Board 8 > Just started Suikoden 1: First Impression is I LOVE the battle system!

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The Utility Man
09/18/11 9:09:00 AM
#1:


Having animated battles where the characters and enemies move at the same time is something more RPG's really should do. I hope the rest of the Suikoden games have this.

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SuperAngelo128
09/18/11 9:11:00 AM
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Most of them do yes

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The Utility Man
09/18/11 9:15:00 AM
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I at least hope the 5 main ones do then. Do any of them not?

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The Utility Man
09/18/11 11:00:00 AM
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Up

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Jeff Zero
09/18/11 11:01:00 AM
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I dunno, I'm still on the first game. >_>;

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TomNook7
09/18/11 11:02:00 AM
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Kirby Driver Reborn
09/18/11 11:04:00 AM
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first 2 Suikodens are great. fun stuff.

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Twilight the Fox
09/18/11 11:06:00 AM
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Ahhhh, 1. Definitely one of my all-time favorites. Great story, even if the translation is a bit wacky at times.

also protip just play the numbered games except for IV which is a piece of garbage.

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Jeff Zero
09/18/11 11:07:00 AM
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Yeah, Twilight, that's what they keep telling me. I'm going 1-2-3-5 on this.

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TomNook7
09/18/11 11:07:00 AM
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4's not bad, but yeah, play it last.

What are you playing Suikoden 1 on?

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The Utility Man
09/18/11 11:11:00 AM
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From: Twilight the Fox | #008
also protip just play the numbered games except for IV which is a piece of garbage.


I've already got 1, 3, 4, 5 and Tactics, plan on buying 2 when I can. (Recently got them so this is my first time playing any of them)

From: TomNook7 | #010
What are you playing Suikoden 1 on?


My PS2.

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The Utility Man
09/18/11 11:13:00 AM
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Still waiting to see if anyone can tell me which Suikoden games have the battle system the 1st does and which don't.

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TomNook7
09/18/11 11:14:00 AM
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Oh, so you have a Ps1 copy. Nice. They all have pretty much the same battle system except for 3.

Sell Tactics.

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The Utility Man
09/18/11 11:16:00 AM
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From: TomNook7 | #013
Oh, so you have a Ps1 copy. Nice


Yea, I like having a physical copy of my games, and to buy the original if able.

They all have pretty much the same battle system except for 3.


What's different about 3's battle system?

Sell Tactics.


I got it for about $5, figured it was at least worth getting to say I have all the main set, and for story purposes.

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TomNook7
09/18/11 11:20:00 AM
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Complete, physical originals are where it's at. Suikoden II costed me $120. Worth every penny.

Though as a collector, you really shouldn't allow Tactics onto your shelf. Keep your standards high.

3's battle system forces you to pair up characters and everyone runs around the map like a Tales game. It's the same **** at the core though.

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Djungelurban
09/18/11 11:20:00 AM
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They're mostly the same yeah. III had this system where every character was paired up with another which sometimes affected order and such and IV got a reduced party size to 4, but as a rule every character and enemy will attack in the order of their speed stat as fluidly as possible in all of the games.

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The Utility Man
09/18/11 11:23:00 AM
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Sounds pretty cool then.

From: TomNook7 | #015
Complete, physical originals are where it's at. Suikoden II costed me $120. Worth every penny.


I hope that I can find it at least somewhat cheaper than that. But if that's what it takes I'm willing to do that.

Though as a collector, you really shouldn't allow Tactics onto your shelf. Keep your standards high.


Yea, I know...but when I collect a series or set of something I like to have 100% of it. Hence why I have to force myself to buy Mega Man X7 to complete the set.....sigh.

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TomNook7
09/18/11 11:25:00 AM
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Only four party members was the only really bad thing about 4 (and that's only because it's a Suikoden game). People had gotten spoiled by 2 and 3's big massive world and plot and overlooked how 4 actually returned to 1's form.

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The Utility Man
09/18/11 11:27:00 AM
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Well, it will be a while before I make it to IV. I had heard bad things about IV but I kinda assumed that IV wasn't a bad game and just in fact disappointed people because it wasn't as good as the previous ones.

