Board 8 > Valve's decided to move DotA 2's schedule WAY up.

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Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 2:19:00 AM #1:	http://blog.dota2.com/ Basically they're saying that everyone's frothing at the mouth to play the game, so they're going to let us. Beta's going to open up much more rapidly than planned, and I'm hearing that the NDA's already been lifted so streams should be going up really soon. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370622] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> http://blog.dota2.com/Basically they're saying that everyone's frothing at the mouth to play the game, so they're going to let us.Beta's going to open up much more rapidly than planned, and I'm hearing that the NDA's already been lifted so streams should be going up really soon. -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 2:26:00 AM #2:	http://streamdota2.com/ Oh hey look at that. Bunch of streams up already. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370623] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> http://streamdota2.com/Oh hey look at that.Bunch of streams up already. -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 2:36:00 AM #3:	Yessssss the store looks fantastic. We kinda already knew from that one pic but seeing a player scroll through it is "aww yeah". -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370624] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> Yessssss the store looks fantastic.We kinda already knew from that one pic but seeing a player scroll through it is "aww yeah". -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Real Truth 09/23/11 2:37:00 AM #4:	They should have moved the schedule way up from hopefully soon to right now. -- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>The Real Truth posted [p:370625] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> They should have moved the schedule way up from hopefully soon to right now. -- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Real Truth 09/23/11 2:38:00 AM #5:	I should just walk over to their office. -- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>The Real Truth posted [p:370626] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> I should just walk over to their office. -- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 2:39:00 AM #6:	From: The Real Truth \| #005 I should just walk over to their office. Worked out pretty well for the last folks that did! -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370627] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> From: The Real Truth \| #005I should just walk over to their office.Worked out pretty well for the last folks that did! -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Real Truth 09/23/11 2:42:00 AM #7:	I think I'd actually have to take the bus to get there. Apparently Valve was founded here, but they moved a city over. I'm guessing they're down in the area near Microsoft/Nintendo, which is in Redmond, but on the border of Bellevue. A bunch of businesses are over there. -- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>The Real Truth posted [p:370628] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> I think I'd actually have to take the bus to get there. Apparently Valve was founded here, but they moved a city over. I'm guessing they're down in the area near Microsoft/Nintendo, which is in Redmond, but on the border of Bellevue. A bunch of businesses are over there. -- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 2:43:00 AM #8:	From: The Real Truth \| #007 I think I'd actually have to take the bus to get there. Apparently Valve was founded here, but they moved a city over. I'm guessing they're down in the area near Microsoft/Nintendo are, which is in Redmond, but on the border of Bellevue. A bunch of businesses are over there. Lucky. The only gaming company I live near is Blizzard. That used to be pretty awesome, but it's gotten less so over the years. >_> I guess Obsidian's not that far, that's kinda cool. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370629] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> From: The Real Truth \| #007I think I'd actually have to take the bus to get there. Apparently Valve was founded here, but they moved a city over. I'm guessing they're down in the area near Microsoft/Nintendo are, which is in Redmond, but on the border of Bellevue. A bunch of businesses are over there.Lucky. The only gaming company I live near is Blizzard. That used to be pretty awesome, but it's gotten less so over the years. >_>I guess Obsidian's not that far, that's kinda cool. -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFaddict1313 09/23/11 2:43:00 AM #9:	iirc there were a couple of guys who camped outside of building with signs about episode 3 who got brought in and shown around, when almost any other company wouldve had security send them away -- http://img.imgcake.com/SonicStacking/dan2jpguq.jpg <cite>FFaddict1313 posted [p:370630] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> iirc there were a couple of guys who camped outside of building with signs about episode 3 who got brought in and shown around, when almost any other company wouldve had security send them away -- http://img.imgcake.com/SonicStacking/dan2jpguq.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 2:45:00 AM #10:	From: FFaddict1313 \| #009 iirc there were a couple of guys who camped outside of building with signs about episode 3 who got brought in and shown around, when almost any other company wouldve had security send them away They actually ordered them pizza and soda, then invited them in to play DotA 2 and get a tour. Then they hung out for a few days. Gabe's got a heart of gold.~ -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370631] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> From: FFaddict1313 \| #009iirc there were a couple of guys who camped outside of building with signs about episode 3 who got brought in and shown around, when almost any other company wouldve had security send them awayThey actually ordered them pizza and soda, then invited them in to play DotA 2 and get a tour. Then they hung out for a few days. Gabe's got a heart of gold.~ -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 2:49:00 AM #11:	Oh god, the stash. Item building looks smooth as silk, holy crap. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370632] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> Oh god, the stash.Item building looks smooth as silk, holy crap. -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFaddict1313 09/23/11 2:51:00 AM #12:	speaking of stashes -- http://img.imgcake.com/SonicStacking/dan2jpguq.jpg <cite>FFaddict1313 posted [p:370633] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> speaking of stashes -- http://img.imgcake.com/SonicStacking/dan2jpguq.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 2:58:00 AM #13:	Storm Spirit looks way better now that he's not bite-sized! -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370634] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> Storm Spirit looks way better now that he's not bite-sized! -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 12:29:00 PM #14:	Not nearly enough hype. Hype is literally replacing my blood. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370635] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> Not nearly enough hype.Hype is literally replacing my blood. -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biolizard28 09/23/11 12:39:00 PM #15:	Any word on whether it's F2P or not? I'm not even sure if it'll run on this computer and I'd hate to spend money on something I'm unable to play. Still, it's looking pretty good, should complement LoL nicely. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo Now this is entertainment! <cite>Biolizard28 posted [p:370636] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> Any word on whether it's F2P or not?I'm not even sure if it'll run on this computer and I'd hate to spend money on something I'm unable to play.Still, it's looking pretty good, should complement LoL nicely. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmoNow this is entertainment! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 12:43:00 PM #16:	From: Biolizard28 \| #015 Any word on whether it's F2P or not? I'm not even sure if it'll run on this computer and I'd hate to spend money on something I'm unable to play. Still, it's looking pretty good, should complement LoL nicely. No word yet. The last thing we heard from Gabe is that he wants to focus on making the game perfect before he figures out how to make money off of it, though he said F2P is definitely an option. The way things are looking now though, open beta will probably be going on for a really long time before release, as they slowly add heroes and polish towards the final "release". So if nothing else it'll be "free" for you to test on your computer for quite some time. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370637] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> From: Biolizard28 \| #015Any word on whether it's F2P or not?I'm not even sure if it'll run on this computer and I'd hate to spend money on something I'm unable to play.Still, it's looking pretty good, should complement LoL nicely.No word yet. The last thing we heard from Gabe is that he wants to focus on making the game perfect before he figures out how to make money off of it, though he said F2P is definitely an option.The way things are looking now though, open beta will probably be going on for a really long time before release, as they slowly add heroes and polish towards the final "release". So if nothing else it'll be "free" for you to test on your computer for quite some time. -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biolizard28 09/23/11 12:45:00 PM #17:	That's true. If I'm ever given access to the beta, that would be a good indicator. Regardless, I'm excited. LoL has been serving me well and I'm not going to abandon it for DotA, but I definitely want to try something new. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo Now this is entertainment! <cite>Biolizard28 posted [p:370638] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> That's true. If I'm ever given access to the beta, that would be a good indicator.Regardless, I'm excited. LoL has been serving me well and I'm not going to abandon it for DotA, but I definitely want to try something new. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmoNow this is entertainment! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_stingers_ 09/23/11 12:47:00 PM #18:	well thats cool -- Congrats Black Turtle! http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Apalachian <cite>_stingers_ posted [p:370639] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> well thats cool -- Congrats Black Turtle!http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Apalachian </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 12:51:00 PM #19:	Now that I think about it I could probably make another general topic, now that there'll always be something to dicuss thanks to steams being allowed now. Maybe I'll do that later. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370640] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> Now that I think about it I could probably make another general topic, now that there'll always be something to dicuss thanks to steams being allowed now. Maybe I'll do that later. -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ness26 09/23/11 1:03:00 PM #20:	I'm pretty excited. And I'll be surprised if they didn't go F2P at this point. They seem to have plenty of cosmetic changes in mind, and given how successful TF2 and LoL have been off of a microtransactions model I can definitely see DotA 2 following suit. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. <cite>Ness26 posted [p:370641] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> I'm pretty excited.And I'll be surprised if they didn't go F2P at this point. They seem to have plenty of cosmetic changes in mind, and given how successful TF2 and LoL have been off of a microtransactions model I can definitely see DotA 2 following suit. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 1:24:00 PM #21:	Maybe I'll wait on that general topic, flood of contest stuff incoming. >_> -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370642] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> Maybe I'll wait on that general topic, flood of contest stuff incoming. >_> -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 1:48:00 PM #22:	Hmm... just realized CM/Lina would actually be a decent nom! -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370643] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> Hmm... just realized CM/Lina would actually be a decent nom! -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Real Truth 09/23/11 4:30:00 PM #23:	I really hope Dota 2 at least has an initial fee. I really don't want to be stuck in games with people that have never played and just end up leaving after 15 minutes. -- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>The Real Truth posted [p:370644] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> I really hope Dota 2 at least has an initial fee. I really don't want to be stuck in games with people that have never played and just end up leaving after 15 minutes. -- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 4:40:00 PM #24:	The change in skill in the average TF2 player after it went free to play is so astronomical that it makes me think there should be a fee, too. At the same time I can't imagine people who are that bad will stick with a game like DotA for too long, it would probably get insanely frustrating getting stomped that often. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370645] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> The change in skill in the average TF2 player after it went free to play is so astronomical that it makes me think there should be a fee, too.At the same time I can't imagine people who are that bad will stick with a game like DotA for too long, it would probably get insanely frustrating getting stomped that often. -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Biolizard28 09/23/11 4:43:00 PM #25:	From: The Real Truth \| #023 I really hope Dota 2 at least has an initial fee. I really don't want to be stuck in games with people that have never played and just end up leaving after 15 minutes. I don't understand how this is such a prominent problem for people. I mean, I get that bad people will be attracted to a free game, but if you don't like it, you can just find a few guys to team up with for sure. I especially think it's unfair to act like these people are supposed to be on your level when they've probably never even heard of DotA, never mind played the original. Expecting them to be on par with you is a miscalculation on your part, yet they pay for it. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo Now this is entertainment! <cite>Biolizard28 posted [p:370646] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> From: The Real Truth \| #023I really hope Dota 2 at least has an initial fee. I really don't want to be stuck in games with people that have never played and just end up leaving after 15 minutes.I don't understand how this is such a prominent problem for people.I mean, I get that bad people will be attracted to a free game, but if you don't like it, you can just find a few guys to team up with for sure.I especially think it's unfair to act like these people are supposed to be on your level when they've probably never even heard of DotA, never mind played the original. Expecting them to be on par with you is a miscalculation on your part, yet they pay for it. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmoNow this is entertainment! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 4:44:00 PM #26:	The whole thing is kinda a non-issue really, so long as the matchmaking works as it should. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370647] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> The whole thing is kinda a non-issue really, so long as the matchmaking works as it should. -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 8:17:00 PM #27:	Contests are fun, but so is DotA hype! -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370648] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> Contests are fun, but so is DotA hype! -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 9:00:00 PM #28:	Dunno if anyone's been watching the streams but the way the launcher is set-up is pretty fantastic. You can select from a bunch of ongoing games to spectate, and you pop in like instantly. So you can queue up for a match and just watch some in-progress stuff while you wait, then it pulls you out when your match is ready. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370649] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> Dunno if anyone's been watching the streams but the way the launcher is set-up is pretty fantastic.You can select from a bunch of ongoing games to spectate, and you pop in like instantly. So you can queue up for a match and just watch some in-progress stuff while you wait, then it pulls you out when your match is ready. -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/23/11 9:09:00 PM #29:	Pretty legit play with equally great music going on at Merlini's stream. http://streamdota2.com/ -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370650] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> Pretty legit play with equally great music going on at Merlini's stream.http://streamdota2.com/ -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ness26 09/24/11 8:02:00 AM #30:	From: Biolizard28 \| #025 I don't understand how this is such a prominent problem for people. I mean, I get that bad people will be attracted to a free game, but if you don't like it, you can just find a few guys to team up with for sure. I especially think it's unfair to act like these people are supposed to be on your level when they've probably never even heard of DotA, never mind played the original. Expecting them to be on par with you is a miscalculation on your part, yet they pay for it. Being forced to find a team of 4 other people to play with to get decent matches shouldn't be required. DotA is a game where a bad player hurts more than having no player at all. Unless Valve's skill ranking system is really well polished, I think people's worries are justified. If the servers are flooded with bad players, it will be near impossible to get a good game unless you pre-make your team, in which case you'll be stomping every game and that doesn't really count as a "good game" either. Upon release I imagine Valve will do their best to sort out the different players. I know you pick your skill when you start, so hopefully their matchmaking can keep the groups separate. As for the streams, I've only found one time where I opened one and it was a DotA 2 game (once it was HoN, other times it was just blank). And watching just one player is a lot less interesting than being behind the observer camera like we saw in the tournaments. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. <cite>Ness26 posted [p:370651] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> From: Biolizard28 \| #025I don't understand how this is such a prominent problem for people.I mean, I get that bad people will be attracted to a free game, but if you don't like it, you can just find a few guys to team up with for sure.I especially think it's unfair to act like these people are supposed to be on your level when they've probably never even heard of DotA, never mind played the original. Expecting them to be on par with you is a miscalculation on your part, yet they pay for it.Being forced to find a team of 4 other people to play with to get decent matches shouldn't be required. DotA is a game where a bad player hurts more than having no player at all. Unless Valve's skill ranking system is really well polished, I think people's worries are justified. If the servers are flooded with bad players, it will be near impossible to get a good game unless you pre-make your team, in which case you'll be stomping every game and that doesn't really count as a "good game" either. Upon release I imagine Valve will do their best to sort out the different players. I know you pick your skill when you start, so hopefully their matchmaking can keep the groups separate.As for the streams, I've only found one time where I opened one and it was a DotA 2 game (once it was HoN, other times it was just blank). And watching just one player is a lot less interesting than being behind the observer camera like we saw in the tournaments. -- No amount of planning will ever replace dumb luck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 09/25/11 6:41:00 PM #31:	One more bump, I'll make a general topic later in the week. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:370652] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> One more bump, I'll make a general topic later in the week. -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OctilIery 09/25/11 6:54:00 PM #32:	*Biolizard28 posted...* From: The Real Truth \| #023 I really hope Dota 2 at least has an initial fee. I really don't want to be stuck in games with people that have never played and just end up leaving after 15 minutes. I don't understand how this is such a prominent problem for people. I mean, I get that bad people will be attracted to a free game, but if you don't like it, you can just find a few guys to team up with for sure. I especially think it's unfair to act like these people are supposed to be on your level when they've probably never even heard of DotA, never mind played the original. Expecting them to be on par with you is a miscalculation on your part, yet they pay for it. It's not really a bad thing, people just get high and mighty. Paying doesn't make you any better, nor does it prevent bad players from joining. -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! <cite>OctilIery posted [p:370653] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> Biolizard28 posted...From: The Real Truth \| #023I really hope Dota 2 at least has an initial fee. I really don't want to be stuck in games with people that have never played and just end up leaving after 15 minutes.I don't understand how this is such a prominent problem for people.I mean, I get that bad people will be attracted to a free game, but if you don't like it, you can just find a few guys to team up with for sure.I especially think it's unfair to act like these people are supposed to be on your level when they've probably never even heard of DotA, never mind played the original. Expecting them to be on par with you is a miscalculation on your part, yet they pay for it.It's not really a bad thing, people just get high and mighty. Paying doesn't make you any better, nor does it prevent bad players from joining. -- JoyrockFresh from my first justified ban. Ever! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Real Truth 09/25/11 7:02:00 PM #33:	If what Ness said exists, does exist, then that's at least a step in the right direction. Paying sure as hell will prevent more bad players from playing than making it free. It's not the long-term I'm worried about. It's the initial game. You're pretty much forced to play with your friends if you want to get anywhere ranked, unless you play a carry every game and your team isn't too terrible. If the game is free, what you get are people that are bad at it, specifically joining a match with the intent of ruining it. I watched this happen plenty of times in DotA. At least with HoN (when people were paying to play), while there were plenty of bad players, the amount of leavers was drastically reduced. And perhaps that's actually what I was trying to get at. It's not so much the bad players that bother as the people that leave the damn game 15 minutes in, or the people that want to concede after 10 minutes of barely losing. -- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>The Real Truth posted [p:370654] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> If what Ness said exists, does exist, then that's at least a step in the right direction.Paying sure as hell will prevent more bad players from playing than making it free. It's not the long-term I'm worried about. It's the initial game. You're pretty much forced to play with your friends if you want to get anywhere ranked, unless you play a carry every game and your team isn't too terrible.If the game is free, what you get are people that are bad at it, specifically joining a match with the intent of ruining it. I watched this happen plenty of times in DotA. At least with HoN (when people were paying to play), while there were plenty of bad players, the amount of leavers was drastically reduced.And perhaps that's actually what I was trying to get at. It's not so much the bad players that bother as the people that leave the damn game 15 minutes in, or the people that want to concede after 10 minutes of barely losing. -- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Azp2k32 09/25/11 7:08:00 PM #34:	Damn, shoulda taken some time to find/walk over to Valve last night. Just got home after spending the last 2 days in Bellevue. Stayed in a hotel right across from some Microsoft building too. -_- Coulda gotten myself an invite. -- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif <cite>Azp2k32 posted [p:370655] in Valve'... [t:60411090]...</cite> <quote> Damn, shoulda taken some time to find/walk over to Valve last night. Just got home after spending the last 2 days in Bellevue. Stayed in a hotel right across from some Microsoft building too. -_- Coulda gotten myself an invite. -- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Board 8 > Valve's decided to move DotA 2's schedule WAY up. (+) Yeah! (+)

Board 8 > Valve's decided to move DotA 2's schedule WAY up.