Board 8 > Hmm. I think I just discovered a new state of consciousness. [SP/Lucid Dreams]

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thundersheep
07/11/11 9:43:00 PM
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I apologize right now, this may end up being a long read. I just want to get everything in text before I forget anything.

I doubt any of you will remember this, but a long time ago I posted about having some weird type of DMT "flashbacks" where I could sometimes feel effects that felt like the onset of a DMT trip whenever I was in sleep paralysis. Now for most people sleep paralysis is such a terrifying experience that they just want to escape it as soon as they can. But for someone like me who dreams lucidly every night and has experienced sleep paralysis countless times (I can trigger it ANY time I sleep on my back) I now feel the urge to "explore" what is possible in that state.

So after watching "The Transcendent Man" on Netflix I fell asleep laying down, on my back, in bed. I guess sleep paralysis set in while I was supposed to be waking up. Realizing what was going on I simply laid there not even attempting to get myself up until I felt the incredibly weird sensation I can only compare to the onset of a breakthrough trip on DMT. It feels as if your entire body is vibrating at a frequency that shouldn't even be possible before before shot out of a cannon at about a million miles an hour. During the paralysis I could literally feel my teeth chattering (although I'm sure nothing was happening in real life) and I thought I might wake up with a chipped tooth.. but I just stuck through it instead of trying to wake up as I usually do (it's pretty ****ing scary tbh) and waited for the "breakthrough". Well the breakthrough happens and I'm still paralyzed. I start seeing some crazy imagery that I can't really describe except for a few really messed up visions of my own face, contorted in a way that seems designed simply to freak me out.

Following these images I simply feel awake. I know that I'm in my bed in my room and I am very aware of everything that just took place, but I decide to keep my eyes closed. Suddenly (I have no concept of time from here on) I begin to dream. I'm still technically awake and I know this because there is a thunderstorm outside and I left my window open... I can still hear the wind blowing through my window.. but my eyes are closed and I'm dreaming. What made the dream different is that I had more control over the aspects of it than any other time I've experienced, and the entire thing was incredibly vivid. Not just the look, but I could hear music, feel and taste just as if I had been awake. Furthermore I had the power to move my own perspective from first-person (like real life) to a third-person top-down view of the entire area. It was incredible.

Another thing that made this different from regular lucid dreaming is that details often get fuzzy for me when I think too much about how I'm controlling everything, or whenever I have sex... neither was the case here. I could tell I was "awake" the entire time and the dream pretty much ran it's course before I opened my eyes and lost it.

Not sure if anyone finds this even remotely interesting, but I needed it in written form so I thought I'd post it here before saving the document somewhere. I quite literally just dreamt while I was awake. Now I just wish I had a video camera on me or something so I could tell if I was in REM for any part of that...

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Psycho_Kenshin
07/11/11 10:24:00 PM
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Interestin'. I don't like the feeling of sleep paralysis, but I do dig lucid dreaming.

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Jeff Zero
07/11/11 10:26:00 PM
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I've had dreams before where I knew I was "awake" the entire time too. Interesting stuff.

Good read though. Thanks for sharing.

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Lockes Ragnarok
07/11/11 10:27:00 PM
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I think I've had a similar experience before. Sleep paralysis is pretty common for me too, and it used to freak me out (sometimes it still does), but I usually just go with it. Most people I've talked to never get the vibrating sensation you're getting, but I get that as well, which honestly, I'm glad to hear of someone else that gets it. Sometimes it feels like my brain is vibrating inside my skull pretty violently. I swear sometimes I get a headache from it, but it's probably just in my mind.

But yeah, I once snapped out of the sleep paralysis and went straight into a dream that was extremely vivid. I was smashing s*** with a baseball bat in my living room. I remember seeing an old TV and thinking "I wish I had a baseball bat so I could smash that", and one just appeared next to me. It was pretty wicked, man. It's like I was in control of the entire dream. I very rarely dream, but when I do it's never like this. Just that one time felt so real.

Also should note that the vibrating gets more intense the harder I try to wake up. That's why I usually just go with it. I hate the vibrating thing.
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Princess Anri
07/11/11 10:29:00 PM
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I have never had sleep paralysis.

I remember the first time someone described it to me I thought they were making it up.

I do sleepwalk a lot though and I cry (like seriously shed tears) about statistical impossibilities every single time.

Like when I sleepwalk I just walk around crying saying that I can't possibly flip a coin and get heads 1 million times in a row.

And the thought of having to try (and succeed) is too much to bear.

Luckily only my mom, sister, brother, and best friend have seen me in this state.

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Chrono1219
07/11/11 10:30:00 PM
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It's possible to alter your sleep patterns to induced lucid dreaming. However, I've heard some people who have done it too much loose track of reality

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Ayuyu
07/11/11 10:32:00 PM
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Princess Anri posted...
I have never had sleep paralysis.

