Board 8 > Study shows spoilers without warning should not be moddable.

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http://bodyodd.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/08/10/7334977-spoiler-alert-spoilers-dont-ruin-stories-after-all?gt1=43001

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I disagree

I was reading the book "A Talent for War" and halfway through I read the back cover. The spoiler on it drastically reduced my enjoyment of the rest of the book. I was pissed.

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Spoilers for JZ's Exceptional Taste series

Xenogears wins the "best game" category.

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Quality Article.

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Spoilers, Leavitt suggests, "may allow readers to organize developments in the story, anticipate the implications of events, and resolve ambiguities that occur in the course of reading."

That's what makes the second viewing/reading enjoyable.

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...That's what I thought too. >_>

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From: muddersmilk | #005
Spoilers, Leavitt suggests, "may allow readers to organize developments in the story, anticipate the implications of events, and resolve ambiguities that occur in the course of reading."

That's what makes the second viewing/reading enjoyable.

Yeah, that's my thought. The first time you go through you get the surprise. The second time you get to appreciate the craftsmanship of the story where you see all the indications.

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So yeah, watching while knowing is enjoyable, but spoilers still ruin part of the experience.

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The article misquotes Vader

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Ehh, while I don't care about spoilers, I still wouldn't say it to people.

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You know thinking on it, a lot of people initially react negatively to big twists. They say "that's stupid" or "that came out of nowhere" when it really didn't come out of nowhere. Those people usually eventually come around on it (See: LOST season 3 finale).

I'm not one of those people and I enjoy twists, so I don't agree with the TC.

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From: Paulkotsu | #009
The article misquotes Vader

Everyone misquotes Vader ;_;

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aren't you the TC?

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you people are spoiling the article for me ;_;

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From: muddersmilk | #005
Spoilers, Leavitt suggests, "may allow readers to organize developments in the story, anticipate the implications of events, and resolve ambiguities that occur in the course of reading."

That's what makes the second viewing/reading enjoyable.

Came in to say this

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Spoilers almost certainly ruined Fight Club for me. I didn't really enjoy that movie at all.

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Bull***. That's not how stories work.

The point of foreshadowing is to be remembered after the payoff, so you think "Ah, so that's what was going on". Catching foreshadowing you missed on a second reading is satisfying too, but that doesn't make the initial moment of realisation irrelevant.

I've greatly enjoyed stories I've had spoiled, but every time that happens I still think "I wish I'd had the chance to be surprised by that".

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I'm not one of those people and I enjoy twists, so I don't agree with the TC.



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30 undergraduate students at a state school in california does not make a good sample.

Personally, I find the way people in the soft sciences do mathematics to be suspicious already.

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Should have used Gene Wolfe short stories.

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no

there was this girl who sat at my lunch table in high school and she ALWAYS spoiled movies and stuff. "oh you plan on seeing this movie this weekend? don't bother, this guy dies at the end"

**** i hated that girl

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In my experience, I have to say that finding out about the ending to a story before you get to it, definitely changes your overall experience of said story. It reduces the effect of any surprises, and any other effects the story was originally intended to have on you are dulled.

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From: RyokIes | #021
no

there was this girl who sat at my lunch table in high school and she ALWAYS spoiled movies and stuff. "oh you plan on seeing this movie this weekend? don't bother, this guy dies at the end"

**** i hated that girl

Ryoko

you're hardcore, right

you should have just punched her, you know?

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From: Paulkotsu | #009
The article misquotes Vader
Everyone misquotes Vader ;_;

Yes, strange as it seems, that is almost always the case. Guess it makes more sense taken out of context, though.

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but i punched a hole in a car once and i would break her in half

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Dude

Sample size of 30, White, educated and rich undergrads.

Why are we giving this credence when a good portion of psychology studies are unreplicatable?

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From: RyokIes | #025
but i punched a hole in a car once and i would break her in half

oh okay

you're hardcore then

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I don't even need to read the article to realize they don't know what they're talking about. It does in fact ruin the story, because it alters the way you look at the movie. Any viewing or prior knowledge of the story that you're about to read/view will alter the way you perceive the piece of work.

For a great example of this, you really don't need to look any further than Shutter Island, with Leonardo Decaprio. It's the most revealing trailer of all time. I could predict what was going to happen. The Sixth sense? How would that have been if you knew what was going to happen prior to it happening? You instead start to focus on "how" and "when" did they give clues and foreshadowing as to what would actually happen, and you end up missing out on other aspects of the movie.

There's no point in studying the subject and to say otherwise is asinine.

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Also to point out, they only compared 1) Short stories 2) Only stuff that you read 3) A particular type of spoiler dependent story 4) They only evaluated how much they preferred it moments after they finished reading it 5) They didn't compare it to rereading the same story after reading it the first time.

Not to say that it isn't possible that I can enjoy stories with the ending spoiled, but the study already has a bunch of holes in it. I'd need to see a replication and some way to control for the above factors before it approaches anywhere near what the realworld experience of spoilers are.

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It does in fact ruin the story

Let's all ignore science because The Real Truth disagrees with it.

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I had Book of Eli spoiled for me and, although I did still enjoy it, I'm still annoyed I didn't get to experience that realisation moment when you find out.

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dumb article

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