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Endings Acquired: The rest of em

The final endings are, I believe, various offshoots of the canon Millennial Fair ending, though they can be quite a bit different depending on when Lavos was defeated. If you did the deed before resurrecting Crono, then the party doesn't learn about the Chrono Trigger until later, thus ending the story with everyone making a determined effort to bring back C-dog. Whether or not Magus is a part of this ending (and whether or not Frog becomes human) depends on how the party dealt with Magus in the game.

You can change the ending further by crashing the Epoch into Lavos, but I have yet to find these endings online, nor do I know how to even accomplish this in the game. Smaller changes abound as well, such as the status of Lucca's mom. From what I've seen, my favorite change is definitely the humanized Frog and Lucca's reaction to him. Such a dish!




And well... that caps off two complete playthroughs, all the side quests, and a full-n maxed out level up grind. I'd say that does it for new discoveries! All that's left for me is to rank some stuff and end with my final thoughts about the game.

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Endings Acquired: The rest of em

You can change the ending further by crashing the Epoch into Lavos, but I have yet to find these endings online, nor do I know how to even accomplish this in the game.

This is done by simply getting in the Epoch and taking it to 1999 AD. It is definitely worth it to see this ending once.

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Time to play Chrono Trigger DS!

Ooh, did you see the ending that occurs if you lose in a fight against Lavos (besides the one you're supposed to lose of course)? I looked back a couple pages and didn't see you mention it anywhere.

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Yep, saw it. I thought it was very good for what is essentially a game over. I'll also have to check out the Epoch crash ending in-game.

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My Top 20 Chrono Trigger Tracks (20-11)

I'll give you guys the second half when I'm done ordering it, which is proving to be much more of a challenge than I originally thought.

20. Eighty-eight miles per hour!


19. Lousy Bum, Feed Yer Cat


18. Water Temple Still did it Better


17. Rickrolling in 2300 AD


16. A Respite for Reflection and Full Heals


15. Ahem... There's WIND in My Scene!


14. Jerky? YOU KNOW ABOUT MY CHOLESTEROL


13. Best Game Ever (...almost... in 2004)


12. A Requiem for Brian Peppers


11. The Reason "Millennial Fair" isn't on this List


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My Top 20 Chrono Trigger Tracks (10-1)

Please note that this list is completely rigid. Neither repeated playthroughs nor the passage of time will affect the orderings contained herein. Cries of change will crash like cool droplets on the fortified castle walls of my preferences. COMPLETELY RIGID.

10. Fistfull of Dynamo


9. The Fearsome YAKRA


8. Fight On!


7. Avenging a Friend (who Speaketh Better English)


6. Fanfare n' Fire Magic


5. One Among You... Will Shortly Bob Your Head


4. Best Character Ever (circa 2003-2004)


3. Hailing the Most Likable Party Ever
(similar enough for me to lump em together)



2. Waste Not, Such Amazing Themes, on Me


1. Ocarinas of Time



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Which one is Corridors of Time?

I'm not sure what you mean. It's the song that plays when you reach the Kingdom of Zeal (above the clouds). It's also my #1 track from the game.

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It seems you understood exactly what I meant!

I didn't look at the links and tried to guess what songs they were. Glad to hear it's number 1.

You should check out the Phoenix Project remixes on youtube, some of them are pretty good (Memories of Green, Corridors of Time).

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Era Rankings

I excluded 1999 AD and The End of Time because they simply lacked enough content.

5. 2300 AD
I was told that the tech-heavy and desolate future is universally considered the worst time period, and that if I would get through it without bitter taste, the rest of the game would be a joy. Honestly, I didn't think it was that bad, but it does get topped four times over. The "dungeons" here simply aren't as fun as in other periods, the atmosphere is so depressing and I sometimes dreaded coming back, and I got stuck in those damned underground sewers. Some cool boss fights and the best grinding spot in the entire game bump it up a bit.

4. 65,000,000 BC
The game’s biggest leap in time constitutes a nice leap in quality over 2300 AD. I much prefer Ayla to Robo, and I was a lot happier with prehistoria’s brighter color palette, music, and more optimistic atmosphere. The war between humans and reptiles got pretty intense at times, but it kept me hook, unlike humanity’s awful plight in the future. Some of the bosses here, especially Azala and her big dino, also ruled. My biggest gripe with Jurassic Park here is that some of the normal baddies were on the annoying side, but overall, it’s a big winner. Just not enough to take on the top three.

