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SmartMuffin
09/13/11 5:16:00 PM
#1:


Specific Rules:

Due to the overwhelming amount of games available to choose from, I'm not going to be posting lines from every game available. You will find and use lines on your own from whatever legitimate source you choose. We will be using a limited honor system here. You post the line you find, and I'll cross-check it with the source I use. I'll allow you a 2-point window in either direction. In other words, if your line is within two points of mine, I'll accept your line. If it's more than two points away, I'll let you know, and you can either change your pick or use my line. If a neutral party (neither myself nor the original picker) wishes to challenge my line, we can work it out over an AIM chat or something. Please note, the window is NOT there for the purpose of allowing you to pad your lines or anything. Be honest about the lines you fine. Honor system applies here.

However, since some of you probably won't want to do exhaustive research, I will post around five "spotlight games" each week. For the spotlight games, my lines must be used.

You may submit your picks at any time prior to the first game you are picking. All games must be picked in one post, meaning, if you want to pick a Thursday game and two Saturday games, you must pick all three games prior to the first game starting. Once any of your games have started, you may not change any of your picks. If you are going to change picks, DELETE AND REPOST. Do not edit your post. Any edited posts will not count.

Unless otherwise noted, every game picked must meet the following criteria: At least ONE of the teams involved must either be a member of a BCS conference, or ranked in the Top 25. BOTH teams must be members of Division 1-A, bowl division, whatever the hell it's called these days. For levels involving player-specific props, the spread of the game you are picking must be under 20.

The "week" will run Thursday - Monday. No games played on Tuesday or Wednesday are eligible for prediction until Championship Week. I'm thinking of including Bowl Season in this contest and doing something totally different for it, but haven't worked out the details yet. Keep this in mind so you don't accuse me of "changing the rules midway through." I'm warning you that such a change is coming now.

ATS = against the spread. OU = over/under. SU = straight up. If you don't know what these things mean, learn. We'll be using them frequently.

I will be participating myself. If anyone has any objections or thinks I'm doing anything unfairly, feel free to call me out and we'll sort it out. There's no prize here, it's all in good fun, fair competition among fans is encouraged!

Level 3: The Jakyl Tier - Three game teaser (pick three games ATS, add six points in your favor to each spread, all games must win, you may advance with ONE push)

Level 2:
Pick three games OU. Must get two or more correct to advance.

Level 1:
Pick one game ATS.

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SmartMuffin
09/13/11 5:16:00 PM
#2:


Level 3
TsunamiXXVIII
GaryOak151
RappinHobo
Paratroopa1
KCF0107
BrettEagles
Jakyl

Level 2
Regaro_Ukiera
KommunistKoala
MajinZidane
Achromatic
Camden
masterplum
SmartMuffin
sonten1
Wiggumfan267

Level 1
Viviff
BBallman7

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JaKyL25
09/13/11 5:39:00 PM
#3:


I do love me some teasers!

Stanford -4 @ Arizona (teased down from -10)

Michigan State +10.5 @ Notre Dame (teased up from +4.5)

Wisconsin -11 @ Northern Illinois (teased down from -17)

3 road teams, that'll work!

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JaKyL25
09/13/11 5:42:00 PM
#4:


And good god @ that Michigan State/Notre Dame line. What exactly does Notre Dame have to do to lose respect?

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SmartMuffin
09/13/11 5:50:00 PM
#5:


Ack, I should clarify. For those on level 3, please just post the REGULAR lines and I will tease them myself, it'll be less confusing for me.

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JaKyL25
09/13/11 5:54:00 PM
#6:


Should I delete and repost then?

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SmartMuffin
09/13/11 5:58:00 PM
#7:


Nah, you're fine, just from here on out plz. Also, spotlight games delayed until O/U

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KCF0107
09/13/11 6:03:00 PM
#8:


Wait, ND are favorites?

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SmartMuffin
09/13/11 6:05:00 PM
#9:


They're due, right? That has to be the logic!

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JaKyL25
09/13/11 6:05:00 PM
#10:


Not just favorites, 4 1/2 point favorites!

...I can't think of a single thing either team has done over the first two weeks to warrant that. MSU has been dominant, and ND has been shaky at best.

Granted, they are at home with their backs against the wall, but I would have guessed the line at ND -1.5

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KCF0107
09/13/11 6:07:00 PM
#11:


Looking up other games soon but I will almost certainly jump on that game though

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SmartMuffin
09/13/11 6:09:00 PM
#12:


That one seems like a trap to me. Sure, MSU has been good, but who have they played?

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JaKyL25
09/13/11 6:10:00 PM
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Absolutely nobody, but it still takes some great defense to only give up 6 points over 2 games.

