Board 8 > Most Powerful Fictional Character 2011: NoN Lelouch vs. Agent Smith [MPFC]

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KanzarisKelshen 10/01/11 4:58:00 PM #1:	The Rules: -Matches will last exactly 24 hours. Votes after that much time has elapsed will not be counted, even if a new topic hasn't gone up yet. -This is a contest to determine which character is the most powerful. Vote only for the character you think would win in a fight, not the one who's funnier, cooler, or sexier. If you don't do that I can't count your vote. -BOLD YOUR VOTE. Unbolded votes will NOT be counted. -Rallying is allowed. Alts are not. -Fights will take place in a neutral terrain. This does not necessarily mean a featureless terrain: assume that both characters will have a chance to use all of their skills to the fullest here, barring setting-specific abilities and anything that requires the presence of multiple enemies (but see below). -Characters start the fight alone. They don't bring allies with them, like Kerrigan and the Zerg Swarm for instance. Summons are allowed though, provided they're brought once combat has started. -Fighters retain their usual personalities. They won't fight to kill unless that's their MO, and won't spam their best attacks to win unless, again, that's how they act in their original media. -Similarly, fighters are unaware of their opponents capabilities at the start of the fight unless their powers facilitate them information (like knowing all there is to know in the universe - this would include who the opponent is and what he can do, as well as weaknesses) -You don't have to justify your vote, but it helps. If you feel like you can add something to the debate, go right ahead! -Seriously, BOLD THE VOTE. So important it bears repeating. -Bracket Link, for viewing past results and future matches: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?&tid=408528&tclass= Past Results: In spite of being an absolute stomp, voteswise, the battle between Anti-Spiral and Kurama was hotly debated. In the end, even the former's arrogance and the latter's resourcefulness wasn't enough to overcome the titanic power difference between them. Votals: 16-1. (2) NoN Lelouch From Code Geass: Nightmare of Nunally, Lelouch is a brilliant strategist who leads a rebellion against the Britannian Empire. Lelouch's special Geass ability gives him access to an suit of armor that enhances all of his natural physical abilities to the point of allowing him to dodge and fight giant robots. He has access to the special DOM system to disable any electronic devices or vehicles surrounding him, as well as strong telekinesis, able to stop attacks like an array of projectiles 360 degrees around him traveling faster than the speed of sound. Lelouch's armor grants him amazing defenses, protecting him from attacks ranging from being punched by giant robots to being shot by an array of weapons (from hand guns to giant lasers) to no effect. Lelouch can even shrug off the pseudo-magical Geass abilities that are used against him. The armor's cape can act as an additional shield and can be used as a weapon as well. Lelouch can summon his robot, Gawain, at any time. This robot is the same as the one seen in Code Geass, armed with a wide variety of laser attacks and capable of flight. (Cont) -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:406445] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> The Rules:-Matches will last exactly 24 hours. Votes after that much time has elapsed will not be counted, even if a new topic hasn't gone up yet.-This is a contest to determine which character is the most powerful. Vote only for the character you think would win in a fight, not the one who's funnier, cooler, or sexier. If you don't do that I can't count your vote.-BOLD YOUR VOTE. Unbolded votes will NOT be counted.-Rallying is allowed. Alts are not.-Fights will take place in a neutral terrain. This does not necessarily mean a featureless terrain: assume that both characters will have a chance to use all of their skills to the fullest here, barring setting-specific abilities and anything that requires the presence of multiple enemies (but see below).-Characters start the fight alone. They don't bring allies with them, like Kerrigan and the Zerg Swarm for instance. Summons are allowed though, provided they're brought once combat has started.-Fighters retain their usual personalities. They won't fight to kill unless that's their MO, and won't spam their best attacks to win unless, again, that's how they act in their original media.-Similarly, fighters are unaware of their opponents capabilities at the start of the fight unless their powers facilitate them information (like knowing all there is to know in the universe - this would include who the opponent is and what he can do, as well as weaknesses)-You don't have to justify your vote, but it helps. If you feel like you can add something to the debate, go right ahead!-Seriously, BOLD THE VOTE. So important it bears repeating.-Bracket Link, for viewing past results and future matches: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?&tid=408528&tclass=Past Results:In spite of being an absolute stomp, voteswise, the battle between Anti-Spiral and Kurama was hotly debated. In the end, even the former's arrogance and the latter's resourcefulness wasn't enough to overcome the titanic power difference between them. Votals: 16-1.