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Justin_Crossing
08/03/11 11:50:00 AM
#51:


From: Biolizard28 | #049
I think Blitzcrank is my most hated champion now.

Seems like every time I fight one, he's an unkillable, nuking piece of crap.

Goddamn I hate him so much.

Also, it's really ****ing funny how often I run into the same "Dude, come on, initiate" jerks who don't follow me into the fight when I actually do and leave me to die.

Absolutely hilarious.


maybe it's because you initiate at bad times so they don't follow you in and then get angry when you don't initiate at good times

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Biolizard28
08/03/11 11:52:00 AM
#52:


It's not just his shield. That just makes him a bigger jerk than he already is.

By level 2 he can hold you in place and beat you to death for nothing just because he landed one move.

So people end up feeding or spoon feed him by abandoning people who get caught.

And then the game snowballs.

And then you surrender at 20 because one lane had either bad luck or a bad player.

**** him.

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Biolizard28
08/03/11 11:54:00 AM
#53:


Justin_Crossing posted...
maybe it's because you initiate at bad times so they don't follow you in and then get angry when you don't initiate at good times

Lane Trundle who farmed in lanes while the rest of the team was trying to start a fight.

Do you honestly think he knows the difference?

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Peace___Frog
08/03/11 12:02:00 PM
#54:


Blitzcrank does not snowball. At all. A fed Blitzcrank is no more damaging to your team than a fed Soraka. It's not ideal, sure, but it's nothing like a fed Corki or anything.

And as for "he landed one move" - it actually has a relatively short range, and the animation forces blitzcrank to stop for a second, then shoot it out. He can't do it on the move or anything. Just don't run in a straight line and work on making your movements less predictable.

This coming from the guy who used to land his shots a lot but now missing 90% of them because people are better at dodging it.

Or maybe I've just gotten worse.

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Biolizard28
08/03/11 12:05:00 PM
#55:


Peace___Frog posted...
A fed Blitzcrank is no more damaging to your team than a fed Soraka.

Dude

keep in mind I read the rest of your post

but come on

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Aecioo
08/03/11 12:08:00 PM
#56:


Blitz has like, zero damage sustained damage. He's just a big burst machine, except his burst relies on grabbing someone, which is a lot more than a lot of other champions.

Aside from that he doesn't do much damage tbqh

Not that it matters since most of the time that he grabs someone they will instantly die to his team.

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Peace___Frog
08/03/11 12:11:00 PM
#57:


DPS AD Blitzcrank (which is better at knocking down towers than AP Blitz) really isn't good at just standing there and autoattacking. Sure he has a speed-up and a move that doubles his damage every 5 seconds (at max level), but he is no AD carry by any means. And the cooldowns on his grab at level one are 17ish seconds, and at max they're closer to 10 or 11. So take advantage of those down times.

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Biolizard28
08/03/11 12:13:00 PM
#58:


Aecioo posted...
Not that it matters since most of the time that he grabs someone they will instantly die to his team.

DING DING DING

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Aecioo
08/03/11 12:15:00 PM
#59:


at least he's not devourer/pudge

Blitz is the neutered version of that!

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Peace___Frog
08/03/11 12:18:00 PM
#60:


Not necessarily. Bitzcrank grabbing someone with their own gap closer is bad, because then that closer isn't on CD during the first part of the team fight. Blitz grabbing someone like Morde, Amumu, Alistar, and so on, spells instant death for his own team.

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Justin_Crossing
08/03/11 12:59:00 PM
#61:


WHY

ARE PEOPLE

SO

****ING.

GREEDY

GOD ****ING DAMNIT

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Peace___Frog
08/03/11 1:02:00 PM
#62:


Agree

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Biolizard28
08/03/11 1:23:00 PM
#63:


Also, peaf, you seem to think that Blitz is only going to grab you while you're laning.

During a team fight in top lane, one of our dudes was grabbed through the wall separating the river and blue's outermost tower.

That's not even counting how many times I wasn't looking at him that he caught people from the brush, or something.

It just gets really annoying when you know that Blitz is going to be a problem with his teammate riding his metallic nuts all game, as if you could kill him anyway, but there's nothing you can really do about it aside from have a team mate who's in fighting condition.

Now consider this: SOLO QUEUE

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Peace___Frog
08/03/11 1:27:00 PM
#64:


Peace___Frog posted...
Not necessarily. Bitzcrank grabbing someone with their own gap closer is bad, because then that closer isn't on CD during the first part of the team fight. Blitz grabbing someone like Morde, Amumu, Alistar, and so on, spells instant death for his own team.

not related to laning at all

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Peace___Frog
08/03/11 1:29:00 PM
#65:


Well yes, a good blitz can grab through walls into darkness to anticipate where you are.

Solve this by standing further from the walls.

