Board 8 > Anyone accepting government entitlements should be subjected to drug tests

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Andel 09/19/11 11:54:00 AM #1:	I think accepting entitlements should be similar to parole...the government needs some way to regulate the rabid abuse and this seems like a viable option. Florida is already drug testing for foodstamps (great idea) and I believe anyone acceptinh gov money should have random dt's, home inspections, ect. -- . <cite>Andel posted [p:356478] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> I think accepting entitlements should be similar to parole...the government needs some way to regulate the rabid abuse and this seems like a viable option. Florida is already drug testing for foodstamps (great idea) and I believe anyone acceptinh gov money should have random dt's, home inspections, ect. -- . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolmor0n 09/19/11 11:57:00 AM #2:	Drug tests are way too easy to fake and expensive to conduct. It's better to just wait a few years until we get wireless sensor networks embedded everywhere, and have nanochips/machines injected into our blood and such so the government can monitor people's blood like that instead. -- _foolmo_ mobile computer <cite>foolmor0n posted [p:356479] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Drug tests are way too easy to fake and expensive to conduct. It's better to just wait a few years until we get wireless sensor networks embedded everywhere, and have nanochips/machines injected into our blood and such so the government can monitor people's blood like that instead. -- _foolmo_mobile computer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leebo86 09/19/11 12:06:00 PM #3:	Someone actually proposed this in Rhode Island. So stupid. -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:356480] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Someone actually proposed this in Rhode Island. So stupid. -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leebo86 09/19/11 12:10:00 PM #5:	How much money is being lost and how much money is it going to cost to treat every person like a criminal. -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:356482] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> How much money is being lost and how much money is it going to cost to treat every person like a criminal. -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Silverliner182V 09/19/11 12:12:00 PM #6:	lmao thinking drug testing has any sort of credibility -- maybe, lol <cite>Silverliner182V posted [p:356483] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> lmao thinking drug testing has any sort of credibility -- maybe, lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 09/19/11 12:17:00 PM #8:	Not that I'm saying that I agree or disagree with him on this subject, but I do wonder if there's anything the federal government does or approves of that Ulti supports. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:356485] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Not that I'm saying that I agree or disagree with him on this subject, but I do wonder if there's anything the federal government does or approves of that Ulti supports. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leebo86 09/19/11 12:18:00 PM #9:	I think you can agree with me that the important part of my post was the cost/benefit analysis. If someone can show me that paying for drug tests for everyone to stop the small percentage on drugs is actually cost effective, that'd be a starting point for the discussion. -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:356486] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> I think you can agree with me that the important part of my post was the cost/benefit analysis.If someone can show me that paying for drug tests for everyone to stop the small percentage on drugs is actually cost effective, that'd be a starting point for the discussion. -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Theon_Greyjoy 09/19/11 12:21:00 PM #11:	*foolmor0n posted...* Drug tests are way too easy to fake They shouldn't have to be. At my college, athletes had to actually get their dick out and piss in a cup in front of someone else for random drug tests. Luckily I never got drawn for that. -- EndOfDiscOne http://www.newsgroper.com/files/post_images/Thom_Yorke---.jpg <cite>Theon_Greyjoy posted [p:356488] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> foolmor0n posted...Drug tests are way too easy to fakeThey shouldn't have to be. At my college, athletes had to actually get their dick out and piss in a cup in front of someone else for random drug tests. Luckily I never got drawn for that. -- EndOfDiscOnehttp://www.newsgroper.com/files/post_images/Thom_Yorke---.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leebo86 09/19/11 12:27:00 PM #13:	The specific circumstances are going to be different in every state. But once you know the costs, you can figure out how many people need to actually be doing drugs to make it worth doing and my memory was that in Rhode Island the percentage that would need to test positive for it to work was pretty ridiculous. -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:356490] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> The specific circumstances are going to be different in every state. But once you know the costs, you can figure out how many people need to actually be doing drugs to make it worth doing and my memory was that in Rhode Island the percentage that would need to test positive for it to work was pretty ridiculous. -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leebo86 09/19/11 12:28:00 PM #14:	*UltimaterializerX posted...* Leebo86 posted... Should I continue? Sure, if you think it has anything to do with the conversation, knock yourself out. -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:356491] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> UltimaterializerX posted...Leebo86 posted...Should I continue?Sure, if you think it has anything to do with the conversation, knock yourself out. -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
