Board 8 > This is a horribly sad photo of Steve Jobs.

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PartOfYourWorld
08/26/11 3:45:00 PM
#51:


God damn, it hurts just imagining what terminal (I don't think he's gonna beat this, is he) cancer sufferers must be going through. Looks like he's being eaten from the inside, which I suppose is what's happening. Terrible.

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ShadowHalo17
08/26/11 3:46:00 PM
#52:


Quick google search because I was actually interested in this...

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/cm/v20/n1/did-eve-eat-an-apple

So no, it never said it was an apple, but over the years, it's been interpreted that it was.

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BoshStrikesBack
08/26/11 3:48:00 PM
#53:


Are you saying that if someone makes fun of someone else with cancer, they can get arrested?

yes

That's what Bosh does. One little joke... you've got a firecracker and he reacts like it's a hydrogen bomb. Seen it all before.

Guess we have different definitions about what constitutes a "little joke."

Anyway, this topic is unsalvageable at this point.

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ShadowHalo17
08/26/11 3:49:00 PM
#54:


From: BoshStrikesBack | #053
Are you saying that if someone makes fun of someone else with cancer, they can get arrested?

yes


oh

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KingButz
08/26/11 3:51:00 PM
#55:


Yeah, the media usually represents it as an apple, and many christians I have met think it's an apple, so for discussion purposes it might as well be.

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Sorozone
08/26/11 3:54:00 PM
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From: ShadowHalo17 | #037
My god dude, I'm not trying to convince you to think the same way as me, I personally hate Apple, I have reasons that I can't quite explain.


I'll try to explain it(I'm not trying to put words in to your mouth either).

You made a joke at him about having cancer because you hate Apple, and he happens to be the head guy at Apple. You don't necessarily hate Jobs, you just hate the company that is Apple.
I don't like their products, I happen to think they are slow, breakable, over-priced pieces of garbage, that gets re -released on a yearly basis, with small improvements that probably could have been implemented in the previous years model.

So the head guys gets cancer, am I suppose to care now? No. People all around the world are going through the exact same thing, but because he is 'important' and has a lot of money, he gets the media publicity, and they make it so you should care, but the fact is I don't.
Maybe for a couple of seconds I'll go "Oh, well that sucks", but then I'll just be on my way, not caring about him or anyone else in the world going through the same thing, because I personally have no relationship with them, so I have no time in my heart to care. You don't like his company, so that just compounds the fact of you not caring.

As opposed to an Apple consumer who may care just a tad bit longer, because the possibility of the company going to crap(for them) is now a real possibility.

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SupremeZero
08/26/11 3:54:00 PM
#57:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_fruit

At least there's a decent reason for them thinking it's an apple.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/26/11 3:54:00 PM
#58:


BoshStrikesBack posted...
Are you saying that if someone makes fun of someone else with cancer, they can get arrested?

yes

That's what Bosh does. One little joke... you've got a firecracker and he reacts like it's a hydrogen bomb. Seen it all before.

Guess we have different definitions about what constitutes a "little joke."

Anyway, this topic is unsalvageable at this point.


Do you even have a definition of a little joke? You don't seem to recognize one right in front of you so I'm actually extremely curious as to what your definition is.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/26/11 3:57:00 PM
#59:


Sorozone that was incredibly well said.

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Pretty_Odd
08/26/11 3:59:00 PM
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Well not to be rude but he was the head of a corporation and the media have taught me that corporations are evil and need to pay more taxes so I guess he had it coming?

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VincentLauw
08/26/11 4:05:00 PM
#61:


From: Pretty_Odd | #060
Well not to be rude but he was the head of a corporation and the media have taught me that corporations are evil and need to pay more taxes so I guess he had it coming?


post of the ever


anyway, my post was more meant to be a jab at people who take cancer lightly. It's not just Steve Jobs you're making fun of. Second of all, it's kind of sad to make fun of a person dying. Even if you don't care, you basically wouldn't joke about that in public. Why do it here? (expecting the answer to be 'the internet, get used to it' or something like that) Leave it up to the shock value comedians.