(2) NoN LelouchFrom Code Geass: Nightmare of Nunally, Lelouch is a brilliant strategist who leads a rebellion against the Britannian Empire. Lelouch's special Geass ability gives him access to an suit of armor that enhances all of his natural physical abilities to the point of allowing him to dodge and fight giant robots. He has access to the special DOM system to disable any electronic devices or vehicles surrounding him, as well as strong telekinesis, able to stop attacks like an array of projectiles 360 degrees around him traveling faster than the speed of sound.Lelouch's armor grants him amazing defenses, protecting him from attacks ranging from being punched by giant robots to being shot by an array of weapons (from hand guns to giant lasers) to no effect. Lelouch can even shrug off the pseudo-magical Geass abilities that are used against him. The armor's cape can act as an additional shield and can be used as a weapon as well. Lelouch can summon his robot, Gawain, at any time. This robot is the same as the one seen in Code Geass, armed with a wide variety of laser attacks and capable of flight.(Cont) -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 10/01/11 4:58:00 PM #2:	vs. (7) Agent Smith From The Matrix, Agent Smith is an AI programmed to maintain order and punish disorder in the fictional reality of the Matrix. Though he first appears very business-like and focused on pragmatism, Smith becomes significantly more individualistic than other Agents, exhibiting emotions such as sadism, rage, and sense of purpose. Smith has the ability to overtake any virtual human body in the Matrix. He can manipulate the Matrix to grant himself speed and strength beyond the capabilities of other humans; he can dodge bullets, punch through concrete, and jump large distances, and exhibits limited combat precognition. Smith’s weapon of choice is a Desert Eagle handgun. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:406446] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> vs.(7) Agent SmithFrom The Matrix, Agent Smith is an AI programmed to maintain order and punish disorder in the fictional reality of the Matrix. Though he first appears very business-like and focused on pragmatism, Smith becomes significantly more individualistic than other Agents, exhibiting emotions such as sadism, rage, and sense of purpose.Smith has the ability to overtake any virtual human body in the Matrix. He can manipulate the Matrix to grant himself speed and strength beyond the capabilities of other humans; he can dodge bullets, punch through concrete, and jump large distances, and exhibits limited combat precognition. Smith’s weapon of choice is a Desert Eagle handgun. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 10/01/11 5:00:00 PM #3:	He has access to the special DOM system to disable any electronic devices Well, that seems bad for Smith -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:406447] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> He has access to the special DOM system to disable any electronic devicesWell, that seems bad for Smith -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/01/11 5:00:00 PM #4:	First, some feats: This is during the second big battle for Zero and his team. Zero and a handful of extra guys takes out 60% of the enemy's robot forces. These robots are destroyed, not just disabled. You see Zero taking out a couple of guys in the first scan. Two high-ranking generals of the enemy army then charge at Zero. Zero dodges these attacks and uses his DOM system and his cape attack to disable the two robots. The last scan show Zero taking out the highest-ranking officer and her robot by disabling it at a distance. This is Zero fighting the Lancelot, probably the best or second-best robot in the manga. The Lancelot kicks Zero in the stomach and send him flying into a ruined building in the distance. Zero takes no damage from the attack. Zero's cape attack is also seen in better detail; it sends out large tendrils that can slice through robots. These scans show Zero dodging the Lancelot and getting behind the robot faster than the pilot can see. Zero can use his powers to do telekinesis as well. This scene is from a later fight in the manga. The enemy fires missiles that shoot out large balls in all directions at faster than the speed of sound. Zero easily stops all these balls (although we can't see all around him we can assume he stopped them all since he doesn't get hit). He then proceeds to almost teleport behind the enemy and shoot the balls back at her at what looks like the same speed. Zero is shown to be invincible, from ordinary weapons... .... as well as from huge robot guns. Another look at Zero's cape attack. Zero is also shown to be resistant to Geass abilities. Zero's enemy has the ability to freeze anything, even time. Zero's hand is frozen, and the enemy shoots him point blank with a gun mounted on his robot's arm. Zero is unaffected by this attack and in the next scene, his hand is perfectly fine. Zero can summon his robot, Gawain, simply out by saying its name. This is explained as a quantum shift, an ability both Zero and his brother are shown doing. One of Gawain's attacks, a giant laser that comes out from one of the robot's shoulders (both shoulders can shoot this laser). Gawain can also fly. This Gawain (and really, every robot in NoN save for the new ones) appears identical to the Gawain in the anime, so anything the anime Gawain could do this Gawain should be able to do as well. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:406448] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> First, some feats:This is during the second big battle for Zero and his team. Zero and a handful of extra guys takes out 60% of the enemy's robot forces. These robots are destroyed, not just disabled. You see Zero taking out a couple of guys in the first scan. Two high-ranking generals of the enemy army then charge at Zero. Zero dodges these attacks and uses his DOM system and his cape attack to disable the two robots. The last scan show Zero taking out the highest-ranking officer and her robot by disabling it at a distance.This is Zero fighting the Lancelot, probably the best or second-best robot in the manga. The Lancelot kicks Zero in the stomach and send him flying into a ruined building in the distance. Zero takes no damage from the attack. Zero's cape attack is also seen in better detail; it sends