neonreaper 09/19/11 12:35:00 PM #15:	*Leebo86 posted...* How much money is being lost and how much money is it going to cost to treat every person like the people that pay for their entitlement programs. Not sure but I fixed that up for ya -- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter? Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. <cite>neonreaper posted [p:356492] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Leebo86 posted...How much money is being lost and how much money is it going to cost to treat every person like the people that pay for their entitlement programs.Not sure but I fixed that up for ya -- Donny: Are they gonna hurt us, Walter?Walter: No, Donny. These men are cowards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Andel 09/19/11 1:38:00 PM #16:	It would be much more efficient to pay for dts if it meant cutting out the massive amounts of fraud...the government is buying the lower echelon through entitlement programs and it is the insurance they need to stay in power. -- . <cite>Andel posted [p:356493] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> It would be much more efficient to pay for dts if it meant cutting out the massive amounts of fraud...the government is buying the lower echelon through entitlement programs and it is the insurance they need to stay in power. -- . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dauntless Hunter 09/19/11 1:44:00 PM #17:	*Theon_Greyjoy posted...* foolmor0n posted... Drug tests are way too easy to fake They shouldn't have to be. At my college, athletes had to actually get their dick out and piss in a cup in front of someone else for random drug tests. Luckily I never got drawn for that. Some government official shows up to watch Grandma pee so she can get her Social Security. That's gonna go over great with voters. -- Black Turtle spilled my diet soda! <cite>Dauntless Hunter posted [p:356494] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Theon_Greyjoy posted...foolmor0n posted...Drug tests are way too easy to fakeThey shouldn't have to be. At my college, athletes had to actually get their dick out and piss in a cup in front of someone else for random drug tests. Luckily I never got drawn for that.Some government official shows up to watch Grandma pee so she can get her Social Security. That's gonna go over great with voters. -- Black Turtle spilled my diet soda! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 09/19/11 1:48:00 PM #18:	*UltimaterializerX posted...* Not stupid at all, Leebo. Entitlement programs are mostly awful, easily abused and are a huge reason the country is bankrupt. Because mandatory drug tests for all people receiving entitlements will SAVE money. Right. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:356495] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> UltimaterializerX posted...Not stupid at all, Leebo. Entitlement programs are mostly awful, easily abused and are a huge reason the country is bankrupt.Because mandatory drug tests for all people receiving entitlements will SAVE money. Right. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 09/19/11 1:48:00 PM #19:	Or we can just get rid of all the entitlements. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized http://img.imgcake.com/gadsdenflaggifda.gif <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:356496] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Or we can just get rid of all the entitlements. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilizedhttp://img.imgcake.com/gadsdenflaggifda.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
edwardsdv 09/19/11 1:56:00 PM #20:	Im just saying, my Dad literally worked for a company that did only urine testing and their profit margins were stupid and my dad made way more money than should have been reasonable for collecting urine. Drug testing is big business and is in no way cheap to conduct, even if as a result you cut like a quarter of the people on welfare, the administration of regular drug tests will probably still increase the cost of the program. So its only worth doing if in principle you really really care about poor people using drugs. Otherwise its not worth it. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png <cite>edwardsdv posted [p:356497] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Im just saying, my Dad literally worked for a company that did only urine testing and their profit margins were stupid and my dad made way more money than should have been reasonable for collecting urine. Drug testing is big business and is in no way cheap to conduct, even if as a result you cut like a quarter of the people on welfare, the administration of regular drug tests will probably still increase the cost of the program. So its only worth doing if in principle you really really care about poor people using drugs. Otherwise its not worth it. -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Iamdead7 09/19/11 2:00:00 PM #22:	Some people can't afford not having them We are America, we shouldn't have our people dying in the streets. -- The box says "Online Gameplay not rated by ESRB", I should be able to trade my phallic named Wobbufetts to a bunch of 8 year olds. - MarvelousGerbil <cite>Iamdead7 posted [p:356499] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Some people can't afford not having themWe are America, we shouldn't have our people dying in the streets. -- The box says "Online Gameplay not rated by ESRB", I should be able to trade my phallic named Wobbufetts to a bunch of 8 year olds. - MarvelousGerbil </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leebo86 09/19/11 2:09:00 PM #23:	*edwardsdv posted...