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DirtBasedSoap
07/12/22 11:42:31 PM
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95% of super hero movies are derivative dog shit

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Xethuminra
07/12/22 11:43:16 PM
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A TV show isn't cinema!
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Freddie_Mercury
07/12/22 11:45:33 PM
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only 95%?

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DirtBasedSoap
07/12/22 11:46:04 PM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
only 95%?
i pulled it outta my ass. winter soldier was pretty good tbh

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MedeaLysistrata
07/12/22 11:46:52 PM
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What else do you want... A constant stream of original and good content is not gonna happen.

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Smashingpmkns
07/12/22 11:47:48 PM
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I don't think he said that

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PrettyBoyFloyd
07/12/22 11:49:19 PM
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I just take them for what they are.

Just mindless fun nonsense most of the time.

Not take it in like something he would make.

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R_Jackal
07/12/22 11:50:08 PM
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Super Hero movies fill a different role from other things for me. They're just there when I want to shut off my brain and watch shit explode, and laugh at bad dialogue.
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Xethuminra
07/12/22 11:51:45 PM
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It's hard to shut your brain off when things don't make sense tho

Movies like Iron Man and Batman Begins made a point of upping the bar on realism and the suspension of disbelief
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averagejoel
07/13/22 12:10:17 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
Movies like Iron Man and Batman Begins made a point of upping the bar on realism and the suspension of disbelief
I don't think they really "upped" the bar though. there's a really wide variety of different, subjective standards for realism; and of which disbeliefs people are willing to suspend

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AceMos
07/13/22 12:16:19 AM
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derivative of what

scorssese is just a old man yelling at clouds because things are different than when he was a kid

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DirtBasedSoap
07/13/22 12:24:39 AM
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AceMos posted...
derivative of what

scorssese is just a old man yelling at clouds because things are different than when he was a kid
they made one plot line and stretched it out to 50+ movies. derivative as fuck.

scorcese makes great movies that actually have something to say.

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Xethuminra
07/13/22 12:44:58 AM
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averagejoel posted...
I don't think they really "upped" the bar though. there's a really wide variety of different, subjective standards for realism; and of which disbeliefs people are willing to suspend
Maybe so but they made a theme of it is all I'm trying to say there

That theme became a trend
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ArchNemo
07/13/22 12:49:33 AM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
they made one plot line and stretched it out to 50+ movies. derivative as fuck.

scorcese makes great movies that actually have something to say.

Mafia guy learns that crime doesn't pay

Rinse and repeat

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DirtBasedSoap
07/13/22 12:58:51 AM
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ArchNemo posted...
Mafia guy learns that crime doesn't pay

Rinse and repeat
wrong try again

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BearlyWilling
07/13/22 1:02:47 AM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
wrong try again

Nah. Stop being bitter that these movies make millions and get over it.

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Punished_Blinx
07/13/22 1:03:28 AM
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AceMos posted...
derivative of what

scorssese is just a old man yelling at clouds because things are different than when he was a kid

How is that any different to how people here feel about stuff like Fortnite and Tiktok.

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BearlyWilling
07/13/22 1:05:23 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
How is that any different to how people here feel about stuff like Fortnite and Tiktok.

It isnt. CE is notorious for hating anything slightly popular or mainstream, completely oblivious to the fact that their few opinions dont trump the majority that enjoy <thing>.

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Heavy_D_Forever
07/13/22 1:08:32 AM
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BearlyWilling posted...
It isnt. CE is notorious for hating anything slightly popular or mainstream, completely oblivious to the fact that their few opinions dont trump the majority that enjoy <thing>.
Popular things can still be dogshit.

BTS, One Direction, Nsync, and Backstreet Boys all make garbage ass music unless you are a teenage girl who's been conditioned by advertising to think it's incredible.

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Punished_Blinx
07/13/22 1:11:01 AM
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...
Popular things can still be dogshit.

BTS, One Direction, Nsync, and Backstreet Boys all make garbage ass music unless you are a teenage girl who's been conditioned by advertising to think it's incredible.

Why is it bad if old directors think Marvel is dogshit though.