out large tendrils that can slice through robots.These scans show Zero dodging the Lancelot and getting behind the robot faster than the pilot can see.Zero can use his powers to do telekinesis as well. This scene is from a later fight in the manga. The enemy fires missiles that shoot out large balls in all directions at faster than the speed of sound. Zero easily stops all these balls (although we can't see all around him we can assume he stopped them all since he doesn't get hit). He then proceeds to almost teleport behind the enemy and shoot the balls back at her at what looks like the same speed.Zero is shown to be invincible, from ordinary weapons....... as well as from huge robot guns.Another look at Zero's cape attack.Zero is also shown to be resistant to Geass abilities. Zero's enemy has the ability to freeze anything, even time. Zero's hand is frozen, and the enemy shoots him point blank with a gun mounted on his robot's arm. Zero is unaffected by this attack and in the next scene, his hand is perfectly fine.Zero can summon his robot, Gawain, simply out by saying its name. This is explained as a quantum shift, an ability both Zero and his brother are shown doing.One of Gawain's attacks, a giant laser that comes out from one of the robot's shoulders (both shoulders can shoot this laser). Gawain can also fly. This Gawain (and really, every robot in NoN save for the new ones) appears identical to the Gawain in the anime, so anything the anime Gawain could do this Gawain should be able to do as well. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 10/01/11 5:02:00 PM #5:	Lelouch showings: Leaving this one to GANON1025, who has scans of the manga available. Smith Showings: -Capable of super (hyper?)sonic flight, with realistic implications. Use of this flight ability by Neo caused a massive sonic boom and dragged things in its wake, shattering all the glasses of the streets he passed by and creating a vortex of scrap. Smith has equivalent abilities to Neo in that department, so it can be used as a showing for him. Later on, a flight-boosted cross counter causes water to expand in a shockwave around Smith and Neo, briefly stopping the pouring rain from falling. -Can dodge practically any ranged attack that isn't absolutely massive. Retains agent dodging skills. -Limited precognition from absorbing The Oracle. -Absorption skills, which turn the target into another Smith clone. Vids forthcoming. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:406449] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Lelouch showings:Leaving this one to GANON1025, who has scans of the manga available.Smith Showings:-Capable of super (hyper?)sonic flight, with realistic implications. Use of this flight ability by Neo caused a massive sonic boom and dragged things in its wake, shattering all the glasses of the streets he passed by and creating a vortex of scrap. Smith has equivalent abilities to Neo in that department, so it can be used as a showing for him. Later on, a flight-boosted cross counter causes water to expand in a shockwave around Smith and Neo, briefly stopping the pouring rain from falling.-Can dodge practically any ranged attack that isn't absolutely massive. Retains agent dodging skills.-Limited precognition from absorbing The Oracle.-Absorption skills, which turn the target into another Smith clone.Vids forthcoming. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/01/11 5:02:00 PM #6:	Second, that writeup doesn't have all of Lelouch's abilities. When C.C. dies Lelouch inherits her powers, becoming the Demon King. This gives him three specific abilities: Immortality, Ability to give Geass powers to anyone, and Ability to use any Geass power shown previous. His immortality is in the form of quick regeneration, another character with the same immortality gets his head cut off, then instantly regrows it. Lelouch gets a plethora of extra Geass powers to use, including: "The Speed" (allows him to hyper-accelerate all objects within a given radius by manipulating gravitational pulls, gives supersonic speed and reflexes to himself and his robot) "The Power" (increases physical strength even more, can be used in conjuction with robots to increase their power as well) "The Land" (can accurately map any terrain in sight instantly in their mind) "The Order" (precognition/futuresight, can accurately identify the positions of targets within a given range and precisely calculates their probable movement trajectories) "The Ice" (able to freeze anything, even time) "The Refrain" (Mao's geass power, allows him to read the minds of anyone within a 500 meter radius and 300 meter high, either all at once or from a specific individual if he concentrates, though his range is reduced when he focuses on a single target) "The Dead Rise" (another form of immortality, can use it to resurrect others as well) - can read the futures of people around him (precognition of the next few events and full future reading) - can grow wings and fly. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:406450] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Second, that writeup doesn't have all of Lelouch's abilities.When C.C. dies Lelouch inherits her powers, becoming the Demon King. This gives him three specific abilities: Immortality, Ability to give Geass powers to anyone, and Ability to use any Geass power shown previous. His immortality is in the form of quick regeneration, another character with the same immortality gets his head cut off, then instantly regrows it. Lelouch gets a plethora of extra Geass powers to use, including:"The Speed" (allows him to hyper-accelerate all objects within a given radius by manipulating gravitational pulls, gives supersonic speed and reflexes to himself and his robot)"The Power" (increases physical strength even more, can be used in conjuction with robots to increase their power as well)"The Land" (can accurately map any terrain in sight instantly in their mind)"The Order" (precognition/futuresight, can accurately identify the positions of targets within a given range and precisely calculates their probable movement trajectories)"The Ice" (able to freeze anything, even time)"The Refrain" (Mao's geass power, allows him to read the minds of anyone within a 500 meter radius and 300 meter high, either all at once or from a specific individual if he concentrates, though his range is reduced when he focuses on a single target)"The Dead Rise" (another form of immortality, can use it to resurrect others as well) - can read the futures of people around him (precognition of the next few events and full future reading)- can grow wings and fly. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 10/01/11 5:02:00 PM #7:	From: DeathChicken \| #003 He has access to the special DOM system to disable any electronic devices Well, that seems bad for Smith Smith isn't a device though. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:406451] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> From: DeathChicken \| #003He has access to the special DOM system to disable any electronic devicesWell, that seems bad for SmithSmith isn't a device though. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 10/01/11 5:03:00 PM #8:	From: GANON1025 \| #006 Second, that writeup doesn't have all of Lelouch's abilities. When C.C. dies Lelouch inherits her powers, becoming the Demon King. This gives him three specific abilities: Immortality, Ability to give Geass powers to anyone, and Ability to use any Geass power shown previous. His immortality is in the form of quick regeneration, another character with the same immortality gets his head cut off, then instantly regrows it. Lelouch gets a plethora of extra Geass powers to use, including: "The Speed" (allows him to hyper-accelerate all objects within a given radius by manipulating gravitational pulls, gives supersonic speed and reflexes to himself and his robot) "The Power" (increases physical strength even more, can be used in conjuction with robots to increase their power as well) "The Land" (can accurately map any terrain in sight instantly in their mind) "The Order" (precognition/futuresight, can accurately identify the positions of targets within a given range and precisely calculates their probable movement trajectories) "The Ice" (able to freeze anything, even time) "The Refrain" (Mao's geass power, allows him to read the minds of anyone within a 500 meter radius and 300 meter high, either all at once or from a specific individual if he concentrates, though his range is reduced when he focuses on a single target) "The Dead Rise" (another form of immortality, can use it to resurrect others as well) - can read the futures of people around him (precognition of the next few events and full future reading) - can grow wings and fly. This was not included because of lack of showings. You can theorize that he has access to these abilities but nothing proves them. I stuck to provable abilities for writeups. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:406452] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> From: GANON1025 \| #006Second, that writeup doesn't have all of Lelouch's abilities.When C.C. dies Lelouch inherits her powers, becoming the Demon King. This gives him three specific abilities: Immortality, Ability to give Geass powers to anyone, and Ability to use any Geass power shown previous. His immortality is in the form of quick regeneration, another character with the same immortality gets his head cut off, then instantly regrows it. Lelouch gets a plethora of extra Geass powers to use, including:"The Speed" (allows him to hyper-accelerate all objects within a given radius by manipulating gravitational pulls, gives supersonic speed and reflexes to himself and his robot)"The Power" (increases physical strength even more, can be used in conjuction with robots to increase their power as well)"The Land" (can accurately map any terrain in sight instantly in their mind)"The Order" (precognition/futuresight, can accurately identify the positions of targets within a given range and precisely calculates their probable movement trajectories)"The Ice" (able to freeze anything, even time)"The Refrain" (Mao's geass power, allows him to read the minds of anyone within a 500 meter radius and 300 meter high, either all at once or from a specific individual if he concentrates, though his range is reduced when he focuses on a single target)"The Dead Rise" (another form of immortality, can use it to resurrect others as well) - can read the futures of people around him (precognition of the next few events and full future reading)- can grow wings and fly.This was not included because of lack of showings. You can theorize that he has access to these abilities but nothing proves them. I stuck to provable abilities for writeups. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/01/11 5:05:00 PM #9:	That's fine, I suppose. Lelouch literally says he has all of C.C.'s abilities, and goes one to say he's immortal and that he (as an example) has access to Nunally's geass power. Also he is shown flying. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:406453] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> That's fine, I suppose. Lelouch literally says he has all of C.C.'s abilities, and goes one to say he's immortal and that he (as an example) has access to Nunally's geass power. Also he is shown flying. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/01/11 5:05:00 PM #10:	Think Smith could hack Lelouch's uber suit? (or if we are getting into this Demon King lelouch would he even use that armor?) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406454] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Think Smith could hack Lelouch's uber suit? (or if we are getting into this Demon King lelouch would he even use that armor?) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/01/11 5:06:00 PM #11:	Also, Lelouch has questionable past reading. He reads the past of the opponent, and tells him something the opponent doesn't even know. I say it's questionable because I don't really remember how he uses it and I may be mis-remembering, so if anyone else has read the manga I would like some input. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:406455] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Also, Lelouch has questionable past reading. He reads the past of the opponent, and tells him something the opponent doesn't even know. I say it's questionable because I don't really remember how he uses it and I may be mis-remembering, so if anyone else has read the manga I would like some input. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/01/11 5:07:00 PM #12:	Demon King Lelouch is shown wearing the suit. The suit isn't mechanical in the way your thinking about, it's a manifestation of one of his Geass powers and it's more magical/ethereal. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:406456] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Demon King Lelouch is shown wearing the suit. The suit isn't mechanical in the way your thinking about, it's a manifestation of one of his Geass powers and it's more magical/ethereal. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/01/11 5:09:00 PM #13:	ah ok then so its like Berserk armor sort of (yknow minus the whole horrible bloodlust thing) Don't know if some of the geass moves would really be effectual against Smith (the past reading if that is even it etc) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406457] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> ah ok then so its like Berserk armor sort of (yknow minus the whole horrible bloodlust thing)Don't know if some of the geass moves would really be effectual against Smith (the past reading if that is even it etc) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/01/11 5:15:00 PM #14:	Here's an excerpt talking about the Demon King and immortality: http://www.mangafox.com/manga/code_geass_nightmare_of_nunnally/v05/c026/10.html http://www.mangafox.com/manga/code_geass_nightmare_of_nunnally/v05/c026/11.html http://www.mangafox.com/manga/code_geass_nightmare_of_nunnally/v05/c026/14.html http://www.mangafox.com/manga/code_geass_nightmare_of_nunnally/v05/c026/23.html -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:406458] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Here's an excerpt talking about the Demon King and immortality:http://www.mangafox.com/manga/code_geass_nightmare_of_nunnally/v05/c026/10.htmlhttp://www.mangafox.com/manga/code_geass_nightmare_of_nunnally/v05/c026/11.htmlhttp://www.mangafox.com/manga/code_geass_nightmare_of_nunnally/v05/c026/14.htmlhttp://www.mangafox.com/manga/code_geass_nightmare_of_nunnally/v05/c026/23.html -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/01/11 5:26:00 PM #15:	Hmm Agent Smith is basically like superman (no I don't mean uber broken Superman) and required to be uber hacked by the machine leader to be defeated. Neo wailed the ** out of him and then he just got back up pissed. Main peak power smith doesn't bother using firearms so we don't really have to go into that I think I forget could he summon adds (aside from other agents)? -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406459] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Hmm Agent Smith is basically like superman (no I don't mean uber broken Superman) and required to be uber hacked by the machine leader to be defeated. Neo wailed the out of him and then he just got back up pissed. Main peak power smith doesn't bother using firearms so we don't really have to go into that I thinkI forget could he summon adds (aside from other agents)? -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/01/11 5:47:00 PM #16:	bump for discussion -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406460] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> bump for discussion -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/01/11 6:50:00 PM #17:	boredom bump -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406461] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> boredom bump -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 10/01/11 7:12:00 PM #18:	Would Lelouch's DOM work against Smith? (assuming that they're in the Matrix) If not, I'm gonna have to give this one to Agent Smith. -- http://i56.tinypic.com/s40y80.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/21llhd4.gif http://i53.tinypic.com/2h7m3p5.png http://i29.tinypic.com/2s0zr0y.jpg <cite>FL81 posted [p:406462] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Would Lelouch's DOM work against Smith? (assuming that they're in the Matrix)If not, I'm gonna have to give this one to Agent Smith. -- http://i56.tinypic.com/s40y80.jpg http://i51.tinypic.com/21llhd4.gifhttp://i53.tinypic.com/2h7m3p5.png http://i29.tinypic.com/2s0zr0y.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/01/11 7:13:00 PM #19:	I don't think the DOM would outright kill Smith but it might ** him up / shake him up a bit. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406463] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> I don't think the DOM would outright kill Smith but it might him up / shake him up a bit. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/01/11 7:16:00 PM #20:	It probably wouldn't do anything. Remember Neo was able to short out the machines just by his willpower outside of the Matrix. He wasn't able to employ that ability against Smith. -- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:406464] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> It probably wouldn't do anything. Remember Neo was able to short out the machines just by his willpower outside of the Matrix. He wasn't able to employ that ability against Smith. -- No problem!This is a cute and pop genocide of love! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/01/11 7:47:00 PM #21:	It probably wouldn't do anything. Remember Neo was able to short out the machines just by his willpower outside of the Matrix. He wasn't able to employ that ability against Smith. He did? Don't remember that part been awhile since I saw the movie. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406465] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> It probably wouldn't do anything. Remember Neo was able to short out the machines just by his willpower outside of the Matrix. He wasn't able to employ that ability against Smith.He did? Don't remember that part been awhile since I saw the movie. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/01/11 7:51:00 PM #22:	Pretty sure it was at the beginning of the third movie. Their ship was stopped or something cause Smith possessed that guy in the real world, eventually some of the machines with tentacle things comes upon their ship and they're all like "oh damn" and then Neo just like... holds his hand up and closes his eyes and they spark a bunch a fall down and they're like HOLY CRAP HE IS THE ONE. Then Neo faints of exhaustion I believe. -- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:406466] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Pretty sure it was at the beginning of the third movie. Their ship was stopped or something cause Smith possessed that guy in the real world, eventually some of the machines with tentacle things comes upon their ship and they're all like "oh damn" and then Neo just like... holds his hand up and closes his eyes and they spark a bunch a fall down and they're like HOLY CRAP HE IS THE ONE.Then Neo faints of exhaustion I believe. -- No problem!This is a cute and pop genocide of love! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/01/11 8:05:00 PM #23:	hmm mmk then -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406467] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> hmm mmk then -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 10/01/11 8:11:00 PM #24:	End of the second movie actually, but yeah. It happened and Smith wasn't affected. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:406468] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> End of the second movie actually, but yeah. It happened and Smith wasn't affected. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackMetalex 10/01/11 8:24:00 PM #25:	hmmm based on this thread and what I remember from the Matrix movies, it seems like Lelouch has more raw offense, and way more defense than Agent Smith, with some pretty decent speed. So yeah, I'll vote Lelouch for now, but I could be convinced otherwise. <cite>BlackMetalex posted [p:406469] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> hmmm based on this thread and what I remember from the Matrix movies, it seems like Lelouch has more raw offense, and way more defense than Agent Smith, with some pretty decent speed.So yeah, I'll vote Lelouch for now, but I could be convinced otherwise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/01/11 9:27:00 PM #26:	[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406470] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikapika212 10/02/11 3:36:00 AM #27:	Lelouch -- Guilty Gear - (Main) - Baiken (Sub) - A.B.A - Dizzy - Anji Mito - Zappa - Sol Badguy Blazblue - (Main) - Rachel alucard (Subs) Platinum the Trinity - Hakumen <cite>pikapika212 posted [p:406471] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Lelouch -- Guilty Gear - (Main) - Baiken (Sub) - A.B.A - Dizzy - Anji Mito - Zappa - Sol BadguyBlazblue - (Main) - Rachel alucard (Subs) Platinum the Trinity - Hakumen </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pram_the_Oracle 10/02/11 3:36:00 AM #28:	Lelouch -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge! NEXT TIME! <cite>Pram_the_Oracle posted [p:406472] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Lelouch -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge!NEXT TIME! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/02/11 11:31:00 AM #29:	bored bump -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406473] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> bored bump -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WickIebee 10/02/11 12:24:00 PM #30:	There isn't much arguing going on... need more of the battle itself... -- Official Pidgeot of the B/W Boards Clan :D <cite>WickIebee posted [p:406474] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> There isn't much arguing going on... need more of the battle itself... -- Official Pidgeot of the B/W Boards Clan:D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/02/11 12:27:00 PM #31:	There isn't much arguing going on... need more of the battle itself... Indeed. I don't know how powerful the mechs in Geass are (saw anime but this seems like something else entirely). Lelouch gets smacked by one and is sent flying. Smith could probably just grab it with his hand and rip off the mechs arm. Though I could be overestimating Smith / underestimating NoN mechs. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406475] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> There isn't much arguing going on... need more of the battle itself...Indeed. I don't know how powerful the mechs in Geass are (saw anime but this seems like something else entirely). Lelouch gets smacked by one and is sent flying. Smith could probably just grab it with his hand and rip off the mechs arm.Though I could be overestimating Smith / underestimating NoN mechs. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/02/11 12:39:00 PM #32:	Oh, I should vote too. Lelouch. Mechs in Code Geass are pretty strong, I say they can stand toe-to-toe with, say, some of the Gundams from 00. I'm not sure Smith could just rip their arms off. And while Lelouch was hit and sent flying by them, he wasn't hurt at all and this was before his Demon King powers (though IMO, he can win this even without them). -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:406476] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Oh, I should vote too. Lelouch.Mechs in Code Geass are pretty strong, I say they can stand toe-to-toe with, say, some of the Gundams from 00. I'm not sure Smith could just rip their arms off. And while Lelouch was hit and sent flying by them, he wasn't hurt at all and this was before his Demon King powers (though IMO, he can win this even without them). -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/02/11 12:41:00 PM #33:	Demon King seems to add some more tricks not really up his durability anymore (well aside from CC rapid regen) can you give me an estimate of NoN mech destructive power (not really a gundam expert either) I don't think they are going around flying in space like nothing (then again I am just going by from what I watched from basic Code Geass where the highest tier mech seemed to be like multiple huge building buster / whatever.) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406477] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Demon King seems to add some more tricks not really up his durability anymore (well aside from CC rapid regen)can you give me an estimate of NoN mech destructive power (not really a gundam expert either) I don't think they are going around flying in space like nothing (then again I am just going by from what I watched from basic Code Geass where the highest tier mech seemed to be like multiple huge building buster / whatever.) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/02/11 12:47:00 PM #34:	And while Lelouch was hit and sent flying by them, he wasn't hurt at all wasn't my point as much as that would mean Smith is more tanky in that regard (not be knocked off his feet where Lelouch would be sent flying) I mean wasn't one of the lower tier NPCs (lol) in the matrix movie get hit by a truck and just kinda stood there (not moved an inch) and the truck just flipped over him (guy took collision head on and was like "lol") though I could be remembering the scene wrong. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406478] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> And while Lelouch was hit and sent flying by them, he wasn't hurt at all wasn't my point as much as that would mean Smith is more tanky in that regard (not be knocked off his feet where Lelouch would be sent flying)I mean wasn't one of the lower tier NPCs (lol) in the matrix movie get hit by a truck and just kinda stood there (not moved an inch) and the truck just flipped over him (guy took collision head on and was like "lol")though I could be remembering the scene wrong. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/02/11 1:12:00 PM #35:	[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406479] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/02/11 3:35:00 PM #36:	bump for arguments -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406480] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> bump for arguments -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/02/11 3:39:00 PM #37:	I would vote (or argue) but I don't want to bother to read the ugly manga pics GANON posted and no one has really explained too much on Lelouch otherwise. -- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:406481] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> I would vote (or argue) but I don't want to bother to read the ugly manga pics GANON posted and no one has really explained too much on Lelouch otherwise. -- No problem!This is a cute and pop genocide of love! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/02/11 3:40:00 PM #38:	You could have just not posted -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:406482] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> You could have just not posted -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/02/11 3:41:00 PM #39:	But then I wouldn't have an excuse to say how ugly the action scenes in that manga look. -- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:406483] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> But then I wouldn't have an excuse to say how ugly the action scenes in that manga look. -- No problem!This is a cute and pop genocide of love! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/02/11 3:42:00 PM #40:	Hey Ganon if you had to estimate Lelouch's speed where would you put it? I know you were talking about how he was casually dodging the mechs etc. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406484] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Hey Ganon if you had to estimate Lelouch's speed where would you put it? I know you were talking about how he was casually dodging the mechs etc. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/02/11 3:45:00 PM #41:	It's tough to say, I would have to look at the specs/speed feats of the robots he battles but I would assume his speed and reflexes are around the speed of sound, really quick. He has reaction speeds above the speed of sounds, seen when he stops all those projectiles from hitting him.Of course this would be further improved by The Speed geass. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:406485] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> It's tough to say, I would have to look at the specs/speed feats of the robots he battles but I would assume his speed and reflexes are around the speed of sound, really quick. He has reaction speeds above the speed of sounds, seen when he stops all those projectiles from hitting him.Of course this would be further improved by The Speed geass. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/02/11 3:49:00 PM #42:	I thought "The Speed" increased the speed of things he chooses (like say he flicked a rubber ball he would make it go speed of sound by just flicking it and using the speed) etc. I don't really see him moving at the speed of sound but I can see reaction speed being that. but hey NoN Lelouch is mostly new for me (its seems like Code Geass on steroids) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406486] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> I thought "The Speed" increased the speed of things he chooses (like say he flicked a rubber ball he would make it go speed of sound by just flicking it and using the speed) etc. I don't really see him moving at the speed of sound but I can see reaction speed being that.but hey NoN Lelouch is mostly new for me (its seems like Code Geass on steroids) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
