Board 8 > Most Powerful Fictional Character 2011: Dark Schneider vs. Rocky Balboai [MPFC]

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KanzarisKelshen
09/27/11 12:37:00 PM
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Past Results:
Though there were some arguments in favor of the wielder of the Word of God, in the end Time Trapper Prime's superior physical might and mastery over the timestream were enough to allow him to secure a comfortable victory. Votals: 11-5.

(2) Dark Schneider
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From Bastard!!, Dark Schneider is a powerful wizard. He is confident, cunning, and arrogant (to the point of allowing opponents to hit him with their best attacks before annihilating), and has access to a vast arsenal of powers.

Among his many attacks, some of the most remarkable ones are: Black Sabbath, which strikes the target with magical heat clocking in at millions of Celsius degrees, before transporting the target to another dimension; Dispelbound, which erases magical protections surrounding a target (but tends to fizzle when matched against someone whose magical might exceeds Dark Schneider's own powers); Bloodstone, which returns all the damage he suffers to his attacker; Giran Ira, which creates a micro-black hole that distorts space and allows for dimensional leaps, as well as possessing enough destructive potential to destroy a whole country; And All Guns Blazing, an attack that unleashes blasts of magic power, using all elements. Additionally, Dark Schneider possesses Eternal Atoms, which allow him to recover from all attacks, unless the wards that protect them are completely dismantled. Each of these wards is said to be able to absorb the brunt of a concentrated discharge of atomic energy for one hour before dissipating, and always cancels the attack which broke it, preventing any leftover force from affecting other wards.

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KanzarisKelshen
09/27/11 12:37:00 PM
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vs.

(7) Rocky Balboa
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From the Rocky series, Rocky Balboa is a legendary boxer and underdog. Balboa fights as a southpaw (left-handed). He is a hybrid fighter, possessing the qualities of an inside fighter, brawler, and swarmer. With the exception of his rematch against Clubber Lang (where he fights as an outside fighter), he often advances quickly upon his opponents, driving them into the ropes in order to attack the body.

Rocky is also renowned for his remarkable chin and heart, capable of absorbing a multitude of even the hardest hits without falling — an attribute he often employs on purpose to wear down his opponents, sacrificing defensive strategy to land his own punches. These qualities, in concert, helped land him a high percentage of KO victories over the course of his career.

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KanzarisKelshen
09/27/11 12:38:00 PM
#3:


No offense to Sir Chris, who made the original Darsh writeup, but boy am I happy that I went back to do a last-second doublecheck on facts - The original Darsh writeup is woefully incomplete. This one is missing some stuff too, but at least it paints a half-decent picture of him, though it omits speed/endurance values and such.

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GenesisTwilight
09/27/11 12:38:00 PM
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Darsh

Next.

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KanzarisKelshen
09/27/11 12:45:00 PM
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One of these days I really need to read Bastard!! - the powerscaling on that series defies categorization. His low-end feats at the start are so weak that Batman (basic, no frills, no prep Batman) could potentially take him down, and close to the end, he fires blasts capable of unraveling portions of the universe. If nothing else I imagine it would be a terrific 'popcorn' series.

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Some_Character
09/27/11 12:46:00 PM
#6:


Have these two met in an MPFC setting before?

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KanzarisKelshen
09/27/11 12:48:00 PM
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From: Some_Character | #006
Have these two met in an MPFC setting before?


Nope. Rocky has never faced the MPFC 'defending champion' before AFAIK.

(Yes, this means Rocky is the underdog against the guy with a championship belt. Eerily similar to the plot of his movies, isn't it?)

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Some_Character
09/27/11 12:49:00 PM
#8:


Darsh.

Rematch hax doesn't apply if it's no rematch.

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Kinglicious
09/27/11 12:50:00 PM
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Yeah, it starts tame and then he goes to hell. At that point judas pains get introduced and from there nothing makes sense anymore

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Shoenin_Kakashi
09/27/11 12:51:00 PM
#10:


any montages?

Darsh still wins regardless, but the above question asks if Rocky can go the distance.

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KanzarisKelshen
09/27/11 12:52:00 PM
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From: Shoenin_Kakashi | #010
any montages?

