Board 8 > Most Powerful Fictional Character 2011: Laharl vs. Kurou Daijuuji [MPFC]

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Sceptilesolarbeam 10/06/11 7:32:00 PM #51:	It's hard to say how he'd react, but let me at least point out that Kurou is noted for very good instincts. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425680] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> It's hard to say how he'd react, but let me at least point out that Kurou is noted for very good instincts. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/07/11 4:30:00 AM #52:	So the argument here isn't Laharl vs Kurou but more "how Kurou reacting decides whether Laharl beasts him or Kurou UBER beasts Laharl?" -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:425681] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> So the argument here isn't Laharl vs Kurou but more "how Kurou reacting decides whether Laharl beasts him or Kurou UBER beasts Laharl?" -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 10/07/11 4:51:00 AM #53:	Laharl for now. May change if Kurou supporters can clarify all the ??? about his personality and how he fights. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch <cite>redrocket posted [p:425682] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Laharl for now. May change if Kurou supporters can clarify all the ??? about his personality and how he fights. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 10/07/11 6:48:00 AM #54:	I've gone into a fair bit of detail... In the first place, it's kind of hard to extrapolate how Kurou would react to a non-serious fight because he doesn't have any. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425683] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> I've gone into a fair bit of detail... In the first place, it's kind of hard to extrapolate how Kurou would react to a non-serious fight because he doesn't have any. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/07/11 6:56:00 AM #55:	Plus the fight would be made even more "lol wut" to Kurou if Laharl summons prinnies XD -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:425684] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Plus the fight would be made even more "lol wut" to Kurou if Laharl summons prinnies XD -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_Regaro_ 10/07/11 9:56:00 AM #56:	Kurou because why not -- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.png <cite>_Regaro_ posted [p:425685] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Kurou because why not -- http://img.imgcake.com/RegaroUlquiorrapngse.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 10/07/11 10:00:00 AM #57:	From arguments, Laharl. I guess. It sounds like Kurou goes from complete wimp to Nyarlathotep depending on how serious he is, and it seems he wouldn't be overly serious to start against the 10 year old kid cackling about overlords -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:425686] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> From arguments, Laharl. I guess. It sounds like Kurou goes from complete wimp to Nyarlathotep depending on how serious he is, and it seems he wouldn't be overly serious to start against the 10 year old kid cackling about overlords -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 10/07/11 10:08:00 AM #58:	Not to start with, but I don't think Laharl would be either >_>. He'd be too busy gloating. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425687] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Not to start with, but I don't think Laharl would be either >_>. He'd be too busy gloating. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Durandi 10/07/11 10:37:00 AM #60:	Laharl -- ~Quest to beat every game in BGE2009~ Current game: Mega Man 3. Black Turtle won the guru contest. <cite>Durandi posted [p:425689] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Laharl -- ~Quest to beat every game in BGE2009~Current game: Mega Man 3. Black Turtle won the guru contest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/07/11 10:42:00 AM #61:	Kurou -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:425690] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Kurou -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pram_the_Oracle 10/07/11 10:43:00 AM #62:	Can Kurou gauge an opponents power? Like DBZ Power level sensing? -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge! NEXT TIME! <cite>Pram_the_Oracle posted [p:425691] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Can Kurou gauge an opponents power? Like DBZ Power level sensing? -- Chant the name of BlAcK TuRtLe, winner of the 2010 Guru Challenge!NEXT TIME! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 10/07/11 10:46:00 AM #63:	He doesn't have an actual sensor for it, but... I mentioned this earlier, but he has really good instincts; he can usually tell if he's facing a real threat. I don't think he'd be completely blindsided. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425692] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> He doesn't have an actual sensor for it, but... I mentioned this earlier, but he has really good instincts; he can usually tell if he's facing a real threat. I don't think he'd be completely blindsided. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WickIebee 10/07/11 11:04:00 AM #64:	Both end up monologuing... so what does this fight come to? I'll say Laharl -- Official Pidgeot of the B/W Boards Clan :D <cite>WickIebee posted [p:425693] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Both end up monologuing... so what does this fight come to?I'll say Laharl -- Official Pidgeot of the B/W Boards Clan:D </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 10/07/11 11:14:00 AM #65:	I feel like Kurou will win... Even if Laharl does go nuts, Mirror of Nitocris, Atlach-Natla, and Ithaqua's homing mode are all effective ways of making it difficult for Laharl to blitz him, and he'll summon Demonbane pretty quickly if Laharl is going full power with meteors and stuff. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425694] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> I feel like Kurou will win... Even if Laharl does go nuts, Mirror of Nitocris, Atlach-Natla, and Ithaqua's homing mode are all effective ways of making it difficult for Laharl to blitz him, and he'll summon Demonbane pretty quickly if Laharl is going full power with meteors and stuff. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gatarix 10/07/11 11:19:00 AM #66:	Kurou It probably takes some time for either of them to realize that he has to take the fight seriously. Both of them are going to step it up as the fight goes on, but it sounds like Kurou's peak is much higher than Laharl's peak. -- You put your RESOLVE HAT back on, which conveniently is the same hat as your NORMAL HAT. {Drakeryn} <cite>Gatarix posted [p:425695] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> KurouIt probably takes some time for either of them to realize that he has to take the fight seriously. Both of them are going to step it up as the fight goes on, but it sounds like Kurou's peak is much higher than Laharl's peak. -- You put your RESOLVE HAT back on, which conveniently is the same hat as your NORMAL HAT.{Drakeryn} </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/07/11 12:15:00 PM #67:	So I'm thinking based on how the guy's personality is described... Laharl rants about being an overlord etc etc. Kurou takes this seriously because 1. He's a serious type. 2. He's somewhat dumb. 3. He has good instincts. But not so seriously he uses his Demonbane thingy cause he has to be desperate for that. He instead takes this opportunity to go into goodie goodie "to protect the world" mode. Laharl gets pissed very quickly because yeah he doesn't care for talk like this, and blows the dude up more quickly than the dude pulls out Demonbane. Laharl Would've taken Kurou if Kurou was likely to just start by silently attacking, wasn't prone to heroic talks or talking at all during a fight, or wasn't hesitant to use demonbane. But yeah. -- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:425696] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> So I'm thinking based on how the guy's personality is described... Laharl rants about being an overlord etc etc. Kurou takes this seriously because 1. He's a serious type. 2. He's somewhat dumb. 3. He has good instincts. But not so seriously he uses his Demonbane thingy cause he has to be desperate for that. He instead takes this opportunity to go into goodie goodie "to protect the world" mode. Laharl gets pissed very quickly because yeah he doesn't care for talk like this, and blows the dude up more quickly than the dude pulls out Demonbane. LaharlWould've taken Kurou if Kurou was likely to just start by silently attacking, wasn't prone to heroic talks or talking at all during a fight, or wasn't hesitant to use demonbane. But yeah. -- No problem!This is a cute and pop genocide of love! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 10/07/11 12:18:00 PM #68:	Actually, aren't you misrepresenting Laharl a bit here? As I recall, he mostly just laughed at the Prism Rangers for stuff like that. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425697] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Actually, aren't you misrepresenting Laharl a bit here? As I recall, he mostly just laughed at the Prism Rangers for stuff like that. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemo Incognito 10/07/11 12:27:00 PM #69:	Kurou if this is the same Demonbane I've heard about for years. Really, what's going on here? Was that "powers of Demonbane" copypasta that showed up everywhere debunked? Because that stuff alone was miles above Laharl and if it's accurate then there's been a total failure to communicate how amazingly broken the Demonbane is. -- for your phantomile.... <cite>Nemo Incognito posted [p:425698] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Kurou if this is the same Demonbane I've heard about for years.Really, what's going on here? Was that "powers of Demonbane" copypasta that showed up everywhere debunked? Because that stuff alone was miles above Laharl and if it's accurate then there's been a total failure to communicate how amazingly broken the Demonbane is. -- for your phantomile.