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RevolverSaro 06/29/11 11:34:00 PM #1: |
I am hearing that nintendo commented today that those games weren't coming out.
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KimPilgrim 06/29/11 11:35:00 PM #2: |
They pretty much told everyone to **** off.
Wouldn't be surprised if they got Amazon to remove the listing soon. -- ~LtM http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1028/ltm.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BIGPUN9999 06/29/11 11:36:00 PM #3: |
whats this about?
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IcEpIcKRSF 06/29/11 11:36:00 PM #4: |
No Xenoblade or other missing Wii games, people raged.
Makes sense Nintendo isn't going to cater to a small cult following in the US. -- It is what it is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KimPilgrim 06/29/11 11:37:00 PM #5: |
From: IcEpIcKRSF | #004 Except they announced it everywhere else. It got confirmed for AUSTRALIA during all of this. -- ~LtM http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1028/ltm.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IcEpIcKRSF 06/29/11 11:39:00 PM #6: |
KimPilgrim posted...
From: IcEpIcKRSF | #004 No Xenoblade or other missing Wii games, people raged. Makes sense Nintendo isn't going to cater to a small cult following in the US. Except they announced it everywhere else. It got confirmed for AUSTRALIA during all of this. Yes, I know. The US market isn't substantial enough for it to them I guess. Import or other means. -- It is what it is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BIGPUN9999 06/29/11 11:40:00 PM #7: |
so whats Operation Rainfall then
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RevolverSaro 06/29/11 11:41:00 PM #8: |
Massive fan campaign to get Last Story, Xenoblade and Pandora's Tower released. They managed to get Xenoblade to be the most preordered game on Amazon.
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Sorozone 06/29/11 11:42:00 PM #9: |
From: BIGPUN9999 | #007 To get NoA to localize the game in the Americas. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RevolverSaro 06/29/11 11:43:00 PM #10: |
Not even to get NoA to localize them. Just to release them
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BIGPUN9999 06/29/11 11:43:00 PM #11: |
From: RevolverSaro | #008 what did this fan campaign consist of exactly -- http://6.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kp8al2dw5G1qzhqy3o1_400.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingBartz 06/29/11 11:45:00 PM #12: |
letter writing, pre-orders, lots of rallying
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BIGPUN9999 06/29/11 11:46:00 PM #13: |
From: KingBartz | #012 has this actually worked before? -- http://11.media.tumblr.com/zbT6A1rVVqxv4nguoxkiISPZo1_500.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ayuyu 06/29/11 11:47:00 PM #14: |
It worked with Tales of Graces no?
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YetAnothrShadow 06/29/11 11:48:00 PM #15: |
Is there any reason why these games wont be released in states?
I mean the pre orders on Amazon alone would be enough constitute it no? -- Brawl is like ZSS' breasts. Well rounded for casual players. http://i53.tinypic.com/28sxzzr.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RevolverSaro 06/29/11 11:48:00 PM #16: |
it's worked a few times. I thought for sure it was going to work, at least for Xenoblade, since the preorder numbers were ridiculous.
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BIGPUN9999 06/29/11 11:50:00 PM #17: |
errr, if I came off cynical, I didn't mean to, I was legitimately curious
From: YetAnothrShadow | #015 From: RevolverSaro | #016 what were they? -- http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2820/dogpunpngyr.png http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7154/dogpun2pngqa.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sorozone 06/29/11 11:51:00 PM #18: |
I'm pretty sure it was just to get them localized in the Americas, everyone knew already that it was going to EU, and well I guess Australia was somewhat surprising, but at the same time not really.
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KingBartz 06/29/11 11:52:00 PM #19: |
It's just another instance of Nintendo being awful again. I'm certainly done supporting their s***ty consoles even though I do enjoy some of their first party games. For the last 10 years Nintendo has repeatedly told the fans to go **** off and die and people still support them.
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RevolverSaro 06/29/11 11:52:00 PM #20: |
Not sure what the numbers were, but it was enough to push Xenoblade to #1 on Amazon.