Darsh still wins regardless, but the above question asks if Rocky can go the distance.


One per match since Rocky's last appearance. Alternatively, "as many as you deem reasonable".

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TheConductorSix
09/27/11 12:54:00 PM
#12:


Does Rocky get any montages? I can't tote until this is answered.

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Kamekguy
09/27/11 12:55:00 PM
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Has anyone who has beaten Rocky fought against and lost to Darsh? Preferably badly and humiliatingly to the point of death?

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Pirateking2000
09/27/11 1:05:00 PM
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Whenever I hear of Darsh he is usually described as either

"somewhat broken / very high tier marvel" or "Holy **** WTF Broken"

however it will depend if Rocky has had montages / faced Darsh before.

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KanzarisKelshen
09/27/11 1:09:00 PM
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From: Pirateking2000 | #014
Whenever I hear of Darsh he is usually described as either

"somewhat broken / very high tier marvel" or "Holy **** WTF Broken"

however it will depend if Rocky has had montages / faced Darsh before.


He's the latter. He's "the bruiser your entrant could be like" - through sheer oomph and ridiculous feats, he can challenge reality warpers.

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redrocket
09/27/11 1:49:00 PM
#16:


Darsh

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GANON1025
09/27/11 1:52:00 PM
#17:


Darsh

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Silverliner182V
09/27/11 2:00:00 PM
#18:


Rocky.

Peak power means a montage. Darsh does not possibly stand a chance.

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Pirateking2000
09/27/11 2:19:00 PM
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His low-end feats at the start are so weak that Batman (basic, no frills, no prep Batman) could potentially take him down

Yeah I remember seeing an ep of bastard and Darsh (assuming it was the right guy) just seemed like a regular / uber warrior with an Overlord Zetta style attitude.

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muddersmilk
09/27/11 2:22:00 PM
#20:


Darsh

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Shadowmoon30
09/27/11 3:04:00 PM
#21:


I also need to know does Rocky get a training montage since that is him at his peak power.

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GANON1025
09/27/11 3:06:00 PM
#22:


I know we all like to joke around about Rocky and all, and that's fine, but there is actually literally no way Rocky could train hard enough and beat Darsh. Like, it's physically impossible in every possible and conceivable manner.

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ChichiriMuyo
09/27/11 3:19:00 PM
#23:


Darsh

Voting for Rocky here is ridiculous.

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Shadowmoon30
09/27/11 3:21:00 PM
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Yeah all joking side got to vote for Darsh that is unless someone could argue in a mind blowing fashion to convince me that Rocky would win this match up somehow.

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DeathChicken
09/27/11 3:21:00 PM
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Rocky. If he could beat Unicron, this isn't much

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Haguile
09/27/11 3:23:00 PM
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From: KanzarisKelshen | Posted: 9/27/2011 3:52:24 PM | #011
One per match since Rocky's last appearance. Alternatively, "as many as you deem reasonable".


WAIT. One montage per match since Rocky's last appearance? That's A LOT. How much is his power increased per montage?

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redrocket
09/27/11 3:24:00 PM
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Rocky didn't beat Unicron.

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Pirateking2000
09/27/11 3:39:00 PM
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bump

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Durandi
09/27/11 3:42:00 PM
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Darsh

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Mumei
09/27/11 4:01:00 PM
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Dark Schneider


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KanzarisKelshen
09/27/11 4:09:00 PM
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From: Haguile | #026
WAIT. One montage per match since Rocky's last appearance? That's A LOT. How much is his power increased per montage?


Standard Montage Boosting. Which was...a doubling IIRC?

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redrocket
09/27/11 4:11:00 PM
#32:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
From: Haguile | #026
WAIT. One montage per match since Rocky's last appearance? That's A LOT. How much is his power increased per montage?
Standard Montage Boosting. Which was...a doubling IIRC?


It's definitely not a doubling going by the movies. If it was a literal doubling than Rocky would have OHKO'd all of his opponents.

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KanzarisKelshen
09/27/11 4:13:00 PM
#33:


From: redrocket | #032
KanzarisKelshen posted...
From: Haguile | #026
WAIT. One montage per match since Rocky's last appearance? That's A LOT. How much is his power increased per montage?
Standard Montage Boosting. Which was...a doubling IIRC?


