Board 8 > Rafael Nadal Wins Wimbledon [there's always next year, roddick] [lol not really]

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From: The Mana Sword | #446
XIII is okay for the most part these days.

Also when was the last time Federer lost a match in a major after being two sets up?

never

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Murray looking GOOD. Also whats with the mass of empty seats?!

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I am torn about the next match. I really want Djokovic to finally grab that #1 rankings, but Tsonga's a good guy and deserves another chance at a major, and he won't get many with how injury prone he is.

I think the best options is for Tsonga > Murray in the finals. Djokovic gets #1, Tsonga gets a win, Murray gets soulcrushed.

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well, centre court just had an awesome match, they need some refreshments first.

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Murray at least make the seniors tour, Murray vs Leconte epic chokefest.

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Murray already has his place in tennis history - the first guy to lose his first 3 major finals in straight sets.

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voltch posted...
you do realize everyone here treats you as a joke

No, that's probably just you. Give or take a couple of people maybe.

In fact of the two of us you are more likely to be treated as a joke, given you spent god knows how long being f***ing crazy to get attention. Just saying!

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From: XIII_rocks | #458
voltch posted...
you do realize everyone here treats you as a joke

No, that's probably just you. Give or take a couple of people maybe.

In fact of the two of us you are more likely to be treated as a joke, given you spent god knows how long being f***ing crazy to get attention. Just saying!

Right, keep telling yourself that mwc.

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From: The Mana Sword | #454
I think the best options is for Tsonga > Murray in the finals. Djokovic gets #1, Tsonga gets a win, Murray gets soulcrushed.

I will, of course, be heartbroken if Nadal loses but everything else would be pretty great.

Djokovic deserves his number one spot, if Nadal can't back up those three majors again that is.

Tsonga is indeed worthy and it'd be pretty awesome for him to get it by crushing Murray's soul to the point where he almost gets charged with attempted murder.

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*shrug*

Just stating the facts. You literally acted like a joke for a long time, so it's not so ridiculous to say that some people still see you as one >_>

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This wimbledon's had a lot of good men's matches, Hewitt/Soderling being my fav prolly, but man the women's bracket while the early rounds showcased some good matches. overall its a bad year for them.

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From: XIII_rocks | #462
*shrug*

Just stating the facts. You literally acted like a joke for a long time, so it's not so ridiculous to say that some people still see you as one >_>

Rrrright, you pride yourself on having a modicum of sports knowledge when you show 0 actual insight into anything and make pretty much a bunch of baseless accusations and then act as though they were fact. While you know me and some other users such as Kleenex, when we talk say tennis, we actually know what we're talking about.

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So many good outcomes, now that I think about it.

Murray losing his fourth Major Final in straight sets would be awesome but it comes at too high a price.

Tsonga getting revenge on Djokovic for the 2008 Australian Open.

Feliciano Lopez coming out of nowhere and winning a f***ing major in arguably one of the most competitive fields in men's tennis history.

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Anri, what would you call the most competitive era in men's tennis?

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Even IF Lopez beats Murray, theres no way he's winning the whole thing, IMO.

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Tsonga getting revenge on Djokovic for the 2008 Australian Open.

Already got that at the 2010 Australian Open.

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Enjoy the silence.

Every year you get a guy like Lopez pulling of a run outta nowhere, my favourite "recent" one of those was the Baghdatis oneat the australian open, that was just fun.

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Without a doubt Roger losing is a shock and a huge upset, but to be honest, out of all 4 quarterfinal matches, this was the upset (if an upset did take place) that was most likely going to happen, and in the end it very much did.

The irony is though is that I was commenting throughout the match about how much respect Tsonga was giving Federer, and to be honest that was hindering Tsonga to some degree at least, to the point where Roger was cruising through (There was competition from Tsonga, but Roger mentally had things under control pretty much).

I did want Roger to win big time, but not in a way that would have had Tsonga not playing as he could have due to his respect for Roger and his achievements in tennis. (From analysing tennis players' body language, your able to see how they feel overall lol, thats what I reckon at least to a degree)

And just like that, Tsonga came back big time, and clinched each set 6-4. And while Tsonga's respect was still there, even when he won the match, he was still able to beat Roger while maintaining that respect for him. Tsonga deserves full credit for the win undoubtedly, and those are just my views alone. In the end Roger was beaten fair and square, huge credit to Tsonga for sure.