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KimPilgrim 06/29/11 11:53:00 PM #21: |
From: YetAnothrShadow | #015 The reason they won't release is because Nintendo does not care about America. I realize it's a silly thing to say, but when you've got a game in demand that's already been translated and voiced in english, and then announce that game for AUSTRALIA right in the middle of a massive campaign to get it released in the US, and then the next day say you have no intention or porting it stateside after claiming you have "big news" upcoming beforehand, YOU DO NOT CARE ABOUT AMERICA. -- ~LtM http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1028/ltm.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YetAnothrShadow 06/29/11 11:54:00 PM #22: |
Wow, this has opened my eyes a little bit about NoA.
Reggie you letting us down. -- Brawl is like ZSS' breasts. Well rounded for casual players. http://i53.tinypic.com/28sxzzr.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Emporer_Kazbar 06/29/11 11:55:00 PM #23: |
Oh well, sucks for the people who tried.
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The Real Truth 06/29/11 11:57:00 PM #24: |
Just another reason for me not to care about Nintendo anymore. Xenoblade actually looks really good.
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Ayuyu 06/29/11 11:58:00 PM #25: |
Does Nintendo of Japan has anything to say about the decisions of NoA? Just wondering.
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GuessMyUserName 06/29/11 11:59:00 PM #26: |
technically I wouldn't say Operation Rainfall was a failure because Operation Rainfall is still going on. They won't stop the campaign just because Nintendo says there's no plans yet.
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KimPilgrim 06/30/11 12:01:00 AM #28: |
From: Ayuyu | #025 Not that I've heard, but Monolith Soft was on Twitter really hoping they would announce it for U.S. release -- ~LtM http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1028/ltm.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 06/30/11 12:02:00 AM #29: |
I'm always confused when a company fails to deliver a product its consumers have expressed a desire to buy. Like, there's no reason for capitalism to fail like that.
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Weakupedia 06/30/11 12:02:00 AM #30: |
wow really
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ChichiriMuyo 06/30/11 12:03:00 AM #31: |
Actually, all branches of Nintendo answer to NoJ. If NoJ says jump, they jump. NoJ is probably just not saying anything at all on this one.
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Ayuyu 06/30/11 12:04:00 AM #32: |
NoJ is stupid then, can't they see that NoA is too stupid to think by itself?
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IcEpIcKRSF 06/30/11 12:12:00 AM #33: |
Because 30,000 sold copies MAYBE of Xenoblade/etc matters to NOA. If that.
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ShadowHalo17 06/30/11 12:13:00 AM #34: |
I wish there were enough Kingdom Hearts fans to rally and get Square to release the Final Mix versions of KH2 and Birth by Sleep in the US.
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GuessMyUserName 06/30/11 12:14:00 AM #35: |
Previously, Nintendo's facebook was getting 2,000 comments a day about this. Tonight though, Nintendo's been getting 2,000 comments an hour. Fans are still raging hard
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YetAnothrShadow 06/30/11 12:15:00 AM #36: |
There's no shortages of Kh fans.
Most of them just don't care about remixes or rereleases. Nearly everyone who likes the Kh series I know of cares more about Kh3 not being released, or even being made, yet. -- Brawl is like ZSS' breasts. Well rounded for casual players. http://i53.tinypic.com/28sxzzr.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KimPilgrim 06/30/11 12:15:00 AM #37: |
From: IcEpIcKRSF | #033 If you want to sit there and honestly say that Xenoblade is gonna sell less than half as many copies ****ing Opoona, be my guest. -- ~LtM http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1028/ltm.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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redrocket 06/30/11 12:17:00 AM #38: |
IcEpIcKRSF posted...
Because 30,000 sold copies MAYBE of Xenoblade/etc matters to NOA. If that. If 30,000 people rage quit Nintendo as a company over their overall ****y attitude, that might matter to them. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 06/30/11 12:19:00 AM #39: |
bahahahah, 30k, "if that"
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IcEpIcKRSF 06/30/11 12:19:00 AM #40: |
KimPilgrim posted...