* Im just saying, my Dad literally worked for a company that did only urine testing and their profit margins were stupid and my dad made way more money than should have been reasonable for collecting urine. Drug testing is big business and is in no way cheap to conduct, even if as a result you cut like a quarter of the people on welfare, the administration of regular drug tests will probably still increase the cost of the program. So its only worth doing if in principle you really really care about poor people using drugs. Otherwise its not worth it. And isn't that Florida program having like 2% test positive? I think when people propose things like this, they're assuming that like 50% are going to test positive or something. -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:356500] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> edwardsdv posted...Im just saying, my Dad literally worked for a company that did only urine testing and their profit margins were stupid and my dad made way more money than should have been reasonable for collecting urine. Drug testing is big business and is in no way cheap to conduct, even if as a result you cut like a quarter of the people on welfare, the administration of regular drug tests will probably still increase the cost of the program. So its only worth doing if in principle you really really care about poor people using drugs. Otherwise its not worth it.And isn't that Florida program having like 2% test positive? I think when people propose things like this, they're assuming that like 50% are going to test positive or something. -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 09/19/11 2:10:00 PM #24:	Some people can't afford not having them tough luck, this is the real world and not every animal gets to survive especially when they do nothing towards their own survival. this isn't some childrens cartoon, a society can't survive just having 10% of the population leeching off of everyone else perpetually. We are America, we shouldn't have our people dying in the streets. america is also ranked like...38th IIRC for wealth distribution in the world, 90% of our resources are controlled by a tiny percent of the population. our tax structure isn't built for that, as it is now you are literally punished for being a good productive person if you don't also happen to be wealthy, what is your solution to that? tax the rich more? good **ing luck, all the politicians are in their pockets <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:356501] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Some people can't afford not having themtough luck, this is the real world and not every animal gets to survive especially when they do nothing towards their own survival. this isn't some childrens cartoon, a society can't survive just having 10% of the population leeching off of everyone else perpetually.We are America, we shouldn't have our people dying in the streets.america is also ranked like...38th IIRC for wealth distribution in the world, 90% of our resources are controlled by a tiny percent of the population. our tax structure isn't built for that, as it is now you are literally punished for being a good productive person if you don't also happen to be wealthy, what is your solution to that? tax the rich more? good **ing luck, all the politicians are in their pockets </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 09/19/11 2:11:00 PM #25:	And isn't that Florida program having like 2% test positive? I think when people propose things like this, they're assuming that like 50% are going to test positive or something. Nah. One of the main benefits of drug testing is that is acts as a deterrent. When people KNOW they're going to be tested, they're less likely to use drugs in the first place. Drug testing isn't just about kicking junkies off welfare, it's about giving people on welfare a major economic incentive to NOT use drugs. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized http://img.imgcake.com/gadsdenflaggifda.gif <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:356502] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> And isn't that Florida program having like 2% test positive? I think when people propose things like this, they're assuming that like 50% are going to test positive or something.Nah. One of the main benefits of drug testing is that is acts as a deterrent. When people KNOW they're going to be tested, they're less likely to use drugs in the first place. Drug testing isn't just about kicking junkies off welfare, it's about giving people on welfare a major economic incentive to NOT use drugs. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilizedhttp://img.imgcake.com/gadsdenflaggifda.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leebo86 09/19/11 2:14:00 PM #26:	I think you mean you want people to avoid welfare and just do drugs instead to save the state more money. Because I find it hard to believe that you'd care more about stopping drug use than spending the money. -- Connecticut Huskies <cite>Leebo86 posted [p:356503] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> I think you mean you want people to avoid welfare and just do drugs instead to save the state more money. Because I find it hard to believe that you'd care more about stopping drug use than spending the money. -- Connecticut Huskies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dauntless Hunter 09/19/11 2:15:00 PM #27:	From: Liquid Wind \| #023 tough luck, this is the real world and not every animal gets to survive especially when they do nothing towards their own survival. this isn't some childrens cartoon, a society can't survive just having 10% of the population leeching off of everyone else perpetually. "Kill the poor." -Liquid Wind -- Black Turtle spilled my diet soda! <cite>Dauntless Hunter posted [p:356504] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> From: Liquid Wind \| #023tough luck, this is the real world and not every animal gets to survive especially when they do nothing towards their own survival. this isn't some childrens cartoon, a society can't survive just having 10% of the population leeching off of everyone else perpetually."Kill the poor." -Liquid Wind -- Black Turtle spilled my diet soda! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 09/19/11 2:16:00 PM #28:	From: SmartMuffin \| #025 Nah. One of the main benefits of drug testing is that is acts as a deterrent. When people KNOW they're going to be tested, they're less likely to use drugs in the first place. Drug testing isn't just about kicking junkies off welfare, it's about giving people on welfare a major economic incentive to NOT use drugs. This pretty much. You don't want people on welfare doing drugs or they waste their welfare money on drugs, when they should be using it to, you know, feed their kids. -- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. <cite>KingButz posted [p:356505] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> From: SmartMuffin \| #025Nah. One of the main benefits of drug testing is that is acts as a deterrent. When people KNOW they're going to be tested, they're less likely to use drugs in the first place. Drug testing isn't just about kicking junkies off welfare, it's about giving people on welfare a major economic incentive to NOT use drugs.This pretty much. You don't want people on welfare doing drugs or they waste their welfare money on drugs, when they should be using it to, you know, feed their kids. -- My Japanese alter-ego.Hey all this is Bartz btw. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 09/19/11 2:20:00 PM #29:	If we're going to waste money on immoral welfare programs, the least we could do is waste it in a way that actually benefits people and might be a little bit effective. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized http://img.imgcake.com/gadsdenflaggifda.gif <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:356506] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> If we're going to waste money on immoral welfare programs, the least we could do is waste it in a way that actually benefits people and might be a little bit effective. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilizedhttp://img.imgcake.com/gadsdenflaggifda.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 09/19/11 2:20:00 PM #30:	From: Liquid Wind \| #029 not supporting people who are unproductive is not killing them, they are free to fend for themselves, they just have to make that choice. Of course because EVERYONE who is on Welfare is just choosing not to work -- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. <cite>KingButz posted [p:356507] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> From: Liquid Wind \| #029not supporting people who are unproductive is not killing them, they are free to fend for themselves, they just have to make that choice.Of course because EVERYONE who is on Welfare is just choosing not to work -- My Japanese alter-ego.Hey all this is Bartz btw. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 09/19/11 2:27:00 PM #31:	Any mandatory drug testing is a bad thing, because it gets people used to the idea. It's a stepping stone to mandatory drug testing for everyone. nah don't be ridiculous it's just like foolmo says, they'll be monitoring our blood directly. <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:356508] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Any mandatory drug testing is a bad thing, because it gets people used to the idea. It's a stepping stone to mandatory drug testing for everyone.nah don't be ridiculousit's just like foolmo says, they'll be monitoring our blood directly. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punch_Sideiron 09/19/11 2:27:00 PM #32:	Any mandatory drug testing is a bad thing, because it gets people used to the idea. It's a stepping stone to mandatory drug testing for everyone. Then once everyone is used to being tested for drugs, what's the big deal if they test for other things? Pre-existing medical conditions. Pregnancy. Anything. Then once you're used to them testing your pee, what's the big deal with blood, etc.? Edit: Crap, didn't look and just realized I posted in an Andel topic. Great. <cite>Punch_Sideiron posted [p:356509] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Any mandatory drug testing is a bad thing, because it gets people used to the idea. It's a stepping stone to mandatory drug testing for everyone.Then once everyone is used to being tested for drugs, what's the big deal if they test for other things? Pre-existing medical conditions. Pregnancy. Anything. Then once you're used to them testing your pee, what's the big deal with blood, etc.?Edit: Crap, didn't look and just realized I posted in an Andel topic. Great. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 09/19/11 2:28:00 PM #33:	Would Social Security Disability be considered an entitlement program? -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:356510] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Would Social Security Disability be considered an entitlement program? -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punch_Sideiron 09/19/11 2:29:00 PM #34:	*TheRock1525 posted...* Would Social Security Disability be considered an entitlement program? You pay into it, so it shouldn't be. <cite>Punch_Sideiron posted [p:356511] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> TheRock1525 posted...Would Social Security Disability be considered an entitlement program?You pay into it, so it shouldn't be. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 09/19/11 2:30:00 PM #35:	"Kill the poor." not supporting people who are unproductive is not killing them, they are free to fend for themselves, they just have to make that choice. also I'm poor(in the grand scheme of things almost everyone on this board is), there's a difference between being poor and being a leech. <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:356512] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> "Kill the poor."not supporting people who are unproductive is not killing them, they are free to fend for themselves, they just have to make that choice.also I'm poor(in the grand scheme of things almost everyone on this board is), there's a difference between being poor and being a leech. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 09/19/11 2:33:00 PM #36:	Alright, just curious. Cause without SSD, my dad would be so screwed. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:356513] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Alright, just curious. Cause without SSD, my dad would be so screwed. -- TheRock ~ Death By Misadventure, Not Suicide "Would've liked to see that." - Ayuyu on my boner </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoElfboy 09/19/11 2:40:00 PM #37:	Yeah, we should just cut social security programs entirely. Sure, most of the first-world countries (certainly including the ones with the highest qualify of life/standard of living) have more than us, but ** them, they don't know what they're doing anyway. Entitlements are destroying this country, Fox News told me so. Scrap 'em all. After all, what are the chances that the poor will increasingly turn to crime as they have no other options? They'll just all go get jobs like they should have all along, the slackers. -- The RPG Duelling League: www.rpgdl.com An unparalleled source for RPG information and discussion <cite>NeoElfboy posted [p:356514] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Yeah, we should just cut social security programs entirely. Sure, most of the first-world countries (certainly including the ones with the highest qualify of life/standard of living) have more than us, but ** them, they don't know what they're doing anyway. Entitlements are destroying this country, Fox News told me so. Scrap 'em all.After all, what are the chances that the poor will increasingly turn to crime as they have no other options? They'll just all go get jobs like they should have all along, the slackers. -- The RPG Duelling League: www.rpgdl.comAn unparalleled source for RPG information and discussion </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 09/19/11 2:45:00 PM #38:	but *** them, they don't know what they're doing anyway* Good point. I agree. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized http://img.imgcake.com/gadsdenflaggifda.gif <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:356515] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> but **** them, they don't know what they're doing anywayGood point. I agree. -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilizedhttp://img.imgcake.com/gadsdenflaggifda.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Silverliner182V 09/19/11 2:48:00 PM #39:	nothing wrong with socialism yo -- maybe, lol <cite>Silverliner182V posted [p:356516] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> nothing wrong with socialism yo -- maybe, lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Andel 09/19/11 4:25:00 PM #40:	Socialism is only good in theory...a country the size of America cannot sustain that kind of government. I really wish entitlements could be scrapped altogether, but I dont think that is a plausible possibility at this time. Programs such as social security have to stay in place for the time being, but regulations should be much more strict. -- . <cite>Andel posted [p:356517] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Socialism is only good in theory...a country the size of America cannot sustain that kind of government. I really wish entitlements could be scrapped altogether, but I dont think that is a plausible possibility at this time. Programs such as social security have to stay in place for the time being, but regulations should be much more strict. -- . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 09/19/11 4:39:00 PM #41:	1 give massive tax cuts to the most wealthy, creating the biggest income disparity of any first world nation and the biggest the US has ever seen. 2 you are now broke. cut social programs, while sneeringly calling them entitlements. your free ride ends here, poor people. 3 treat the poor people you just **ed over like second class citizens. the three step conservative america plan for success <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:356518] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> 1 give massive tax cuts to the most wealthy, creating the biggest income disparity of any first world nation and the biggest the US has ever seen.2 you are now broke. cut social programs, while sneeringly calling them entitlements. your free ride ends here, poor people.3 treat the poor people you just **ed over like second class citizens.the three step conservative america plan for success </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 09/19/11 4:40:00 PM #42:	This pretty much. You don't want people on welfare doing drugs or they waste their welfare money on drugs, when they should be using it to, you know, feed their kids. Not taking a side on the topic issue either way but I just want to point out that people should not be reproducing if they can't afford to feed their offspring >_> -- ya right you are case the sunglasses have 3d so i can see right threw their clothes -ertyu (about wearing sunglasses to stare at boobs without girls noticing) <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:356519] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> This pretty much. You don't want people on welfare doing drugs or they waste their welfare money on drugs, when they should be using it to, you know, feed their kids.Not taking a side on the topic issue either way but I just want to point out that people should not be reproducing if they can't afford to feed their offspring >_> -- ya right you are case the sunglasses have 3d so i can see right threw their clothes -ertyu(about wearing sunglasses to stare at boobs without girls noticing) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SmartMuffin 09/19/11 4:42:00 PM #43:	Tax cuts don't automatically lead you to become broke, MIB. You seem to have forgotten a step! -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized http://img.imgcake.com/gadsdenflaggifda.gif <cite>SmartMuffin posted [p:356520] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Tax cuts don't automatically lead you to become broke, MIB. You seem to have forgotten a step! -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilizedhttp://img.imgcake.com/gadsdenflaggifda.