated seats.

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Colonel_Snitsky
07/12/22 1:26:05 PM
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They can fuck right off.

then again BMW sucks so.

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