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Zachnorn 08/06/11 10:04:00 PM #1: |
Original wording: The Hacking is Sony's fault for not taking better care of their users' information
This AoD is brought to you by Vlado, Ulti, GenesisSaga, and possibly others that nominated it before I began logging nominators. 982 Results: The best Pokemon protagonist design is Red Agree: 20 Disagree: 21 My view: Disagree. It seems to me that Sony was attacked for some other purpose, possibly for the lulz. Rules: 1. Nominations must be open to debate. Use words like best, worst, or a variant thereof sparingly. 2. You are allowed to just agree or disagree without discussing the topic, but discussion of said topic is not only welcomed, it's allowed. 3. No alts, no flaming, no rallying, and no trolling. 4. You can nominate up to three different nominations every day. You cannot use them on one twice/three times in one day, and you can only nominate something once. 4a. You can also denominate a potential topic at any of the nomination levels. Denominations use up two regular nominations however, and afterword you can only nominate one item. Also, if you are denoming an item at five, please give a reason as to why. And no, "it is bad" won't work. If the item is denommed at 5, it must be renommed within 3 AoD topics or it will lose its scheduled date. 5. In long posts (IE: over a paragraph) Please bold/do something to your vote so I can pick it out. Remember: that I can (and will) remove anything I deem worthless, useless, pointless, stupid, or too silly. Previous Results: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Agree_or_Disagree Full nomination list: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19449924/AoD/AoDnoms.txt -- Zachnorn Everything = overrated. http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4503/qrcode857546.th.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zachnorn 08/06/11 10:04:00 PM #2: |
Showing 41 noms out of 85 total. (48%)
Five The Hacking is Sony's fault for not taking better care of their users' information (Nom: Vlado, Ulti, GenesisSaga) - 983 1994 was the best year of gaming in the '90s. (Nom: Ulti, LMS, Doma) - 984 If Valve would release Steam sales numbers, it would end the "PC gaming is dying" debate. (Nom: SSpectre, DomaDragoon, Ulti, LMS, Ultima) - 985 Some poor selling games should get sequels (Nom: crazyisgood, Doma, Ulti, LMS, Ultima) - 986 Death row inmates should have the right to be organ donors. (Nom: GenesisSaga, Doma, Ulti, Ultima, Kazbar) - 987 +12 more... Four Superman would beat Batman in a no-holds-barred fight even with preparation (Nom: Anagram, Doma, Ulti, Natwaf) Cheating authority is ok, but cheating equals is not. (Nom: Colgreen, Ulti, pae, Doma) "The Internet" only hates Family Guy because South Park told them to (Nom: Menji, Ulti, pae) Samus' personality in Other M is underrated. (Nom: Ulti, LMS) when searching for games on Gamefaqs, having to browse through pages for a certain letter for a certain console is stupid. (Nom: Doma, Ulti) +2 more... Three None of your personal top 10 games of all time have ever been on a Sega console. (Nom: Doma, pae, Ulti) Sesame Street spoiler. Full nomination: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/19449924/AoD/spoiler.txt (Nom: Gerbil, RayDyn, Doma, Ulti) (Denom: Wazzup) The game that you considered to be your favorite 5 years ago is still your favorite. (Nom: DomaDragoon, Ulti, Kazbar) Competitive Mario Party Tournaments would be hilarious (Nom: Gerbil, Ulti, Bosco) No matter what current-gen system it was announced for, a 3rd Chrono game would outsell DQX in North America. (Nom: Doma, Ulti, Jeff Zero) 2007 was one of the best years of gaming ever. (Nom: LMS, Doma, Ulti) Tom Hanks is the GOAT actor. (Nom: Pondos, Doma, Ulti) Nonsensical nominations such as "Apples > Jet Engines" have no point (Nom: Ulti) Ethics are not always morally right (Nom: crazyisgood, DYL, Ulti) The Office (UK) > The Office (US) (Nom: Ulti) The refresh button in browsers should always be at the left of the screen, not the right. (Noms: DomaDragoon, Ulti) The advent of home consoles was the greatest milestone in the gaming industry. (Nom: LMS, Doma, Ulti) Warcraft 3 is better than either Starcraft game. (Nom: OmarsComin, Doma, Ulti) Rocket Power was a good cartoon show (Nom: Ulti) Liz Lemon is the worst character on 30 Rock (Nom: Bosco, Ulti) +5 more... Two You have agreed with the results of a majority of the first 1000 AoDs (Nom: Doma, Ulti) The events in Shaun of the Dead are more or less how a real zombie apocalypse would play out. (Nom: YAS, Ulti) Comic Book characters need to age (Nom: crazyisgood, Ulti) In your opinion, you've already lived the best years of your life (Nom: Kazbar, Ulti) Soft pretzels > hard pretzels (Nom: Kazbar, Ulti) America will have another Black President before it has a Female President (Nom: VeryInsane, Ulti) Phineas & Ferb > My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic (Nom: Natwaf_akidna, Ulti) People who combo breaker should be banned from the internet (Nom: Shados, Ulti) Sirloin Steak > Filet Mignon Smell > Taste (Nom: pae, Ulti) No movie based on a TV series has ever been better than the best episode of that series. (Nom: Doma, Ulti) Melee is the best Smash Bros. game. (Nom: LMS, 521) The Sonic Roller is the most annoying enemy in any Sega Genesis Sonic the Hedgehog games. (Nom: Ulti) +25 more... One Dragon Quest VIII is the only amazing game in the series (Nom: Real Truth, Ulti) (Denom: Mortamor) The StarCraft series did not deserve to get to the finals in G4's contest. (Nom: LMS) Resident Evil 4 was the best GameCube game. (Nom: LMS) -- Zachnorn Everything = overrated. http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4503/qrcode857546.th.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 08/06/11 10:05:00 PM #3: |
...no, it's the hacker's fault for digging into it. sony was just stupid.
