Board 8 > Reminder: Valve is pretty much the most important game developer around.

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Silvercross 07/21/11 4:20:00 PM #51:	*DCousGerbil posted...* Sure if you like FPS, but if you don't then they really aren't a blip on the radar at all. You know, except for Steam. -- There was a signature here. It's gone now. Your face is bees. <cite>Silvercross posted [p:118217] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> DCousGerbil posted...Sure if you like FPS, but if you don't then they really aren't a blip on the radar at all.You know, except for Steam. -- There was a signature here. It's gone now.Your face is bees. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/21/11 4:20:00 PM #52:	*DCousGerbil posted...* Sure if you like FPS, but if you don't then they really aren't a blip on the radar at all. Steam isn't a blip on the radar? -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! <cite>OctilIery posted [p:118218] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> DCousGerbil posted...Sure if you like FPS, but if you don't then they really aren't a blip on the radar at all.Steam isn't a blip on the radar? -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 07/21/11 4:21:00 PM #53:	*DCousGerbil posted...* Sure if you like FPS, but if you don't then they really aren't a blip on the radar at all. STEAM!?!?!?!?!!? -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:118219] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> DCousGerbil posted...Sure if you like FPS, but if you don't then they really aren't a blip on the radar at all.STEAM!?!?!?!?!!? -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 07/21/11 4:22:00 PM #54:	Nintendo has been on top for sales, but they really haven't done much to improve the industry like Valve has. the place this is most evident: third party sales on the wii. nintendo has created a monstrous casual fanbase for itself that will buy any crappy mario sports title in the millions without thinking about it, but none of these new customers buy other companies games at all. and if you credit nintendo for causing the kinect and move to happen, then you're really just admitting they've done more harm than good. <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:118220] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> Nintendo has been on top for sales, but they really haven't done much to improve the industry like Valve has.the place this is most evident: third party sales on the wii. nintendo has created a monstrous casual fanbase for itself that will buy any crappy mario sports title in the millions without thinking about it, but none of these new customers buy other companies games at all. and if you credit nintendo for causing the kinect and move to happen, then you're really just admitting they've done more harm than good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Silvercross 07/21/11 4:23:00 PM #55:	*DCousGerbil posted...* Sure if you like FPS, but if you don't then they really aren't a blip on the radar at all. Uh, don't forget about Steam! -- I am a different person. <cite>Silvercross posted [p:118221] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> DCousGerbil posted...Sure if you like FPS, but if you don't then they really aren't a blip on the radar at all.Uh, don't forget about Steam! -- I am a different person. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 07/21/11 4:24:00 PM #56:	Well, it's more than a matter of "sold the most." Activision sells a lot of games each year, but I wouldn't call them the most important company in the industry. There's more to it than just selling a lot of copies of games. Nintendo has innovated, expanded, and influenced games in the past few years maybe more than they ever have in their history. When I think of 'most important,' there's a bunch of criteria that needs to met, and Nintendo qualifies for most of it. Valve does, too, and they're up there, but can't say I agree that they're the most important. -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. <cite>ZFS posted [p:118222] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> Well, it's more than a matter of "sold the most." Activision sells a lot of games each year, but I wouldn't call them the most important company in the industry. There's more to it than just selling a lot of copies of games. Nintendo has innovated, expanded, and influenced games in the past few years maybe more than they ever have in their history. When I think of 'most important,' there's a bunch of criteria that needs to met, and Nintendo qualifies for most of it. Valve does, too, and they're up there, but can't say I agree that they're the most important. -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VintageGin 07/21/11 4:24:00 PM #57:	*DCousGerbil posted...