When we're his age chances are we're gonna think whatever young people are into will also be dogshit.

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Oubliettes
07/13/22 1:17:43 AM
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capeshits and cinemasnobs have been engaging in deluded autofellatory nonsense for decades
cinema peaked with freddy got fingered

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Kim_Seong-a
07/13/22 1:19:30 AM
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Most superhero movies are essentially theme-park rides, but then so is the majority of stuff playing in theaters on any given weekend. You pay your 5 dollars, enjoy yourself for two hours, and go home feeling sick because you ate too much popcorn. >_>

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Heavy_D_Forever
07/13/22 1:19:58 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Why is it bad if old directors think Marvel is dogshit though.

When we're his age chances are we're gonna think whatever young people are into will also be dogshit.
I don't think it's bad. I was responding to someone who said CE only hates things for being popular.

We hate them because they are popular AND they are shit.

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BearlyWilling
07/13/22 1:33:28 AM
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...
Popular things can still be dogshit.

BTS, One Direction, Nsync, and Backstreet Boys all make garbage ass music unless you are a teenage girl who's been conditioned by advertising to think it's incredible.

Thats the entire point.

What makes you think you are qualified to call something dog shit compared to the millions that love and enjoy it?

Its fine for people to have an opinion on something, but few people on CE seem able to differentiate between espousing their opinion or what they believe to be objective fact.

None of those things you listed are, objectively speaking, dog shit even if we dont enjoy them.


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DirtBasedSoap
07/13/22 1:44:54 AM
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BearlyWilling posted...
Thats the entire point.

What makes you think you are qualified to call something dog shit compared to the millions that love and enjoy it?

Its fine for people to have an opinion on something, but few people on CE seem able to differentiate between espousing their opinion or what they believe to be objective fact.

None of those things you listed are, objectively speaking, dog shit even if we dont enjoy them.

https://youtu.be/991UM2-Fww0

its truly incredible how many people dont understand opinions lmao

you said something i like is dogshit!!! thats not objective!!

yes, this is how opinions and forums work lol

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Nerevar791
07/13/22 1:46:23 AM
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I'll just sit here happily enjoying both the MCU and "elevated" cinema.

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AceMos
07/13/22 3:33:54 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
How is that any different to how people here feel about stuff like Fortnite and Tiktok.
you are correct the ppl who whine about those are just being idiots

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AceMos
07/13/22 3:34:22 AM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
they made one plot line and stretched it out to 50+ movies. derivative as fuck.
this is factually false

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chukklez17dc
07/13/22 3:39:09 AM
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Why can't people just like a variety of movies and move the fuck on

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TetsuoS2
07/13/22 4:38:04 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/3/AAOChCAADcmf.jpg

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Number090684
07/13/22 4:49:16 AM
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Hard to argue against the truth.
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haloiscoolisbak
07/13/22 5:08:11 AM
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Formulaic would be a better word than derivative

But yeah, Scorcese is also guilty of that. Casino is Goodfellas in the desert. He could have at least used different actors

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Solo_Wing
07/13/22 5:51:30 AM
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Watchmen, ironman, winter soldier, Logan, spiderman 3, and Morbius are the only comic book films deserved to be called cinema

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Nukazie
07/13/22 5:57:56 AM
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it's not like i can do anything about the movies they make
at least i still have the option to watch what i want...

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AceMos
07/13/22 6:11:12 AM
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
Formulaic would be a better word than derivative
how are they formulaic

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RchHomieQuanChi
07/13/22 6:14:48 AM
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I'm not under the impression that it's "deep" cinema but they have characters that I like seeing, storylines I'm invested in and they're entertaining.

The elitism about this is so silly

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AceMos
07/13/22 6:25:20 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The elitism about this is so silly
ppl like him are why animation is viewed as just for kids and not having any substance

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viewmaster_pi
07/13/22 6:28:55 AM
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Punished Scorsese

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averagejoel
07/13/22 7:23:19 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
Maybe so but they made a theme of it is all I'm trying to say there

That theme became a trend
that's fair

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Hayame_Zero
07/13/22 7:29:55 AM
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He didn't say that at all...

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