Poll of the Day > Florida Schools to Tell Kids Slavery Benefited Black People

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Jen0125
07/20/23 12:08:55 PM
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people

Absolutely evil
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adjl
07/20/23 4:33:46 PM
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What? "We don't want to teach history in a way that makes white people feel guilty" was really just a dog whistle for "we're a bunch of racist cunglemugglers"? I'm shocked!

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Jen0125
07/20/23 5:00:02 PM
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Absolutely shocked
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Blightzkrieg
07/20/23 5:45:05 PM
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Maybe we should focus on teaching courses dedicated black slave owners and white slaves as a way to counterbalance the negative associations between slavery and race.

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BlackScythe0
07/20/23 5:50:00 PM
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You mean the government of open racist Ron DeFascist did something racist? Who could have guessed?

I mean several years ago I saw pictures of Texas textbooks trying to refer to slavery as "immigration"
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captpackrat
07/20/23 5:53:31 PM
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Next semester they learn how black people benefit from being shot by cops.

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Lokarin
07/20/23 6:08:33 PM
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Why yes, slaves often did receive on the job training...

Dangit DeSantis

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Nade_Duck
07/20/23 6:39:12 PM
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why does reality keep picking the stupidest options

fuck i miss harambe

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BlackScythe0
07/20/23 6:40:50 PM
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Every day I find myself having more and more difficulty understanding how as Americans we stopped fighting fascists and started voting for them.
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josh
07/20/23 7:00:48 PM
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Absolute circus

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GEKGanon
07/20/23 7:21:24 PM
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I mean, everything benefits people in some way, even bad shit. Just because something has an upside doesn't make it good.

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Zareth
07/20/23 7:26:18 PM
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They like to teach that the war was fought over state's rights, and that's true in a sense. The Union was fighting because the Confederacy DIDN'T have the right to secede.

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papercup
07/20/23 7:45:58 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Every day I find myself having more and more difficulty understanding how as Americans we stopped fighting fascists and started voting for them.
Because a third of the country had their minds rotted out by 30 years of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, and unfortunately for us, that third votes, and people that oppose them dont for some reason.

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josh
07/20/23 8:21:52 PM
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GEKGanon posted...
I mean, everything benefits people in some way, even bad shit. Just because something has an upside doesn't make it good.

A benefit is defined as "an advantage or profit gained from something." Please reconsider your point, I am begging you.

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ConfusedTorchic
07/20/23 9:25:16 PM
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Nade_Duck posted...
why does reality keep picking the stupidest options

fuck i miss harambe
https://twitter.com/PostEnjoyer69/status/1680702108876636163


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Nade_Duck
07/20/23 11:06:23 PM
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what the fuck

harambe did 9/11

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Nightwish
07/21/23 2:59:52 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people

Absolutely evil
Once you realize these people believe in absolutely nothing but pushing their narrative and they not only recognize their hypocrisy, they embrace it, you realize the soulless sociopaths we're dealing with.

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AltOmega2
07/21/23 8:30:42 AM
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technically Joseph wouldn't have become a revered figure in the Abrahamic mythos if not for being sold into slavery.
However, the intent of these Florida people seems less than righteous

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pionear
07/21/23 10:30:19 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people

Absolutely evil

I would sue the reparations outta those schools if I had a kid who went there.
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adjl
07/21/23 12:03:08 PM
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josh posted...
A benefit is defined as "an advantage or profit gained from something." Please reconsider your point, I am begging you.

Technically, if a guy reaches on to some train tracks to pick up a dime, but then trips and falls and a train runs over his legs, getting an extra dime is still a benefit he's gained from the whole situation. Saying "Look on the bright side, at least you found a dime!" probably isn't going to go over too well with the guy who's lapsing in and out of consciousness as the paramedics desperately try to slow the bleeding so he can actually live long enough to have a traumatic disability to overcome, but it's not technically wrong. It's just useless, insensitive, and does nothing to justify the overall situation. I believe that's what he was getting at.

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josh
07/21/23 6:42:58 PM
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Yeah, I understood the point being made but I guess we'd just have a discussion about the definition of benefit because for me you need to have a lasting advantage for something to be a benefit.

ie a dime would not outweigh the cost of therapy and medical care so would not being a benefit
slavery has unmeasurable costs that would outweight the "benefit" of "learning skills"

but outside of the argument of the definition of benefit i think we all agree anyway

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Jen0125
07/21/23 6:45:22 PM
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Being forced to learn a skill against your will isn't really a positive imo. I get that farming is a good skill but they didn't want to be farmers. They wanted to be free people.
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josh
07/21/23 6:47:29 PM
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That's what I was getting at, else you could argue that a slave getting fed most days is a benefit (:

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potdnewb
07/21/23 6:57:19 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Being forced to learn a skill against your will isn't really a positive imo. I get that farming is a good skill but they didn't want to be farmers. They wanted to be free people.
yes being forced into slavery is bad but do you honestly believe that many of them weren't farmers before being forced onto a ship
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keyblader1985
07/21/23 6:59:55 PM
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POWs probably get a better understanding of a foreign language.