* Sure if you like FPS, but if you don't then they really aren't a blip on the radar at all. Hey, wait a minute. Isn't this guy forgetting about Steam? -- Ginhyun 'Cause tramps like us, baby we were born to run <cite>VintageGin posted [p:118223] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> DCousGerbil posted...Sure if you like FPS, but if you don't then they really aren't a blip on the radar at all.Hey, wait a minute. Isn't this guy forgetting about Steam? -- Ginhyun'Cause tramps like us, baby we were born to run </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/21/11 4:25:00 PM #58:	Nintendo has innovated, expanded, and influenced games in the past few years maybe more than they ever have in their history. They haven't really done any of this over the past few years tbqh. -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! <cite>OctilIery posted [p:118224] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> Nintendo has innovated, expanded, and influenced games in the past few years maybe more than they ever have in their history.They haven't really done any of this over the past few years tbqh. -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 07/21/11 4:25:00 PM #59:	what is a steam -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. <cite>ZFS posted [p:118225] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> what is a steam -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 07/21/11 4:25:00 PM #60:	nintendo isn't going to have a system with proper online until Q4 2012, so innovative being 6 years behind the times! <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:118226] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> nintendo isn't going to have a system with proper online until Q4 2012, so innovative being 6 years behind the times! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XxSoulxX 07/21/11 4:25:00 PM #61:	The sales for the Wii is Nintendo's only achievement this gen. Motion controls are crap, their first party software is mediocre (good Mario/Zelda, bad everything else), non-existent third party software, 3DS is a major flop, and making non-games popular is not something to be proud of. The Wii was a massive fad and it's already completely dead. -- Good Times, Great Memories <cite>XxSoulxX posted [p:118227] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> The sales for the Wii is Nintendo's only achievement this gen. Motion controls are crap, their first party software is mediocre (good Mario/Zelda, bad everything else), non-existent third party software, 3DS is a major flop, and making non-games popular is not something to be proud of. The Wii was a massive fad and it's already completely dead. -- Good Times,Great Memories </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DCousGerbil 07/21/11 4:26:00 PM #62:	I guess I forgot about steam. TBQH I didn't even know Valve made Steam. Regardless I literally downloaded it once to download Portal when it was free and have done nothing else with it, so... yeah barely a blip on the radar. -- http://i.imgur.com/WRgfu.gif <cite>DCousGerbil posted [p:118228] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> I guess I forgot about steam. TBQH I didn't even know Valve made Steam. Regardless I literally downloaded it once to download Portal when it was free and have done nothing else with it, so... yeah barely a blip on the radar. -- http://i.imgur.com/WRgfu.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kotetsu534 07/21/11 4:28:00 PM #63:	If Activision (and Blizzard) didn't exist, FPSs and MMORPGs would be much less played than they are. That's quite a big consequence, on top of massive sales (only rivalled by Nintendo). -- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) <cite>Kotetsu534 posted [p:118229] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> If Activision (and Blizzard) didn't exist, FPSs and MMORPGs would be much less played than they are. That's quite a big consequence, on top of massive sales (only rivalled by Nintendo). -- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ.(Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/21/11 4:28:00 PM #64:	*DCousGerbil posted...* I guess I forgot about steam. TBQH I didn't even know Valve made Steam. Regardless I literally downloaded it once to download Portal when it was free and have done nothing else with it, so... yeah barely a blip on the radar. That's a problem with you then, and doesn't have anything to do with the FACT that Steam pretty much saved PC gaming and has had a massive impact on gaming in general. -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! <cite>OctilIery posted [p:118230] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> DCousGerbil posted...I guess I forgot about steam. TBQH I didn't even know Valve made Steam. Regardless I literally downloaded it once to download Portal when it was free and have done nothing else with it, so... yeah barely a blip on the radar.That's a problem with you then, and doesn't have anything to do with the FACT that Steam pretty much saved PC gaming and has had a massive impact on gaming in general. -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Silvercross 07/21/11 4:29:00 PM #65:	*DCousGerbil posted...* I guess I forgot about steam. TBQH I didn't even know Valve made Steam. Regardless I literally downloaded it once to download Portal when it was free and have done nothing else with it, so... yeah barely a blip on the radar. Except for the fact that it's the single largest game distribution service out there right now. Just because you don't use tampons, doesn't mean they don't sell. -- There was a signature here. It's gone now. Your face is bees. <cite>Silvercross posted [p:118231] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> DCousGerbil posted...I guess I forgot about steam. TBQH I didn't even know Valve made Steam. Regardless I literally downloaded it once to download Portal when it was free and have done nothing else with it, so... yeah barely a blip on the radar.Except for the fact that it's the single largest game distribution service out there right now. Just because you don't use tampons, doesn't mean they don't sell. -- There was a signature here. It's gone now.Your face is bees. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DCousGerbil 07/21/11 4:29:00 PM #66:	It's not my fault they don't appeal to me. And it's... like your opinion man. -- http://i.imgur.com/WRgfu.gif <cite>DCousGerbil posted [p:118232] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> It's not my fault they don't appeal to me. And it's... like your opinion man. -- http://i.imgur.com/WRgfu.