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SmartMuffin
10/03/11 5:42:00 PM
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- Roseanne Barr is calling for bankers to be executed. But the Tea Party is violent.

- Bank of America's debit card fee is a direct result of the Dodd/Frank financial reform. As predicted by yours truly, and pretty much every capitalist on the planet.

- PETA is mocking shark attack victims.

- Do we really live in a free country?

http://dudewheresmyfreedom.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/news-roundup-1032011/

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Heroic Mass Carrier
10/03/11 5:44:00 PM
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So, anyways, Lebron James is a virus to society. I hope once an NBA season starts out that he gets drilled early and misses the playoffs.

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FoolishMuffin
10/03/11 5:44:00 PM
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SmartMuffin Topic

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Biolizard28
10/03/11 5:48:00 PM
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From: Heroic Mass Carrier | #002
So, anyways, Lebron James is a virus to society. I hope once an NBA season starts out that he gets drilled early and misses the playoffs.


Dude, what

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KimPilgrim
10/03/11 5:49:00 PM
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- Do we really live in a free country?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60500255/673520033

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SmartMuffin
10/03/11 5:56:00 PM
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A free country is not a lawless country.

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KimPilgrim
10/03/11 5:58:00 PM
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If it had been the exact same situation in reverse, with Tea Partyers being rounded up and arrested in the same way, you would say it was corrupt law enforcement being backed by the government. That is an undeniable fact. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. You are B8's biggest hypocrite.

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SmartMuffin
10/03/11 6:03:00 PM
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Tea Partiers don't get arrested, because they don't break the law. That is also an undeniable fact. Name-calling gets you nowhere.

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KimPilgrim
10/03/11 6:04:00 PM
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SmartMuffin
10/03/11 6:06:00 PM
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Board 8: Where showing preference to those who obey the law over those who break it is idiocy.

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KimPilgrim
10/03/11 6:10:00 PM
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You just flat out stated that if it had been the tea partyers, under the exact same circumstances, you would have defended them.

Do you not see why nobody takes you seriously?

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Mr Lasastryke
10/03/11 6:10:00 PM
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Muffin, everyone who posted in the Cokes topic, from liberal to conservative, is saying the police trapped the people. Except SephyG. Why are you defending the police?

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SmartMuffin
10/03/11 6:13:00 PM
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You just flat out stated that if it had been the tea partyers, under the exact same circumstances, you would have defended them.

Um, no I didn't.

I informed you that your question is irrelevant, because tea partiers obey police instructions.

That's also why it's not entrapment. The police stated to the group "If you keep advancing, you will be arrested" and they kept advancing. There is video of this. I refuse to be told I'm wrong just because a lot of people who refuse to do their research disagree with me.

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KimPilgrim
10/03/11 6:15:00 PM
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If it had been the exact same situation in reverse, with Tea Partyers being rounded up and arrested in the same way, you would say it was corrupt law enforcement being backed by the government. That is an undeniable fact.

Tea Partiers don't get arrested, because they don't break the law. That is also an undeniable fact.

Also.

You are agreeing that your hypocrisy is an undeniable fact.

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SBell0105
10/03/11 6:17:00 PM
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How is the March on the Brooklyn Bridge different from the Dumping of Tea in Boston Harbor in 1773?

People standing up for what they believe in and taking action.

Isn't this what you base your beliefs on Smuffin?

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SmartMuffin
10/03/11 6:18:00 PM
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How is the March on the Brooklyn Bridge different from the Dumping of Tea in Boston Harbor in 1773?

The Boston Tea party was a protest against oppressive government. This is a protest IN FAVOR of oppressive government. There's one difference!

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SmartMuffin
10/03/11 8:32:00 PM
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So, does anyone actually want to discuss any of the stories mentioned?

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FFaddict1313
10/04/11 7:44:00 AM
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idc if youre a communist or a libertarian

we can all agree that peta is a bunch of attention whoring douchebags

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SlymDayspring
10/04/11 7:50:00 AM
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I would probably be more inclined to discuss the stories you mentioned if you linked to an actual news website (note- the blaze does not count) and not your blog.

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FFaddict1313
10/04/11 8:09:00 AM
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yeah, how dare he not copy-paste the contents of a single web page into the body of his message

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metroid composite
10/04/11 8:22:00 AM
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SmartMuffin posted...
So, does anyone actually want to discuss any of the stories mentioned?

