Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1005

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Not a very well-thought nomination system, really.

The only real problem is that Allen didn't know what to call the contest - hence the stickied request for a change. Crono / Lavos isn't a rivalry, except what Allen meant was nominate two people where any sort of antagonism exists between them. Both adversaries or rivals were intended nominees.

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there probably was no one term to combine the two so he just want with the "cooler" sounding rivalry

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I just want to know if he's going to keep that bet/bank system from last time!

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I just want to know if he's going to keep that bet/bank system from last time!

I would hope so. Everyone seemed to enjoy it, so I don't know why he wouldn't bring it back.

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That bet/bank system was too easy for me to win a prize out of it. It was a Karma prize, because I didn't fill out an entry to win a game system (or some games).

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That bet/bank system was too easy for me to win a prize out of it. It was a Karma prize, because I didn't fill out an entry to win a game system (or some games).

Maybe that's because you had 211 entries, if I recall correctly.

You can't fill out a Karma Entry on multiple accounts. I had a Karma Entry on this account and Fun Entries for all of my other accounts.

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Crono/Lavos vs. Frog/Magus

Who wins?

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I'd like to think CT fans will side with the actual rivalry, but...

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Crono/Lavos would beat down Magus/Frog without much of a problem.

I'd like to think CT fans will side with the actual rivalry, but...

I'd see it being split, 60/40 at the most. Then the "casual" fan will vote for Crono, and the non-fan will vote for Crono as well.

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There are lots of CT fans who don't like Frog or Magus that much. This is clear from how much stronger Crono is than those two. It's not a slam dunk among fans who are voting based on rivalries, though Frog/Magus should have an advantage there. But they need a large advantage among those voters to win the match.

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totally forgot anout Bank or Bust

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People here are complaining that Crono/Lavos isn't a real rivalry, maybe others would think the same way in that match?

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I hope Bank or Bust returns.

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People here are complaining that Crono/Lavos isn't a real rivalry, maybe others would think the same way in that match?

People will vote for their favorite characters, no matter what the name of the contest is. There's a lot more people who don't follow the contest who will just pick their favorites then there are people who do follow the contest who will think of what rivalry is better.

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Crono is over 57%, so he actually gained on Leon over the course of the night. He'll probably lose his standard 1% with the ASV soon, but an Ulti-style blowout is good enough considering the presence of Lavos here.

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90s games > 00s games

Well, RE's day vote is pretty terrible, too.

In fact, most of the characters in this poll have terrible day votes, looking at it.

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When Crono is actually going up with the morning vote, you know most of these characters have terrible day votes.

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Do we all expect Tifa/Aeris to make it comfortably now? That's a very interesting pairing that could easily be one of the dozen strongest.

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Wouldn't really call them rivals.

I'd like to think CT fans will side with the actual rivalry, but...

Reminds me of the people that thought Magus could defeat Crono in 2003 and 2004.

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pjbasis posted...
Wouldn't really call them rivals.

If Katherine/Catherine made it based on being love rivals, then Tifa/Aeris are totally eligible

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SBAllen should've just gone with a tag team contest and just say characters must be from the same game.

True, would've given us Cloud/Zack, Zack I think would appease Cloud anti-voters quite a bit more then Sephiroth and may give Link/Midna a real fight.

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Uh no, this is way better than tag-teams for the reason that it won't just be based on character strength.

Will that be a big factor? Yeah it's not like these are games, the popularity of a relationship will be determined by the popularity of its characters, but they will be greater (or less than) the sum of their parts on many cases.

The only difference I see between being a rival contest and a tag-team contest is whether or not people will take the term rivals seriously. Personally I feel only a small group of people will factor this in their vote and I doubt results would change besides matches that are very close.

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I hope Raziel and Kain makes it....

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Uh no, this is way better than tag-teams for the reason that it won't just be based on character strength.

Will that be a big factor? Yeah it's not like these are games, the popularity of a relationship will be determined by the popularity of its characters, but they will be greater (or less than) the sum of their parts on many cases.