It's definitely not a doubling going by the movies. If it was a literal doubling than Rocky would have OHKO'd all of his opponents.


Look at Rocky 3 though. He went from not being even close to Lang's level to demolishing him.

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DeathChicken
09/27/11 4:13:00 PM
#34:


Not really. If standard Rocky put up a fight against Clubber Lang, but lost, then got one montage, doubling his power wouldn't have seen him OHKOing Clubber. You'd get...kind of what you got when he beat Clubber

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KanzarisKelshen
09/27/11 4:14:00 PM
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From: DeathChicken | #034
Not really. If standard Rocky put up a fight against Clubber Lang, but lost, then got one montage, doubling his power wouldn't have seen him OHKOing Clubber. You'd get...kind of what you got when he beat Clubber


Man, I think this the first time I've ninja'd someone in, like, a year. And what a topic to do that with.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
09/27/11 4:16:00 PM
#36:


I thought Rocky was rusty/out of whack when he fought Lang.

Worrying about Mickey and all and having some dilema....wait a minute

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DeathChicken
09/27/11 4:19:00 PM
#37:


The first Clubber fight was when he had his head up his own ass in regards to suddenly being a celebrity. He wasn't taking it entirely seriously, and Clubber beat the snot out of him. I think Mickey had a heart attack and died right afterward

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Drakeryn
09/27/11 4:20:00 PM
#38:


Darsh


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redrocket
09/27/11 4:22:00 PM
#39:


DeathChicken posted...
Not really. If standard Rocky put up a fight against Clubber Lang, but lost, then got one montage, doubling his power wouldn't have seen him OHKOing Clubber. You'd get...kind of what you got when he beat Clubber

You are vastly underestimating how big an effect "doubling" a man's strength, endurance, and speed is if you think this.

Take what he can bench press, dead lift, squat, etc. Now double it. Take his running/punching speed and double it. Double his cardiovascular endurance. Rocky is not some weakling; he's already starting out above average in all these categories. "Doubling" them turns him into a monster. His fight against Clubber would have lasted five seconds in this case.

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DeathChicken
09/27/11 4:23:00 PM
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This isn't taking into account how equally stupid Rocky's opponents are. Like Drago, who can punch with the force of a shotgun

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Shoenin_Kakashi
09/27/11 4:24:00 PM
#41:


....great scott

Why am I barely learning now Mickey = The Penguin?!

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WickIebee
09/27/11 4:51:00 PM
#42:


I really just have to add this...

arrogant (to the point of allowing opponents to hit him with their best attacks before annihilating)

... Rocky once allowed this would beat the **** out of Schneider... but... not knock out right away (idiot boxers)

Bloodstone then storm of crap destroying Rocky... Match goes to Schnieder

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Natwaf_akidna
09/27/11 5:48:00 PM
#43:


Darsh.

Come on people.

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Pirateking2000
09/27/11 8:01:00 PM
#44:


boredom bump

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Panthera
09/27/11 8:35:00 PM
#45:


I vote Rocky and also for every single character who can't possibly win their match

Darsh

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Pirateking2000
09/27/11 8:55:00 PM
#46:


Meh since there isn't much debating at the moment random off topic mention

Hey DeathChicken next mpfc I may help you get Saint of Killers in just cause I thought of a possibly hilarious scenario he could cause if certain things happen.

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DeathChicken
09/28/11 2:30:00 AM
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Saint of Killers is hilarious in general

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Achromatic
09/28/11 2:42:00 AM
#48:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #003
No offense to Sir Chris, who made the original Darsh writeup, but boy am I happy that I went back to do a last-second doublecheck on facts - The original Darsh writeup is woefully incomplete. This one is missing some stuff too, but at least it paints a half-decent picture of him, though it omits speed/endurance values and such.


I don't even remember writing a Darsh write up tbh.

Darsh.

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Chrono1219
09/28/11 2:48:00 AM
#49:


Darsh

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Silencer S
09/28/11 8:02:00 AM
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Darsh

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