3. 12,000 BC
The beautiful Kingdom of Zeal – such a wondrous sight to behold, but such a tragic end to witness. Chrono Trigger’s dichotomy of the haves and have-nots features some of the most epic moments in the game, including first setting foot on the floating kingdom, My Sacrifice by Creed, and of course, the kingdom’s splashtastic collapse. The bevy of plot revelations, some awesome fights and exploration, and a few of the game’s most memorable tracks (Corridors of Time and Schala’s Theme are two of my favorites) makes 12,000 BC something to remember.

2. 1000 AD
The present day (I like to call it the “base timeline”) earns its high placement because it does a great job introducing the player to the universe while maintaining some twists and turns later on. I love the Millennial Fair, and damn what anyone says, I’m sure I’ll still love it with repeated playthroughs. The trial and prison break are also cool, but I’m partial to Lucca and Marle’s familial side quests, both of which take place in this timeline. Marle’s is one of the most hilarious parts of the game, while Lucca’s is one of the most touching.

1. 600 AD
The war era is just a treasure trove of awesome gaming. I love the cathedral with YAKRA (yeeees) to help start things off. I love the humans/mystics war; it’s my favorite NPC conflict of the game. I love that damned Ozzie and his gut busting antics, and of course, I love everything relating to the Frog/Magus story, including Magus’s castle and recruiting the green one. Oh, and did I mention Magic Cave? Heeells yeah!

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Not to mention the music of 600 AD might be the best in the game.

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The lovable, helpful, well mannered, friendly mechanical steamroller of Chrono Trigger is my least favorite party member. Now, it's not to say that I disliked Robo (in general, I found the CT party impossible to dislike); I simply did not grow as attached to him. His character design is the only one that didn't really appeal to me. His effectiveness in combat is undeniable, but I found him too oafish and goofy looking to utilize ahead of much cooler looking characters. He is designed as a sympathetic character, but I guess I just didn't bite. He had my least favorite sidequest (he shined more as a supporting character for Lucca's development) and no fantastic lines of dialogue to set him apart. Still, he was aite. Robo Rickroll and all.

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During my intro through the Millennial Fair, I really felt I'd love Marle. She was fun, she made funny quips, and the designers cultivated a good early attachment between her and Crono (and by extension, the player). I thought she might be my favorite female character. Then two things set her back: I realized she was poor in battle, and I discovered Ayla. Gameplay-wise, there seems to always be a better option than Marle. She's the weakest hitter of the game, and for a freakin' healer, her healing magic wasn't all that impressive. She was quickly upstaged by others. As a character, she was upstaged by Ayla as soon as I reached 65,000,000 BC. Honestly, why include two blonde cuties when one of them is so much cooler? Is there ANYONE out there who prefers Marle over Ayla? I wish never to meet them. Marle gets points because I used her a lot in my Level ** grind fest. Thanks for having such quick animation time on that Ice 2 spell, dollface!

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Marle has a contest history while Ayla does not. Make of that what you will.

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From: Kotetsu534 | #471
Marle has a contest history while Ayla does not. Make of that what you will.

It means people are dumb.

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The top five is where I really start to like the characters, but my feelings toward Magus shifted throughout my time with the game. As a contest staple praised for years by Board 8, Magus had s lot to live up to. The lead-up and battle against him was very fun, but the early experiences with him in my party were disappointing. Magus has no Dual Techs and little interaction with the party once he has joined. He has little synergy in battle and interaction, a stark contrast from the rest of the team, whose communication and inter-party relationships make them so great. Magus was set to finish lower on the list, but a few of the extra endings really helped him; it’s here that you see him act truly badass, both in his conversation with Frog (one ending) and his hellbent pursuit and battle with Lavos (another). Due to his quiet nature and lack of a sense of humor, I liken him to Vincent from FFVII, but I prefer Magus a lot more.

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Pfffft, Vincent > Magus

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Yeah Vincent > Magus no question

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1 Crono
2 Ayla
3 Frog
4 Lucca

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Lucca too high already.