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 07/21/11 4:29:00 PM #67:	If Activision (and Blizzard) didn't exist, FPSs and MMORPGs would be much less played than they are. That's quite a big consequence the industry would be better off without MMO's. MMO players tend to get addicted to that one game and only play that one game, this doesn't promote buying and playing other games. sure they give that one company a monthly subscription payment, but it doesn't help actual growth. <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:118233] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> If Activision (and Blizzard) didn't exist, FPSs and MMORPGs would be much less played than they are. That's quite a big consequencethe industry would be better off without MMO's. MMO players tend to get addicted to that one game and only play that one game, this doesn't promote buying and playing other games. sure they give that one company a monthly subscription payment, but it doesn't help actual growth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 07/21/11 4:30:00 PM #68:	*Liquid Wind posted...* nintendo isn't going to have a system with proper online until Q4 2012, so innovative being 6 years behind the times! Yeah, they're way behind when it comes to online, I'd agree with that. Moving forward, it's probably the most important thing that they need to get right in order to continue being on top. If they don't get that right for the Wii U, they'll probably have see some rough times ahead, and miss out on a whole lot of money. That's one area where Valve beats them by miles. Don't see that changing anytime soon either! -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. <cite>ZFS posted [p:118234] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> Liquid Wind posted...nintendo isn't going to have a system with proper online until Q4 2012, so innovative being 6 years behind the times!Yeah, they're way behind when it comes to online, I'd agree with that. Moving forward, it's probably the most important thing that they need to get right in order to continue being on top. If they don't get that right for the Wii U, they'll probably have see some rough times ahead, and miss out on a whole lot of money. That's one area where Valve beats them by miles. Don't see that changing anytime soon either! -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/21/11 4:30:00 PM #69:	*Kotetsu534 posted...* If Activision (and Blizzard) didn't exist, FPSs and MMORPGs would be much less played than they are. That's quite a big consequence, on top of massive sales (only rivalled by Nintendo). If Valve didn't exist FPS would very likely be dead as a genre right now. -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! <cite>OctilIery posted [p:118235] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> Kotetsu534 posted...If Activision (and Blizzard) didn't exist, FPSs and MMORPGs would be much less played than they are. That's quite a big consequence, on top of massive sales (only rivalled by Nintendo).If Valve didn't exist FPS would very likely be dead as a genre right now. -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato 07/21/11 4:31:00 PM #70:	does anyone in this topic besides HM actually know the different between 'a company you like' and 'a company that is important' -- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. <cite>KamikazePotato posted [p:118236] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> does anyone in this topic besides HM actually know the different between 'a company you like' and 'a company that is important' -- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 07/21/11 4:31:00 PM #71:	From: OctilIery \| Posted: 7/21/2011 7:30:49 PM \| #069 *Kotetsu534 posted...* If Activision (and Blizzard) didn't exist, FPSs and MMORPGs would be much less played than they are. That's quite a big consequence, on top of massive sales (only rivalled by Nintendo). If Valve didn't exist FPS would very likely be dead as a genre right now. what ... what this is the dumbest post in the topic by far -- SegMlCassieIsAmazingjhsux~&amp;gt;[64T2jampXDpikaness is awesome!8forgaMike RSmurf is too! <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:118237] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> From: OctilIery \| Posted: 7/21/2011 7:30:49 PM \| #069Kotetsu534 posted...If Activision (and Blizzard) didn't exist, FPSs and MMORPGs would be much less played than they are. That's quite a big consequence, on top of massive sales (only rivalled by Nintendo).If Valve didn't exist FPS would very likely be dead as a genre right now.what...whatthis is the dumbest post in the topic by far -- SegMlCassieIsAmazingjhsux~&amp;gt;[64T2jampXDpikaness is awesome!8forgaMike RSmurf is too! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punch_Sideiron 07/21/11 4:31:00 PM #72:	*OctilIery posted...* If Valve didn't exist FPS would very likely be dead as a genre right now. Explain. <cite>Punch_Sideiron posted [p:118238] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> OctilIery posted...If Valve didn't exist FPS would very likely be dead as a genre right now.Explain. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DCousGerbil 07/21/11 4:31:00 PM #73:	*OctilIery posted...* If Valve didn't exist FPS would very likely be dead as a genre right now. Valve=Worst Company in gaming then. -- http://i.imgur.com/WRgfu.gif <cite>DCousGerbil posted [p:118239] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> OctilIery posted...If Valve didn't exist FPS would very likely be dead as a genre right now.Valve=Worst Company in gaming then. -- http://i.imgur.com/WRgfu.