smitelf 10/02/11 3:49:00 PM #43:	Smith -- Official Queen *** of the Universe! <cite>smitelf posted [p:406487] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Smith -- Official Queen *** of the Universe! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/02/11 3:51:00 PM #44:	ahh scratch that missed the part of your post saying "himself and his mech" but then it says giving himself super sonic so I assume thats where it tops (and thats when he uses the speed so I assume base speed would be slower than that) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406488] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> ahh scratch that missed the part of your post saying "himself and his mech" but then it says giving himself super sonic so I assume thats where it tops (and thats when he uses the speed so I assume base speed would be slower than that) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maniac64 10/02/11 3:53:00 PM #45:	This has shown me that I should never read NoN. -- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris <cite>Maniac64 posted [p:406489] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> This has shown me that I should never read NoN. -- "Hope is allowed to be stupid, unwise, and naive." ~Sir Chris </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
todbot1 10/02/11 3:55:00 PM #46:	Agent Smith -- [02:00] <red13n> ermines hard drive is one giant folder maze [02:01] <Altimadark> And Windows is the Minotaur <cite>todbot1 posted [p:406490] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Agent Smith -- [02:00] <red13n> ermines hard drive is one giant folder maze[02:01] <Altimadark> And Windows is the Minotaur </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/02/11 3:55:00 PM #47:	Well Smith's able to dodge at supersonic speeds as he can dodge automatic weapons which fire at over double the speed of sound I believe. So yeah that doesn't really mean he outspeeds Smith-- if anything Smith outspeeds him-- Smith can create sonic booms when he flies around too, as Kanz already said. Also he has precognition from the Oracle. I don't really see Lelouch being able to hit Smith very easily. Two questions: 1. Does Lelouch have any attacks with very large AoEs. 2. Do we have any reason to believe that Smith's assimilation wouldn't work on Lelouch. -- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:406491] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Well Smith's able to dodge at supersonic speeds as he can dodge automatic weapons which fire at over double the speed of sound I believe. So yeah that doesn't really mean he outspeeds Smith-- if anything Smith outspeeds him-- Smith can create sonic booms when he flies around too, as Kanz already said. Also he has precognition from the Oracle. I don't really see Lelouch being able to hit Smith very easily.Two questions:1. Does Lelouch have any attacks with very large AoEs.2. Do we have any reason to believe that Smith's assimilation wouldn't work on Lelouch. -- No problem!This is a cute and pop genocide of love! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/02/11 3:55:00 PM #48:	NoN is pretty much official fanfiction. The writer admits being a big fan of the characters, especially Lelouch, and hated how the original show ended and just wanted to make something where Lelouch basically wins and is the best in everything. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:406492] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> NoN is pretty much official fanfiction. The writer admits being a big fan of the characters, especially Lelouch, and hated how the original show ended and just wanted to make something where Lelouch basically wins and is the best in everything. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/02/11 3:57:00 PM #49:	Lelouch's robot has very large laser attacks, and he can use The Ice to freeze anything he sees in place. But nothing like a big aoe iirc -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:406493] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> Lelouch's robot has very large laser attacks, and he can use The Ice to freeze anything he sees in place. But nothing like a big aoe iirc -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/02/11 4:01:00 PM #50:	2. Do we have any reason to believe that Smith's assimilation wouldn't work on Lelouch. I thought that only worked in the matrix on the data "avatars" of the people within. So I don't think it will work (though I vaguely remember some scene where it looked like Smith pulled shenanigans outside the matrix but I could be remembering the scene wrong) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:406494] in Most Power... [t:60497464]...</cite> <quote> 2. Do we have any reason to believe that Smith's assimilation wouldn't work on Lelouch.I thought that only worked in the matrix on the data "avatars" of the people within. So I don't think it will work (though I vaguely remember some scene where it looked like Smith pulled shenanigans outside the matrix but I could be remembering the scene wrong) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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