I remember the first time someone described it to me I thought they were making it up.

I do sleepwalk a lot though and I cry (like seriously shed tears) about statistical impossibilities every single time.

Like when I sleepwalk I just walk around crying saying that I can't possibly flip a coin and get heads 1 million times in a row.

And the thought of having to try (and succeed) is too much to bear.

Luckily only my mom, sister, brother, and best friend have seen me in this state.


That sounds seriously creepy as ****.

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Princess Anri
07/11/11 10:33:00 PM
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When I say a lot I mean more like once a year.

But seriously even that is way too much.

And I wouldn't call it creepy (I guess I could see how you might) but it certainly is lame.

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Emporer_Kazbar
07/11/11 10:34:00 PM
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I've never had sleep paralysis. Then again, I don't sleep much at all, so maybe that has something to do with it.

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red13n
07/11/11 10:38:00 PM
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my dreams are usually always way more vivid if I hop back to sleep after waking up.

I'd never willingly put myself up to sleep paralysis though. Seriously the scariest thing I've experienced.

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thundersheep
07/11/11 10:43:00 PM
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From: Lockes Ragnarok | #002
I think I've had a similar experience before. Sleep paralysis is pretty common for me too, and it used to freak me out (sometimes it still does), but I usually just go with it. Most people I've talked to never get the vibrating sensation you're getting, but I get that as well, which honestly, I'm glad to hear of someone else that gets it. Sometimes it feels like my brain is vibrating inside my skull pretty violently. I swear sometimes I get a headache from it, but it's probably just in my mind.

But yeah, I once snapped out of the sleep paralysis and went straight into a dream that was extremely vivid. I was smashing s*** with a baseball bat in my living room. I remember seeing an old TV and thinking "I wish I had a baseball bat so I could smash that", and one just appeared next to me. It was pretty wicked, man. It's like I was in control of the entire dream. I very rarely dream, but when I do it's never like this. Just that one time felt so real.

Also should note that the vibrating gets more intense the harder I try to wake up. That's why I usually just go with it. I hate the vibrating thing.


Sweet. I'm also glad to hear I'm not the only one who this happens to. It's weird because the vibrating thing never happened to me before trying DMT (I've only done it once) but now it happens pretty much every time. Before I used to just try to pry my eyes open with my fingers and they would seem to be impossibly stuck together whenever I went through sleep paralysis... which really sucked. I mean the vibrating sucks too because the first few times I honestly thought I was going to die or something, but I think I can handle it now. Especially after today, seeing what can happen if I just stick through it.

Our dream experiences seem pretty similar though. I mean my lucid dreams are never quite like the one I just had. It was pretty much just like Inception.

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Pokewars
07/11/11 10:47:00 PM
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Sleep paralysis is trippy as hell. I had no idea what the f*** I was experiencing the first time. Shadowy figures and s***.

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Chuckles
07/11/11 11:17:00 PM
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I've always had sleep related weirdness going on, from constant sleepwalking and sleeptalking to sleep paralysis. It all got a lot worse after I kind of went crazy a few years back, but nowadays I'm much better. Only thing now is whenever I sleep, right as I wake up? That time just doesn't exist for me. I never remember much of it XD. Apparently a few months ago when I woke up, I asked my girlfriend, "How would it feel if your entire body was made of forks? HUH?!" and went back to sleep.

I also do remember once I woke up to a phone call, and I swear the name on the phone was a mile long... like it said Kazakhstan or something random. Then when I checked it later, it just said "Dad"... And I don't remember talking to my dad XD.
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The Real Truth
07/12/11 12:10:00 AM
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I've experienced sleep paralysis on something like 15-20 different occasions that I can recall. I just remember "feeling" some incredible pain as I attempted to my arm. It was absolutely terrifying. After what felt like forever (I assume it was 5-10 seconds), I think the "pain" from attempting to move my arm and open my eyes woke me up. The moment I remember most was when I stayed at my friends house. I could hear him on his computer, and I was trying to speak, move, or something, and I wasn't able to.

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The Real Truth
07/12/11 12:10:00 AM
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Actually I think the scariest feeling was when my arm was on the edge of the bed and it felt like it was falling but I couldn't do anything about it.

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Ayuyu
07/12/11 12:14:00 AM
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Princess Anri posted...
When I say a lot I mean more like once a year.

But seriously even that is way too much.

And I wouldn't call it creepy (I guess I could see how you might) but it certainly is lame.


I'm just easily creeped out by everything that's related to insanity.

I mean since you're doing it in your sleep it's not really insanity but you know, it's something someone insane would do awake..

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Princess Anri
07/12/11 12:17:00 AM
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It's such a terrible and overwhelming feeling.

Just being like that in my sleep for 15-20 minutes is absolutely exhausting.

If that's what being insane is like, I wouldn't last very long.

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