Board 8 > JJ Abrams throws down the gauntlet [L O S T]

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http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/j-j-abrams-asks-can-you-do-better-regarding-lost-ending.php

Do woebegone Losties give Abrams an earful about the finale?

"Oh my God, yes," he groans. "For years, I had people praising Lost to death, and now they say: 'I'm so pissed at you for the end of Lost.' I think a lot of people who were upset with the ending, were just upset that it ended. And I've not yet heard the pitch of what the ending should have been. I've just heard: 'That sucked.'"

Hope his inbox is ready for the deluge. Because seriously anything would be better than "The End." :P

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I can only think of a few minor things I'd change about the ending itself.

But that's only the ending. If I had the opportunity to change significant portions of Season 6 to get a better ending, I would. But I feel like the ending's mostly the best we could get with what a crap season led up to it.

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From: Mega Mana | Posted: 8/4/2011 12:13:21 PM | #002
I can only think of a few minor things I'd change about the ending itself.

But that's only the ending. If I had the opportunity to change significant portions of Season 6 to get a better ending, I would. But I feel like the ending's mostly the best we could get with what a crap season led up to it.

I agree to a degree. I do think with a few (fairly major) plot tweaks a good portion of Season 6 could be salvaged (though not the last 3-4 episodes). I actually enjoyed many of the Season 6 episodes until I realized exactly what was going on. <_<

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Someone should find that massive essay that dude wrote about how to make Lost's final season much better that virtually everyone, including those who actually liked it, agreed would have been very superior.

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From: PrivateBiscuit1 | Posted: 8/4/2011 12:21:19 PM | #004
Someone should find that massive essay that dude wrote about how to make Lost's final season much better that virtually everyone, including those who actually liked it, agreed would have been very superior.

I too would like this link. <_<

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I pretty much agree with MM. The ending was fantastic, but the final season as a whole was disappointing. S6 had a lot of great episodes, but overall I didn't like how they slowed it down and pretty much stopped trying to surprise us.

Still a 10/10 show.

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What is it with promising shows having bad endings? The Sopranos, BSG, and others I'm sure.

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The entire last season was a trainwreck and the finale was no exception. There have been proposed S6's that are both better and somehow worse than what we've got and there are dozens upon dozens of them out there, so I have no idea what Abrams is talking about. >_>

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PurpleMonkDish posted...
What is it with promising shows having bad endings? The Sopranos, BSG, and others I'm sure.

Controversial endings, not necessarily bad. People always have their own ideas on how they want it to end and will b**** when it goes another way. That's why a lot of people hate the last Harry Potter book, even though it's the best in the series.

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Also why does everything think Abrams was still in charge of the show?

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Theon_Greyjoy posted...
Also why does everything think Abrams was still in charge of the show?

That has been what I've been asking for a long time. Creatively speaking he had nothing to do with show for a long time.

My main issue with the last season was, to me, it felt like the whole "alternative universe," as the kids where calling it, seemed like a cheap excuse to get most everyone back for one final group shot. It had it's moments. I honestly enjoyed most of the on island stuff. I was also never one that expected a crap ton of answers and was mainly watching because I enjoyed the characters. Desmond is still one of my favorite TV show characters of all time.

Season six second best season!

It would have been way cooler if it had actually been an alternate universe like they were leading us to believe, instead of the much less satisfying thing we got.

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Same for me!

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Some quick things I would do:
1) Don't make the alternate universe purgatory. Or at least don't set up an alternate universe storyline since the Season 5 finale that's somehow going to influence events in the current day to stop The Man in Black when it really has nothing to do with the story at all, takes at least fifteen minutes out of every episode just to set up fanservice, and plays no character strengthening role like flashbacks did or flashforwards eventually did. At least the flashforwards led somewhere with plot purpose and relevance to the story at hand. It's was a great idea for Lost originally, when the character stories mattered, but it's lame bull**** and terrible writing the way it was brought about and set-up. And they're in heaven together because of the nuke? Really?

