Board 8 > I don't know what everyone was on about but Cars 2 was great.

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Was it one of Pixar's best works? No, not by a mile, but they don't make bad movies anyway. Cars 2 was a lot of fun, f*** the critics.

Pitch me on it.

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Was it just a stupid fun kind of movie?

It stikes me as standard fun pixar fair, but minus the artsy parts. Critics don't like it when big name people do that.

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my little cousin got scared by it. This means I wont have to watch it 100 times a week when it comes out on DVD.

This makes it better than Cars by default.

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OctilIery posted...
Was it just a stupid fun kind of movie?

It stikes me as standard fun pixar fair, but minus the artsy parts. Critics don't like it when big name people do that.


This. It seemed like every single critic that bashed it was doing so because it wasn't "artsy" or deep like some of Pixar's other movies.

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It's standard fun Pixar fare minus the artsy parts, yeah. I don't really have a problem with that. It was a fun little spy movie set in the Cars universe, likeable characters, surprisingly good action, plot wasn't much to talk about but I was entertained, so, yeah. Dunno why people are giving it a hard time.

plot wasn't much to talk about but I was entertained, so, yeah. Dunno why people are giving it a hard time.

I think you just answered your own question.

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No, I don't think I did. Not every Pixar movie has to be an instant classic of storytelling.

Just having fun watching a movie? How dare you

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Paratroopa1 posted...
No, I don't think I did. Not every Pixar movie has to be an instant classic of storytelling.


The fact that they have at all has made people expect that from every single movie they do, now. Pixar's apparently no longer allowed to just make a fun movie without some deeper meaning.

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They're incorrect.

From: Mr Lasastryke | #011
Some people think "a plot that's something to write home about" is essential in movies, yes.

I hope you're not implying that you're one of those people.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...
Some people think "a plot that's something to write home about" is essential in movies, yes.


Does that mean you hate Rocky and Rambo movies.

Because we'll have to become enemies.

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I hope you're not implying that you're one of those people.

"A silly little thing like "a good plot," phaw. Throw a bunch of special effects at me and I'm satisfied!"

Yes, I am one of those people.

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From: StealThisSheen | #012
Paratroopa1 posted...
No, I don't think I did. Not every Pixar movie has to be an instant classic of storytelling.


The fact that they have at all has made people expect that from every single movie they do, now. Pixar's apparently no longer allowed to just make a fun movie without some deeper meaning.

The fact that Pixar has been able to consistently make good movies that are both fun AND have deeper meanings is why people are disappointed, and it's understandable.

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To clarify, I don't mean that the plot of Cars 2 is crap. It's anything but. It's pretty decent, I found it to be fairly standard yet entertaining, the pacing isn't always perfect but I wasn't bored by it either and it ends with a good climax. It's solid, it's just not an incredible masterpiece.

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Holy f***, I'm glad Pixar made a movie without a deeper meaning for once. I like bawling my eyes out to a kid's movie as much as anyone, and that's not sarcasm, but sometimes I like a Pixar movie that doesn't do that too, you know?

Mr Lasastryke posted...
"A silly little thing like "a good plot," phaw. Throw a bunch of special effects at me and I'm satisfied!"

Yes, I am one of those people.


You realize that a plot can be good or satisfying without being "something to write home about," right.

Fast Five entertained me, for instance. Its plot was by no means something to talk about, but it was serviceable for what the movie was. So I'd call it a "good" plot, because it didn't hurt the movie in any way.

Would you say that's not good enough because it didn't provoke "OH MY GOD" response or something.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...
I hope you're not implying that you're one of those people.

"A silly little thing like "a good plot," phaw. Throw a bunch of special effects at me and I'm satisfied!"

Yes, I am one of those people.

I don't know crap about Cars, or Pixar, but that statement makes me think that you're the type of person who discusses movies like Requiem For A Dream at length and actually enjoys it.

Have people really been giving it bad reviews?

I thought the general critical consensus was "Not up to Pixar's standards. Still a quality kids movie. Meh. **1/2" or something

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whoa. mind if blown.

Also I seriously suffered through Cars more than any movie ever. My little cousin would watch it, then watch it again, then again, then probably again. It never ended.

And then of course hes had people spend thousands of dollars on Cars merchandise for him.

Hes pretty much a shining example of why the damn movie got a sequel.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
The fact that Pixar has been able to consistently make good movies that are both fun AND have deeper meanings is why people are disappointed, and it's understandable.


But that wasn't in the original Cars much, either, so why would people expect more.

And geez, like Para said, not every single movie has to make you cry or feel inspired. They wanted to make a fun, silly movie for families. I don't see how that warrants outrage.

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Plots don't have to be "OH MY GOD," but they have to be good. "The plot wasn't much to talk about" implies to me that it wasn't good. Apparently my interpretation of that sentence isn't the same as most people's, though!

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For what it's worth, I preferred Cars 2 to Cars, by a fairly wide margin actually. I wasn't really a huge fan of the first Cars either, though I didn't hate it either.

As we speak, Cars 2 is a 35% on Rotten Tomatoes, so it's not being reviewed well at all. Ebert loved it though.

I don't know crap about Cars, or Pixar, but that statement makes me think that you're the type of person who discusses movies like Requiem For A Dream at length and actually enjoys it.