Though that might just be me having an undying hatred of Lucca.

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Magus has no Dual Techs and little interaction with the party once he has joined. He has little synergy in battle and interaction, a stark contrast from the rest of the team, whose communication and inter-party relationships make them so great.

I actually loved this. Yes, it diminishes his usefulness ever so slightly, but it fits with his character: Magus is a lone wolf who prefers to do things his way, and having a bunch of Dual Techs with characters he's been fighting most of the game would seem out of place. Besides, he does have a handful of awesome Triples!

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Magus > Vincent for me. The ex-Turk can come back when he learns the age old secret of having more than a single line of throwaway dialogue when confronting his nemesis. Magus knows how to tell a quick speech in a pinch; Vincent knows how to blurt "Hojo...!" and wave his cape.

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Magus > Vincent for me. The ex-Turk can come back when he learns the age old secret of having more than a single line of throwaway dialogue when confronting his nemesis. Magus knows how to tell a quick speech in a pinch; Vincent knows how to blurt "Hojo...!" and wave his cape.

I can gladly point you in the direction of Dirge of Cerberus...!

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Fanfare in human form! Lucca can’t quite contend with the top three, but I consider her a wonderful character all the same. While I enjoyed both her and Marle’s humor about the same, Lucca had the intangibles to push her head. I liked her character design more, and I love her theme, which fittingly doubled as the victory fanfare. I like her quirkiness, and I actually thought she built better relationships with the rest of the cast. The relationship between Lucca and Robo is much more touching and special than the one Marle forged with Crono (I thought Marle/Crono was kinda weak, honestly). Lucca’s family sidequest also propelled her up the ranks; if you didn’t feel for her there, then buddy, something’s missing inside ya. She also had some cool looking magic. She ain’t quite YUFFIE TIER, but Lucca’s got it goin on.

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This thread sure is popular...

Have you seen (or anyone here) the CT OVA? It's worth looking into!

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can gladly point you in the direction of Dirge of Cerberus...!

...lol

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Magus > Crono > Ayla > Frog > Robo > Marle > Lucca

12000 BC > 600 AD > 1000 AD > 65000000 BC > 2300 AD

The entire OST is godly, ranking it would be too challenging. Each time I listen to any of the songs I think to myself this is a masterpiece.

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12000 BC > 600 AD > 65000000 BC > 2300 AD > 1000 AD

Frog > Magus > Crono > Ayla > Robo > Marle = Lucca

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3.


Crono?! Not at the top spot?! Yep, CT’s main character is great, but not quite great enough. His character design, from the hair, to the clothes, to the fist pump victory pose, is all on point and quality. He’s also a (very fun) beast to use in battle, possessing some great Dual Techs – especially with Ayla – and one broken ass ultimate weapon. Of course, he also has some awesome defining moments, one of which has secured him a place in the bosoms of gamers worldwide. He is often compared to Link. With both being selfless, heroic, silent male swordsmen, I understand why. However, I’m not sure if such a character is wholly appropriate for his game. Link works as a silent hero because he is often a loner (apart from the throwaway fairies and guides that decide to stick around) – the lone and primary force for good in his world. He doesn’t really need to talk. In Chrono Trigger, amidst a vibrant and eclectic party, a mute just feels a bit weird. So yeah, Crono’s no Link (DUH), but he’s still the man.


2.


Like with Crono and Magus before, I had big expectations for Frog, and boy, did the ribbit deliver. I knew all about the awesome design and unforgettable theme, but I didn’t know that his relationship with Magus was stewed with so much raw emotion. Their special ending is arguably the best in the game, and I think Glen carried it. I also loved his side story with Cyrus, something I didn’t even know about going in. Frog felt that he had failed his best friend, and therefore, was full of self-doubt when the party met him. By joining the party, wielding the legendary Masamune, and avenging his fallen friend, Frog grew arguably more than any of the other party members. Doubt turned to strength and a quiet confidence. I really appreciated Glen’s story throughout the game, as I did his terrible olde English and freakin’ mountain cutting scene. He might have had a chance at the top position had he been stronger in battle, but I dunno… #1 came outta nowhere and blew me away.