To be honest also, this particular loss doesn't hurt as badly as his losses hurt before when he was aiming to break Pete's record and become what he is today - Roger's past his prime now, and I've stated countless times it will become impossibly harder for Roger to win a grand slam from now on. I'm just happy he's still able to compete at such a high level, and his quarter finals streak is still intact also :)

From: voltch | #466
Anri, what would you call the most competitive era in men's tennis?

It's impossible for me to say since I only have been watching tennis a lot since 2005 and don't really know the other eras from personal experience.

But with Nadal and Djokovic in near godlike form and Federer only slightly out of his prime, Murray being a contender until it really matters, Del Potro, and a few more very dangerous men like Tsonga and Soderling, it HAS to be up there as one of the most competitive.

You HAVE to beat Nadal or Federer to win a major.

Djokovic beat Fed to get both of his.

Del Potro beat Nadal AND Fed to get his.

Other than that it hasn't been done in like six years so...how do you feel about this era's rank in competitive fields?

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Also, RIP Fish.

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voltch posted...
Rrrright, you pride yourself on having a modicum of sports knowledge when you show 0 actual insight into anything and make pretty much a bunch of baseless accusations and then act as though they were fact. While you know me and some other users such as Kleenex, when we talk say tennis, we actually know what we're talking about.

I know that I am a relatively knowledgeable sports fan. Certainly more about football than tennis, but I think it's rather silly to up and say I have 0 insight, etc. Unfair and immature accusation quite frankly. Get some perspective.

(Nadal being on performance enhancers is not baseless, by the way. Diminish the quality of the points, say it's just worthless paper talk, whatever, but it's not baseless. Again, you're lacking perspective and a sense of scale with what you say).

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I've been watching since 1997ish full time about post 1999 i guess?

Henman in his prime was actually legit, well on grass at any rate, but the game's changed so much since then, heck the difference between the grass game and the other surfaces as a whole is starting to diminish.

also this doubles match, the quality isn't exceptional, but man its fun.

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Murray GOT THIS! I'm going to bed. I better see a win result on his part when i awaken.

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wow, the guardian will hire you on the spot for that.

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Ayvuir posted...
Murray GOT THIS! I'm going to bed. I better see a win result on his part when i awaken.

What time is it where you are?

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voltch posted...
XiC's insight on football: Portuguese people are diving scumbags.

wow, the guardian will hire you on the spot for that.

http://coxinthebox.blogspot.com/

Just saiyan.

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From: voltch | #474
I've been watching since 1997ish full time about post 1999 i guess?

Do you think now, as far as depth/competitiveness is concerned, is one of the best (if not the best) era?

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Pretty sure you're just trollling and for that I applaud you but on the offchance you're being serious, "lol".

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So they don't dope test in Tennis..?

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Princess Anri posted...
Soderling over Nadal in the fourth round of the French in 2009 is the upset of forever.

And every year that Nadal wins the French after this will just prove it more.

Yeah, agreed with this for sure, that was a huge upset for a lot of reasons overall.

But it will be tough to see whether Nadal can maintain that dominance, it'll be pretty tough from now on I think.

Tough? Undoubtedly.

But right now, Nadal is the toughest.

I am not trying to sound lame/cliche/whatever but that's part of what the French is all about.

It's a f***ing tough major to win and right now, Nadal is the man to do it.

It is going to be tough for anyone but it's the least tough for a [healthy] Nadal by a nice margin.

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neonreaper posted...
So they don't dope test in Tennis..?

Of course they do. He's either escaped being caught, or it's covered up because Nadal being exposed as a drug cheat would do massive damage to the sport as a whole. In fact, as much as I don't like Nadal, part of me doesn't really want it to happen when I think about the damage it would do to the sport. I'm in a huge minority with not liking Nadal, there's a lot of people who will lose a hero if that were to happen.

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Of course they do. He's either escaped being caught, or it's covered up because Nadal being exposed as a drug cheat would do massive damage to the sport as a whole.

So no chance that he's clean?

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neonreaper posted...
So they don't dope test in Tennis..?