Play Blitz some time. See how short his grab actually is. The skillshot marker for it is actually a bit deceiving, even - the grab does not hit things at the end of the marker, where it goes from a line into a point. The hitbox from side to side is also relatively small. If he's in the brush, stand about half a lane away from the brush. General rule of thumb.

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Biolizard28
08/03/11 1:30:00 PM
#66:


Well when I say the grab pisses me off you're just like "WELP, MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BE WALKING IN A STRAIGHT LINE, SON"

And as for that post, he wasn't grabbing those types of champions.

Any Blitz who grabs a tank needs to reevaluate his life.

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Peace___Frog
08/03/11 2:17:00 PM
#67:


Accidents happen. >_>

I'm just saying that Blitz is actually a relatively easy champ to play against if you're not greedy.

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TheConductorSix
08/03/11 4:08:00 PM
#68:


I'll never understand Riot. Trynd and Kayle were two late game beasts that needed great farm or early kills to thrive. They had no need for these changes. Trynd getting a 1.0 ratio while keeping his ap is silly. What they did to kayle was even worse. The idea was fine except it should have applied instantly. Her passive now reads 'get guinsoo or else'.

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Biolizard28
08/03/11 4:10:00 PM
#69:


Ugh a bunch of 3150s on sale.

Granted, it's a pub stomper and one of the most OP champs in the game right now along with who cares, but still 3150s.

I don't know about this.

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azazel22
08/03/11 4:45:00 PM
#70:


Weird question: Does anybody follow like competitive/pro LoL? And if so, do you know of a player that goes by Yang somethingorother?

>_>

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KanzarisKelshen
08/03/11 4:51:00 PM
#71:


TheConductorSix posted...
I'll never understand Riot. Trynd and Kayle were two late game beasts that needed great farm or early kills to thrive. They had no need for these changes. Trynd getting a 1.0 ratio while keeping his ap is silly. What they did to kayle was even worse. The idea was fine except it should have applied instantly. Her passive now reads 'get guinsoo or else'.

Not like you weren't getting Guinsoo as your first item anyway!

Also, Trynd is a rape machine now. If he goes against another AD character of any sort, he wins the lane solo.

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KanzarisKelshen
08/03/11 4:52:00 PM
#72:


Biolizard28 posted...
Ugh a bunch of 3150s on sale.

Granted, it's a pub stomper and one of the most OP champs in the game right now along with who cares, but still 3150s.

I don't know about this.


I'm not sure whether that covers Plank or Morde, funnily enough. Those labels fit either one.

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TheConductorSix
08/03/11 5:09:00 PM
#73:


Kayle had so many ways to play. I used to open with Rylai's and just chase down everything. Sometimes I would go the lich bane route. Point is her passive gave her so much variety. Now to make her passive even usable you have to buy attack speed. Now, not all is bad, her E is spammable as all Hell, but without her passive it's not as meaningful when you don't have 200 attack plus 240 ap hitting multiple enemies.

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Biolizard28
08/03/11 5:51:00 PM
#74:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
I'm not sure whether that covers Plank or Morde, funnily enough. Those labels fit either one.

Of course it's Plank and Morde, silly.

I may actually take the net loss and buy Gangplank just because. I had fun with him when he was free like last month and I don't need to buy Morde since he's free like every other week anyway. Never played Olaf, don't intend to yet.

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Peace___Frog
08/03/11 7:54:00 PM
#75:


Taric is kind of awesome.

Just don't know what items I should be striving for early on.

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Biolizard28
08/03/11 8:27:00 PM
#76:


I tend to build Taric like I would a tank: Philo, HoG, Mercs early on. I usually pick up Soulstealer to passively raise my AP to acceptable levels. Then, it pretty much varies. I don't actually know what a good Taric build is, but this works well enough for me.

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TheConductorSix
08/03/11 8:30:00 PM
#77:


Gangplank is currently my favorite off tank. Triforce warmogs atmas lol. He has sivir's ult as a normal move. He can shake off any cc with a self heal. His Q combines with triforce majestically. His ult saves turrets and creates unfair situations all over the map. He's just really good right now. Taric is my pick for best AD carry feeder. When you lane against taric you know you're going to get stunned and the ranged carry is going to pop you. You know Shatter will make that Carry very hard to kill and that once you hit 6 Tarics ult will make that carry even more terrifying. You can build taric like a standard support with gold items. You can make him an aura whore seeing as he has two built in. You can tank with him. Hell you can build ap items turn your ult on and just be hard as Hell to kill.

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Peace___Frog
08/03/11 8:42:00 PM
#78:


But what should I start with? I had some mana problems as Taric, but getting just the mana part of the philostone leaves me with almost 300 left at the base.

