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HeroicLinusReed
10/02/11 8:31:00 PM
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Find all the angles between 0 and 2pi satisfying the given condition

tan(theta) = -1

I think I have a good grasp on how to do sin/cos.. but how do I do tangent? I have the unit circle in front of me

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NeoElfboy
10/02/11 8:34:00 PM
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If you have the unit circle in front of you, then consider that tan(theta) = y/x, so you need y and x equal but with opposite signs. This occurs midway through quadrants 2 and 4, so the angles you need are 135 degrees and 315 degrees, or 3/4*pi and 7/4*pi, since you're using radians.

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HeroicLinusReed
10/02/11 8:34:00 PM
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and like how would you find the value of tan of (2pi/3) and tan of (3pi/4)

for tan and cot i only have up till pi/2, what's the way of finding the complement or whatever it's called?

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Colegreen_c12
10/02/11 8:36:00 PM
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if you know sin and cos well tan = sin/cos
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HeroicLinusReed
10/02/11 8:37:00 PM
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HeroicLinusReed posted...
and like how would you find the value of tan of (2pi/3) and tan of (3pi/4)

for tan and cot i only have up till pi/2, what's the way of finding the complement or whatever it's called?
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like on the table i have all the values of the 6 trig functions from 0 to pi/2, but how do i find ones when it goes beyond pi/2, mainly for tan?

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HeroicLinusReed
10/02/11 8:39:00 PM
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and when doing the signs, does the ASTC acronym going from quadrants 1 to 4 work for the reciprocals? For example, if a value positive where sin would be positive would it be positive for csc as well?

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Colegreen_c12
10/02/11 8:39:00 PM
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if your looking at a circle, all the angles are relative to the x axis.

so pi/6 is the same amount as 5pi/6 or 7pi/6 and 11pi/6

all are positive in quadrant 1
sin is positive in 2
tan in 3
and cos in 4.
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GTM
10/02/11 8:40:00 PM
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it's symmetric along the x axis, except with the signs changed

so tan(30) = - tan(150) for example

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GTM
10/02/11 8:41:00 PM
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ninja'd

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HeroicLinusReed
10/02/11 8:46:00 PM
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Colegreen_c12 posted...
if your looking at a circle, all the angles are relative to the x axis.

so pi/6 is the same amount as 5pi/6 or 7pi/6 and 11pi/6

all are positive in quadrant 1
sin is positive in 2
tan in 3
and cos in 4.


so is csc + in 2, cot + in 3, and sec + in 4?

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Colegreen_c12
10/02/11 8:53:00 PM
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From: HeroicLinusReed | #010
so is csc + in 2, cot + in 3, and sec + in 4?


yes
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HeroicLinusReed
10/02/11 9:02:00 PM
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how would you solve this problem?

tan^-1 (tan 3pi/4)

"compute without using a calculator"

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foolm0ron
10/02/11 9:09:00 PM
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uhh, it just cancels out to 3pi/4

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HeroicLinusReed
10/02/11 9:13:00 PM
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ok last question, this one is about logs..

how do you deal with logs with different bases?

for example,

log (base 8) 2 + log (base 4) 2 = ?

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GTM
10/02/11 9:17:00 PM
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for log (base x) y, you can do:

log (base 10) y / log (base 10) x

or ln y/ ln x

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HeroicLinusReed
10/02/11 9:19:00 PM
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so how would that apply to the question i asked?

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LordoftheMorons
10/02/11 9:22:00 PM
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8^(log_8(2))=2. In other words, log_8(2) is the power you have to take 8 to in order to get 2.
...if you don't know how to do this stuff calc is probably not going to be fun.

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HeroicLinusReed
10/02/11 9:36:00 PM
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it probably wont be, cause i still dont understand that very well

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WalrusJump
10/02/11 9:42:00 PM
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log (base x) y = 1/(log (base y) x)

hope that helps

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foolm0ron
10/02/11 9:50:00 PM
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From: HeroicLinusReed | #014
log (base 8) 2 + log (base 4) 2 = ?


For this, you just need to figure out the exact value of each. If you can't use a calculator, you should hope that the values are clean (like they are in this case)

log (base 8) 2 = x
8^x = 2
2^(3x) = 2^(1)
3x = 1
x = 1/3
log (base 8) 2 = 1/3

similarly you can find log (base 4) 2 = 1/2

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HeroicLinusReed
10/02/11 10:07:00 PM
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"For this, you just need to figure out the exact value of each."


oooooooooooh right ok ok now i got it.. i thought you had to get similar bases or whatever for some reason.. ok this makes sense

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