I think they do mate, I remember reading an article about Nadal being tested awhile back, although it may not have been for dope.

He was clean I think.

XIII!!!!!!!!!!!

I was apparently in the middle of making the new topic when you were posting yours.

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neonreaper posted...
Of course they do. He's either escaped being caught, or it's covered up because Nadal being exposed as a drug cheat would do massive damage to the sport as a whole.

So no chance that he's clean?

What are you trying to prove here?

Of course there's a chance he's clean. By every legal measure he is clean. Doesn't mean I necessarily believe it.

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I'd love to say "trolled" Anri but yours will probably get used instead.

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defo better than the transition period where we had the hewitts/safins/ferreros filling in the top spots before Federer's dominance.

I've been speaking about this with a lot of people, some are Tennis coaches who've seen some of our british prospects and even foreign prospects train. When it comes to overall depth this era is much stronger, since anyone in the top 100 can realistically beat anyone.

Though I think at the top its not as deep as the era when america sent in a lot of great talent, i mean we've basically got a bit of a void, if America had some legit stars to send out this era would incredible. Isner and Querrey sure they're competent, but for years, it was pretty much just Blake and Roddick.

I can't talk too much about older eras, since i only saw the classics like say the 4 setter between borg and mcenroe which put the swede into retirement basically.

So yeah, for depth I'd say we are set, but right now i wouldn't say its the most competitive, since Nadal's era is in full swing and he himself is too dominant right now.

One thing I will say though, is from what I've seen in the late 90s/early 2000s compared to now is that the personalities in tennis just flat out aren't as interesting. Sure Sampras and Henman weren't exactly interesting characters, but other guys on the tour more than made up for it.

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Damn Nadal is giving up a few more break chances than I'd like but he has broken Fish five times so this is a pretty good showing.

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Princess Anri posted...
Tough? Undoubtedly.

But right now, Nadal is the toughest.

I am not trying to sound lame/cliche/whatever but that's part of what the French is all about.

It's a f***ing tough major to win and right now, Nadal is the man to do it.

It is going to be tough for anyone but it's the least tough for a [healthy] Nadal by a nice margin.

Yeah I agree, your spot on.

I just think Djokovic could be the guy to change this possibly though. Depending on how things go and how the results happen by the time the next French Open comes around next year, things could be a lot different than they are now. Then again, Nadal would know for sure the most that it's gonna be tough as anything, but he's definitely been as dominant as he has for a great reason.

I'm not trying to prove anything. I don't really care about any of these guys or the sport and I wouldn't think less of the sport if they did all dope up. I pay attention to tennis a little bit and it's a nice sport and all but I wasn't aware of a big doping scandal with Nadal.

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Thing is Djokovic's body is also under a lot of wear and tear, if he ever does break this nadal domination, his reign at the top is likely to be short.

Young prodigies have a knack of showing up and just crushing the old guard.

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From: jupizzle | #492
I just think Djokovic could be the guy to change this possibly though.

Well yeah he has a huge chance of changing things.

I was so ungodly happy when Federer beat Djokovic because he had Nadal's number in their last 4-5 matches.

Djokovic has a pretty good chance of winning any grand slam at the moment.

Nadal > Djokovic > Fed >= Del Potro > the rest.

I want a del Potro vs Nadal or Djokovic vs Nadal US Open Final this year.

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ok Anri, rank your top 3 Wimbledon finals that you have seen live on TV(or on centre court)

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2008 is and will probably always be my favorite tennis match of all time.

2009 is definitely second (sorry Roddick, learn to close).

2007 is third but it was sad :(

I mean I have only seen a few more live on tv (2010 definitely wasn't that good outside of the result, 2006 was good but not as good as the others and I barely remember 2005).

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neonreaper posted...
I'm not trying to prove anything. I don't really care about any of these guys or the sport and I wouldn't think less of the sport if they did all dope up. I pay attention to tennis a little bit and it's a nice sport and all but I wasn't aware of a big doping scandal with Nadal.

There isn't one. The doping that goes on in sport without it ever really being mentioned in the press et al is a bit of an elephant in the room, like I said.

I just think more people should look at the possibility.

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Also this.

ExThaNemesis posted...
Anri is worse about Nadal than MWC is about Kentucky holy crap

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