That's a benefit, right??

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Jen0125
07/21/23 7:10:05 PM
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potdnewb posted...
yes being forced into slavery is bad but do you honestly believe that many of them weren't farmers before being forced onto a ship

Shut the fuck up
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Yellow
07/21/23 7:14:59 PM
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If I ever find myself as a farmer, I hope a bunch of white men will come and kidnap me, rape me, and separate me away from my family who I will never see again knowing they'll all share the same fate.

I hope 200 years in the future a bunch of fat old inbreds feeling sorry for themselves pretend it never happened.
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potdnewb
07/21/23 7:30:18 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Shut the fuck up

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these are scary comments reacting to someone stating the enslaved were not uneducated savages
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Cacciato
07/21/23 7:38:40 PM
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potdnewb posted...
these are scary comments reacting to someone stating the enslaved were not uneducated savages
I believe weve asked you repeatedly to refrain from posting.
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Muscles
07/21/23 7:38:41 PM
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captpackrat posted...
Next semester they learn how black people benefit from being shot by cops.
They'll probably compare it culling the deer population

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Jen0125
07/21/23 7:39:22 PM
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potdnewb posted...
these are scary comments reacting to someone stating the enslaved were not uneducated savages

The way the data goes from your eyes to your brain and how your brain interprets things should be studied by scientists.
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potdnewb
07/21/23 7:40:23 PM
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Cacciato posted...
I believe weve asked you repeatedly to refrain from posting.
in case you have not noticed your opinion means less than zero to me
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Yellow
07/21/23 7:54:32 PM
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potdnewb posted...
these are scary comments reacting to someone stating the enslaved were not uneducated savages
The way your comment is worded it sounds like you're saying being a farmer is worse than being a slave.
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potdnewb
07/21/23 7:55:24 PM
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Yellow posted...
The way your comment is worded it sounds like you're saying being a farmer is worse than being a slave.
not at all my post clearly states that many were most likely farmers before becoming slaves to greedy farmers looking for free labor immorally and unethically
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Yellow
07/21/23 7:58:57 PM
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potdnewb posted...
not at all my post clearly states that many were most likely farmers before becoming slaves to greedy farmers looking for free labor immorally and unethically
Yeah and that part sounded like some justification for the first half, which in fairness wouldn't have made any logical sense anyway.

yes being forced into slavery is bad but
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potdnewb
07/21/23 8:07:12 PM
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Yellow posted...
Yeah and that part sounded like some justification for the first half, which in fairness wouldn't have made any logical sense anyway.
it doesnt make sense that a self sustaining culture knew how to farm that is a very wrong statement
also i can agree that slavery is bad but can disagree they didnt want to be farmers they just wanted to be the free farmers they were before becoming enslaved
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Yellow
07/21/23 8:13:28 PM
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Regardless, I'm just explaining how anything past the starting sentence

yes being forced into slavery is bad but

is likely to be interpreted (or misinterpreted) one way in a topic called

Florida Schools to Tell Kids Slavery Benefited Black People
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potdnewb
07/21/23 8:15:49 PM
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i wasnt responding the topic title i was responding to the person claiming an enslaved group of people that were already farmers before being enslaved didnt want to be farmers
it is a similar mindset to florida claiming becoming slaves taught them farming and its deplorable
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Cacciato
07/21/23 8:39:05 PM
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potdnewb posted...
in case you have not noticed your opinion means less than zero to me
Its okay . You clearly have (many) difficulties expressing yourself.
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Lokarin
07/22/23 11:43:55 AM
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every bike i been on required hand brakes :V

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BlackScythe0
07/22/23 12:04:19 PM
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potdnewb posted...
i wasnt responding the topic title i was responding to the person claiming an enslaved group of people that were already farmers before being enslaved didnt want to be farmers
it is a similar mindset to florida claiming becoming slaves taught them farming and its deplorable

Anyone who plays devils advocate is an ass hole.
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adjl
07/22/23 12:13:51 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Anyone who plays devils advocate is an ass hole.

At least in instances where there really aren't any useful insights to be gained by prompting peope to think more deeply about the subject, like "slavery is bad."

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ReturnOfFa
07/22/23 1:22:28 PM
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potdnewb posted...
it doesnt make sense that a self sustaining culture knew how to farm that is a very wrong statement
also i can agree that slavery is bad but can disagree they didnt want to be farmers they just wanted to be the free farmers they were before becoming enslaved
you're speaking so broadly that it's pointless to even state what you're stating. not every person was a farmer.

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ReturnOfFa
07/22/23 1:23:50 PM
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potdnewb posted...
yes being forced into slavery is bad but do you honestly believe that many of them weren't farmers before being forced onto a ship
what is the point of this observation

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BlackScythe0
07/22/23 1:28:30 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
what is the point of this observation

I would probably get modded for tying to explain, it's that fucked up.
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Jen0125
07/22/23 2:41:11 PM
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And if they were already free farmers in their home country what benefit did they receive becoming enslaved farmers in a foreign country? They already had the skills. What was their benefit?
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