Are we not watching the mute Noble Niner and his complete and utter deadweight antagonist totally mop the floor with 11 much more legitimate nominations for Greatest Gaming Rivalry right now? There could not be a nomination who have less of a relationship.

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pjbasis posted...
Will that be a big factor? Yeah it's not like these are games, the popularity of a relationship will be determined by the popularity of its characters, but they will be greater (or less than) the sum of their parts on many cases.

They will be equal to popularity of the highest character in the pair in nearly every case tbqh.

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Virtually no chance - they're going to finish 5th, with~9% of the vote in the poll with (likely) the lowest votals so far. Although, if SBA's looking purely at %, the top 12 so far are:

Big Boss vs. The Boss (22.26%)
Crono vs. Lavos (20.33%)
Leon Kennedy vs. Ada Wong (14.90%)
William B.J. Blazkowicz vs. Adolf Hitler (14.39%)
Raiden vs. Vamp (13.98%)
Katherine vs. Catherine (11.92%)
Gordon Freeman vs. Dr. Breen (11.62%)
Banjo vs. Gruntilda (11.60%)
Yuna vs. Seymour Guado (11.18%)
Arthas vs. Illidian (10.75%)
Jim Raynor vs. Sarah Kerrigan (10.21%)
Raziel vs. Kain (9.59%)

Raziel/Kain might have a tiny hope if it's the top 16 entrants across the four polls (there will surely only be four) by pure %.

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Just because Crono/Lavos doesn't have much of a relationship doesn't mean I'm gonna vote for a Suikoden pair.

I never played Suikoden! Popularity obviously includes exposure. Fodder will be fodder no matter.

They will be equal to popularity of the highest character in the pair in nearly every case tbqh.

Let them think otherwise. Easy (easier) money!

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Easy money for me you mean!

I'll laugh my way to the bank at all you people with Link/Ganon winning your brackets.

So, who is going to be the strongest character to likely miss the contest? Auron? Unless people went with Auron/Sin over Tidus/Sin, or Tidus/Jecht over Tidus/Sin.

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Unless Vincent/Hojo is in the next vote in (and i doubt it), Vincent is sitting this year out.

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Oh right.

Vincent/Hojo is actually one I wouldn't be surprised to see have gotten in on pure nominations. Auron's more of a 'running out of villains to pair with heroes' case.

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Well Auron/Yunalesca is a pretty legitimate antagonistic relationship if a tad onesided but I guess nobody felt like rallying.

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Oh right, Yunalesca.

Ok so if Vincent and Auron both somehow get in, then I guess it's either Tifa or Zelda, depending on if Tifa/Aeris actually gets in.

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Pikachu, Missingno., and Yoshi aren't gonna make it either, and all of them are almost as strong as Zelda at worst.
Luigi could conceivably miss it, too.

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Luigi has Waluigi so I think he's safe.

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Waluigi might get in, but not Wario. Awesome.

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I really doubt Vincent/Hojo got enough noms to bypass the vote-ins. Heck, I'd be surprised to even see them in a vote-in. They had 0 noms in the tally topic.

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Crono is holding up really well with the ASV. Maybe casual voters are less likely to consider rivalry considerations?

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It's more likely that most, if not all, of these entries absolutely suck ass with the ASV and CT fans are in a large enough quantity to keep Crono stable against fellow ASV crap.

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There's bad with the day vote, and then there's bad enough that Crono will go up against you with the ASV. IIRC, Crono's only won the day vote twice in his entire contest career: against super frontloaded Snake in the 2008 final and Magus in 2004.

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I nominated Auron-Yunalesca but only because I didn't know what to do with all my nominations. I doubt that Auron will make it, don't really care, and I love(d) FFX! So I'd be surprised if they made it.

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IIRC Crono won the ASV against Missingno.

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It was a sunday, so there was no ASV. We started right in the middle of the day vote.

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90s games > 00s games

so

Cloud/Sephiroth
Link/Ganondorf
Mario/whoever

who do you think is the fourth strongest in this contest?

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Charizard/Blastoise

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I'd put Sonic/Knuckles or Mega Man X/Zero or Snake/Liquid over them, I think

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