[LFQ-8] NCAA Games II: Day 84 (Feat. #6 Mario 3 vs. #17 FFVI, #21 FFVII vs. MGS4)

Board 8 > NCAA Games II: Day 84 (Feat. #6 Mario 3 vs. #17 FFVI, #21 FFVII vs. MGS4)

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LeonhartFour 08/22/11 8:40:00 AM #51:	MK2 and SSFIV! -- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:238708] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite> <quote> MK2 and SSFIV! -- "So cold. I am always by your side.""There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
th3l3fty 08/22/11 10:18:00 AM #52:	Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference) Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference) Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference) #6 Super Mario Bros. 3 (Tanooki Blitzball Conference) Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (Smackdown Hotel Conference) Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Patriot Time Portals Conference) Donkey Kong Country (Zelda Overload Conference) Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference) Battletoads (Brawl for Broke Conference) Team Fortress 2 (Brawl for Broke Conference) Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Brawl for Broke Conference) Professor Layton and the Unwound Future (Brawl for Broke Conference) Suikoden III (Fanservice Conference) -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris <cite>th3l3fty posted [p:238709] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite> <quote> Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference)Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference)Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference)#6 Super Mario Bros. 3 (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (Smackdown Hotel Conference)Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Patriot Time Portals Conference)Donkey Kong Country (Zelda Overload Conference)Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference)Battletoads (Brawl for Broke Conference)Team Fortress 2 (Brawl for Broke Conference)Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Brawl for Broke Conference)Professor Layton and the Unwound Future (Brawl for Broke Conference)Suikoden III (Fanservice Conference) -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -trannyI have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
swirIdude 08/22/11 12:12:00 PM #53:	!!@!@ -- If you are reading this signature, then you are wasting a great deal of your time. <cite>swirIdude posted [p:238710] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite> <quote> !!@!@ -- If you are reading this signature, then you are wasting a great deal of your time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TsunamiXXVIII 08/22/11 12:45:00 PM #54:	LOL, completely disappeared this weekend, musta lost track of when things were because I could've sworn we'd be voting for top 25 by now. Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference) Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference) abstain #6 Super Mario Bros. 3 (Tanooki Blitzball Conference) Chrono Cross (Sonic Overload Conference) abstain Sonic Adventure 2 (Sonic Overload Conference) Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference) Star Fox 64 (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference) abstain Animal Crossing (Tanooki Blitzball Conference) Mega Man Legends (Metroid Eater Conference) abstain -- Ulti (in one of his Post-Contest Analyses): God of War turned a 5 hour deadlock into a total laugher Anagram: Oh God, Tidus and Yuna were involved? <cite>TsunamiXXVIII posted [p:238711] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite> <quote> LOL, completely disappeared this weekend, musta lost track of when things were because I could've sworn we'd be voting for top 25 by now.Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference)Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference)abstain#6 Super Mario Bros. 3 (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)Chrono Cross (Sonic Overload Conference)abstainSonic Adventure 2 (Sonic Overload Conference)Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference)Star Fox 64 (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)abstainAnimal Crossing (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)Mega Man Legends (Metroid Eater Conference)abstain -- Ulti (in one of his Post-Contest Analyses): God of War turned a 5 hour deadlock into a total laugherAnagram: Oh God, Tidus and Yuna were involved? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
th3l3fty 08/22/11 2:04:00 PM #55:	still a few minutes...! -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris <cite>th3l3fty posted [p:238712] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite> <quote> still a few minutes...! -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -trannyI have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TsunamiXXVIII 08/22/11 3:48:00 PM #56:	Huh. Didn't expect mine to be the last vote. -- Ulti (in one of his Post-Contest Analyses): God of War turned a 5 hour deadlock into a total laugher Anagram: Oh God, Tidus and Yuna were involved? <cite>TsunamiXXVIII posted [p:238713] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite> <quote> Huh. Didn't expect mine to be the last vote. -- Ulti (in one of his Post-Contest Analyses): God of War turned a 5 hour deadlock into a total laugherAnagram: Oh God, Tidus and Yuna were involved? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 08/22/11 5:14:00 PM #57:	Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference) Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference) Brave Fencer Musashi (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) #17 Final Fantasy VI (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference) Chrono Cross (Sonic Overload Conference) #21 Final Fantasy VII (Fanservice Conference) Donkey Kong Country (Zelda Overload Conference) Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference) Star Fox 64 (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference) Mega Man 9 (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference) Animal Crossing (Tanooki Blitzball Conference) Mega Man Legends (Metroid Eater Conference) Suikoden III (Fanservice Conference) -- 90s games > 00s games <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:238714] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite> <quote> Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference)Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference)Brave Fencer Musashi (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)#17 Final Fantasy VI (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)Chrono Cross (Sonic Overload Conference)#21 Final Fantasy VII (Fanservice Conference)Donkey Kong Country (Zelda Overload Conference)Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference)Star Fox 64 (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)Mega Man 9 (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)Animal Crossing (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)Mega Man Legends (Metroid Eater Conference)Suikoden III (Fanservice Conference) -- 90s games > 00s games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 08/22/11 5:15:00 PM #58:	Darn it, would have been just in time if my Gamefaqs time wasn't still on Eastern time instead of Pacific like I thought. -- 90s games > 00s games <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:238715] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite> <quote> Darn it, would have been just in time if my Gamefaqs time wasn't still on Eastern time instead of Pacific like I thought. -- 90s games > 00s games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
linkhatesganon 08/22/11 5:30:00 PM #59:	Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference) Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference) Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference) #17 Final Fantasy VI (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference) Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (Smackdown Hotel Conference) #21 Final Fantasy VII (Fanservice Conference) Donkey Kong Country (Zelda Overload Conference) Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference) - - Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Brawl for Broke Conference) Professor Layton and the Unwound Future (Brawl for Broke Conference) - -- Dr Football > Dr Soccer <cite>linkhatesganon posted [p:238716] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite> <quote> Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference)Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference)Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference)#17 Final Fantasy VI (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (Smackdown Hotel Conference)#21 Final Fantasy VII (Fanservice Conference)Donkey Kong Country (Zelda Overload Conference)Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference)--Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Brawl for Broke Conference)Professor Layton and the Unwound Future (Brawl for Broke Conference)- -- Dr Football > Dr Soccer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Articuno2001 08/22/11 5:38:00 PM #60:	Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference) abstain abstain abstain #17 Final Fantasy VI (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference) Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (Smackdown Hotel Conference) #21 Final Fantasy VII (Fanservice Conference) Sonic Adventure 2 (Sonic Overload Conference) abstain abstain Team Fortress 2 (Brawl for Broke Conference) Animal Crossing (Tanooki Blitzball Conference) Professor Layton and the Unwound Future (Brawl for Broke Conference) abstain -- 2010 Game of the Decade Contest - some guy named Black Turtle won the guru for this http://backloggery.com/articuno2001/sig.gif <cite>Articuno2001 posted [p:238717] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite> <quote> Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)abstainabstainabstain#17 Final Fantasy VI (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (Smackdown Hotel Conference)#21 Final Fantasy VII (Fanservice Conference)Sonic Adventure 2 (Sonic Overload Conference)abstainabstainTeam Fortress 2 (Brawl for Broke Conference)Animal Crossing (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)Professor Layton and the Unwound Future (Brawl for Broke Conference)abstain -- 2010 Game of the Decade Contest - some guy named Black Turtle won the guru for thishttp://backloggery.com/articuno2001/sig.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour
08/22/11 8:40:00 AM
#51:

MK2 and SSFIV!

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"So cold. I am always by your side."
"There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!"

<cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:238708] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite>
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        MK2 and SSFIV!
        