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TomNook7
09/18/11 11:27:00 AM
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Yea, I know...but when I collect a series or set of something I like to have 100% of it. Hence why I have to force myself to buy Mega Man X7 to complete the set.....sigh.

No you don't, man. You don't need any Final Fantasy after X or Mega Man 6 or Devil May Cry 2 or any of that. Get rid of that crap. You'll feel a lot better.

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The Utility Man
09/18/11 11:28:00 AM
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From: TomNook7 | #020
Mega Man 6


Out of what you mentioned I do have this....but there's no way I can part with a Mega Man game.

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SythaWarrior
09/18/11 11:35:00 AM
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Ah yes. The Flik/Viktor/Gremio/Tir game. I love that game. It's one of the weakest games in the series but still amazing.

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SemiFinal vs Belarus
09/18/11 11:42:00 AM
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From: The Utility Man | #017
I hope that I can find it at least somewhat cheaper than that. But if that's what it takes I'm willing to do that.


Well, I'm probably going to be selling my copy soon, but it's unlikely to be much cheaper than what TomNook paid.

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TomNook7
09/18/11 11:48:00 AM
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Cleo was my fav. I took her all the way to the final battle.

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The Utility Man
09/18/11 11:49:00 AM
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From: SemiFinal vs Belarus | #023
Well, I'm probably going to be selling my copy soon, but it's unlikely to be much cheaper than what TomNook paid.


I have a $25 ebay gift card so I'll most likely buy it off ebay.

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SythaWarrior
09/18/11 12:23:00 PM
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TomNook7 posted...
Cleo was my fav. I took her all the way to the final battle.

Heh Yea I used Cleo a lot too. She's surprisingly good. Most characters in S1 are very very similar but IIRC Cleo had slightly higher magic then Default and being L range in a game where Flik and Viktor wont get the hell out of your party locking up two S Range slots makes her pretty appealing. The real question is. Did anyone use any of the Blacksmiths?

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SemiFinal vs Belarus
09/18/11 12:41:00 PM
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I know I used Meese a lot in one of my playthroughs for some reason.

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NeoElfboy
09/18/11 1:05:00 PM
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The final blacksmith has surprisingly good stats IIRC. That said given the lack of good physical runes in S1 I don't see any reason to use pure fighters ('cept Viktor who is forced) which the blacksmiths pretty much all are.

And yeah, the "characters attacking at the same time" is kind of a series staple; no matter how much they change up the battle system, it's a constant.

S4 has a lot more flaws than just "only four PCs" but it's playable. Pretty easily the worst Suikoden game. I've only played like an hour of Tactics but it's a SRPG so it's gotta be better than 4.

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TomNook7
09/18/11 3:42:00 PM
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I also took Blackman into the final battle.

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Djungelurban
09/18/11 3:49:00 PM
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I sometimes take Sarah, she's surprisingly effective actually, both as a melee character but mostly as a magician.

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SemiFinal vs Belarus
09/18/11 3:50:00 PM
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From: TomNook7 | #029
I also took Blackman into the final battle.


aww yeah farmer gonna wreck some dudes

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Raka_Putra
09/18/11 3:54:00 PM
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Aww yeah Suikoden love ITT <3

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The Utility Man
09/18/11 3:57:00 PM
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From: NeoElfboy | #028
And yeah, the "characters attacking at the same time" is kind of a series staple; no matter how much they change up the battle system, it's a constant.


Very glad to hear that. Given that the game was by Konami, I already had pretty good hopes for other aspects of the game, but the fact that the battle plays out that way really makes me enjoy the battles. To me that's always been one of the most important aspects of RPG's, you have to enjoy the battles.

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SatonakaChie
09/18/11 4:03:00 PM
#34:


The first suikoden was okay, but the second one is were it's really at, it might even be my favorite PSX RPG.

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NeoElfboy
09/18/11 11:39:00 PM
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aww yeah farmer gonna wreck some dudes

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The n00b Avenger
09/19/11 1:42:00 AM
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That was like the 2nd PS1 RPG I ever played, so naturally I have a soft spot for it.

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TomNook7
09/21/11 10:13:00 AM
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