From: IcEpIcKRSF | #033 Because 30,000 sold copies MAYBE of Xenoblade/etc matters to NOA. If that. If you want to sit there and honestly say that Xenoblade is gonna sell less than half as many copies ****ing Opoona, be my guest. It's NoA! Why are people surprised by any of this? They are getting ready to focus all their attention on the Wii U now. But with this being NoA they'll probably change their minds before the end of this year and botch the release somehow. -- It is what it is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IcEpIcKRSF 06/30/11 12:20:00 AM #41: |
ShadowHalo17 posted...
I wish there were enough Kingdom Hearts fans to rally and get Square to release the Final Mix versions of KH2 and Birth by Sleep in the US. This is what I see happening. KH3 is going to come with a pre-order bonus of those. For a crazy price. And we will pay, just like Re: Chain of Memories. -- It is what it is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KimPilgrim 06/30/11 12:23:00 AM #42: |
People Opoona sold 65,000 ****ing copies.
It's literally impossible for Xenoblade not to break 100k. -- ~LtM http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1028/ltm.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChichiriMuyo 06/30/11 12:23:00 AM #43: |
@Ayuyu
With there being a campaign behind this, there is going to be an expectation that Xenoblade (at least) will have much higher pre-order to total sales ratio than normal. If they think one in four eventual sales will come from the pre-order campaign launched by operation rainfall and there are only 10-15k pre-orders, then the numbers just don't support a localization. Even 25k might not justify the effort at that level of expectation. If NoA doesn't think they can make money on the game, NoJ has no incentive to push them. It's still a mistake for the perception they are creating, the damage it is doing to a segment of their fanbase, but it's one based in fiscally conservative planning. Basically they are saying that the few people pushing for this are a loud but ultimately small part of their fanbase whose opinion could undermine their overall goals. If operation rainfall pushed Xenoblade/Monado preorders to the point that it was a safe bet financially, they'd be all over that. That's clearly not the case. -- "Principally I hate and detest the animal called man, although I heartily love John, Peter, Thomas and so forth" - Jonathan Swift BT with the victory! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YetAnothrShadow 06/30/11 12:24:00 AM #44: |
I'm not too savvy when it comes to financing and capitalism but can't they just have a limited release? It's not like they have to break the bank on this.
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ChichiriMuyo 06/30/11 12:25:00 AM #45: |
No, it's not literally impossible for that to happen. Failing to hit 100k is a realistic probability, even if it's a highly unlikely one. If the numbers said they'd do better than that and that it'd be enough to make a profit I doubt they'd hesitate to localize the game.
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KamikazePotato 06/30/11 12:28:00 AM #46: |
The game has already been localized. It's being released in Europe and Australia.
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KimPilgrim 06/30/11 12:29:00 AM #47: |
You can claim what you want but there is zero doubt in my mind that any RPG released for the Wii would at minimum double Opoona.
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IcEpIcKRSF 06/30/11 12:29:00 AM #48: |
I'm thinking NoA feels those aren't realistic figures at all for some reason.
And I haven't been following this too closely except offhand comments from friends and the occasional ragerant on reddit, so 30k whatever, oh well. Nintendo's made it clear they are going after the hardcore market with Wii U in America, they are probably not caring at this point what Xenoblade would sell. I'm going to play it either way, so it doesn't really matter. Import can get my money and show of support. -- It is what it is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChichiriMuyo 06/30/11 12:31:00 AM #49: |
Brittish localization is not the same as NA localization regardless of it being in English. It's good enough for me and many others, but it will have the effect of "losing" buyers if the British version is released in the US. Blame that on the American consumer.
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SubDeity 06/30/11 12:32:00 AM #50: |
It just seems that Xenoblade would benefit from Tales of Symphonia Syndrome, a decent RPG taking off simply because the system it's on has no other RPG's.
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KamikazePotato 06/30/11 12:33:00 AM #51: |
Do you seriously think that anyone in America is going to care if a game was localized in Britain. That's very silly.
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