And I'm probably kind of a hypocrite because I did make fun of (make jokes about is a better expression, still didn't want that person to die) that one incident with the stripper and trashcan. I can live with that and I admit it. This just feels like a whole other thing to me.

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ZFS
08/26/11 4:11:00 PM
#62:


I feel bad for anyone who has cancer, regardless of how much or how little money they have. It's always awful to see a picture of someone physically deteriorating from a disease. You could replace "Steve Jobs" with "Dude," and I'd feel the same. Something about "I've hated X company all my life you don't even know" equating to "they make products I don't like also my school used them" is like uhhhh okay. Whatever, that's me! I don't harbor dumb grudges like that.

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ShadowHalo17
08/26/11 4:21:00 PM
#63:


If you actually read my posts, I SAID I don't wish cancer on anyone, no one deserves such a thing. I'm not taking it lightly. I still find it difficult to feel sorry for Steve Jobs, on a human level, yeah, it's sad that he has cancer, but there are sooooo many people in the world that deserve more sympathy because they have cancer, and unlike Jobs, they're NOT rich as all f***. Steve Jobs has cancer, oh no, sad, thousands of people have cancer and are poor, they deserve a lot more sympathy yet they don't get it because they don't have the money to pay for the publicity.

All I said initially was that Apple gives you cancer, that was more a shot at the company than at Jobs himself. People just blew it way out of proportion.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/26/11 4:21:00 PM
#64:


I saw that picture of the safety nets Apple put up to catch employees who would jump. I'm now thinking I should set up safety nets in this topic... just in case anyone falls off a high horse...

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PartOfYourWorld
08/26/11 4:23:00 PM
#65:


In all honesty cancer is tragic and the only person I want to get it is Sakurai

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Biolizard28
08/26/11 4:32:00 PM
#66:


At the end of the day, Jobs's life and eventual death don't really matter to me. Nobody should have to suffer the slow and painful death that terminal cancer brings with it, but that's the only reason I feel even an ounce of pity for this man. Apple's business practices are atrocious and will not be erased from history when Jobs dies. You can continue to say he's a poor thing if you want, just remember who he was last week.

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ZFS
08/26/11 4:39:00 PM
#67:


ShadowHalo17 posted...
All I said initially was that Apple gives you cancer, that was more a shot at the company than at Jobs himself. People just blew it way out of proportion.

For my part, I never said you wished anything on anyone. I just found it eyeroll worthy your reasoning for "hating Apple all your life," or even the idea that it wasn't the same as hating some other multinational corporation who people deem "evil." Finding it hard to sympathize with someone because they're richer than you, though, and because your school forced Macs upon your childhood is something I don't understand and have no real desire to, so whatever!

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Emporer_Kazbar
08/26/11 4:49:00 PM
#68:


From: ShadowHalo17 | #033
If you actually read my posts, I SAID I don't wish cancer on anyone, no one deserves such a thing. I'm not taking it lightly. I still find it difficult to feel sorry for Steve Jobs, on a human level, yeah, it's sad that he has cancer, but there are sooooo many people in the world that deserve more sympathy because they have cancer, and unlike Jobs, they're NOT rich as all f***. Steve Jobs has cancer, oh no, sad, thousands of people have cancer and are poor, they deserve a lot more sympathy yet they don't get it because they don't have the money to pay for the publicity.

All I said initially was that Apple gives you cancer, that was more a shot at the company than at Jobs himself. People just blew it way out of proportion.


My one question here: who cares if he's rich? I mean, I agree in that he shouldn't get MORE sympathy than the many people around the world with cancer, but why does he deserve LESS just because of how much money he's made?

And Steve Jobs didn't pay for the media to cover his leaving Apple, or TMZ to come over and take a picture of him looking sickly. That's just downright silly. He just happens to be a high-profile public figure. I'd expect the same TV coverage for Bill Gates (yes, I know he doesn't work for Microsoft any more), Richard Branson, or one of the many other famous businessmen if they got cancer.

