Board 8 > So I just bought Suikoden off ebay

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Always wanted to try this series out, but what is it that makes it so good?

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I hope you got it for cheap cause it seems rather short-sighted to buy a game without knowing what makes it "good."

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part 1? its on psn for lik $5 > >

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SnoicFactor posted...
part 1? its on psn for lik $5 > >

Came in here to say this. No real reason to buy the pricey original unless you don't have a PS3 or PSP

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From: SnoicFactor | #003
part 1? its on psn for lik $5 > >

Me and my girl like to own the physical copy of each game we want. It was $30 and in excellent condition with case and manual.

EDIT: Also I don't have a PS3 or PSP

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Suikoden 1 (and 3) is good but don't expect it to be great.



That's what you expect 2 and 5 to be.

If you ever play 4 expect it to be absolute s*** though.

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Suikoden 1 is good, but fairly simplistic. A completely serviceable RPG worth playing for any fan of the genre, but it won't blow your socks off or anything.

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I can respect a man who wants to own a legit copy of a game and not a download

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Well we do plan on getting all 5 of the main series. There is a gamestop here by us that has 3, 4 and 5.

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f***, I keep trying to go back to Suikoden 1 but it won't stop blowing my socks off

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The Utility Man posted...
Well we do plan on getting all 5 of the main series. There is a gamestop here by us that has 3, 4 and 5.

Then you should get them now while the Buy 2 PS2 games, get 2 free deal is going on.

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From: FateStayAlbion | #011
Then you should get them now while the Buy 2 PS2 games, get 2 free deal is going on.

Exactly why we've picked now to start getting them. =)

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IMO though, the absolute best reason to play Suikoden is to enhance Suikoden II.

II is excellent as a standalone, but knowing the returning characters beforehand really makes the game even better.

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II is obviously going to be the hardest to get, but we won't be moving onto 3 until we get it and play it.

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3 > 5 > 2 > 1 > 4

Never gotten the massive love for Suikoden 2...its a very good game, but 3 and 5 just immersed me significantly more, and the main characters actually having personality puts 3 easily at the top for me.

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II isn't really "hard to get," it's just hard to get for cheaper than $80. <_<

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Well yea XD. When I said hard to get I meant hard to let go of so much money for, but if there's no other way...

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There really isn't any other way to legally obtain it unless you get REALLY lucky at a garage sale or flea market or something. You're gonna have to cough up the bucks unless you have a Japanese PS1 and can read Japanese.

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No Japanese PS1. =/

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http://www.amazon.com/Suikoden-II-Playstation/dp/B00001X50L/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314909975&sr=8-1

If I saw it for 80 bucks, I'd be tempted to buy it just to resell

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There have been a few copies on ebay for around $80-100 but they were in bad shape or missing box/instructions.

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FateStayAlbion posted...
http://www.amazon.com/Suikoden-II-Playstation/dp/B00001X50L/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314909975&sr=8-1

If I saw it for 80 bucks, I'd be tempted to buy it just to resell

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suikoden-II-Sony-PlayStation-1-1999-RARE-RPG-/170688558879?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item27bdd4b71f

Here's the cheapest one on eBay at the moment with a Buy It Now option. $85 and seller has 100% positive feedback. Jump on it!

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its "Acceptable"

that doesn't bode well with me

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JaKyL25 posted...
FateStayAlbion posted...
http://www.amazon.com/Suikoden-II-Playstation/dp/B00001X50L/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1314909975&sr=8-1

If I saw it for 80 bucks, I'd be tempted to buy it just to resell

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suikoden-II-Sony-PlayStation-1-1999-RARE-RPG-/170688558879?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item27bdd4b71f

Here's the cheapest one on eBay at the moment with a Buy It Now option. $85 and seller has 100% positive feedback. Jump on it!

"The disc has been resurfaced but looks good. As for the manual and art work they have heavy water damage. The manuals pages have stuck together and have harden, the back art work has wrinkles and water damage too."

Ick.

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Well it says the manual and case have water damage, but the disc itself is completely playable.

Honestly if I needed a quick $50 right now I'd buy it. I have a copy with a fine case and manual. I'd just put the $85 one in that case and keep the damaged manual (not like I need it), and re-sell it as "good"

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but what is it that makes it so good?

Its fast paced battle system, you get to use 6 characters in battle, you get your own mountain castle, there are a total of 108 characters in the game that you can recruit, each one needs a different methods of recruiting. The runes, wars, and duels make the game unique The storyline is interesting without being too complex, the setting is perfect, the music is fittingly awesome and the art style is great.

You have made the right decision buying this game. Make sure you pick up Suikoden II after beating this one.

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Now that I think about it, I do have somewhat of a conundrum.

If they ever do release it on PSN, the value will drop. It won't plummet completely (Suikoden 1 is still worth $30 in good condition), but it'll definitely decrease the price of a used copy.

I am not someone that cares about owning physical copies of games (although I do care about owning legal copies, downloaded or physical). If I can turn a profit by selling my physical copy and replacing it with a downloaded copy someday when I'm in need of cash, I would totally do it.

So my issue is this: should I just go ahead and sell my copy sometime soon under the assumption that it'll eventually be a $5-$10 download, or do I hold onto it just in case it never is?

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FateStayAlbion posted...
3 > 5 > 2 > 1 > 4

Never gotten the massive love for Suikoden 2...its a very good game, but 3 and 5 just immersed me significantly more, and the main characters actually having personality puts 3 easily at the top for me.

