Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1005

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Either Mega Man X/Zero or Samus/Ridley, I'd guess. I think Ocelot or Liquid will drag Solid Snake down too much.

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And by drag down I mean people who are only familiar with Snake through Brawl won't get who Liquid or Ocelot are.

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Solid/Liquid

Solid Snake is one hell of an anchor. Liquid may not be worth much on his own, but seeing the brothers Snake up there on the front page together will probably give them some nice rivalry synergy. Certainly, Liquid does more for Snake than Ridley would for Samus, and no worse than Wily/Robotnik will do for Mega Man and Sonic (yeah, I know Sonic won't be paired with Robotnik, but just saying).

I think X/Zero is another decent bet. Zero does a hell of a lot more for X than Protomo/Wily would for MM classic.

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Honestly, after say, Mega Man/ProtoManorWily, I think we're going to see a massive drop.

Link/Ganon
Cloud/Sephiroth
Mario/Bowser
MM/Friend
Solid/LiquidOcelot
MMX/Zero
Samus/Ridley

We could see a really, really weak 8th member of the Elite Eight, maybe even a really really weak Final Four member if the bracket works out poorly. Who would you take to be #8?

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here, let's try and make this contest halfway interesting. predict this.

(1) Link/Ganondorf
(16) Tidus/Jecht

(8) Dante/Vergil
(9) Squall/Seifer

(4) Solid Snake/Liquid Snake
(13) Tifa/Aeris

(5) Samus/Ridley
(12) Charizard/Blastoise

(3) Cloud/Sephiroth
(14) Kirby/Meta Knight

(6) Sonic / Knuckles
(11) Frog/Magus

(7) Mega Man X / Zero
(10) Ryu / Ken

(2) Mario/Bowser
(11) Big Boss/The Boss

dump Clinkerothio and you've got an even better setup. hrm.

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(1) Link/Ganondorf

(9) Squall/Seifer

(4) Solid Snake/Liquid Snake

(5) Samus/Ridley

(3) Cloud/Sephiroth

(6) Sonic / Knuckles

(7) Mega Man X / Zero

(2) Mario/Bowser

(1) Link/Ganondorf

(5) Samus/Ridley

(3) Cloud/Sephiroth

(2) Mario/Bowser

(1) Link/Ganondorf

(2) Mario/Bowser

(1) Link/Ganondorf

I'm gonna gamble on Mario/Bowser being extra-iconic for votes that the 'characters' wouldn't grab.

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huh, I'd be floored if Samus/Ridley beat Liquid/Solid Snake.

I feel like Tifa and Aeris might beat both though.

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(1) Link/Ganondorf
(9) Squall/Seifer
(4) Solid Snake/Liquid Snake
(5) Samus/Ridley
(3) Cloud/Sephiroth
(6) Sonic / Knuckles
(10) Ryu / Ken
(2) Mario/Bowser

(1) Link/Ganondorf
(4) Solid Snake/Liquid Snake
(3) Cloud/Sephiroth
(2) Mario/Bowser

(1) Link/Ganondorf
(2) Mario/Bowser

(1) Link/Ganondorf

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I'm honestly not sure about Samus/Ridley, but I think 'oh man A DRAGON' is going to help Samus more than 'who is that goof' will help Solid Snake, but I can see Samus/Ridley bombing relative to normal Samus expectations.

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I would pick every NN pairing besides Crono/Lavos over Samus/Ridley.

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Would Snake really get paired up with Liquid? I imagined Snake/Ocelot as more popular, since it spanned multiple games.

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Unfortunately Snake is almost certainly getting paired with Liquid. I guess we don't know for sure, but I doubt it'll be Snake/Ocelot.

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if you tried to nominate Solid Snake, who would you get back?

either way, if you get Ocelot then you're getting Liquid Ocelot, so it doesn't really matter.

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Cloud/Seph
Link/Ganon
Mario/Bowser
Snake/Ocelot or Liquid
Samus/Ridley
X/Zero
Mega Man/Wily or Protoman
Sonic/Robotnic
Ryu/Ken
Hmmmm maybe Crono/Lavos, after Ryu/Ken things will really drop off.

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(1) Link/Ganondorf
(9) Squall/Seifer

(4) Solid Snake/Liquid Snake
(5) Samus/Ridley

(3) Cloud/Sephiroth
(6) Sonic / Knuckles

(10) Ryu / Ken
(2) Mario/Bowser


(1) Link/Ganondorf
(4) Solid Snake/Liquid Snake

(3) Cloud/Sephiroth
(2) Mario/Bowser

Link/Ganondorf > Cloud/Sephiroth

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If Mario/Sonic doesn't make it in, at the least I'd like to see them in a bonus round against the winner.

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lol people doubting Link.

Skyward Sword release date: November 20th in the US.

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November 20 eh? Well that may throw a wrench in these Cloud/Sephiroth plans.....

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Even if that ends up being a month before the final, there will still be an influx of Zelda fans on the site and short of the game being a truly awful flop, GameFAQs' community will take to it in a massive way and it'll be fresh in people's minds.

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No way Link loses.

Samus/Ridley would be the favorite over Charizard/Blastoise, seriously?

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Crono/Lavos current percentage on Gordon/Breen: 63.78%
Tifa's percentage on Gordon (2010): 61.96%
Samus's percentage on Gordon (2008 R3 4-way): 66.16%
Vincent's percentage on Gordon (2008 R3 4-way): 63.03%
Vincent's percentage on Gordon (2008 R2 4-way): 62.05%

Assuming Lavos and Breen don't impact the match, Crono gets 52.39% on Tifa, 51.01%/52.28% on Vincent, and 46.71% on Samus. That's pretty good, especially as Vincent was stronger in 2008 than he is now.