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neonreaper888
08/26/11 4:51:00 PM
#69:


poor guy

Apple is a great company

that is all

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Dauntless Hunter
08/26/11 4:59:00 PM
#70:


Even Apple's CEO comes in a new slimmer, lighter model.

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ShadowHalo17
08/26/11 5:08:00 PM
#71:


From: ZFS | #067
For my part, I never said you wished anything on anyone. I just found it eyeroll worthy your reasoning for "hating Apple all your life," or even the idea that it wasn't the same as hating some other multinational corporation who people deem "evil." Finding it hard to sympathize with someone because they're richer than you, though, and because your school forced Macs upon your childhood is something I don't understand and have no real desire to, so whatever!


I... don't understand where you're inferring this from, I guess I wasn't clear enough with my posts. I don't feel like repeating myself and what others in this topic have said though.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/26/11 5:13:00 PM
#72:


ShadowHalo17 posted...
From: ZFS | #067
For my part, I never said you wished anything on anyone. I just found it eyeroll worthy your reasoning for "hating Apple all your life," or even the idea that it wasn't the same as hating some other multinational corporation who people deem "evil." Finding it hard to sympathize with someone because they're richer than you, though, and because your school forced Macs upon your childhood is something I don't understand and have no real desire to, so whatever!
I... don't understand where you're inferring this from, I guess I wasn't clear enough with my posts. I don't feel like repeating myself and what others in this topic have said though.


He's just saying that sympathy should be absolute, universal and unconditional... or something asinine like that...

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CalvinbalI
08/26/11 6:14:00 PM
#73:


SlymDayspring posted...
hey now, apple has no such sweatshops.

they just are customers of the company that does.

more like that company is a customer of apple, but yeah.


The company isn't paying Apple to make their phones, Apple is paying them. Apple is the customer.

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Pretty_Odd
08/26/11 6:37:00 PM
#74:


In all seriousness though, I feel for him. Pancreatic cancer is the worst. It's how Patrick Swayze died and it's how my grandfather died a few days before last Christmas. He looked just like Jobs does in that picture. He lasted for a long time, too... probably about the same time as Jobs, even though Jobs has the money to get the best treatment in the world. It still couldn't save him. So that's probably how my dad will go, and then me... if a heart attack doesn't take us first.

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neonreaper888
08/26/11 6:41:00 PM
#75:


curious to see where you guys think most of your stuff is made and what the conditions are in those places

or what the business people that sell that stuff to you are like

and so on

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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/26/11 6:45:00 PM
#77:


Neon I'm not really understanding why you aren't taking the "ED BELLIS"x100 approach to this topic...

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Pretty_Odd
08/26/11 6:46:00 PM
#78:


I buy American.

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BoshStrikesBack
08/26/11 6:48:00 PM
#79:


Even Apple's CEO comes in a new slimmer, lighter model.

i laughed at this

i am a horrible human being

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SlymDayspring
08/26/11 6:50:00 PM
#80:


The company isn't paying Apple to make their phones, Apple is paying them. Apple is the customer.

You are totally right, calvinball. i have no idea wtf I was thinking of when I said that. I blame the fact that I am really sick.

curious to see where you guys think most of your stuff is made and what the conditions are in those places

I am not like, pretending that the electronics I buy are made in better conditions...all I was saying was that I don't really think some ceo who makes money off exploiting people is the 'good guy' while some guy making a joke about him on the internet is to be condemned.

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paperwarior
08/26/11 6:55:00 PM
#81:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Have we already forgotten the topic about the stripper who burned to death?

B8 is not a kind place. This has been well-established.


Incidentally, here's Ulti of all people saying Jobs having cancer is pretty much divine retribution. Why aren't the living afforded the respect that's demanded for the dead?

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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/26/11 7:01:00 PM
#82:


BoshStrikesBack posted...
Even Apple's CEO comes in a new slimmer, lighter model.

i laughed at this

i am a horrible human being


Jesus Christ you're all over the place man >_<

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jck4332
08/26/11 7:06:00 PM
#84:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Wasn't really trying to be religious, but it's impossible not to believe in karma.

No it isn't.

