Board 8 > Seriously, why is there only one fighting game tournament on the scale of Evo?

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70,000 people just watched an amazing MVC3 final. There are tons of other tournaments but nothing is on the same level.

What's up with that? Should there be another tournament on that level or is Evo only this big because it's like the super bowl of the fighting game community?

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I think you answered your own question.

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If another fighting game tournament hits 70k, Evo will be at 150k.

It just got started first, is well run (relatively speaking), and is the one tournament where all the top players in the world come. Until they start going to other tournaments consistently, Evo will always have the most top players and therefore be a 'better' tournament.

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it's more than that though. you get video game reveals at Evo. it's in Vegas. it's got a sense of professionalism. video game companies get behind it. mainstream video game news sites report on it.

it's just so far on another level. given how huge it is, you'd think there's be room in the market for other tournaments on that scale.

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The scene isn't big enough yet.

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it looks pretty big to me right now! I haven't seen the board this captivated by a video game event since e3.

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Well, it's starting to get there as EVO becomes more popular. I think you'll start seeing other things pop up like this in time.

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Godsgarden is pretty big in Japan, right?

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SBO is bigger, but they do that differently. they don't stream it and it's a one match elimination tournament. it doesn't have the same impact that Evo does, at least from an internet standpoint.

Godsgarden is cool though

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If there is room for Poker on TV, there is room for Video Game vs. matches. It would be neat to see it reach pro sport levels.

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Actually, it would be terrible because like televised poker televised video game matches are stupid and boring.

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Evo is the Super Bowl, at least on this side of the pond. And wasn't it significantly smaller just a couple years ago before SFIV? Who knows if the fighter resurgence will last a while.

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PartOfYourWorld posted...
Evo is the Super Bowl, at least on this side of the pond. And wasn't it significantly smaller just a couple years ago before SFIV? Who knows if the fighter resurgence will last a while.

People will argue this with me, but the only big fighter before SFIV was MvC2. That alone carried tournaments for years while other games came and went, and now SFIV is carrying tournaments, with MvC3 coming on strong, while games like BlazBlue have a cult following so they get some decent play.

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bumping this after that top 8 in SSF4

dear god why is this only once a year

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Iwith MvC3 coming on strong

I thought MvC3 was dying because it's a joke game? Or is that just another "board 8 thing'?

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Is there a Call of Duty tournament like EVO that gets alot of viewership?

redrocket posted...
Iwith MvC3 coming on strong

I thought MvC3 was dying because it's a joke game? Or is that just another "board 8 thing'?

have you been exclusively reading bio/ulti posts

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have you been exclusively reading bio/ulti posts

doubt it. he's still alive.


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did that daigo guy lose

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did that daigo guy lose

In glorious fashion

So glorious

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Theo72 posted...
redrocket posted...
Iwith MvC3 coming on strong

I thought MvC3 was dying because it's a joke game? Or is that just another "board 8 thing'?

have you been exclusively reading bio/ulti posts

I thought it was more than just Bio/Ulti saying that. That the game's balance is so completely awful, both with character balance and general game mechanics like X Factor, that it was considered an even bigger disappointment than Brawl was to the Smash community.

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i think fighting game tournaments are pretty embarrassing but daigo is a great heel

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MVC3 got a ton of people signing up for it and showcased an insane tournament with great moments, on the competitive scene at the very least, it won't be dying anytime soon.

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I quite like the concept of 'all roads lead to EVO' that the smaller tournaments have leading up to the grand event. If there was another tournament on the scale of EVO I think it would diminish them both a bit. We get so hyped because it's a once a year thing where everyone turns out to take the fight money. Don't go messing with a good thing tbqh.

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From: TimJab | #024
i think fighting game tournaments are pretty embarrassing but daigo is a great heel

He's often face or tweener >_>, not being a jackass helps.

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TimJab posted...
i think fighting game tournaments are pretty embarrassing

Also... what?

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You think UMVC3 will be THAT poorly received?

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Unbalanced games get love and play for many years (hello 3S and MvC2). Can't really comment on the other two points.

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Evo is mania, I like that idea.

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From: voltch | #028
He's often face or tweener >_>, not being a jackass helps.

i might be thinking of the wrong guy then

who was the japanese guy who said he was coming to dominate everyone

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GANON1025 posted...
You think UMVC3 will be THAT poorly received?

(Joke)

('w') <- Your head

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uh huh, you sure got me

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who was the japanese guy who said he was coming to dominate everyone

I think that was Daigo, talking about MvC3. He got perfected off-screen.

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yeah, I dunno why people expected MvC3 to be balanced given Marvel Fighting games history.....