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 07/21/11 4:32:00 PM #74:	From: DCousGerbil \| #062 I guess I forgot about steam. TBQH I didn't even know Valve made Steam. Regardless I literally downloaded it once to download Portal when it was free and have done nothing else with it, so... yeah barely a blip on the radar. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:118240] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> From: DCousGerbil \| #062I guess I forgot about steam. TBQH I didn't even know Valve made Steam. Regardless I literally downloaded it once to download Portal when it was free and have done nothing else with it, so... yeah barely a blip on the radar. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/21/11 4:32:00 PM #75:	FPS genre was on a major downward slide and was reinvigorated and revolutionized by Half-Life. -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! <cite>OctilIery posted [p:118241] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> FPS genre was on a major downward slide and was reinvigorated and revolutionized by Half-Life. -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 07/21/11 4:33:00 PM #76:	*OctilIery posted...* If Valve didn't exist FPS would very likely be dead as a genre right now. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:118242] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> OctilIery posted...If Valve didn't exist FPS would very likely be dead as a genre right now. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Silvercross 07/21/11 4:34:00 PM #77:	-- There was a signature here. It's gone now. Your face is bees. <cite>Silvercross posted [p:118243] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> -- There was a signature here. It's gone now.Your face is bees. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 07/21/11 4:34:00 PM #78:	What's it like making completely unfounded statements, Octi? -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:118244] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> What's it like making completely unfounded statements, Octi? -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kotetsu534 07/21/11 4:35:00 PM #79:	does anyone in this topic besides HM actually know the different between 'a company you like' and 'a company that is important' Me, or I'd be making the case for Atlus! -- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) <cite>Kotetsu534 posted [p:118245] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> does anyone in this topic besides HM actually know the different between 'a company you like' and 'a company that is important'Me, or I'd be making the case for Atlus! -- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ.(Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GuessMyUserName 07/21/11 4:35:00 PM #80:	From: OctilIery \| Posted: 7/21/2011 7:32:54 PM \| #075 FPS genre was on a major downward slide and was reinvigorated and revolutionized by Half-Life. wait are you going back to Half-Life 1? wtf? and you're raging on HM for mentioning Nintendo wow (not to mention your post is still incredibly stupid) -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/yuimoneygifan.gif <cite>GuessMyUserName posted [p:118246] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> From: OctilIery \| Posted: 7/21/2011 7:32:54 PM \| #075FPS genre was on a major downward slide and was reinvigorated and revolutionized by Half-Life.wait are you going back to Half-Life 1?wtf?and you're raging on HM for mentioning Nintendowow(not to mention your post is still incredibly stupid) -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/yuimoneygifan.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 07/21/11 4:36:00 PM #81:	From: Silvercross \| #077 -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:118247] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> From: Silvercross \| #077 -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/21/11 4:37:00 PM #82:	*GuessMyUserName posted...* From: OctilIery \| Posted: 7/21/2011 7:32:54 PM \| #075 FPS genre was on a major downward slide and was reinvigorated and revolutionized by Half-Life. wait are you going back to Half-Life 1? wtf? and you're raging on HM for mentioning Nintendo wow (not to mention your post is still incredibly stupid) Because it's not possible to have two seperate conversations? I'm not saying that's one of the reasons Valve is significant today. Although if you want to look at modern games, Valve has still been a massively important figure in the FPS genre! -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! <cite>OctilIery posted [p:118248] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> GuessMyUserName posted...From: OctilIery \| Posted: 7/21/2011 7:32:54 PM \| #075FPS genre was on a major downward slide and was reinvigorated and revolutionized by Half-Life.wait are you going back to Half-Life 1?wtf?and you're raging on HM for mentioning Nintendowow(not to mention your post is still incredibly stupid)Because it's not possible to have two seperate conversations?I'm not saying that's one of the reasons Valve is significant today. Although if you want to look at modern games, Valve has still been a massively important figure in the FPS genre! -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 07/21/11 4:37:00 PM #83:	are we just posting random gifs now <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:118249] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> are we just posting random gifs now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DCousGerbil 07/21/11 4:38:00 PM #84:	*Liquid Wind posted...