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the icon ownz all
08/26/11 7:13:00 PM
#86:


Those pictures are horrifying. This looks eerily similar to the situation Jack Layton was in this year. For Steve Jobs' sake, I hope it doesn't end the same.

As for the rest of this topic, terrible.


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SlymDayspring
08/26/11 7:14:00 PM
#87:


who the hell actually believes in karma? lol

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XIII_rocks
08/26/11 7:20:00 PM
#88:


Steve Jobs is partly responsible for Pixar. That's an outstanding contribution to the entertainment industry.

Don't get me wrong, I'd feel sorry for anybody with cancer, it's terrible.

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TheOceIot
08/26/11 7:20:00 PM
#89:


the icon ownz all posted...
Those pictures are horrifying. This looks eerily similar to the situation Jack Layton was in this year. For Steve Jobs' sake, I hope it doesn't end the same.

As for the rest of this topic, terrible.


This.

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Blulum
08/26/11 7:25:00 PM
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Apple uses sweat shop labor? And they still mark up their hardware 200% compared to an equivalent PC -_-

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ImTheMacheteGuy
08/26/11 7:28:00 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Wasn't really trying to be religious, but it's impossible not to believe in karma.

Religion's been poisoned for me, so I get a bit trigger happy when I see words like "God" >_<. Definitely hear you on the karma thing though. I think some people try to define it in overly simplistic terms when it's actually very profound, but it's definitely a constant no matter how it's approached.

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Zachnorn
08/26/11 7:36:00 PM
#93:


Apple uses sweat shop labor? And they still mark up their hardware 200% compared to an equivalent PC -_-

And yet, Apple is apparently the most valuable company at the moment. I'd say that people are obviously buying and wanting Apple stuff!

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Gr8CyberMonkey
08/26/11 7:37:00 PM
#94:


Those pictures are horrifying. I assume I made the correct decision by not reading the topic past the seventh post.

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Blulum
08/26/11 7:50:00 PM
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And yet, Apple is apparently the most valuable company at the moment. I'd say that people are obviously buying and wanting Apple stuff!

I never said people weren't idiots.

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Blulum
08/27/11 3:18:00 AM
#97:


Apple just takes advantage of peoples idiocy though, they don't do that much that's -evil- per se as a lot of people in this topic are getting on them about. Quick question for everyone who considers Apple evil, what is your opinion on Sony? Because this company that installs rootkits on their customers computers, that won't fix their broken systems like MS and Nintendo do until forced to by lawsuit, that keeps its customers private info unencrypted, and that tries to subpoena people for viewing a youtube page, somehow seems to be pretty well regarded here! Does Sony get a free pass for being an evil, consumer abusive corporation because they make some good video games like SotC and GoW while Apple maintains a platform that is not a good choice for gaming?

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Blulum
08/27/11 3:19:00 AM
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Apple just takes advantage of peoples idiocy though, they don't do that much that's -evil- per se as a lot of people in this topic are getting on them about. Quick question for everyone who considers Apple evil, what is your opinion on Sony? Because this company that installs rootkits on their customers computers, that won't fix their defective systems like MS and Nintendo do until forced to by lawsuit, that keeps its customers private info unencrypted, and that tries to subpoena people for viewing a youtube page, somehow seems to be pretty well regarded here! Does Sony get a free pass for being an evil, consumer abusive corporation because they make some good video games like SotC and GoW while Apple maintains a platform that is not a good choice for gaming?

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WhakkoJacko
08/27/11 5:23:00 AM
#99:


ITT: people acting like Apple is the only electronics company in the world using sweatshops.

Feel free to take the fight, but don't go around acting like you only buy products from companies who treats all of their employees well. If it's not your electronics, it's the clothes you wear or even the games you play: http://www.next-gen.biz/news/former-team-bondi-staff-reveal-troubled-la-noire-development

Going by that standard I guess Google is the best company in the world.

Hope Steve Jobs has a somewhat painless final time of his life.

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SlymDayspring
08/27/11 6:10:00 AM
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actually, nobody was acting like that.

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