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Inviso 08/06/11 10:05:00 PM #4: |
Agree.
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ZFS 08/06/11 10:06:00 PM #5: |
Disagree.
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WazzupGenius00 08/06/11 10:08:00 PM #6: |
Hmm.
While I think Sony is partially to blame, obviously the main portion of the fault lies with the attackers. I think this means I disagree? -- (10:17:09 PM) Ed Bellis: i think pac-man just keeps repeating, for instance (10:17:26 PM) ertyu: ya well tell that to billy michtlle ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LOLContests 08/06/11 10:09:00 PM #7: |
Disagree
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Dauntless Hunter 08/06/11 10:10:00 PM #8: |
Agree.
While obviously the hackers were the ones ultimately to blame for what happened, from what I understand, Sony was irresponsible in safeguarding users' information. It's like if someone robbed a bank, but then you found out the bank routinely left everything unlocked. Yes, the robbers are the criminals, but the bank's irresponsibility facilitated the theft. -- Black Turtle spilled my diet soda! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PrinceKaro 08/06/11 10:11:00 PM #9: |
Agree.
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Emporer_Kazbar 08/06/11 10:12:00 PM #10: |
Agree
It was to be expected if THAT was the best security they could put up. -- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09) Yes, I know I'm never getting rid of this signature ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bigwig_rah 08/06/11 10:14:00 PM #11: |
Disagree
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CommodoreTN 08/06/11 10:18:00 PM #12: |
Agree
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Emporer_Kazbar 08/06/11 11:42:00 PM #13: |
Oh, almost forgot:
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Chrono1219 08/06/11 11:46:00 PM #14: |
Uhh
Based on the wording I'd have to say Agree. if it was all of Sony's fault, or even mostly, I'd disagree. But to say it didn't have a small portion to do with it is foolish. -- Chrono1219 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biolizard28 08/06/11 11:48:00 PM #15: |
Disagree.
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Shoenin_Kakashi 08/06/11 11:57:00 PM #16: |
Sony was really asking for it
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BoshStrikesBack 08/06/11 11:58:00 PM #17: |
The phrasing of the question is poor, but on balance, agree.
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foolmor0n 08/07/11 12:01:00 AM #18: |
Depends how you define fault. The way I see it, it was both Sony and the hackers' fault, because they were both responsible for the events that took place.
Another way to see it is that if the hackers didn't attempt to hack in the first place, there would have been no problem, therefore it is only the hackers' fault. -- _foolmo_ 'Illegal activities is a slight misnomer, most of it is not related to material that is actually illegal.' - nintendogrl1 (Mod) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 08/07/11 12:03:00 AM #19: |
From: Dauntless Hunter | Posted: 8/7/2011 1:10:21 AM | #008 perfectly said Agree -- SegMlCassieIsAmazingjhsux~>[64T2jampXDpikaness is awesome!8forgaMike RSmurf is too! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bryans7 08/07/11 12:07:00 AM #20: |
Disagree, Sony should have done a better job at keeping the system secure but it's not their fault they were targeted.
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Kotetsu534 08/07/11 12:08:00 AM #21: |
Partly their fault. Don't know if that means I agree or disagree.