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Peace___Frog
08/03/11 8:47:00 PM
#79:


And getting Meki Pendant sets the Philo stone further back >_>

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Justin_Crossing
08/03/11 8:54:00 PM
#80:


From: TheConductorSix | #068
I'll never understand Riot. Trynd and Kayle were two late game beasts that needed great farm or early kills to thrive. They had no need for these changes. Trynd getting a 1.0 ratio while keeping his ap is silly. What they did to kayle was even worse. The idea was fine except it should have applied instantly. Her passive now reads 'get guinsoo or else'.


What they did to kayle (paraphrasing a red post here) was not to make her rework instantly good. They just wanted a build that they could fiddle with if it was underpowered, or overpowered or whatever state it was in. The way she worked before required a remake to be fiddled with. She still plays fundamentally the same so yeah.

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Biolizard28
08/03/11 8:57:00 PM
#81:


I usually just start with regrowth pendant and a mana pot and deal with the fact that Taric has mana issues until I get my philo. You could always turn the Meki into a chalice when you beam back to base, since the extrea mres is still nice and the regen basically means Taric never has to go back to the fountain.

Alternatively, just sell it when you're done with it. >_>

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TheConductorSix
08/03/11 9:17:00 PM
#82:


Again I don't see what was wrong with old Kayle. She was high risk high reward early on. She needed lots of farm or kills to be successful mid game. If she succeeded in both areas she became a tryndamere like beast end game. It worked for her. To be honest all she needed was a smaller cooldown on the E.

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Justin_Crossing
08/03/11 9:55:00 PM
#83:


From: TheConductorSix | #082
Again I don't see what was wrong with old Kayle. She was high risk high reward early on. She needed lots of farm or kills to be successful mid game. If she succeeded in both areas she became a tryndamere like beast end game. It worked for her. To be honest all she needed was a smaller cooldown on the E.


They don't want tryndamere-like beasts in the late game (who deal AoE damage and can heal herself better than trynd can). I mean that's why they nerfed Trynd >_>

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Heroic_CactObo
08/03/11 11:25:00 PM
#84:


I'm kinda getting sick and tired of seeing tryndamere's literally every single game now

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Justin_Crossing
08/04/11 6:31:00 AM
#85:


http://kotaku.com/5827657/league-of-legends-gets-new-fast+paced-game-mode-map/gallery/1

holy balls

holy ****ing ****balls

that is so much better than magma chamber

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Justin_Crossing
08/04/11 7:26:00 AM
#86:


Replace Orianna with Brand

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Aecioo
08/04/11 7:26:00 AM
#87:


I still don't get the whole only playing a couple champions thing!

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voltch
08/04/11 7:44:00 AM
#88:


well then this dominion mode.

1300 gold to start with at level 3 nd gme ends at the 30min mark..., oh dear.

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Silverliner182V
08/04/11 8:14:00 AM
#89:


tryndamere will be amazing in that game mode

start with an early zeal, lol

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Justin_Crossing
08/04/11 8:17:00 AM
#90:


oh god i just realized that dominion is going to play like tol barad but with 5 capture points

oh god

oh god no

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voltch
08/04/11 8:23:00 AM
#91:


Magma Chamber mode.....wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Peace___Frog
08/04/11 12:18:00 PM
#92:


Huh. Should be interesting.

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MercuryAdept17
08/04/11 12:46:00 PM
#93:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
Yes, Amumu is stupid. Any character whose power is 90% condensed in his ult will be because ults are already strong and supercharging them is stupid.

On another note, is anybody up for being my ranked partner guys? Looking for a pal to climb up the ranks with.


I'd be willing to do some doubles with you Kan. I'm hovering between 1350-1400 at the moment, so if you want to just let me know.

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Gwindor
08/04/11 4:16:00 PM
#94:


hi guys

I haven't had internet so let me tag this topic

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HanOfTheNekos
08/04/11 8:11:00 PM
#95:


So Heimer is a top tier AP Carry?

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Justin_Crossing
08/04/11 8:12:00 PM
#96:


From: HanOfTheNekos | #095
So Heimer is a top tier AP Carry?


is twitch tankier than alistar?

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Biolizard28
08/04/11 8:19:00 PM
#97:


Is Tristana the best AD carry?

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Peace___Frog
08/04/11 8:58:00 PM
#98:


are crits insane?

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Anagram
08/04/11 11:34:00 PM
#99:


Does anyone have a link to that topic on the official forums that shows all of the skins?

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TheConductorSix
08/05/11 12:01:00 AM
#100:


I plan on switching my main to irelia permanently. Tanky dps is the one role I have yet to find a proficient character and I think she'll be it. Solomid has a guide using health regen quints that I think i'll try out. Basically giving her even more ridiculous sustainability. For the people more experienced with her, when should I start being aggressive in solo lane and who can I/can't I bully?

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