2) Actually make it all about the characters. The creators can't say the show was all about the characters when at least half the characters are given the shaft.

Sayid: I died, now I'm alive. I'm also going to turn evil because of the sickness so I must kill Flocke before he talks to me. Whoops, he's spoken to me and now I no longer care if I kill a ton of people and the guy that tortured me. Woe is me. I'm so apathetic, I'm now speaking with a British accent. Time to kill Desmond? Okay. Hey, Desmond. What's that? Words of meaning? I'll go with my fellow Lost mates into the unknown even though I'm supposedly evil. I can run our of here with this bomb, but I don't know how long the batteries will la-

Sun: Have you seen my husbant? Have you seen my husbant? Have you seen my husbant? Have you seen my husbant? <Oh no, the smoke monster made it so I can no longer speak English for some reason. The only way to save me is to find my husbant. Have you seen my husbant?> Hey, hubby, I hope these pylons don't kill us when we hug! What's that? Oh, Jin, save yourself. You are so noble and loving to stay and drown with me. I will never forget those I love. I love you so much, Jin.

Ji Yeon: Where's mommy?

Claire: I'm crazy! You all forgot about me! Lookit mah baybeh! Isn't he the cutest little goat-skull? Locke is my BFF! The others are bad people who took mah baybeh! Kate came back for me even though she elft me here? SHE STOLE MAH BAYBEH? Whatever, I'm just gonna mope now. Oh we're leaving? K. Let's be lesbians in the afterlife, Katie.

Michael: Sup. I died.

Kate: I saved a bullet for you!

Richard Alpert: I'm not really all that special. I just showed up one day and now I'm ageless. I'm really not as powerful or magnificient as you once thought I was. Now my hair is turning grey.

Jacob: I'm not really all that special. I was just born one day and a crazy lady adopted me and my bad twin. He's evil because mom says he is. I'm kind of a dick and really not as powerful or magnificient as you once were led to believe.

Barry: I'm the man in black, the smoke monster, Jacob's brother. I've been tormenting this island for millenia and now I've taken over Locke's body. All part of the master plan to find a loophole and leave this island. Why? Why not? There's been some nice writing about how I may not be a complete black hat in this game and my motivations are just a depressed manchild curious about the world and trying desperately to understand why my mom's dead and get away from my crazy-ass fake mother. But apparently, nope, I'm just straight up evil with no redeeming qualities unlike all the other murderers and torturers and *******s who permeate the place.

Widmore: I am Charles Widmore. I am the true leader of this island and Ben has spent the last thirty years exiling me and working to keep me out of power. Our showdown will be truly glorious... as he shoots me after about five minutes of conversation just to ruin Smokey's plans a bit.

Desmond: ...Somewhat forgivable since he found Penny and that was his main story, but still. Two seasons where he does crap all after being such a fan favorite.

Ilana: Jacob picked me to be his last bastion in the war against Barry in case something went wrong. I gather up a bunch of people and then I make like an Arzt and explode without really doing anything. So much for build-up.

Tina Fey: Hi! I'm Widmore's shrewy second-in-command. And now I'm dead!

Jack, Hurley, and Ben are the only characters to get any real character development outside of their own episodes. It just irks me that we get such ****ty use of characters in the final seasons. No one has any motivations. They're just so burnt out by all these adventures that they just follow whichever person's in charge that day to whatever plot place moves the story forward. Why? Who the **** cares what they think? Let's just make Jack the hero again! Don't question it, even after he exploded a ****ing nuke just because he never wanted to meet Kate because love hurts.

3) It's the last season. They know it's the last season. It's been planned to be the last season since Season 3. So why, why, whhhhhyyyy are they still doing the same stupid stretch-out-the-mystery dialogue and plot games that sucked in Seasons 2 and 3 and made everyone go watch Heroes because they were actually doing **** like saving the cheerleader and saving the world. When all the reveals are being pushed back for later episodes and there's only a few more to go, that's just terrible writing and inability to leave that comfort zone that's been around so long.