* are we just posting random gifs now -- http://i.imgur.com/WRgfu.gif <cite>DCousGerbil posted [p:118250] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> Liquid Wind posted...are we just posting random gifs now -- http://i.imgur.com/WRgfu.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 07/21/11 4:39:00 PM #85:	are we just posting random gifs now -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:118251] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> are we just posting random gifs now -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/21/11 6:36:00 PM #86:	Apparently we are! -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! <cite>OctilIery posted [p:118252] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> Apparently we are! -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 07/21/11 8:20:00 PM #87:	From: OctilIery \| #069 If Valve didn't exist FPS would very likely be dead as a genre right now. -- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:118253] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> From: OctilIery \| #069If Valve didn't exist FPS would very likely be dead as a genre right now. -- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheOceIot 07/21/11 8:27:00 PM #88:	I love Valve and all, but there is no way they are the most important developer around. -- Currently playing: Portal 2 <cite>TheOceIot posted [p:118254] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> I love Valve and all, but there is no way they are the most important developer around. -- Currently playing: Portal 2 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BoshStrikesBack 07/21/11 8:33:00 PM #89:	does anyone in this topic besides HM actually know the different between 'a company you like' and 'a company that is important' Does anyone besides the TC and Liquid Wind know the difference between 'a company that is important' and 'a company that is influential'? There's no doubt that Nintendo's gimmicky, casuals-centered approach has definitely influenced gaming in a major way, but I don't know if I'd consider the direction to be a good one. Valve, on the other hand, is both hugely influential AND doing tons of things to help put gaming back on the right track. Semantics mainly, but you see my point. -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBpfwpOPXNc&NR=1&feature=fvwp I watch Planet Chasers Starlight Excellent all day, every day. <cite>BoshStrikesBack posted [p:118255] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> does anyone in this topic besides HM actually know the different between 'a company you like' and 'a company that is important'Does anyone besides the TC and Liquid Wind know the difference between 'a company that is important' and 'a company that is influential'? There's no doubt that Nintendo's gimmicky, casuals-centered approach has definitely influenced gaming in a major way, but I don't know if I'd consider the direction to be a good one. Valve, on the other hand, is both hugely influential AND doing tons of things to help put gaming back on the right track. Semantics mainly, but you see my point. -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBpfwpOPXNc&NR=1&feature=fvwpI watch Planet Chasers Starlight Excellent all day, every day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/21/11 8:54:00 PM #90:	*TheOceIot posted...* I love Valve and all, but there is no way they are the most important developer around. I have explained in detail how they are, though. -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! <cite>OctilIery posted [p:118256] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> TheOceIot posted...I love Valve and all, but there is no way they are the most important developer around.I have explained in detail how they are, though. -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 07/21/11 9:01:00 PM #91:	*BoshStrikesBack posted...* Does anyone besides the TC and Liquid Wind know the difference between 'a company that is important' and 'a company that is influential'? There's no doubt that Nintendo's gimmicky, casuals-centered approach has definitely influenced gaming in a major way, but I don't know if I'd consider the direction to be a good one. Valve, on the other hand, is both hugely influential AND doing tons of things to help put gaming back on the right track. Nintendo is both influential and important. That you don't like their approach, or the direction they've chosen to go in, doesn't really factor into the discussion here. It would if we were talking about "which company is the best," but 'best' and 'important' are two different ideas. -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. <cite>ZFS posted [p:118257] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> BoshStrikesBack posted...Does anyone besides the TC and Liquid Wind know the difference between 'a company that is important' and 'a company that is influential'? There's no doubt that Nintendo's gimmicky, casuals-centered approach has definitely influenced gaming in a major way, but I don't know if I'd consider the direction to be a good one. Valve, on the other hand, is both hugely influential AND doing tons of things to help put gaming back on the right track.Nintendo is both influential and important. That you don't like their approach, or the direction they've chosen to go in, doesn't really factor into the discussion here. It would if we were talking about "which company is the best," but 'best' and 'important' are two different ideas. -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolmor0n 07/21/11 9:01:00 PM #92:	-- _foolmo_ 'I love you so much' - SineNomine <cite>foolmor0n posted [p:118258] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> -- _foolmo_'I love you so much' - SineNomine </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/21/11 9:05:00 PM #93:	*ZFS posted...