I am probably staying away from the line itself, but I definitely don't see MSU getting blown out.

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KCF0107
09/13/11 6:27:00 PM
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Based on where I looked at the spreads, I am so tempted to pick the North Texas/Alabama and Akron/Cincinnati games because of how huge their spreads are. I mean, I know that Akron is one of the worst teams in the FBS but I don't think that UC is good enough to beat them by 38+. Alabama would have to win by 52 in their game. I got a few others in mind as well so I am still mulling my options

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KCF0107
09/13/11 6:40:00 PM
#15:


Miami of Ohio Redhawks @ Minnesota Golden Gophers (-3.5)
Michigan State Spartans @ Notre Dame Fighting Irish (-5)
Syracuse Orange @ USC Trojans (-15.5)

I just want to clarify so that I am reading the rules correctly. With the 6 points in our favor, I am saying that the Golden Gophers will either win or be within 3 points of victory against Miami? I am saying that Michigan State will win or be within 10, I don't think that a push means a victory for me, points of victory against ND? I am saying that Syracuse will either win or come within 21 points of victory?

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JaKyL25
09/13/11 6:49:00 PM
#16:


The spreads you took, when teased 6 points, look like this:

Minnesota +2.5
Michigan State +11
Syracuse +21.5

So Minnesota must either win the game outright or lose by 2 or less, Michigan State must win the game outright or lose by 11 or less (since you get one push by SMuffin's rules, and only whole numbers can push, this would be the one), and Syracuse must win the game outright or lose by 21 or less.

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GaryOak151
09/13/11 7:42:00 PM
#17:


Michigan State +5.5
Boise State -20
Hawaii -20

all are "last i checked" although i'll take all 3 with any line

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TsunamiXXVIII
09/14/11 8:41:00 AM
#18:


Hawaii won't work, GaryOak. You need to have at least one team in each game that's either in a BCS conference or ranked. (Boise State's ranked, so they're fine even though they're playing fellow non-BCS conference team Toledo).

Michigan State +4.5
Utah +4.5
West Virginia +1

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BrettEagles
09/14/11 10:28:00 AM
#19:


Level 3:
Stanford -10
Wisconsin -17
Clemson -3

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SmartMuffin
09/14/11 2:42:00 PM
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So, how bout some spotlight games:

LSU -3.5 at Mississippi State (50)
Oklahoma -3 at Florida State (55)
Ohio State +2.5 at Miami (48)
Michigan State +4.5 at Notre Dame (51.5)
Stanford -10 at Arizona (54.5)

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Camden
09/14/11 3:16:00 PM
#21:


Stanford at Arizona (54.5) OVER
Utah at BYU (46.5) OVER
Akron at Cincinatti (56.5) UNDER

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GaryOak151
09/14/11 7:09:00 PM
#22:


oh god damn

replace hawaii game with uhhh

stanford -10

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masterplum
09/14/11 7:29:00 PM
#23:


Oklahoma -3 at Florida State (55) Under
Utah at BYU (46.5) Over
Michigan State +4.5 at Notre Dame 51.5 Over

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Regaro_Ukiera
09/15/11 2:35:00 PM
#24:


LSU @ Mississippi State UNDER 50
Stanford @ Arizona UNDER 54.5
Oklahoma @ Florida State OVER 55

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SmartMuffin
09/15/11 7:41:00 PM
#25:


Man I hate picking OUs, why did I make that stupid tier anyway.

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Paratroopa1
09/15/11 7:52:00 PM
#26:


Level 3:

Michigan State (+4.5)
Washington State (+5)
Arizona State (+2)

That Michigan State/Notre Dame spread makes me feel extremely nervous, because it just feels too easy, even though Michigan State being within 10.5 points seems like it should be a no-brainer. I can't really pass it up. Meanwhile, in my continuing theme of picking Pac-12 games, Arizona State shouldn't lose to Illinois by more than one score, and I'll throw a bone to Washington State, who deserves better in their line than they got.
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Regaro_Ukiera
09/15/11 8:42:00 PM
#27:


Woohoo I got one.


Also feeling somewhat confident about that Stanford@Arizona pick for some reason

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SmartMuffin
09/16/11 6:43:00 AM
#28:


Level 2
Tennessee at Florida OVER 51
Washington at Nebraska OVER 55
Arizona State at Illinois OVER 57


Taking a hint from people last week and going with all overs. Let's see how it works.

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_MSS_
09/16/11 6:47:00 AM
#29:


Level 1

Northwestern (-6) over Army
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Regaro_Ukiera
09/16/11 6:51:00 AM
#30:


I went for all overs last week and it blew up in my face Muffin!