4) Better explanation of the endgame. I don't want "The Force equals Midichlorians." No one wants that. But at least we knew what the **** The Force was, "an energy field created by all living things, that surrounds and penetrates living beings and binds the galaxy together." It's a universal energy of fate that some are tuned into more than others. We got that, it was enough, and everyone didn't want anymore from it. It was a cool concept.

Now what is The Light?

No, really, what the **** is it? "The Heart of The Island". Okay, then why's it so important? "Because the Island is special?" What makes it special? "The light." Why is the Light special? "Because it's the Heart of the Island." Like, I can get we can infer it's the good of all things and the cork separates heaven and hell and the darkness from seeping out into the world and causing global devastation, but we don't need to know what the chemical makeup of the light is. We just need to know why it needs to be protected and what would happen if it didn't and we would be fine. We never got that. Not once. And that's why it was so frustrating. "The light is good, the darkness is bad, the island is a cork that keeps the darkness from escaping and so we protect it." It's just some dumb explanations and writing, and really has nothing to do with the characters. It's just another button to press or nuke to blow up.

5) The outrigger. Yes, it's a tired plot point that has little to do with actual events. But it's still a big thing and a metaphor for how ****ty the show got with mysteries and letting things go. They were about a dozen scenes in the season where characters moved from one camp or island or place to another, at least half the time using outriggers. Any of those times they could have used it and been done with it and nobody would ever complain. Hell, Ilana getting shot by their past selves would've been 1000x better and cooler than the ****ing "Oh hey, remember Arzt? BLOWED UP!" and given her some last words. It could have devastating impact on the characters (momentarily because they'd all forget the next episode) because their past mistakes would've caused this event to happen and it carry a theme into future episodes. But no. She's drops the dynamite too hard and blows up. And she's never mentioned again. Everything, EVERYTHING, was put off way too long. Most answers we got towards the end were rushed and ****ty. "But that's how all answers are to you guys! You'll never be satisfied by the answers!" Bull****. We're unsatisfied by crappy five second explanations to mysteries that have gone on for five seasons (that don't really make sense putting everything together) because you guys pushed it back so many times you no longer had any room to devote even a sub-plot to answering it. Just a quick, brief, stupid scene.

The outrigger is also a mystery or plot point that's brought up but never explained or utilized. Lost loves this. What about how only a certain sword can kill Smokey and only if he's never talked to you? What about the sickness and how people are dead but not really dead? Why's Desmond so important if Jack can do the same damn thing? Whatever happened to Cindy and the kids?

I don't know. It's been a year and I'm still raging on Season 6.

Also: J.J. Abrams is totally not at fault. He stopped working with the show, as far as I know, at the opening episode for Season 3. Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have been at the helm of the show and responding to fans forever. Abrams gets a lot of undue flak, I think.

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For the record: I thought the flash-sideways, save for a few kinks, was actually very well-done. It's the on-Island plot I have major, major problems with.

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And they're in heaven together because of the nuke? Really?



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BoshStrikesBack posted...
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And they're in heaven together because of the nuke? Really?



*SPOILERS*

Well then what's the nuke's purpose? It happened because it happened and that's how they all came back to the present? That's almost as strong as some people landed in 1977 while some others in 2007 just because. Oh wait.

Maybe I should stop trying to figure out why things happened in the later seasons because they're just stupid anyway.

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6) Dogen.

What a miserable character that contributed absolutely nothing to the series.

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I agree with a large part of what Mana just said. The biggest problem for me is that Season 6 basically invalidated all the prior seasons with its metaphysical crap.

The writers could have come up with a very cool, time travel sci-fi ending of the show and instead they went for religion - nonsensical, dumb-looking religion at that. The glowing cave was dumb, Jacob and Smokey's mom was dumb, the cork was dumb, Jack becoming the new Jacob and having no clue what he was supposed to do was mindbogglingly dumb.