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 09/19/11 4:44:00 PM #44:	From: Liquid Wind \| #023 tax the rich more? good ***ing luck, all the politicians are in their pockets should start killing rich ppl imo. That would solve the problem. -- "WTF is wrong with my brain"* - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:356521] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> From: Liquid Wind \| #023tax the rich more? good ****ing luck, all the politicians are in their pocketsshould start killing rich ppl imo. That would solve the problem. -- "WTF is wrong with my brain" - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 09/19/11 4:46:00 PM #45:	Strongly against. If you don't want to hand out government entitlements, just end entitlements. Trying to stop "abuse" of the system is: 1. Immoral 2. Throwing money down the drain (and far far far moreso than the entitlements themselves, which are just pumped back into the economy when they are spent) 3. A stepping stone to less freedom 4. Doesn't even make sense, because the whole idea of entitlements it to give stuff away. How can you abuse a system that is supposed to give stuff to you? -- 90s games > 00s games <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:356522] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> Strongly against. If you don't want to hand out government entitlements, just end entitlements. Trying to stop "abuse" of the system is:1. Immoral2. Throwing money down the drain (and far far far moreso than the entitlements themselves, which are just pumped back into the economy when they are spent)3. A stepping stone to less freedom4. Doesn't even make sense, because the whole idea of entitlements it to give stuff away. How can you abuse a system that is supposed to give stuff to you? -- 90s games > 00s games </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 09/19/11 4:46:00 PM #46:	oh right I forgot. use the money you took from the middle class to fund corporate welfare and state bail outs of private industry. that's the step i was missing! we can afford to give the banks billions of dollars. we apparently cannot afford to let people get drug treatment or not starve to death, even though the cost is quite a bit lower. <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:356523] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> oh right I forgot. use the money you took from the middle class to fund corporate welfare and state bail outs of private industry. that's the step i was missing!we can afford to give the banks billions of dollars. we apparently cannot afford to let people get drug treatment or not starve to death, even though the cost is quite a bit lower. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 09/19/11 4:47:00 PM #47:	should start killing rich ppl imo. That would solve the problem. as much as most of them deserve it, I was thinking practical solutions here! <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:356524] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> should start killing rich ppl imo. That would solve the problem.as much as most of them deserve it, I was thinking practical solutions here! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 09/19/11 4:49:00 PM #48:	From: ImTheMacheteGuy \| #042 Not taking a side on the topic issue either way but I just want to point out that people should not be reproducing if they can't afford to feed their offspring >_> But that won't stop them from doing it! Too bad requiring licenses to breed is a huge breach of freedom and privacy... -- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. <cite>KingButz posted [p:356525] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> From: ImTheMacheteGuy \| #042Not taking a side on the topic issue either way but I just want to point out that people should not be reproducing if they can't afford to feed their offspring >_>But that won't stop them from doing it! Too bad requiring licenses to breed is a huge breach of freedom and privacy... -- My Japanese alter-ego.Hey all this is Bartz btw. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 09/19/11 4:50:00 PM #49:	From: Liquid Wind \| #047 should start killing rich ppl imo. That would solve the problem. as much as most of them deserve it, I was thinking practical solutions here! I was mostly being facetious but that is what will start happening if the country continues on this path. Poor people will turn to crime and everywhere is going to become gotham city. I am so glad that I plan on leaving this hell hole in the next five years. Will be fun to watch the place destroy itself from the outside for a change. -- "WTF is wrong with my brain" - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:356526] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> From: Liquid Wind \| #047should start killing rich ppl imo. That would solve the problem.as much as most of them deserve it, I was thinking practical solutions here!I was mostly being facetious but that is what will start happening if the country continues on this path. Poor people will turn to crime and everywhere is going to become gotham city.I am so glad that I plan on leaving this hell hole in the next five years. Will be fun to watch the place destroy itself from the outside for a change. -- "WTF is wrong with my brain" - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iamdead7 09/19/11 4:50:00 PM #50:	CLASS WARFARE CLASS WARFARE but wate taking all of the productivity gains over the last 30 years and giving it to the top 1% while decreasing the pay of the middle class during that time period is not class warfare, its just HARD HONEST WORKIN' -- The box says "Online Gameplay not rated by ESRB", I should be able to trade my phallic named Wobbufetts to a bunch of 8 year olds. - MarvelousGerbil <cite>Iamdead7 posted [p:356527] in Anyone acc... [t:60374181]...</cite> <quote> CLASS WARFARE CLASS WARFAREbut wate taking all of the productivity gains over the last 30 years and giving it to the top 1% while decreasing the pay of the middle class during that time period is not class warfare, its just HARD HONEST WORKIN' -- The box says "Online Gameplay not rated by ESRB", I should be able to trade my phallic named Wobbufetts to a bunch of 8 year olds. - MarvelousGerbil </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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