PETA is insane and this has been well-known for ages.

Doesn't Rosanne have a mental condition of some kind? Bi-polar or something?

Bank of America has debit card fees now? Hm, maybe I should switch banks.

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Heroic_CactObo
10/04/11 8:26:00 AM
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From: Mr Lasastryke | #011
Muffin, everyone who posted in the Cokes topic, from liberal to conservative, is saying the police trapped the people. Except SephyG. Why are you defending the police?


not to take smuffin's side because I (and really nobody else on this board for that matter) has any f***ing idea what truly happened on the brooklyn bridge...

...but that has got to be the most idiotic reason to try to get someone to agree with you

"everyone else thinks one way, and that's the only tool we have to convince you to think the same way"

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FFaddict1313
10/04/11 8:31:00 AM
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metroid composite posted...
Bank of America has debit card fees now? Hm, maybe I should switch banks.


Well, all banks are trying to up fees right now because of the same new regulations that caused BoA to start these fees.

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SlymDayspring
10/04/11 9:23:00 AM
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it is a false notion to suggest that these fees are a result of the new regulations.

banks of america is not entitled to continue making the same amount of money every year, they chose to institute these fees to offset the costs of the new regulations. if they are not making enough money, it is not the fault of the new regulations, but their own terrible management and business model. otherwise, how would other banks be making money?

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metroid composite
10/04/11 9:33:00 AM
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FFaddict1313 posted...
Well, all banks are trying to up fees right now because of the same new regulations that caused BoA to start these fees.

It's not terribly complicated--I store a lot of money in the bank, which gives the bank capital which they can use to, say, lend someone a mortgage. This is worth a lot to them. In exchange, they absorb the debit card costs, if any.

It's not like I'm living paycheck to paycheck; I'm fine with needing a minimum balance to avoid fees, and given how valuable capital is, I'm sure there's a bank out there willing to offer that.

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SBell0105
10/04/11 10:14:00 AM
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Boa has been raping peoples wallets for years. This is no surprise.

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metroid composite
10/04/11 10:20:00 AM
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SBell0105 posted...
Boa has been raping peoples wallets for years. This is no surprise.

BoA's been fine for me for years. There was one time when I was setting up new accounts and they weren't linked properly in the computer, so I got a fee, complained, and it was refunded and the accounts properly linked. That's all the trouble I've had with them *shrug*

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SmartMuffin
10/04/11 7:11:00 PM
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xfd @ acting like this was unexpected

http://reason.com/blog/2011/09/30/new-debit-card-fees-is-it-an-u

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SmartMuffin
10/04/11 8:32:00 PM
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banks of america is not entitled to continue making the same amount of money every year

You're not entitled to a free debit card.

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metroid composite
10/04/11 8:44:00 PM
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SmartMuffin posted...
You're not entitled to a free debit card.

It's not free.

The vendor pays the bank for every transaction. The bank holds a minimum of capital at low to zero interest rate, which they can then invest for a much higher rate of return.

Like...next you're going to tell me that home buyers are not entitled to a free real-estate agent.

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SBell0105
10/04/11 9:04:00 PM
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Unfortunately the banks are holding us hostage with these fees.

You can't get by these days without a Bank Account. You'll either pay the fee's they charge or you'll pay fees to cash your paychecks or fees to get money orders for paying bills. Because we all know that you can't send Cash to the Electric Company to pay a bill.

Banks Invest in mortgage backed securities. Banks go belly up. Tax Payers bail out the Banks. Banks hit the Tax Payers with new fees.

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SmartMuffin
10/04/11 9:32:00 PM
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Because we all know that you can't send Cash to the Electric Company to pay a bill.

Actually I believe that if you show up at their headquarters with cash, they are legally required to accept it as payment.

Your better argument would be employers (including the US government) that require direct deposit.

In any case, your point is totally irrelevant. It doesn't matter how much you think you need it. It's still not an entitlement. When will you Communists learn this? Just because you claim a "need" does not compel anyone else to provide you with something under terms dictated solely by you.

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SBell0105
10/04/11 9:41:00 PM
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It's amazing, my free checking account has all these fees attached.

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SmartMuffin
10/04/11 9:44:00 PM
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Then withdraw your money and move to a different bank. That's how the market works, genius.

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SBell0105
10/04/11 9:45:00 PM
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You could always withdraw from the United States of America and move to a different Country. That's how freedom works, genius.