Why not simply have an alternate timeline created as a result of the Incident? Why not show us what the world would look like if Smokey actually escaped the Island? Why not have Season 6 be an epic struggle for the characters to restore the original timeline even if it means a good number of them who are alive in the alternate universe will die again if the original is restored? That seems like a pretty cool concept to me and one that involves a choice and a sacrifice at the end (Fate vs. Free Will, y'know). <_<

Oh, and after all the build-up, the "Adam and Eve" reveal was about as awful as anything the show put forth.

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From: FFDragon | Posted: 8/4/2011 1:30:45 PM | #020
6) Dogen.

What a miserable character that contributed absolutely nothing to the series.

Lennon was worse. <_<

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Lennon is an extension of Dogen.

That entire subplot was pointless.

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Well then what's the nuke's purpose? It happened because it happened and that's how they all came back to the present? That's almost as strong as some people landed in 1977 while some others in 2007 just because. Oh wait.

The nuke was a byproduct of WHH. it happened because it had always happened. There's also some great thematic stuff going on with it: for example, by detonating the bomb, Juliet ends up causing the very pregnancy problems she was sent to the Island to fix. Jack, by going along with the plan, ends up creating the Hatch that would later crash his plane.

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Dogen had one redeeming feature.

Jack practically forced an answer out of him with regards to what was wrogn with Sayid and what he wanted Jack to give him. It was the first time in a long time we'd been given a straight-up answer for why someone did something.

Too bad it wasn't the first of many.

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BoshStrikesBack posted...
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Well then what's the nuke's purpose? It happened because it happened and that's how they all came back to the present? That's almost as strong as some people landed in 1977 while some others in 2007 just because. Oh wait.

The nuke was a byproduct of WHH. it happened because it had always happened. There's also some great thematic stuff going on with it: for example, by detonating the bomb, Juliet ends up causing the very pregnancy problems she was sent to the Island to fix. Jack, by going along with the plan, ends up creating the Hatch that would later crash his plane.

Okay, yes, that part is awesome. I indeed forgot about the consequences of it that shaped their lives and allowed everything to happen the way it did.

But again, the motivation to do so is just so damn stupid. Jack wants to blow it up because he wants to forget he ever met Kate. And people go along with it. I don't care how wonderful the consequences of it are thematically when it's done just because they the writers need it to happen and they can't write a good reason why.

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That's LOST for you, Mega!

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Remember when Sayid/Sun/Jin all died in such quick and unsatisfying ways, and people were like "It's ok, they're still alive in the AU!"

Yeah...they literally threw away those characters we had spent hours getting to know.

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What the f*** is with this topic? I really don't get why people just decide to hate on the last season of this show, other than that "it's the last season and they didn't do exactly what I wanted". *sigh* People get so pissy over the littlest things. If you have to belittle a season of LOST, belittle Season 4 or 5. Those are the ones that weren't good. Season 6 brought the show BACK.

And it's just stupid to have been praising the show to death for the first five years and then all of a sudden start calling it "worst show ever" just because of elements of one season that you don't agree with, and I see that all over. People who were saying it was one of the best shows ever on network TV all of a sudden saying "I'm never recommending this show to anybody ever", that's just dumb. Apparently they changed the first few seasons so they suck now?

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I haven't watched Lost beyond season 2, but Abrams sounds a bit dumb here; it is not the job of the critic to provide a substitute for the failings of a piece of work.


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If you have to belittle a season of LOST, belittle Season 4 or 5. Those are the ones that weren't good. Season 6 brought the show BACK.

Literally the worst opinion in the history of humanity. Does it upset you that S6 was so universally ridiculed, by fans and critics alike? Don't be mad bro

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Jack wanted to set off the bomb, because he thought he could change everything. He still had lingering doubts about Destiny. He still believed that he could change -- that he could save the lives of everyone who died on Flight 815. Ana Lucia, Libby, Boone, Shannon, and all those nameless people who died.