* BoshStrikesBack posted... Does anyone besides the TC and Liquid Wind know the difference between 'a company that is important' and 'a company that is influential'? There's no doubt that Nintendo's gimmicky, casuals-centered approach has definitely influenced gaming in a major way, but I don't know if I'd consider the direction to be a good one. Valve, on the other hand, is both hugely influential AND doing tons of things to help put gaming back on the right track. Nintendo is both influential and important. That you don't like their approach, or the direction they've chosen to go in, doesn't really factor into the discussion here. It would if we were talking about "which company is the best," but 'best' and 'important' are two different ideas. Nintendo have not been nearly as important as Valve in the last few years, as has been explained in this topic. -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! <cite>OctilIery posted [p:118259] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> ZFS posted...BoshStrikesBack posted...Does anyone besides the TC and Liquid Wind know the difference between 'a company that is important' and 'a company that is influential'? There's no doubt that Nintendo's gimmicky, casuals-centered approach has definitely influenced gaming in a major way, but I don't know if I'd consider the direction to be a good one. Valve, on the other hand, is both hugely influential AND doing tons of things to help put gaming back on the right track.Nintendo is both influential and important. That you don't like their approach, or the direction they've chosen to go in, doesn't really factor into the discussion here. It would if we were talking about "which company is the best," but 'best' and 'important' are two different ideas.Nintendo have not been nearly as important as Valve in the last few years, as has been explained in this topic. -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BoshStrikesBack 07/21/11 9:28:00 PM #94:	Nintendo is both influential and important. That you don't like their approach, or the direction they've chosen to go in, doesn't really factor into the discussion here. It would if we were talking about "which company is the best," but 'best' and 'important' are two different ideas. Not exactly. "Influential" is a matter of pure objectivity, "best" pure subjectivity, and "important" lies somewhere in the middle, a mixture of what the company has done and whether or not such actions have been positive. If you're just talking influence, then you're just talking influence. -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBpfwpOPXNc&NR=1&feature=fvwp I watch Planet Chasers Starlight Excellent all day, every day. <cite>BoshStrikesBack posted [p:118260] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> Nintendo is both influential and important. That you don't like their approach, or the direction they've chosen to go in, doesn't really factor into the discussion here. It would if we were talking about "which company is the best," but 'best' and 'important' are two different ideas.Not exactly. "Influential" is a matter of pure objectivity, "best" pure subjectivity, and "important" lies somewhere in the middle, a mixture of what the company has done and whether or not such actions have been positive. If you're just talking influence, then you're just talking influence. -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBpfwpOPXNc&NR=1&feature=fvwpI watch Planet Chasers Starlight Excellent all day, every day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 07/21/11 9:34:00 PM #95:	You've explained how Steam has been important to PC gaming, how it's given developers and publishers a platform to do well on the PC. That doesn't explain, or negate, the importance Nintendo has had in the console and portable space, how they've expanded the market, driven growth of the industry, created a new input method for interacting with games, and their developers similarly making quality games. The past few years Nintendo have been more important to gaming than any point in the past 15. What criteria is Valve meeting that Nintendo isn't, especially to not be "nearly as important"? -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. <cite>ZFS posted [p:118261] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> You've explained how Steam has been important to PC gaming, how it's given developers and publishers a platform to do well on the PC. That doesn't explain, or negate, the importance Nintendo has had in the console and portable space, how they've expanded the market, driven growth of the industry, created a new input method for interacting with games, and their developers similarly making quality games. The past few years Nintendo have been more important to gaming than any point in the past 15. What criteria is Valve meeting that Nintendo isn't, especially to not be "nearly as important"? -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 07/21/11 9:38:00 PM #96:	*ZFS posted...