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resistance_pro 08/07/11 12:16:00 AM #22: |
If a hacker or a group of hackers put their mind to getting something they will get it; however from what I understand Sony made it rather easy for hackers;
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StealThisSheen 08/07/11 12:52:00 AM #23: |
Agree. -- SEP Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! http://img.imgcake.com/stevenashgifpu.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Azp2k32 08/07/11 12:53:00 AM #24: |
A
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Ultimaphazon 08/07/11 12:56:00 AM #25: |
Sony is partially to blame, but the main culprits are obviously the hackers. I guess that means agree.
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Pram_the_Oracle 08/07/11 2:43:00 AM #26: |
Partially to blame yes. Completely, hell no.
Agree on a technicality, I suppose. -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge! NEXT TIME! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Djungelurban 08/07/11 2:45:00 AM #27: |
D
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red13n 08/07/11 2:51:00 AM #28: |
Agree.
You cant say "not their fault for getting targeted". -everyone- gets targeted. It is their fault that their security sucked. -- "First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dowolf 08/07/11 7:40:00 AM #30: |
D
This is like saying that women who get beaten by boyfriends/husbands were "asking for it". Granted, Sony could have had much better security slash used a proper random number generator. But... yeah. -- Oh, a big machine with flashy lights. A big machine like that has me written all over it. Well, okay, it doesn't. But give me time... and a crayon --11th Doctor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cloud and Squall 08/07/11 7:43:00 AM #31: |
Disagree
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The Utility Man 08/07/11 7:45:00 AM #32: |
Agree
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GenesisSaga 08/07/11 7:50:00 AM #33: |
Dauntless Hunter posted...
Agree. While obviously the hackers were the ones ultimately to blame for what happened, from what I understand, Sony was irresponsible in safeguarding users' information. It's like if someone robbed a bank, but then you found out the bank routinely left everything unlocked. Yes, the robbers are the criminals, but the bank's irresponsibility facilitated the theft. This. Well-said. Agree -- Courtesy of fr0q: http://img.imgcake.com/gencardjpgha.jpg Courtesy of Pun: http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/4738/genesissaga.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dauntless Hunter 08/07/11 7:52:00 AM #34: |
From: dowolf | #030 It's really offensive that you would equate victims of domestic violence with irresponsible corporations. Sony is NOT the victim in the hacking situation. The people whose information was stolen are. If you want to make a domestic violence comparison here, it's like the hackers are the abusive husband, the users are the battered wife, and Sony is the police officer who was supposed to be keeping an eye on her but got drunk and fell asleep. -- Black Turtle spilled my diet soda! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GenesisSaga 08/07/11 9:23:00 PM #36: |
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LeonhartFour 08/07/11 10:17:00 PM #37: |
Disagree.
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the icon ownz all 08/07/11 10:19:00 PM #38: |
Disagree
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paperwarior 08/07/11 10:27:00 PM #39: |
I don't feel like we have enough info to judge this. On one hand Anonymous is generally thought of as script kiddies, but on the other hand Sony may have just had bad luck in choosing a security team rather than, say, hiring the cheapest one available.
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Natwaf_akidna 08/07/11 10:28:00 PM #40: |
Well it's not like we have to make a perfectly informed opinion.
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SpeedYoshi 08/07/11 10:55:00 PM #41: |
From: resistance_pro | #022 this is... not true i agree -- Don't worry guys, I have all the clubs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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paperwarior 08/07/11 10:57:00 PM #42: |
this is... not true
Yeah. Take unlicensed code on, well, the PS3. It took them ages to find a workaround. Maybe it's possible given enough time, but that's basically just the infinite monkeys on typewriters effect. -- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punch_Sideiron 08/07/11 11:36:00 PM #43: |
Disagree.
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Vlado 08/08/11 12:15:00 AM #44: |
DUH.
Agree. -- If you like Blitzball, try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! Top games: http://unikgamer.com/users/vlado-309.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrsFrisby 08/08/11 12:34:00 AM #45: |
Agree.
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MarvelousGerbil 08/08/11 12:51:00 PM #46: |
Disagree. They should get some of the blame, but saying it's their "fault" is silly.
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jck4332 08/08/11 12:57:00 PM #47: |
Disagree.
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KCF0107 08/09/11 9:35:00 AM #48: |
Disagree
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whatisurnameplz 08/09/11 9:47:00 AM #49: |
Agree.
Like someone said earlier, if your security system is bad enough to allow something of this magnitude, it's your fault. edit: Nominate: Smell > Taste (Nom: pae, Ulti) -- Give up some love for the Guru! Ladies and gentleman, the Incredible Black Turtle! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tyder21 08/09/11 10:07:00 AM #50: |
Agree.
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