Haven't seen it, but I'm the kind of person who discusses Mulholland Drive at length and actually enjoys it.

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Octillery posted...
Other Octillery alert.

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You weren't using :P Obviously I've been using it more than you >.>;

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JaKyL25 posted...
Have people really been giving it bad reviews?

I thought the general critical consensus was "Not up to Pixar's standards. Still a quality kids movie. Meh. **1/2" or something


Critics f***ing hated Cars 2. It's doing worse than Transformers 3 on RT, for instance.

Some, like Ebert, were like "It's a fun f***ing movie. Shut up and take it for what it is."

The majority are basically whining that it isn't Toy Story 3-2.

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From: Mr Lasastryke | #026
"The plot wasn't much to talk about" implies to me that it wasn't good.

It implies to me that you shouldn't go to see the movie solely for the plot (not a bad thing), but there are a lot of other good things about it and the story gets the job done.

But I hope nobody was planning to go see Cars 2 for the plot in the first place.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...
I don't know crap about Cars, or Pixar, but that statement makes me think that you're the type of person who discusses movies like Requiem For A Dream at length and actually enjoys it.

Haven't seen it, but I'm the kind of person who discusses Mulholland Drive at length and actually enjoys it.

Well, I actually know someone who does that, and they're pretty cool so...

now I'm confused.

That is quite true!

I say let's meet in private and trip people out with some 4-at-once posts :P

LeonhartFour | Posted 7/4/2011 5:14:39 PM | message detail | quote
It implies to me that you shouldn't go to see the movie solely for the plot (not a bad thing), but there are a lot of other good things about it and the story gets the job done.

But I hope nobody was planning to go see Cars 2 for the plot in the first place.

Yeah, this is exactly what I meant.

From: StealThisSheen | #028
Some, like Ebert, were like "It's a fun f***ing movie. Shut up and take it for what it is."

Hey, Eberts opinion doesn't count. Pretty sure he said Toy Story 3 was nothing special. Which is untrue no matter how you're looking at it.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Hey, Eberts opinion doesn't count. Pretty sure he said Toy Story 3 was nothing special. Which is untrue no matter how you're looking at it.


He gave it three stars.

But, you know, since he didn't give it a perfect score, people assumed. >_>

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Er, no, I'm saying in the actual body of the review he said that it was a standard's children's film and was good at that, but wasn't anything special. Unless I'm remembering that wrong.

Screw what ratings he gave the movie.

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This is a jolly, slapstick comedy, lacking the almost eerie humanity that infused the earlier “Toy Story” sagas, and happier with action and jokes than with characters and emotions. But hey, what can you expect from a movie named "Toy Story 3," especially with the humans mostly offstage? I expect its target audience will love it, and at the box office, it may take right up where "How to Train Your Dragon" left off. Just don't get me started about the 3-D.

Here.

Right here.

What the hell am I reading?

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3/4 stars is a pretty adequate rating for a "nothing special" movie.

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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
This is a jolly, slapstick comedy, lacking the almost eerie humanity that infused the earlier “Toy Story” sagas, and happier with action and jokes than with characters and emotions. But hey, what can you expect from a movie named "Toy Story 3," especially with the humans mostly offstage? I expect its target audience will love it, and at the box office, it may take right up where "How to Train Your Dragon" left off. Just don't get me started about the 3-D.

Here.

Right here.

What the hell am I reading?



...A perfectly fair review summary?

It IS very light on characterization, because its target audience is people that have seen Toy Story 1 and Toy Story 2. If you're coming in blind, you are going to have almost zero emotional attachment to the characters. Hell, he flat out says that he expects the target audience to love it. What more do you want?

"THIS IS THE BEST MOVIE EVER IT MADE ME ORGASM."

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But hey, what can you expect from a movie named "Toy Story 3," especially with the humans mostly offstage?

Yeah, this is typical Ebert patronizing BS.

"What can you expect from a movie named Toy Story 3... snicker."

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From: Mr Lasastryke | #041
3/4 stars is a pretty adequate rating for a "nothing special" movie.

...What do you give to a movie that's "really good but not quite GREAT" then?

I guess you can go 3.5/4.

But 3/4 would imply "Good movie, worth seeing" to me.

2/4 would imply "Nothing special, don't feel like you're missing anything if you don't watch it" to me.

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..yeah uh, if you weren't a fan of the first two Toy Stories, TS3 really wasn't anything special. enjoyable film but nothing to write home about.

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"Nothing special" doesn't necessarily mean "mediocre." It can refer to both decent and mediocre movies.

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Why is there so much Pixar discussion on this board?

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From: Mr Lasastryke | #046
"Nothing special" doesn't necessarily mean "mediocre." It can refer to both decent and mediocre movies.

Well, I would give 2/4 to a "decent" movie.

From: LinkMarioSamus | #047
Why is there so much Pixar discussion on this board?

LOL LMS talking about there being a lot of discussion on a particular topic on Board 8

there's a new irony

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Well, I would give 2/4 to a "decent" movie.

That doesn't make sense. 2/4 is mediocre.

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Unless your definition of "decent" is "really good but not quite great," then giving a "decent" movie 3/4 doesn't make sense to me.

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