* You've explained how Steam has been important to PC gaming, how it's given developers and publishers a platform to do well on the PC. That doesn't explain, or negate, the importance Nintendo has had in the console and portable space, how they've expanded the market, driven growth of the industry, created a new input method for interacting with games, and their developers similarly making quality games. The past few years Nintendo have been more important to gaming than any point in the past 15. What criteria is Valve meeting that Nintendo isn't, especially to not be "nearly as important"? Actually I explained how digital distribution has become a major force OUTSIDE of PC gaming, expanding to Xbox Live, PSN and Nintendo Stores, Smartphones, etc etc. And Nintendo didn't create a new input method. They just popularized it. The technology has been around for ages, and hasn't really done much to change gaming now that it's popular, while looking at the several areas that, were we following Nintendo, gaming would be severely held back. -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! <cite>OctilIery posted [p:118262] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> ZFS posted...You've explained how Steam has been important to PC gaming, how it's given developers and publishers a platform to do well on the PC. That doesn't explain, or negate, the importance Nintendo has had in the console and portable space, how they've expanded the market, driven growth of the industry, created a new input method for interacting with games, and their developers similarly making quality games. The past few years Nintendo have been more important to gaming than any point in the past 15. What criteria is Valve meeting that Nintendo isn't, especially to not be "nearly as important"?Actually I explained how digital distribution has become a major force OUTSIDE of PC gaming, expanding to Xbox Live, PSN and Nintendo Stores, Smartphones, etc etc.And Nintendo didn't create a new input method. They just popularized it. The technology has been around for ages, and hasn't really done much to change gaming now that it's popular, while looking at the several areas that, were we following Nintendo, gaming would be severely held back. -- Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the icon ownz all 07/21/11 9:38:00 PM #97:	-- ICON: the raindrops the raindrops the raindrops the raindrops the raindrops the raindrops the raindrops the raindrops <cite>the icon ownz all posted [p:118263] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> -- ICON:the raindrops the raindrops the raindrops the raindrops the raindrops the raindrops the raindrops the raindrops </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
the icon ownz all 07/21/11 9:39:00 PM #98:	i'm sorry what is this topic about again -- ICON: #Kanyeshrug <cite>the icon ownz all posted [p:118264] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> i'm sorry what is this topic about again -- ICON:#Kanyeshrug </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KJH 07/21/11 9:41:00 PM #99:	You know, honestly I don't really know if attributing Steam under the list of accomplishments for Valve really counts for being an important game developer in the right way. Like, it's important overall for sure, but it doesn't really establish them in sense of being "game developers". It's like if I were saying I'm the most important person in my job, and the reason why is something entirely unrelated to how I do my job or the quality at which I do the job. -- I have no idea who you are, but I thank you for arousing me. - Beruga Brawl FC: 3823-8243-5663 <cite>KJH posted [p:118265] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> You know, honestly I don't really know if attributing Steam under the list of accomplishments for Valve really counts for being an important game developer in the right way. Like, it's important overall for sure, but it doesn't really establish them in sense of being "game developers".It's like if I were saying I'm the most important person in my job, and the reason why is something entirely unrelated to how I do my job or the quality at which I do the job. -- I have no idea who you are, but I thank you for arousing me. - BerugaBrawl FC: 3823-8243-5663 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 07/21/11 9:46:00 PM #100:	Digitial distribution wasn't made huge by Steam, especially as far as smartphones are concerned. It influenced consoles, to some extent, but even then, you're kinda stretching it. I didn't mean to imply that Nintendo created motion technology, but as far as providing a platform where that could excel, become a legitimate option for developers to use and create games with and except to see sales in return, the Wii certainly went down an unconventional path that has proven to be majorly successful. Much in the same way the DS didn't invent touch screen tech, but it created a platform for it to be used with gaming -- and the DS is the most successful gaming platform ever released. -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. <cite>ZFS posted [p:118266] in Reminder: ... [t:59799312]...</cite> <quote> Digitial distribution wasn't made huge by Steam, especially as far as smartphones are concerned. It influenced consoles, to some extent, but even then, you're kinda stretching it. I didn't mean to imply that Nintendo created motion technology, but as far as providing a platform where that could excel, become a legitimate option for developers to use and create games with and except to see sales in return, the Wii certainly went down an unconventional path that has proven to be majorly successful. Much in the same way the DS didn't invent touch screen tech, but it created a platform for it to be used with gaming -- and the DS is the most successful gaming platform ever released. -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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