Current Events > Anyone who doesn't vote for Biden is part of the problem.

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hockeybub89
11/01/23 1:30:43 PM
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Biden sucks and it doesn't fucking matter.

That's just what we're stuck with. Not voting for Biden is a vote for Trump, and that is suicidal.

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BlueTigerLion
11/01/23 1:33:37 PM
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What if you aren't a US citizen?

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Were_Wyrm
11/01/23 1:33:46 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Not voting for Biden is a vote for Trump
But not voting for trump is a vote for Biden. So not voting is actually voting for both, which is voter fraud!!!!

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bluezero
11/01/23 1:33:49 PM
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I anticipate losing more Facebook friends next year over this.

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Inohira
11/01/23 1:37:31 PM
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Anyone who doesn't vote for someone else in the primary is also part of the problem.

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ironman2009
11/01/23 1:37:59 PM
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Harris 2026

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BlueTigerLion
11/01/23 1:39:32 PM
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bluezero posted...
I anticipate losing more Facebook friends next year over this.

Majority of my friends post on TikTok now and say Facebook is for old people.

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Caelthus
11/01/23 1:40:10 PM
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Literally exactly how trump broke the firewall in 2016. People thought "oh she doesn't need MY vote", and then Trump won because enough people thought like that.

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DarthAragorn
11/01/23 1:40:40 PM
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I live in Kansas, I'm more likely to get hit by lightning right now (it's a clear sunny day) than Biden to win this state

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Smackems
11/01/23 1:42:39 PM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
But not voting for trump is a vote for Biden. So not voting is actually voting for both, which is voter fraud!!!!


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thronedfire2
11/01/23 1:44:48 PM
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Caelthus posted...
Literally exactly how trump broke the firewall in 2016. People thought "oh she doesn't need MY vote", and then Trump won because enough people thought like that.

Trump literally lost the popular vote in 2016 too.

MA isnt going red

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RyukSan
11/01/23 1:45:08 PM
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Caelthus posted...
Literally exactly how trump broke the firewall in 2016. People thought "oh she doesn't need MY vote", and then Trump won because enough people thought like that.
This.

Whether a perceived sage blue state stays blue or not. The mindset that it's safe to not bother vote isn't a great idea. We have had blue states perceived to be safe blue flip in the past.
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Smashingpmkns
11/01/23 1:45:56 PM
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Damn it isn't even election season and the white moderate libs are already bringing out ol faithful

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hockeybub89
11/01/23 1:46:31 PM
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If we all assume Trump can't win and don't vote, then the only people left would be Trump voters.

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hockeybub89
11/01/23 1:47:19 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Damn it isn't even election season and the white moderate libs are already bringing out ol faithful
I don't give a fuck about Biden or moderates. Pure survival

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MobileProphet
11/01/23 1:47:21 PM
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Biden doesn't suck though. I don't think anyone has a legit reason when they say that and if they do they either don't pay attention/word vomiting or lack an understanding of what a president can do. I agree that a vote against Biden is a free vote to Trump though.

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hockeybub89
11/01/23 1:49:10 PM
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MobileProphet posted...
Biden doesn't suck though. I don't think anyone has a legit reason when they say that and if they do they either don't pay attention/word vomiting or lack an understanding of what a president can do. I agree that a vote against Biden is a free vote to Trump though.
I mean, this Israel stuff is a very current reason

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Roachmeat
11/01/23 1:49:31 PM
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ironman2009 posted...
Harris 2026

Oof. I like the woman, but I don't think she knows how easy a road the Gop would have if she ran.

Anyone who doesn't vote ... is part of the problem.

Somewhat fixed. Then those same people will likely say later on "my vote doesn't matter anyway." Even someone like me that always blames the congressional maps can still put on some decent pants and go pull a lever.

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C_Pain
11/01/23 1:50:37 PM
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What's wrong with Trump?

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CountCorvinus
11/01/23 1:51:49 PM
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Democratic socialist here. Agreed.

In the primary I vote for those whose policies most align with mine.
In the general, I vote for harm reduction.

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Daremo
11/01/23 1:52:28 PM
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I'll vote for Biden as long as no one I like better turns up. Because I'll be voting for the candidate I want, not the 'could be worse' candidate.

Because if you always settle for what you can get, you'll never get what you want.

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MobileProphet
11/01/23 1:52:37 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
I mean, this Israel stuff is a very current reason

Not really. He has to respond to the constant media and he's expected to do something because Israel are the allies (even if they're pretty bad too). Can't be bias when it comes to the political stuff from his side.