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I hope the bonus match is the winner vs. Santa/Jesus.

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Ooh, predictionz. I'll add an oracle prediction, too.

(1) Link/Ganondorf - 75%
(9) Squall/Seifer - 60%
(4) Solid Snake/Liquid Snake - 62%
(5) Samus/Ridley - 55% (I really could see an upset here)
(3) Cloud/Sephiroth - 75%
(6) Sonic / Knuckles - 60%
(7) Mega Man X / Zero - 57%
(2) Mario/Bowser - 80%

Round 2:
(1) Link/Ganondorf - 65%
(4) Solid Snake/Liquid Snake - 58%
(3)Cloud/Sephiroth - 65%
(2) Mario/Bowser - 65%

Round 3:
(1) Link/Ganondorf - 62%
(3) Cloud/Sephiroth - 55%

Round 4:
(3) Cloud/Sephiroth - 53%

Hmmm...looks like I have higher expectations with Cloud/Sephiroth than most?

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Oh, how FF7 never beats Zelda? Sephiroth flattened Ganondorf in the villians contest, and if the rematch happened again today the result would be no different.

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Can someone explain me the logic behind taking Cloud/Seph over Link/Ganon? Its the exact same fanbase for both, so I don't see how adding Seph makes Cloud any stronger... To me, the way to beat Link is to bring two separate fanbases together, like Mario/Sonic.

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Link beat Santa. On Christmas.

SS will be out in a little over a month.

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Because Sephiroth >>> Ganondorf, and Cloud/Seph is a better rivalry. It's pretty close to start, without Skyward Sword anyway.

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If people were actually voting for rivalries then they might have a chance. But the LAW is absolute here.

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Can someone explain me the logic behind taking Cloud/Seph over Link/Ganon? Its the exact same fanbase for both, so I don't see how adding Seph makes Cloud any stronger... To me, the way to beat Link is to bring two separate fanbases together, like Mario/Sonic.

Cloud isn't that much weaker than Link. Sephiroth is a lot stronger than Ganondorf and likely overlaps less with Cloud than Ganondorf does with Link. Neither overlap is 100%. If Cloud/Sephiroth beats Link/Ganondorf, you get a lot more leeway with your performance in the earlier rounds to finish in the Top 50 or win a prize.

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Forgot about Skyward Sword. Dang it. Well, then I'll definitely that predict Link/Ganondorf wins, then.

It's almost as if fate aligned that game's release date with this contest!

Edit: the logic of Cloud/Sephiroth winning is, in addition to their overall strength as individuals being stronger, Cloud/Sephiroth could be argued to be more popular as an actual rivalry itself. There's the final battle scene between them, some major spoils involving them that I won't say, and they have been in lots of polls ("which do you like better, Cloud or Sephiroth?") for years. They are both -very- iconic RPG characters.

Link/Ganondorf isn't bad, but it pales in comparison to, say, Mario/Bowser. Even with SS, I wouldn't be surprised to see it lose... except I'm still expecting it to win with ease, with this site being Zelda-FAQs.


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It really isn't. Link/Zelda have lost 4 out of 13 contests. That's almost a third.

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It really isn't. Link/Zelda have lost 4 out of 13 contests. That's almost a third.

How many of those were legit loses?

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Link hardly ever loses clean. Needs "outside interference"

Oh hey Link is Cena

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We've already seen that this site isn't all that hyped up for Skyward Sword.

In fact, like I said, this site doesn't seem to care for anything announced after from E3 2006 aside from Brawl (because the Brawl hype train easily overshadowed everything else Nintendo from announcement to release despite Brawl not being playable at any E3 event, and then we effectively got no major announcements in E3 2008, so GameFAQs clearly stopped caring a whole lot for modern Nintendo and shifted over to WRPGs). IIRC, Metroid: Other M was the most hyped Wii game on this site that doesn't have "Zelda" or "Smash" in the name, and I remember Metroid Prime 3 beating Super Mario Galaxy in one anticipation poll in spite of the whole "Metroid sucks against Mario" thing.

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Cloud
FFVII
Sephiroth
L-Block

So 3 out of 4. And L-Block type events put a lot of fear into us Zelda fans, so I'm not sure it matters that much that it was the product of a massive bandwagon.

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Can someone explain me the logic behind taking Cloud/Seph over Link/Ganon? Its the exact same fanbase for both, so I don't see how adding Seph makes Cloud any stronger... To me, the way to beat Link is to bring two separate fanbases together, like Mario/Sonic.

Cloud isn't that much weaker than Link. Sephiroth is a lot stronger than Ganondorf and likely overlaps less with Cloud than Ganondorf does with Link. Neither overlap is 100%. If Cloud/Sephiroth beats Link/Ganondorf, you get a lot more leeway with your performance in the earlier rounds to finish in the Top 50 or win a prize.

Bingo. I think the votals in the Link/Ganon and Cloud/Seph matches speak for itself how much overlap there is.

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red sox 777 posted...
Cloud
FFVII
Sephiroth
L-Block

So 3 out of 4. And L-Block type events put a lot of fear into us Zelda fans, so I'm not sure it matters that much that it was the product of a massive bandwagon.

Sephiroth beating Ganondorf doesn't count. Come on.

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Any predictions for a rivalry in the upcoming poll?

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another great visual novel rivalry

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Serge/Lynx, still feeling it! CC gonna show CT how to dominate the poll!

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Expecting Tifa/Aeris, since not enough people would have thought of a love rivalry to get it into the bracket normally

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prediction for the next vote-in:

DK vs. King K Rool

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oh.. uh.. that's it?

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Vote-ins.... over?

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Seems we were all wrong!

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Oh. Ok?

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Wow, I didn't expect that there would only be 3 days of vote-ins.

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