Suikoden II is my favorite game, but after playing both Suikoden III and Suikoden V, I was second-guessing my rankings. Still, I can't help but put Suikoden II at the top. Both 3 and 5 are much longer games than 2 so it's harder for me to find the time to replay them, but I did find that upon replaying 5, it wasn't quite as good as I remembered it, while every replay of Suikoden II for me is just as enjoyable as I hope. I think I've only played through Suikoden III once (I feel so wrong saying that...), but I've read the manga several times.

I definitely agree about the main characters in 3 having a lot of personality, but I wouldn't suggest that they didn't have much in 2 (not sure if you were, though). Jowy is my favorite character in the entire series and I think he, Nanami (especially), and even Riou have definable personalities and a healthy amount of it, too (though clearly in Riou's case, less of it than in the others).

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Yeah, Riou has a fairly distinct personality, for being a silent protagonist. He has to be one of the most well-developed of those!

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If you ever play 4 expect it to be absolute s*** though.

>_<

I just picked up 4 from that Gamestop PS2 sale. Oh well, it was free.

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I definitely agree about the main characters in 3 having a lot of personality, but I wouldn't suggest that they didn't have much in 2 (not sure if you were, though). Jowy is my favorite character in the entire series and I think he, Nanami (especially), and even Riou have definable personalities and a healthy amount of it, too (though clearly in Riou's case, less of it than in the others).

Yeah, those supporting characters were great, especially Jowy. But I mean how the main character doesn't really have a personality outside of you just saying stuff for him, while the 3 main characters in S3 were a lot more defined. It always kinds of hurts my enjoyment of an RPG when the main character doesn't have a personality, and is just kinda along for the ride

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You know how people debate whether or not the sailing in Wind Waker ruined the game or was actually fun?

Suikoden IV feels like a game created by the people that hated the sailing to prove their point.

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Suikoden IV isn't that bad, but it's not that good either. On the other hand, Tactics was actually pretty good, except for the story, which is awful.

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Suikoden 4 isn't a bad game.. its just a bad game for a great series. I'd still say its an average/above average jrpg if you look past what series it is.

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Alright well that's good.

I'm a fan of SRPGs so I've wanted to try the series, but I can never find any of them for a good price.

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...they're not SRPGs, except for Tactics.

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well crap.

I have been mislead.

But I still like JRPGs

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Well there is an SRPG element to them at least.

All the War Battles take place in some different form than the random battles, and in most of the games those forms are like lite-SRPGs.

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The War Battles were what I most often heard about with this series.

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Well they are the most unique element outside of the 108 Stars of Destiny recruitment, but they take up 5% of the game at best.

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From: tcaz2 | #006
If you ever play 4 expect it to be absolute s*** though.

I have heard most people say 4 is the worst one, but still...I can get it at Gamestop for free with their buy 2 get 2 free deal, and I'd want to own the whole set.

From: SHINE GET 64 | #008
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I've always been this way. Something about just being able to hold the game in your hands, read the manual, enjoy the boxart, etc just makes it feel worth it.

From: XenoDeity | #027
Its fast paced battle system, you get to use 6 characters in battle, you get your *spoiler* own island mountain castle, there are a total of 108 characters in the game that you can recruit, each one needs a different methods of recruiting. The runes, wars, and duels make the game unique. The storyline is interesting without being too complex, the setting is perfect, the music is fittingly awesome and the art style is great.

You have made the right decision buying this game. Make sure you pick up Suikoden II after beating this one.

Good to know what people like it for. I do have to say though, I pretty much expected to love the music the moment I noticed it was made by Konami. I'll definitely be getting the 2nd one if I enjoyed the 1st too.

From: BIGPUN9999 | #024
its "Acceptable"

that doesn't bode well with me

Yea, Acceptable is NOT Acceptable to me. It has to "at least" be in very good condition with both case and instructions. Even if that ran me $20-30 more I'd get the bette condition one.

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That reminds me, I forgot to ask. Are all 5 games connected storywise?

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Not in the sense that you NEED to play them all, but they are all set in the same world with references to each other, yes.

They're very geo-political.

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I, II and III are fairly connected, in the sense that there are quite a few recurring characters and their actions are motivated by what's happened in the previous games.

IV is a distant prequel (as in a few hundred years before I), but still sets up a few elements. V is another prequel, but much closer, being only a few years before I. Again, it sets up a few things, and gives a handful of characters a bit more backstory, but its own plot is pretty much self contained.

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The three that are most connected and 1, 2, and 5. All of them share quite a few characters (1 and 2 especially). 3 and 4 have a couple characters from other ones, mainly fan favorites, but otherwise don't really connect story wise with the others.

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IV -- V -- I -- II -- III
is the chronological order of the games, but play them in release order.

IV takes place 140 years before V, then it's 10 years until the original, then 2 years until II, and then 15 years later part III happens, and it's the last in the series chronologically.

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A lot of series seem to go forward and then make games that happened before 1.

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Also I haven't played Tactics, but my understanding is that the game opens prior to Suikoden IV but ends after the conclusion of IV.

If you're including it, you should play IV first, because you can carry over saved data.

That's another thing cool about the series is that your saved data from one game often can carry over to the next, to enhance recurring characters' stats, and for bonus items.

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