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sonten1
09/16/11 7:29:00 PM
#31:


Michigan State at Notre Dame - UNDER
Northern Illinois (alma mater baby) at Wisconsin - UNDER
Stanford at Arizona - OVER

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SmartMuffin
09/17/11 6:32:00 AM
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Well, I'm working today, so good luck everyone!

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Achromatic
09/17/11 6:37:00 AM
#33:


Level 2

Florida game - Under
Michigan State at Notre Dame - Over
OU At FSU - Over


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GaryOak151
09/17/11 7:15:00 AM
#34:


no way in hell arizona state game goes over

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RappinHobo9292
09/17/11 7:26:00 AM
#35:


Ohio State +2.5
Michigan State +4.5
Stanford -10

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TsunamiXXVIII
09/17/11 9:03:00 AM
#36:


Damnit, now I'm nervous.

Switching from WVU over to WSU (+4.5)

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TsunamiXXVIII
09/17/11 9:07:00 AM
#37:


TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Damnit, now I'm nervous.

Switching from WVU over to WSU (+4.5)


Gah, not sure if WVU's game already started before I posted that. Eh, I guess I'll stick with WVU. It's just that when I made the WVU pick, the Mountaineers were a 1-point underdog, so with the 6-point teaser, they could end up losing by as much as a full touchdown and I'd still be able to make my pick. Then some Maryland players got suspended, and WVU became a 1-point favorite. I did pick WVU to win this outright, but I wasn't terribly confident to begin with, so I liked having that cushion.

Actually, yeah, sticking with WVU. If I wasn't confident enough in WSU to predict them outright, I shouldn't be taking them for this.

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TsunamiXXVIII
09/17/11 9:09:00 AM
#38:


TsunamiXXVIII posted...
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Damnit, now I'm nervous.

Switching from WVU over to WSU (+4.5)

Gah, not sure if WVU's game already started before I posted that. Eh, I guess I'll stick with WVU. It's just that when I made the WVU pick, the Mountaineers were a 1-point underdog, so with the 6-point teaser, they could end up losing by as much as a full touchdown and I'd still be able to make my pick. Then some Maryland players got suspended, and WVU became a 1-point favorite. I did pick WVU to win this outright, but I wasn't terribly confident to begin with, so I liked having that cushion.

Actually, yeah, sticking with WVU. If I wasn't confident enough in WSU to predict them outright, I shouldn't be taking them for this.


...And Maryland forces the turnover. DAMNIT WVU!

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TsunamiXXVIII
09/17/11 1:32:00 PM
#39:


Well, WVU came through after all.

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BrettEagles
09/17/11 1:35:00 PM
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Clemson came through for me. Wisconsin is looking good. Now I just need Stanford to take care of business tonight. Awww yeah!

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sonten1
09/17/11 3:43:00 PM
#41:


NIU/Wisconsin down.

Can still afford one touchdown in MSU/ND and win

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Paratroopa1
09/17/11 4:15:00 PM
#42:


Damnit. The absolute worst feeling in spread betting is when you know a game's a trap, you call it out on being a trap, and then you take it anyway. I should've known better, and I'm never going against my gut again.
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SmartMuffin
09/17/11 6:13:00 PM
#43:


Talk about putting all your eggs in one basket. Notre Dame just took out everyone in Level 3 except one person.

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KCF0107
09/17/11 9:02:00 PM
#44:


Oh, I just now saw that we had to get all three games correct

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Paratroopa1
09/17/11 9:04:00 PM
#45:


Yeah in fact, now that I look back on it, when I got the gut feeling that Michigan State was a trap, I should've especially avoided it because everyone else was taking it. I could've advanced to level 4 by myself by avoiding it, except I also got Washington State wrong because why the hell did I put faith in the Cougs?
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masterplum
09/17/11 9:50:00 PM
#46:


Yay level 3 here I come

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SmartMuffin
09/17/11 9:51:00 PM
#47:


except I also got Washington State wrong because why the hell did I put faith in the Cougs?

You just put faith. SOME PEOPLE put money on them =(

Anyway, at least Arizona is showing signs of life...

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Regaro_Ukiera
09/18/11 6:14:00 AM
#48:


Ok so I botched the OU/FSU game



BUT **** YEAH I GOT THE STANFORD GAME



Did anybody move on from level 3 this week <_<

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SmartMuffin
09/18/11 6:14:00 AM
#49:


BrettEagles becomes the only person to advance to Level 4.

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Regaro_Ukiera
09/18/11 6:21:00 AM
#50:


Oh, that's good. Minimizes the catchup I have to play

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