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            "So cold. I am always by your side.""There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!"

        
    
    
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th3l3fty
08/22/11 10:18:00 AM
#52:

Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference)
Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference)
Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference)
#6 Super Mario Bros. 3 (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (Smackdown Hotel Conference)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Patriot Time Portals Conference)
Donkey Kong Country (Zelda Overload Conference)
Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference)
Battletoads (Brawl for Broke Conference)
Team Fortress 2 (Brawl for Broke Conference)
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Brawl for Broke Conference)
Professor Layton and the Unwound Future (Brawl for Broke Conference)
Suikoden III (Fanservice Conference)

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thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny
I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris

<cite>th3l3fty posted [p:238709] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite>
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        Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference)Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference)Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference)#6 Super Mario Bros. 3 (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (Smackdown Hotel Conference)Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (Patriot Time Portals Conference)Donkey Kong Country (Zelda Overload Conference)Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference)Battletoads (Brawl for Broke Conference)Team Fortress 2 (Brawl for Broke Conference)Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Brawl for Broke Conference)Professor Layton and the Unwound Future (Brawl for Broke Conference)Suikoden III (Fanservice Conference)
        
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            thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -trannyI have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris

        
    
    
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swirIdude
08/22/11 12:12:00 PM
#53:

!!@!@

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If you are reading this signature, then you are wasting a great deal of your time.

<cite>swirIdude posted [p:238710] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite>
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        !!@!@
        
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            If you are reading this signature, then you are wasting a great deal of your time.

        
    
    
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TsunamiXXVIII
08/22/11 12:45:00 PM
#54:

LOL, completely disappeared this weekend, musta lost track of when things were because I could've sworn we'd be voting for top 25 by now.

Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference)
Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference)
abstain
#6 Super Mario Bros. 3 (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)
Chrono Cross (Sonic Overload Conference)
abstain
Sonic Adventure 2 (Sonic Overload Conference)
Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference)
Star Fox 64 (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)
abstain
Animal Crossing (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)
Mega Man Legends (Metroid Eater Conference)
abstain

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Ulti (in one of his Post-Contest Analyses): God of War turned a 5 hour deadlock into a total laugher
Anagram: Oh God, Tidus and Yuna were involved?

<cite>TsunamiXXVIII posted [p:238711] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite>
<quote>
        LOL, completely disappeared this weekend, musta lost track of when things were because I could've sworn we'd be voting for top 25 by now.Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference)Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference)abstain#6 Super Mario Bros. 3 (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)Chrono Cross (Sonic Overload Conference)abstainSonic Adventure 2 (Sonic Overload Conference)Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference)Star Fox 64 (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)abstainAnimal Crossing (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)Mega Man Legends (Metroid Eater Conference)abstain
        
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            Ulti (in one of his Post-Contest Analyses): God of War turned a 5 hour deadlock into a total laugherAnagram: Oh God, Tidus and Yuna were involved?

        
    
    
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th3l3fty
08/22/11 2:04:00 PM
#55:

still a few minutes...!

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thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny
I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris

<cite>th3l3fty posted [p:238712] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite>
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        still a few minutes...!
        
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            thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -trannyI have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris

        
    
    
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TsunamiXXVIII
08/22/11 3:48:00 PM
#56:

Huh. Didn't expect mine to be the last vote.

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Ulti (in one of his Post-Contest Analyses): God of War turned a 5 hour deadlock into a total laugher
Anagram: Oh God, Tidus and Yuna were involved?

<cite>TsunamiXXVIII posted [p:238713] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite>
<quote>
        Huh. Didn't expect mine to be the last vote.
        
            --
            Ulti (in one of his Post-Contest Analyses): God of War turned a 5 hour deadlock into a total laugherAnagram: Oh God, Tidus and Yuna were involved?