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No. 1 is a giant "dat everything." clearly the reason Crono hooks up with Marle is because she inherited some of that.

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1.


Wow. I was expecting great things from the beloved Chrono Trigger… but I wasn’t expecting this. Ayla (strong!) kicked my ass, stole my heart, and in the process, has become one of my favorite RPG characters ever. There’s nothing to hate here. She is the best designed party member – yeah I said it. IMO, her sprite rivals Magus as the best looking, and her awesome panther run (strong!) helps give her the edge over the wizard from Zeal. She was, without question, my favorite character to use in battle. Ayla hit like a truck, dodged like a gazelle, and stole like a ****ing raccoon from an open dumpster. A fully leveled Ayla is capable of critting for 9999 (or, if you’re extremely lucky, killing Lavos’s final form in three hits). Her Techs – whether Single or Dual – are sick. Falcon Hit and Volt Bite were probably my two favorite in the game and two reasons why I always had Ayla and Crono on board for fightin’. Never had I had such unrestrained, primal awesomeness ooze from my SNES (or Wii, as the case was).

Due to her prehistoric era and limited vernacular, I bet many fans consider Ayla boorish and unintelligent. I ask these fans to reexamine the character. Sure, she isn’t prim and proper, but if you look over her dialogue, Ayla actually imparts much wisdom throughout the game. It makes sense, as I think she’s a bit older than Crono/Ayla/Marle and holds a position of power and responsibility. Unlike Frog, Ayla is self-assured and confident from the start. I know that Crono is a courageous hero, but I honestly felt that Ayla was the party’s rock of strength. She never doubted herself or showed the slightest inkling of fear before a climactic battle. A feral beast in battle, Ayla still demonstrated feminine qualities by reassuring the other party members when the chips were down.

My only gripe rests with the designers for not giving her an optional side quest. I feel that doing so could have fleshed out an already awesome character – a missed opportunity. Still, Ayla emerges with a club, a saccharine smile, and a lion’s spirit to champion this game on her shoulders. Strong!

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Ayla(well, CT in general) strangely lacks much in therms of decent Material.

Not sure why.

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Final Thoughts

Actually, I don’t think there’s much left to say (the last 500 posts can attest to that). I had very high expectations for this titan of 90s Japanese gaming, but Chrono Trigger proved a richer, more enjoyable experience than I was optimistically hoping. For a game sixteen years and three console generations old, that’s quite the accomplishment.

Sure, the visuals and music are some of the best ever and the gameplay remains solid to this day, but I don’t think that’s all that makes this game special. There’s a very unique charm about it. It’s difficult to put into words, but it’s something that I don’t often see in games. You can tell that the designers were passionate about this project, that they treated the characters and locations as living, breathing things. It’s very easy to lose yourself in the world of Chrono Trigger – much more so than in the average gaming world of 2011, billion dollar budgets and lifelike graphics be damned. And that, folks, is special.

As an aside, playing through this game has reminded me I never want to see voice acting in Zelda (at least not in the near future). Some games are just better without it. Let me lose myself in this tale and give them my own voices.

I want to thank everyone for contributing with some really helpful gameplay tips and with some awesome stories and opinions. Thanks for keeping this topic afloat and making it so much fun. I’ll see you guys for Final Fantasy VI!



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Bumpo. Let's wrap this one up, boy-os!

Btw, thanks to TRE and redrocket for keeping this bumped. My apologies; it shouldn't have taken 2.5 months to finish this marathon.

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Glad you finally got to experience one of the most universally-beloved games of all-time, YoBlazer. Even a guy like me who hates most JRPGs is totally sucked into by its charm and craft. I've ranted about it before, but most of the thread covered that. It's a wonderful, wonderful game that I try to play at least once a year.

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Behold. Everything's at the bottom of the sea. Gone is the magical kingdom of Zeal, and all the dreams and ambitions of its people. I once lived there... But I was another person then.

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Say, can you hear that? It's the sound of the Reaper...

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On the contrary! You have come far, my friend. When Magus defeated me, I thought of all those whom I had left behind. King Guardia, Queen Leene, and of course, you... Your skill and dedication is superior! I can rest now, knowing that everyone is in good hands. Good bye, my friend!

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Chrono Trigger is an awful game

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