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Iamdead7
09/18/11 11:45:00 PM
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Napoleon is a badass straight out of Valhalla

Seriously the French Revolution and the subsequent Napoleonic Wars plays like something straight out of a movie

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LeonhartFour
09/18/11 11:46:00 PM
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That's because the Civil War was the boss.

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Iamdead7
09/18/11 11:47:00 PM
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Very true.

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baron von toast
09/18/11 11:48:00 PM
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Everything I need to know about the French Revolution I learned from Beaton.

http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=273

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Iamdead7
09/18/11 11:51:00 PM
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That was many kinds of amazing

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AlecTrevelyan006
09/19/11 12:15:00 AM
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Iamdead topic, so I expected something about how Napoleon co-opted the French Revolution and turned France into a dictatorship while claiming that he was doing so to remain true to the revolutionary ideals of liberty, the republic, etc.

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thundersheep
09/19/11 12:16:00 AM
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Americans don't learn about the French Revolution in high school?

That can't possibly be true.

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AlecTrevelyan006
09/19/11 12:18:00 AM
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I know I did.

Taught in both public and private school around here.

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red sox 777
09/19/11 12:23:00 AM
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The French Revolution was barely touched on at my high school. It is very America-centric indeed.

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RevolverSaro
09/19/11 12:31:00 AM
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We talked VERY briefly about the French Revolution. It basically amounted to "The French got pissed off at their king and then there was a revolution. Then some dude named Napoleon showed up and almost took over Europe"

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thundersheep
09/19/11 12:32:00 AM
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Gross. Which countries did you do major units on during Middle/High School?

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-LusterSoldier-
09/19/11 12:34:00 AM
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red sox 777 | Posted 9/19/2011 3:23:01 AM | message detail | quote
The French Revolution was barely touched on at my high school. It is very America-centric indeed.


That's true at my high school as well. I know my high school teaches 2 years of US History and one year of US Government (pretty sure that's a state mandate), leaving only one year of high school that can be used to teach World History (everything else outside of US History).

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RayDyn
09/19/11 12:41:00 AM
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My high school went 1 year Geography, 1 year World History, 1 year American History (this was a fun class, had a Vietnam veteran teach it,) half year each Political Science and Economics

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Iamdead7
09/19/11 8:02:00 AM
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We had World History till like 1600, the Amercian History in either 2 or 3 semesters depending if you did AP or not

so yeah, not much

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ExThaNemesis
09/19/11 8:05:00 AM
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Americans really don't learn enough

This, I think.

I have this prof for a media class I'm taking, and she's Taiwanese, and apparently over there the Government forces children to start getting a "Learn a new language" magazine subscription when they're in like first grade (or younger I can't remember) so they can start learning English (or Spanish or French or something). It made me incredibly jealous because I know I didn't start getting in depth Spanish instruction until like 6th grade. If I'd started on my own that early, I could've been damn near fluency by high school and already be moved on to learning another different language.

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Raka_Putra
09/19/11 8:12:00 AM
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It's much, much, muchhhhhhhh worse in Indonesia. We don't learn any world history outside of a very simplified version of WWI + WWII. Nil. Nada. Some people probably don't even know that there was a Civil War in America.

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ExThaNemesis
09/19/11 8:14:00 AM
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I think learning about world history is probably what most dissuaded me from wanting to be a doctor.

Because people are bastards.

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MeteorExF
09/19/11 9:00:00 AM
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In Ontario you take one mandatory history course in High school about Canadian history, and then there's tons of optional ones. I took two western world (see Europe) history courses, one dealing with Mesopotamia (Like Sumer and Babylon) through Middle Ages, and the other going from the Middle Ages through WWII.

I think Napoleon was like 2-3 weeks of classes worth alone. Probably didn't hurt that he was the teacher's favourite topic.

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VincentLauw
09/19/11 9:17:00 AM
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I think when it comes down to history the best place to learn it in schools is Western Europe

it's still obviously very biased but at least most **** before (and after) the 1800s went down THERE so it's understandable

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Ryo8889
09/19/11 9:45:00 AM
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Western Europe schools da best.


Especially the ones from Belgium.
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paperwarior
09/19/11 9:51:00 AM
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I did in fact learn about the French Revolution and Napoleon. We had separate World History and American History classes.

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XIII_rocks
09/19/11 9:59:00 AM
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Yeah I think I got a decent all-round education in history. Past 15 though it really started being about 1900 and on. In that time I learned about Russian Revolution, the depression, the new deal, the cold war, suffrage, etc. Oh and Stalin's rise to power. He was such an amazingly manipulative bastard.
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tyder21
09/19/11 10:02:00 AM
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We touched upon the French Revolution quite a lot at my school. The only year were we learned about American history was my junior year.

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Anagram
09/19/11 10:02:00 AM
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My high school had European History for ninth grade, and American History for tenth grade. I remembering learning all about the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars.

Besides, I'm told (though I don't know how true it is) that many European schools barely touch on nineteenth century American history beyond the basic Wild West stuff, and I personally knew a British guy who thought the Revolutionary War and the Civil War were the same thing, so whatever.

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kevwaffles
09/19/11 10:13:00 AM
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The French Revolution is like a third of the basic World History class. There was also AP European History, but we only had to have 3 social sciences and I literally ran out of room on my schedule.

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metroid composite
09/19/11 10:15:00 AM
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thundersheep posted...
Americans don't learn about the French Revolution in high school?

That can't possibly be true.


Yeah, that doesn't make sense at all, seeing as the French revolution and the American revolution are so closely tied together, with France being basically America's closest ally for some time afterwards because of the co-revolution, and the Statue of Liberty being a gift from France....

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metroid composite
09/19/11 10:25:00 AM
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Besides, I'm told (though I don't know how true it is) that many European schools barely touch on nineteenth century American history beyond the basic Wild West stuff, and I personally knew a British guy who thought the Revolutionary War and the Civil War were the same thing, so whatever.

The American Civil War only really impacted two countries as far as I know (Canada and America) so that isn't a total shock.

The French Revolution and American Revolution and Napoleonic wars impacted many countries and changed political dynamics.

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RevolverSaro
09/19/11 11:18:00 AM
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VincentLauw posted...
I think when it comes down to history the best place to learn it in schools is Western Europe

it's still obviously very biased but at least most **** before (and after) the 1800s went down THERE so it's understandable


wut.

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red sox 777
09/19/11 1:10:00 PM
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Yeah, that doesn't make sense at all, seeing as the French revolution and the American revolution are so closely tied together, with France being basically America's closest ally for some time afterwards because of the co-revolution, and the Statue of Liberty being a gift from France....

The reason is that the French Revolution came after the American Revolution, so it didn't impact it. Nor did the French Revolution have a huge impact on America afterwards, much less than the impact it had on Europe, which was huge.

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Blind Azathoth
09/19/11 2:29:00 PM
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it's still obviously very biased but at least most **** before (and after) the 1800s went down THERE so it's understandable

Of course you think most important things happened there, your biased history classes told you that. ;D

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