The nuke is what starts to erase those last lingering doubts.

And I think Sun's development came as a result of the earlier seasons. Sun at the beginning and Sun at the End are practically different characters. In the beginning, Sun wants nothing more than to get away from her husband. That is her reason for getting on that plane. At the end -- she wants nothing more than to find her husband. It's a full swing. In fact, the reason she gets on the Ajira plane is to find her husband.

The two characters that were truly gypped imo were Claire and Sawyer. We never get to see them reunite with Aaron and Clementine respectively.

Season 6 brought the series back? Really? The temple subplot was a terrible waste of time, "Across the Sea" is quite possibly one of the worst episodes of LOST, and half the characters were swept off to the side and killed in unsatisfying ways.

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S6 in no way brings the series back to anything. No matter the way you define the series -- characters or mythology -- the show tanks itself at every available opportunity. Whereas S4 and S5 may have been the show slowly circling the drain, S6 is the show reaching the sewage treatment plant.

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I may or may not disagree with many of the excellent points here, but I'm only going to respond to KBM.


Really? For shows like LOST that depend on heavily on a storyline, if you have a terrible ending, that ruins the rest of the show. *maybe* if season 3 had been garbage level TV like season 6, but then the rest of the show, including the end, was good, then it'd be fine.

But a bad ending ruins the entire series, especially for a show like LOST.



sidenote:hoping the same thing doesn't happen to ASOIAF, given that the series seems to be losing a LOT OF FOCUS.

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S6 in no way brings the series back to anything. No matter the way you define the series -- characters or mythology -- the show tanks itself at every available opportunity.

I would like to go on record as saying that LA X, Ab Aeterno, and (especially) Happily Ever After are awesome. Otherwise, 100% agree with this post.

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But a bad ending ruins the entire series, especially for a show like LOST.

It's a good thing I don't feel this way or I'd think Battlestar Galactica was the worst series of all time. Now THAT was a bad ending.

But really, all, it just upsets me because I really liked the ending, and in topics like this people don't seem to realize that alternate opinions are valid and just belittle anybody who has them because THIS IS THE WAY IT IS, black and white, end of story. It's perfectly possible to love the ending of LOST, which I do. It's also perfectly valid to hate on it, I suppose, although I really don't understand the reasons why.

Here's the thing, though. It's the whole "statement of fact" thing that bothers me. In my opinion, a series where you loved five seasons and hated one is still a highly recommendable series (though I suppose I can feel your pain in that I don't necessarily recommend BSG to anybody, but I had other problems with that series than just the ending - and I still do recommend it from time to time). People act like the ending was objectively bad, which is just incorrect. It gave some of us exactly what we wanted from the series. I didn't care about the outrigger, I didn't care who was there before Jacob and Barry, and I certainly didn't care what the light did (yes, I thought the episode Across the Sea was horrendous, but in the two episodes afterwards I felt the concepts from it at least worked fine simply as plot devices). I cared about what happened to the characters, and I got a particularly moving answer to that question.

Now when I recommend LOST to people who haven't seen it I recommend it to them with this caveat: if you go in expecting a tightly-written, plot-driven series, expect to be sorely disappointed. Because I won't say it's "ALL ABOUT" the characters, but there's a difference between a character-driven show and a plot-driven show. In a character-driven show, it's about what's happening TO the characters, and in a plot-driven show, it's what's happening AROUND them that counts. I consider LOST a character-driven show, and thus, I was happy with the results, and particularly loved the sixth season. I loved the AU and the answer to what it was, and there were a couple of parts that were a BIT boring and roundabout (especially concerning the Temple), but that can be said about literally every season of the show.

Season 1 meandered a ton during its second half, especially after Ethan was killed
Season 2 had nine episodes of walking across the Island and Hatch aftermath.
Season 3 (my favorite season) had the Hydra Island arc and SiaSL, the worst episode of the series.
Season 4 had about half its episodes suck.
Season 5 had some of the most roundabout "because it has to happen that way" plotting I've seen since the last season of BSG.