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From: FFDragon | #027
I quite like the concept of 'all roads lead to EVO' that the smaller tournaments have leading up to the grand event. If there was another tournament on the scale of EVO I think it would diminish them both a bit. We get so hyped because it's a once a year thing where everyone turns out to take the fight money. Don't go messing with a good thing tbqh.

I wouldn't change a word of this. Perfect explanation. Maybe we can have more of these "road to EVO" tournaments throughout the year, but nothing should try to duplicate or challenge EVO's status as Wrestlemania. Better to just expand EVO itself imo.

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Well, I'm not 100% sure about it being a perfect, but that's what I heard.

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I just want more EVO, damnit. Make it a 4-5 day celebration of fighting games.

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I've already invited some of my friends to it next year. I have a feeling with the ridiculous game lineup incoming and with the fantastic word of mouth this will get (and has already gotten), EVO 2012 will ****ing dwarf this one. There's no way I'm missing next year's in person, not when I live 10 miles down the road now.

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PartOfYourWorld posted...
I've already invited some of my friends to it next year. I have a feeling with the ridiculous game lineup incoming and with the fantastic word of mouth this will get (and has already gotten), EVO 2012 will ****ing dwarf this one. There's no way I'm missing next year's in person, not when I live 10 miles down the road now.

You need a sign for the camera... hold up a giant picture of Cammy's ass.

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I'm going to try my best to attend next year too, if only to spectate. Way too much **** going on not to try.

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fighting games are always imbalanced

also, if evo was more than once a year, it wouldn't be as good as less foreigners would attend at once

also didn't mlg put up some pretty big numbers when it ran fighting games?

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Yeah my parents live in Vegas and my dad works VIP for MGM, so I think I'm going to conveniently go visit the folks during EVO time next year.

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evo might be bigger next year with uvmc3, sfxt, and sc5 , but 2013 will probably shrink as fighting game hype dies down a bit

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MVC2 did not carry Evo before SFIV.

3S, Tekken and Guilty Gear put up bigger numbers almost every year. Hype and exposure? Sure MVC2 is the best. Turn outs? not so much. It was bigger then CVS2 and ST I guess...

Also being in a small tiny hotel no where near the strip for the first few years definitely helped. I think 2k8 was the first year near the strip. Moving to the strip was a big advancement for them. SFIV being as big as it is skyrocketed it.

Final Round, SBO, NEC are the other big tournaments. Evo is the only important one to fighting gamers tho. The timing and everything is just right. Summer, Vegas, Friends, Games. Other tournaments are placed at kinda weird times of the year in places not as easily accessible for travelers.

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Whatever...

I don't know if I buy the "all roads lead to Evo" thing. it's more like there's Evo and then there's a bunch of other random tournaments that most people don't know about until they've begun.

I think it'd be cool if they made the whole thing a little bit more professional. they should have some kind of scoring system like in Golf or Tennis or something that assigns rankings; finish first place and you get 50 points, second and you get 25, etc. Evo started getting more professional this year with serious commentators and Ultradavid dressing up and all that. I hope they push more in that direction. obviously I don't want them to get too professional because it could kill some of the hype, but I'd like to see someone maintain the pools/brackets online so everyone knows what the hell is going on, for some on-screen graphics, for some replay technology (Ark nailed this one in the Evo topics), etc. how can you have that Tron level 3 without a replay afterwards.

anyway, I just want more amazing atmospheres like Evo. you couldn't have that kind of top 8 anywhere else, and it's not because the players don't come. it just isn't as crazy exciting when it's not the super bowl of sporting events. call me greedy.

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xyzzy

I hope they'll really try to implement that stuff, because they better realize that it'll be way bigger next year. We need, at the very least, easily accessible and understandable brackets. A point system is also a good idea; it would help fans recognize the top players. I was thinking about how awesome a replay system would be, but that seems kinda tough to pull off.

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What kind of point system are we talking here? I'm not seeing what one would accomplish that "1st place, 2nd place, 3rd place" doesn't already do.

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a rankings system. they technically have one - Wolfkrone is the #1 seed for Evo, for instance - but I'd like to see that stuff public. make a bracket that people can see and seed all the players to give people a sense of who's who and what's an upset.

-- like that, basically. I'd be really interested to see who the top 5 players are. of course, fgs aren't big enough or pay enough money where players can just go to every tournament in the country, so it might just be futile. it'd be awesome if they could get there though. too bad somebody doesn't pick up Evo like ESPN picked up WSOP. that could really trigger a popularity explosion. you have to know Evo is on in order to find it whereas you might just stumble across it on TV.

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