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emblem-man
11/01/23 1:53:23 PM
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I hope people who (wrongly ) decide to not vote Biden at least vote down ballot

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MobileProphet
11/01/23 1:54:33 PM
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Daremo posted...
I'll vote for Biden as long as no one I like better turns up. Because I'll be voting for the candidate I want, not the 'could be worse' candidate.

Because if you always settle for what you can get, you'll never get what you want.

This is a dumb way to look at things. If the other candidate from the Republican side wasn't so bad I would understand this logic, but in reality it's a matter of voting against the bad this time around just like before. 2028 is when it'll be open range most likely.

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Solar_Crimson
11/01/23 1:54:47 PM
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C_Pain posted...
What's wrong with Trump?
The question should be: What's right with Trump?

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mustachedmystic
11/01/23 1:55:43 PM
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Vote anyway. We need Biden to win by as large a percentage as possible.

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B18Champ
11/01/23 2:00:01 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Biden sucks and it doesn't fucking matter.

That's just what we're stuck with. Not voting for Biden is a vote for Trump, and that is suicidal.

Sounds like you should be telling people to vote for any GOP candidate besides Trump. Biden is guaranteed to be on the 2024 ballot, but Trump is not.

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Daremo
11/01/23 2:00:09 PM
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MobileProphet posted...
This is a dumb way to look at things. If the other candidate from the Republican side wasn't so bad I would understand this logic, but in reality it's a matter of voting against the bad this time around just like before. 2028 is when it'll be open range most likely.
If you settle now, you'll settle later. If you settle later, you'll settle forever.

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LoZguy709
11/01/23 2:01:21 PM
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MobileProphet posted...
Biden doesn't suck though. I don't think anyone has a legit reason when they say that and if they do they either don't pay attention/word vomiting or lack an understanding of what a president can do. I agree that a vote against Biden is a free vote to Trump though.

This 100%. I'm not going to act like he's the best president ever, but people come up with the lamest fucking reasons to not like him, usually with it being because he's not as progressive as they'd like him to be or because he's old. These people, in my view, haven't truly conceptualized having to deal with the entire US population with the multitude of demographics and interest groups it has. Nor do they understand the obstacles you can't get around with a divided government. I may not agree with everything he says about, like about the Israel/Palestine situation for instance, but I know damn well why he's taking the position he is. Showing such contempt for him is only empowering Republican opposition in my mind. At least wait until 2028 to sabotage candidates you think are part of the establishment or whatever shit people call being sensible/moderate now.
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Full_Pokedex
11/01/23 2:02:00 PM
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Fuck no I'm voting third party.

Neither party deserves my vote they both suck big time.

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GeraldDarko
11/01/23 2:07:49 PM
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Wow
So brave

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NPC
11/01/23 2:07:51 PM
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C_Pain posted...
What's wrong with Trump?
The tl;dr version is: orange man bad
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Daremo
11/01/23 2:10:13 PM
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You do realise that it's only a binary choice if we choose binarily? That's the secret the duopoly doesn't want you to know.

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Roachmeat
11/01/23 2:14:04 PM
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C_Pain posted...
What's wrong with Trump?

It isn't him solely, it is the smaller fish that need him in the seat so that their draconian agendas can go forward. Trump winning means you have half a congress and most of the judiciary looking like this:

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Charged151
11/01/23 2:14:18 PM
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Wonder what happens if Trump isn't allowed to run due to legal issues. Does that help or hurt Biden?

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Southernfatman
11/01/23 2:16:03 PM
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Biden sucks, most Democrats suck, and having to vote for him sucks because what other choice do we have?

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LoZguy709
11/01/23 2:26:48 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
Biden sucks, most Democrats suck, and having to vote for him sucks because what other choice do we have?

We can always drive our planet even further and more quickly toward being uninhabitable for most complex life which is what so many people seem to be willing to throw on the line.
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hockeybub89
11/01/23 2:31:54 PM
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Daremo posted...
You do realise that it's only a binary choice if we choose binarily? That's the secret the duopoly doesn't want you to know.
You're right. If we just stop believing in the two-party system, it will stop existing. That's how we enact change in America.

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Full_Pokedex
11/01/23 2:33:21 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
You're right. If we just stop believing in the two-party system, it will stop existing
That's called a dictatorship. Last I checked those were bad. But I guess it's ok to Democrats as long as the dictator is on their side.

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