So I guess what I don't understand is why it's so different. This is a flawed, but in many ways beautiful show we're talking about here, and though I wouldn't call it one of my favorites of all time (certainly not on the level of, say, Babylon 5 or The Sopranos), it was a ride I'll never forget, and one that I'll be sure to revisit in the future.

Sorry for the huge wall, but I guess I wanted to show that I wasn't just talking out of my ass here.

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So glad that I watch good shows like Scrubs instead of LOST.

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ExThaNemesis posted...
So glad that I watch good shows like Scrubs instead of LOST.

Since that's such a sensical substitute

I remember arguing with you last year, you like to hate on the show even though you've never seen it.

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ExThaNemesis posted...
So glad that I watch good shows like Scrubs instead of LOST.

because you can't watch multiple shows now

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SiaSL, the worst episode of the series.

Forget about Across the Sea? Looks like someone's been...

*sunglasses*

...blinded by the Light.

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From: ExThaNemesis | #039
So glad that I watch good shows like Scrubs instead of LOST.

Yep, fan reaction to the last season of Scrubs is much better those to Lost.


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Ending of BSG >>>>>>>>> Ending of Lost

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At least the end of BSG treated its characters with respect and gave us a somewhat happy ending.

And I also liked the fact that the writers did really tell us the truth as the show went along. Everything Head Six and Head Baltar whispered into their significant others' ears was true. As the show went along and they kept saying "God has plans for you" you kinda shrugged it off as a metaphor or hyperbole. But it was the literal truth that they had been saying all along.

Lost wasn't honest with its viewers. Most of the mysteries and subplots of the how were swept under the metaphysical rug during the last season. That's why I dislike the ending as much as I do and why I don't really recommend the show to anyone anymore. I could say "Well, the first five seasons are terrific, but you'll be disappointed in the ending" - but then why spend all that time just to be disappointed. I'm not going to recommend a show to someone that requires a large time commitment to watch, just to have them be angry with me after they watch the ending. <_<

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Treated its characters with respect? Are you out of your mind? "So whatcha gonna do now Lee?" "Oh I think I'll explore this world care to come with.. me...Kara?"


WORST ENDING EVER, good lord. I like BSG but that ending was simply atrocious, and I loved the ending of Lost. What else explanation needed there to be? The dead guys are dead, the rest of the group lives happily ever after(Sawyer even became a professional paintballplayer) so yeah. I love the sixth season and do not get the hatred at all.

I loved the Sopranos ending. I liked LOST's ending a lot. I liked BSG's ending too.


And I've watched lots of shows so SOMEHOW I'M CREDIBLE RIGHT

oh wait no OPINIONS

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From: the icon ownz all | #044
Yep, fan reaction to the last season of Scrubs is much better those to Lost.

spinoffspinoffspinoff

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spoilers for L O S T


The idea that those guys were all lured to the island, and the island is a "cork"... pretty neat. They just spent way too f'ing long establishing that stuff.

The flash sideways also needed to be in jeopardy due to the island activities. As it stood, there wasn't much to worry about on the island, mysteries weren't handled well, and sending everyone to Heaven felt a bit cheap. Touching, but cheap. The final season should have quickly put things in order and then created conflict, instead of trying to stay mysterious and then slop on a little conflict at the end.

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Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter?
Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards.

I loved the Sopranos ending. I liked LOST's ending a lot. I liked BSG's ending too.


And I've watched lots of shows so SOMEHOW I'M CREDIBLE RIGHT

oh wait no OPINIONS

Really now? Everyone has opinions, but some opinions are better-supported than others. For example, the claim that "The writing, the direction the mythology took, the lulled pace and lack of character motivation, and shameless stall tactics of Season 6 really hurt the show" is a lot better than "S6 rules lol".

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~Pinkie Pie is the best pony~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBpfwpOPXNc&NR=1&feature=fvwp