        
    
    
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red sox 777
08/22/11 5:14:00 PM
#57:

Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference)
Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference)
Brave Fencer Musashi (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)
#17 Final Fantasy VI (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)
Chrono Cross (Sonic Overload Conference)
#21 Final Fantasy VII (Fanservice Conference)
Donkey Kong Country (Zelda Overload Conference)
Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference)
Star Fox 64 (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)
Mega Man 9 (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)
Animal Crossing (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)
Mega Man Legends (Metroid Eater Conference)
Suikoden III (Fanservice Conference)

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90s games > 00s games

<cite>red sox 777 posted [p:238714] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite>
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        Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference)Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference)Brave Fencer Musashi (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)#17 Final Fantasy VI (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)Chrono Cross (Sonic Overload Conference)#21 Final Fantasy VII (Fanservice Conference)Donkey Kong Country (Zelda Overload Conference)Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference)Star Fox 64 (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)Mega Man 9 (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)Animal Crossing (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)Mega Man Legends (Metroid Eater Conference)Suikoden III (Fanservice Conference)
        
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            90s games > 00s games

        
    
    
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red sox 777
08/22/11 5:15:00 PM
#58:

Darn it, would have been just in time if my Gamefaqs time wasn't still on Eastern time instead of Pacific like I thought.

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90s games > 00s games

<cite>red sox 777 posted [p:238715] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite>
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        Darn it, would have been just in time if my Gamefaqs time wasn't still on Eastern time instead of Pacific like I thought.
        
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            90s games > 00s games

        
    
    
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linkhatesganon
08/22/11 5:30:00 PM
#59:

Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference)
Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference)
Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference)
#17 Final Fantasy VI (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (Smackdown Hotel Conference)
#21 Final Fantasy VII (Fanservice Conference)
Donkey Kong Country (Zelda Overload Conference)
Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference)
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Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Brawl for Broke Conference)
Professor Layton and the Unwound Future (Brawl for Broke Conference)
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Dr Football > Dr Soccer

<cite>linkhatesganon posted [p:238716] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite>
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        Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Fanservice Conference)Demon's Souls (Zelda Overload Conference)Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening (Thousand-Year World of Sunshine Conference)#17 Final Fantasy VI (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (Smackdown Hotel Conference)#21 Final Fantasy VII (Fanservice Conference)Donkey Kong Country (Zelda Overload Conference)Viewtiful Joe (Brawl for Broke Conference)--Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (Brawl for Broke Conference)Professor Layton and the Unwound Future (Brawl for Broke Conference)-
        
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            Dr Football > Dr Soccer

        
    
    
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Articuno2001
08/22/11 5:38:00 PM
#60:

Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)
abstain
abstain
abstain
#17 Final Fantasy VI (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)
Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (Smackdown Hotel Conference)
#21 Final Fantasy VII (Fanservice Conference)
Sonic Adventure 2 (Sonic Overload Conference)
abstain
abstain
Team Fortress 2 (Brawl for Broke Conference)
Animal Crossing (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)
Professor Layton and the Unwound Future (Brawl for Broke Conference)
abstain

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2010 Game of the Decade Contest - some guy named Black Turtle won the guru for this
http://backloggery.com/articuno2001/sig.gif

<cite>Articuno2001 posted [p:238717] in NCAA Games... [t:60092318]...</cite>
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        Dragon Quest V: Hand of the Heavenly Bride (Cult RPG Galaxy Conference)abstainabstainabstain#17 Final Fantasy VI (Twilight Barrel Galaxy Conference)Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (Smackdown Hotel Conference)#21 Final Fantasy VII (Fanservice Conference)Sonic Adventure 2 (Sonic Overload Conference)abstainabstainTeam Fortress 2 (Brawl for Broke Conference)Animal Crossing (Tanooki Blitzball Conference)Professor Layton and the Unwound Future (Brawl for Broke Conference)abstain
        
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            2010 Game of the Decade Contest - some guy named Black Turtle won the guru for thishttp://backloggery.com/articuno2001/sig.gif

        
    
    



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