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 10/07/11 12:31:00 PM #70:	The argument is that he apparently won't go to using that unless he's very desperate -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:425699] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> The argument is that he apparently won't go to using that unless he's very desperate -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 10/07/11 12:31:00 PM #71:	From: Nemo Incognito \| #069 Kurou if this is the same Demonbane I've heard about for years. Really, what's going on here? Was that "powers of Demonbane" copypasta that showed up everywhere debunked? Because that stuff alone was miles above Laharl and if it's accurate then there's been a total failure to communicate how amazingly broken the Demonbane is. No, it's pretty much true. Demonbane has the power to summon infinite versions of itself at its peak. If it isn't speedblitzed it has the firepower to kill everybody in this bracket, and I do mean everybody. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:425700] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> From: Nemo Incognito \| #069Kurou if this is the same Demonbane I've heard about for years.Really, what's going on here? Was that "powers of Demonbane" copypasta that showed up everywhere debunked? Because that stuff alone was miles above Laharl and if it's accurate then there's been a total failure to communicate how amazingly broken the Demonbane is.No, it's pretty much true. Demonbane has the power to summon infinite versions of itself at its peak. If it isn't speedblitzed it has the firepower to kill everybody in this bracket, and I do mean everybody. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 10/07/11 12:43:00 PM #72:	The argument is that he apparently won't go to using that unless he's very desperate Well, he will summon Demonbane pretty quickly. The problem is the Shining Trapezohedron and presumably Athleta Aeternam, though legit as described, are finishers. I'm also not sure what's with the 'size of the universe' thing. There's a lot I can't account for because the sequel VN didn't get translated. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425701] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> The argument is that he apparently won't go to using that unless he's very desperateWell, he will summon Demonbane pretty quickly. The problem is the Shining Trapezohedron and presumably Athleta Aeternam, though legit as described, are finishers. I'm also not sure what's with the 'size of the universe' thing. There's a lot I can't account for because the sequel VN didn't get translated. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 10/07/11 12:46:00 PM #73:	From: Sceptilesolarbeam \| #072 The argument is that he apparently won't go to using that unless he's very desperate Well, he will summon Demonbane pretty quickly. The problem is the Shining Trapezohedron and presumably Athleta Aeternam, though legit as described, are finishers. I'm also not sure what's with the 'size of the universe' thing. There's a lot I can't account for because the sequel VN didn't get translated. Demonbane has...I want to say four or five forms, apparently. -Base Demonbane: normal mech size. City buster. -First upgrade: Planet buster. Destroys moons with the two guns. -War Saint Demonbane: destroys universes by brushing against them accidentally. Yes, you read that right. -Elder God Demonbane: Functionally omnipotent (not directly omnipotent but very close). Might be forgetting a step somewhere. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:425702] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> From: Sceptilesolarbeam \| #072The argument is that he apparently won't go to using that unless he's very desperateWell, he will summon Demonbane pretty quickly. The problem is the Shining Trapezohedron and presumably Athleta Aeternam, though legit as described, are finishers. I'm also not sure what's with the 'size of the universe' thing. There's a lot I can't account for because the sequel VN didn't get translated.Demonbane has...I want to say four or five forms, apparently.-Base Demonbane: normal mech size. City buster.-First upgrade: Planet buster. Destroys moons with the two guns.-War Saint Demonbane: destroys universes by brushing against them accidentally. Yes, you read that right.-Elder God Demonbane: Functionally omnipotent (not directly omnipotent but very close).Might be forgetting a step somewhere. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 10/07/11 12:50:00 PM #74:	So basically except for Elder God Demonbane which gets mentioned in one of the ends but doesn't do anything other than clean Nya's clock, I can provide basically nothing despite having read the first Demonbane VN. Super >_>. I mean, base Demonbane, yes. I don't know if the Demonbane in the first VN ever reaches planet buster level, but I don't think so. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425703] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> So basically except for Elder God Demonbane which gets mentioned in one of the ends but doesn't do anything other than clean Nya's clock, I can provide basically nothing despite having read the first Demonbane VN. Super >_>.I mean, base Demonbane, yes. I don't know if the Demonbane in the first VN ever reaches planet buster level, but I don't think so. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 10/07/11 12:51:00 PM #75:	City busting mech probably won't do much of anything to Laharl -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:425704] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> City busting mech probably won't do much of anything to Laharl -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/07/11 12:52:00 PM #76:	I'm mostly remembering his exchange with Adell in Disgaea 2. I'm pretty sure a large part of the reason he nuked the planet for Game Over was because Adell (who seems pretty similar to this guy actually) was grating on him but correct me if I'm wrong. -- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:425705] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> I'm mostly remembering his exchange with Adell in Disgaea 2. I'm pretty sure a large part of the reason he nuked the planet for Game Over was because Adell (who seems pretty similar to this guy actually) was grating on him but correct me if I'm wrong. -- No problem!This is a cute and pop genocide of love! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 10/07/11 12:56:00 PM #77:	I thought that was because he lost. I mean, you fight Laharl no matter what, and unless you're ridiculously overlevelled, he just stomps you until SPOILERS shows up, right? So at least, the fact that Adell was winning is necessary for Laharl to be irritated enough to destroy the planet. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425706] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> I thought that was because he lost. I mean, you fight Laharl no matter what, and unless you're ridiculously overlevelled, he just stomps you until SPOILERS shows up, right? So at least, the fact that Adell was winning is necessary for Laharl to be irritated enough to destroy the planet. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gatarix 10/07/11 1:00:00 PM #78:	IIRC, here's how it goes: - Party fights Laharl in plot battle. Laharl owns them. - Later on, the party can choose to fight Laharl in an optional battle. - If the party wins that fight, Laharl gets pissed and blows up the planet. So I'm thinking Kurou is already in Demonbane before he can put enough pressure on Laharl to make Laharl get mad and bust out the planet-level attacks. That's why I'm saying it takes a while to escalate on both sides. -- You put your RESOLVE HAT back on, which conveniently is the same hat as your NORMAL HAT. {Drakeryn} <cite>Gatarix posted [p:425707] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> IIRC, here's how it goes:- Party fights Laharl in plot battle. Laharl owns them.- Later on, the party can choose to fight Laharl in an optional battle.- If the party wins that fight, Laharl gets pissed and blows up the planet.So I'm thinking Kurou is already in Demonbane before he can put enough pressure on Laharl to make Laharl get mad and bust out the planet-level attacks. That's why I'm saying it takes a while to escalate on both sides. -- You put your RESOLVE HAT back on, which conveniently is the same hat as your NORMAL HAT.{Drakeryn} </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadowmoon30 10/07/11 1:11:00 PM #79:	Going to go with Laharl for now. -- A signature I just don't know what to say in it besides LIVE FROM NEW YORK IT'S SATURDAY NIGHT!!! <cite>Shadowmoon30 posted [p:425708] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Going to go with Laharl for now. -- A signature I just don't know what to say in it besides LIVE FROM NEW YORK IT'S SATURDAY NIGHT!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/07/11 1:12:00 PM #80:	Hm I suppose that's true, actually. Actually I guess this fight might be more about can base Kurou beat Laharl who isn't really trying, and if so, how easily. Although I know there's a fight in the plot (at least once) where Laharl gets pissed at someone just for talking about peace and love and etc. He doesn't go galaxy busting because it's not necessary, but I imagine if they kept talking during the fight and were hard to kill Laharl would get pissed and nuke them. -- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:425709] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Hm I suppose that's true, actually. Actually I guess this fight might be more about can base Kurou beat Laharl who isn't really trying, and if so, how easily. Although I know there's a fight in the plot (at least once) where Laharl gets pissed at someone just for talking about peace and love and etc. He doesn't go galaxy busting because it's not necessary, but I imagine if they kept talking during the fight and were hard to kill Laharl would get pissed and nuke them. -- No problem!This is a cute and pop genocide of love! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 10/07/11 1:14:00 PM #81:	Actually I guess this fight might be more about can base Kurou beat Laharl who isn't really trying, and if so, how easily. He can't, he's just not very good in Magius Form. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425710] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Actually I guess this fight might be more about can base Kurou beat Laharl who isn't really trying, and if so, how easily. He can't, he's just not very good in Magius Form. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/07/11 1:17:00 PM #82:	How good is his dodging? How long do you think he could stall in that form before Laharl overwhelms him enough that he's going to use Demonbane. And also, if he's not very good in that form why doesn't half assing Laharl just one shot him with a meteor or something? -- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:425711] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> How good is his dodging? How long do you think he could stall in that form before Laharl overwhelms him enough that he's going to use Demonbane. And also, if he's not very good in that form why doesn't half assing Laharl just one shot him with a meteor or something? -- No problem!This is a cute and pop genocide of love! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 10/07/11 1:21:00 PM #83:	Going with Laharl for right now, but this topic's intrigued me enough to make me put Demonbane on my "to read" list. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:425712] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Going with Laharl for right now, but this topic's intrigued me enough to make me put Demonbane on my "to read" list. -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 10/07/11 1:26:00 PM #84:	*Lopen posted...* How good is his dodging? How long do you think he could stall in that form before Laharl overwhelms him enough that he's going to use Demonbane. And also, if he's not very good in that form why doesn't half assing Laharl just one shot him with a meteor or something? I don't think he'd be one-shotted. Since he can fly, his dodging is pretty good. He's at least pretty durable. My main problem with him in Magius Form is that his offense would be lacking. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425713] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Lopen posted...How good is his dodging? How long do you think he could stall in that form before Laharl overwhelms him enough that he's going to use Demonbane. And also, if he's not very good in that form why doesn't half assing Laharl just one shot him with a meteor or something?I don't think he'd be one-shotted. Since he can fly, his dodging is pretty good. He's at least pretty durable. My main problem with him in Magius Form is that his offense would be lacking. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 10/07/11 1:46:00 PM #85:	Yeah I'm still not really convinced then. See I think the main reason Laharl didn't go overboard with things like the Prism rangers, etc, is because he sorta just was like "hahaha I'm going to kill you for that" and then he did as he effortlessly took them out. As it has been for me this match is Laharl's patience vs the other guy's reluctance to use Demon's Bane. Given the archetypes I think Laharl "loses" that unless he squashes the other guy fairly quickly, or the other guy doesn't have traits that annoy him (and Laharl has the edge, because Laharl doesn't like losing either). Even if I did misremember the circumstances of the Disgaea 2 scene, the guy's tendency to act "goodie goodie" is still going to grate on Laharl and if it takes longer to kill the guy he's just going to pop. No evidence of him doing this directly, but given the other things he's done I don't think it's a stretch to assume it'd happen. I dunno I just can't see Laharl losing a battle where it's his brattiness vs a hero's reluctance unless he totally outmatches him. Just seems wrong. -- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:425714] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Yeah I'm still not really convinced then. See I think the main reason Laharl didn't go overboard with things like the Prism rangers, etc, is because he sorta just was like "hahaha I'm going to kill you for that" and then he did as he effortlessly took them out. As it has been for me this match is Laharl's patience vs the other guy's reluctance to use Demon's Bane. Given the archetypes I think Laharl "loses" that unless he squashes the other guy fairly quickly, or the other guy doesn't have traits that annoy him (and Laharl has the edge, because Laharl doesn't like losing either). Even if I did misremember the circumstances of the Disgaea 2 scene, the guy's tendency to act "goodie goodie" is still going to grate on Laharl and if it takes longer to kill the guy he's just going to pop. No evidence of him doing this directly, but given the other things he's done I don't think it's a stretch to assume it'd happen. I dunno I just can't see Laharl losing a battle where it's his brattiness vs a hero's reluctance unless he totally outmatches him. Just seems wrong. -- No problem!This is a cute and pop genocide of love! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 10/07/11 2:14:00 PM #86:	You're overrating Kurou's reluctance to use Demonbane, though... I figure that if Kurou tries to attack at full power and it completely fails, he'd summon Demonbane. And if Laharl started summoning a meteor or doing something suitably ridiculous, he'd summon Demonbane. If Laharl blitzes him and he gets an out with Mirror of Nitocris or Atlach-Natla, he'd summon Demonbane. The only case where he doesn't is if he is unable to react to the counter, and I don't think Laharl is really all that fast. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425715] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> You're overrating Kurou's reluctance to use Demonbane, though... I figure that if Kurou tries to attack at full power and it completely fails, he'd summon Demonbane. And if Laharl started summoning a meteor or doing something suitably ridiculous, he'd summon Demonbane. If Laharl blitzes him and he gets an out with Mirror of Nitocris or Atlach-Natla, he'd summon Demonbane. The only case where he doesn't is if he is unable to react to the counter, and I don't think Laharl is really all that fast. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/07/11 3:00:00 PM #87:	I don't think Laharl is really all that fast. whatt bout the whole "taking out earth's fleet in a couple minutes" and said fleet consisted of millions of ships... -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:425716] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> I don't think Laharl is really all that fast.whatt bout the whole "taking out earth's fleet in a couple minutes" and said fleet consisted of millions of ships... -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 10/07/11 3:00:00 PM #88:	From: Pirateking2000 \| #087 I don't think Laharl is really all that fast. whatt bout the whole "taking out earth's fleet in a couple minutes" and said fleet consisted of millions upon millions of ships... That feat is only worth using as a power measurement. IIRC it was mentioned that he let the ships evacuate their people first, so he could have just used a big nuke. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:425717] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> From: Pirateking2000 \| #087 I don't think Laharl is really all that fast.whatt bout the whole "taking out earth's fleet in a couple minutes" and said fleet consisted of millions upon millions of ships...That feat is only worth using as a power measurement. IIRC it was mentioned that he let the ships evacuate their people first, so he could have just used a big nuke. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirateking2000 10/07/11 3:05:00 PM #90:	2. How is wiping out a large fleet indicative of speed in any way whatsoever? I believe it was an argument brought up in another mpfc (like Laharl doing it manually / speed blitzing ships etc) just thought of mentioning it here. Plus wouldn't Laharl have to show tremendous speed to dodge / out speed all those ships when they were hostile in the first place (I forget that part of game so if this is wrong whoops / never personally played Disgaea 1 saw some scenes on youtube + played Disgaea 3 and 4) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:425719] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> 2. How is wiping out a large fleet indicative of speed in any way whatsoever?I believe it was an argument brought up in another mpfc (like Laharl doing it manually / speed blitzing ships etc) just thought of mentioning it here.Plus wouldn't Laharl have to show tremendous speed to dodge / out speed all those ships when they were hostile in the first place (I forget that part of game so if this is wrong whoops / never personally played Disgaea 1 saw some scenes on youtube + played Disgaea 3 and 4) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pirateking2000 10/07/11 3:15:00 PM #92:	random question how long does it take for Kurou to summon "Brokenbane" if it comes to that. I mean is it like "ok few minutes and here he comes time to stall" a "I need a few seconds" or "Demonbane come forth" instant. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:425721] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> random question how long does it take for Kurou to summon "Brokenbane" if it comes to that.I mean is it like "ok few minutes and here he comes time to stall"a "I need a few seconds"or "Demonbane come forth" instant. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 10/07/11 3:32:00 PM #93:	Not long at all. The imaginary expansion catapult just causes Demonbane to exist somewhere it didn't before, so it's basically teleportation. He has a catchphrase, though, so I guess long enough to say the catchphrase >_> -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425722] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Not long at all. The imaginary expansion catapult just causes Demonbane to exist somewhere it didn't before, so it's basically teleportation. He has a catchphrase, though, so I guess long enough to say the catchphrase >_> -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/07/11 3:37:00 PM #94:	How long is the catchphrase like Green Lantern thing long or? Does he sometimes say it really fast if it is somewhat long or? -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:425723] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> How long is the catchphraselike Green Lantern thing long or?Does he sometimes say it really fast if it is somewhat long or? -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 10/07/11 3:40:00 PM #95:	Like five seconds, I guess? Not especially long. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425724] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> Like five seconds, I guess? Not especially long. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/07/11 4:01:00 PM #96:	also how destructable is Demonbane (saw the post with it having multiple forms) Like if Base Demonbane were destroyed with Kurou inside would that be it or? again this is all based on if Demonbane even gets into play (which seems to be the Overall deciding factor for many votes) but I am just interested in Demonbane's stuff / durability etc -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:425725] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> also how destructable is Demonbane (saw the post with it having multiple forms)Like if Base Demonbane were destroyed with Kurou inside would that be it or?again this is all based on if Demonbane even gets into play (which seems to be the Overall deciding factor for many votes) but I am just interested in Demonbane's stuff / durability etc -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 10/07/11 4:10:00 PM #97:	I don't know how the extra forms work, but Demonbane is pretty durable. It's a super robot, so putting it down is really hard. Plus at the end of the first VN it gains regeneration. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425726] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> I don't know how the extra forms work, but Demonbane is pretty durable. It's a super robot, so putting it down is really hard. Plus at the end of the first VN it gains regeneration. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/07/11 4:13:00 PM #98:	A couple things How high of a regen. Like Wolverine down to cell regenerating from a drop of blood leve? Gurren Lagann "create things out of nothing" infinite regeneration or just somewhat regen also how fast is the regen and can it be used at base form + etc but again since most people are basing the match on reactions as a major factor etc I am giving a slight edge to Laharl for now. Asking demonbane questions out of curiousity to its level of broken lol. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:425727] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> A couple thingsHow high of a regen. Like Wolverine down to cell regenerating from a drop of blood leve? Gurren Lagann "create things out of nothing" infinite regenerationor just somewhat regenalso how fast is the regen and can it be used at base form + etcbut again since most people are basing the match on reactions as a major factor etc I am giving a slight edge to Laharl for now. Asking demonbane questions out of curiousity to its level of broken lol. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 10/07/11 4:14:00 PM #99:	From: Pirateking2000 \| #098 A couple things How high of a regen. Like Wolverine down to cell regenerating from a drop of blood leve? Gurren Lagann "create things out of nothing" infinite regeneration or just somewhat regen also how fast is the regen and can it be used at base form + etc but again since most people are basing the match on reactions as a major factor etc I am giving a slight edge to Laharl for now. Asking demonbane questions out of curiousity to its level of broken lol. He recovered from time erasure. Demonbane completely destroys Laharl basically, because it all goes on the pilot and not on the Mech for the top forms. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:425728] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> From: Pirateking2000 \| #098A couple thingsHow high of a regen. Like Wolverine down to cell regenerating from a drop of blood leve? Gurren Lagann "create things out of nothing" infinite regenerationor just somewhat regenalso how fast is the regen and can it be used at base form + etcbut again since most people are basing the match on reactions as a major factor etc I am giving a slight edge to Laharl for now. Asking demonbane questions out of curiousity to its level of broken lol.He recovered from time erasure. Demonbane completely destroys Laharl basically, because it all goes on the pilot and not on the Mech for the top forms. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 10/07/11 4:14:00 PM #100:	How high of a regen. Like Wolverine down to cell regenerating from a drop of blood leve? Gurren Lagann "create things out of nothing" infinite regeneration Not in base form. He can regen while it's suffered a lot of damage (like losing limbs), but not quite to that extent. Regen's fast, though; it was back to full repair in the previous lost-multiple-limbs instance in a couple of seconds. And yes, it can be used in base form. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:425729] in Most Power... [t:60554428]...</cite> <quote> How high of a regen. Like Wolverine down to cell regenerating from a drop of blood leve? Gurren Lagann "create things out of nothing" infinite regenerationNot in base form. He can regen while it's suffered a lot of damage (like losing limbs), but not quite to that extent.Regen's fast, though; it was back to full repair in the previous lost-multiple-limbs instance in a couple of seconds. And yes, it can be used in base form. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Board 8 > Most Powerful Fictional Character 2011: Laharl vs. Kurou Daijuuji [MPFC]