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LOLContests
10/04/11 9:46:00 PM
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But the Tea Party is violent.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/forget-palin-heres-some-real-violent-rhetoric-from-radio-host-if-ballots-dont-work-bullets-will/

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SmartMuffin
10/04/11 9:48:00 PM
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Do you have any suggestions? I don't know of many countries who have greater individual freedom than this one.

Also, it's not nearly that simple. The process to renounce your citizenship is long, complicated, and they hit you with a punitive fine (tax) for doing so. And that's assuming you can easily find some country willing to accept you as an immigrant. Believe it or not, the rest of the world isn't totally cool with people who just sneak in across the border and start demanding free stuff and accuse all the citizens of racism for not giving it to them.

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MoogleKupo141
10/04/11 9:49:00 PM
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I don't know of many countries who have greater individual freedom than this one.

but you know of a few? go to one of those.

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SBell0105
10/04/11 9:50:00 PM
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Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

Ya know, if we didn't consider the Statue of Liberty our National Mascot and it didn't have that ^ inscribed at its base, maybe people would stop showing up.

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SBell0105
10/04/11 9:51:00 PM
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Cause if that isn't true anymore then maybe we should just knock the green b**** down.

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SmartMuffin
10/04/11 9:51:00 PM
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but you know of a few? go to one of those.

It's tough to say really. There are a few with more economic freedom, but those typically come up short when it comes to personal freedom.

I honestly don't know in any case, because I've never been to them. It would seem foolish to totally disrupt my life and immigrate somewhere solely because I *think* it might have more freedom, wouldn't it? And then there's all that other stuff I said that you just ignored.

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SmartMuffin
10/04/11 9:54:00 PM
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Also, I didn't know that the engraving on some French statue takes precedence over federal law. My bad.

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SBell0105
10/04/11 9:59:00 PM
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I had no idea that Tea Partiers no longer recognized the Statue of Liberty as a symbol of Freedom and the Country they love so much.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/05/11 4:21:00 AM
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...but that has got to be the most idiotic reason to try to get someone to agree with you

"everyone else thinks one way, and that's the only tool we have to convince you to think the same way"

truly remarkable


I didn't say that to get Muffin to agree with me - notice that I didn't even say what my opinion on the whole Brooklyn Bridge thing was. Just saying that if he's right, the police did the right thing and the protesters "deserve to rot in jail," then why does almost nobody here, from liberal to conservative, agree with him? If it's so obvious that the protesters were in the wrong, surely more people should be able to see it.

Edit: "Why are you defending the police?" may not have been the most clear way to make my point come across in that post. "Why are you so sure that the police is in the right?" would've been a better choice of words.

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SlymDayspring
10/05/11 5:46:00 AM
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You're not entitled to a free debit card.

never said I was. I actually have no problem with this fee, I don't use my debit card. I was not arguing that BoA has no right to make this new fee...I was arguing that it was not the result of the regulations. Them making less money was the result of the regulations, them wanting to keep making the same money was what caused this new fee.

ps somalia has total economic freedom and no oppressive government....in fact, no functional government at all!

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SmartMuffin
10/05/11 6:26:00 AM
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Them making less money was the result of the regulations, them wanting to keep making the same money was what caused this new fee.

This just shows how leftists like you, the President, and Congress have absolutely zero idea how business works. Did you see the Obama interview where this came up? He basically said, "Well this just proves that we need even more regulation so we can stop them from doing this." What exactly are you going to do? They are GOING to find a way to make their money. Short of completely nationalizing the banks, you won't stop this. Playing whack-a-mole with their latest way to earn profits is not going to work. Period.

ps somalia has total economic freedom and no oppressive government....in fact, no functional government at all!

I'm not sure how that is relevant. Libertarians do not advocate no functional government at all. Government is necessary to protect individual rights.

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LOLContests
10/05/11 10:57:00 AM
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I thought Bank of America was doing poorly because they took on Merrill Lynch.

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SmartMuffin
10/05/11 8:42:00 PM
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*because the government forced them to take on Merrill Lynch

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SBell0105
10/06/11 6:54:00 PM
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Hey Smuffin, are you part of the 1% or the other 99% ?

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SmartMuffin
10/06/11 8:11:00 PM
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I neither know, nor care, how much money everyone else makes. I worry about myself.

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