Board 8 > Phoenix Wright: Vengeance

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Do you think he can pull it off this time by combining his power with Edgey?

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Edgey's piece of evidence and Phoenix's will combine to form the one decisive piece that will bring down Gordon and Breen

It's a heartwarming tale

I want to believe Phoenix + Edgeworth can get enough power to get revenge on Gordon... but I just don't believe PW can do it. I think that anyone that would've voted Phoenix + Edgeworth over Gordon would also vote PW himself over Gordon, and that didn't happen. Gordon having a weak rival makes me consider it a little, but still not enough.


UMvC3 hype though, that might actually bump up PW's attention enough to do the trick... but I still don't know.

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PW got like 42% on Gordon back when PW games were relevant

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From: FateStayAlbion | Posted: 10/7/2011 7:24:28 PM | #004
PW got like 42% on Gordon back when PW games were relevant

pretty sure that's what the word "Vengeance" is referring to

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What is it exactly that Gordon Freeman been in lately? Can you name even one thing? I thought not.

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GuessMyUserName posted...
From: FateStayAlbion | Posted: 10/7/2011 7:24:28 PM | #004
PW got like 42% on Gordon back when PW games were relevant
pretty sure that's what the word "Vengeance" is referring to

I know, but I'm saying why PW stands no chance. He was his strongest back then, so no reason he can overcome that big of a deficit just because Edgeworth is added. Nobody is going to vote for Edgeworth and not Phoenix

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From: paperwarior | #006
What is it exactly that Gordon Freeman been in lately? Can you name even one thing? I thought not.

That was good

But people still really like Half-Life 2, almost beat MP last year. I think Gordon will probably win

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So the Half-Life vote hasn't decayed? >_> Okay, I'm done.

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paperwarior posted...
So the Half-Life vote hasn't decayed? >_> Okay, I'm done.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3473

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People who loved PW in 2006 still love him today. PW is still very relevant - just look at the UMvC3 polls. And UMvC3 is only going to give PW more popularity, what with him being exposed to a more mainstream series.

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Phoenix is going to win his division

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Basically it comes down to

Gordon > Phoenix

And I think Edgeworth and Breen are likely a toss up. Edgeworth is massive fodder, and Breen is likely about Alyx level, who is also massive fodder.

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To make it more interesting, somebody inform Court Records... and nobody inform Valve.

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From: FateStayAlbion | #004
PW got like 42% on Gordon back when PW games were relevant

Wrong.

New=/=relevant. The first Phoenix Wright match was back before the first game really took off commercially (in fact, the year after the game's sales increased several times in the US) and before the release of the rest of the series. Since then he's had an entire series of popular, well-received games, the latest of which coming out just last year. To top it off, Phoenix has quite a lot of UMvC3 hype. Gordon, on the other hand, was just coming off of Episode 1 during his match with Phoenix, and has had no games at all since 2007. Gordon's the one who's no longer relevant, and if anything Phoenix would be expected to do better now. Gordon's the only one likely to have weakened, Phoenix may well have gotten stronger.

Of course, there are other factors why Phoenix vs. Edgeworth will win, perhaps most notably that this is a competition of rivalries and voters aren't stupid. But your logic is completely backwards: Gordon isn't relevant, Phoenix still is.

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Oh goody, the Lightning Strikes predictions, always one of my favorite things about contest season

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As far as I'm concerned, any gains of Phoenix will be more than offset by gains of Freeman. The increasing prevalence of Steam, including 2010's inclusion of Mac support and the constant sales for HL2 definitely should keep Gordon's popularity increasing more than Phoenix's will.

Regardless, great match-So glad this match is in the bracket.

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From: TheKoolAidShoto | #056
Oh goody, the Lightning Strikes predictions, always one of my favorite things about contest season

I have no idea why people say stuff like this when I'm usually right.

I know that sounds arrogant, but it's true.

In 2007 "hey I think Phoenix will beat Bomberman" "LOLOLOLOL LIGHTNING STRIKES"
In 2008 "I'd watch out for Kirby this year" "LOLOLOLOL LIGHTNING STRIKES"
Last year "I think Samus will come close to Cloud, would pull the upset in a day match" "LOLOLOLOL LIGHTNING STRIKES"
And my favourite "After the first two rounds, I don't think GSC has a chance at MM, myself" "LOLOLOLOL LIGHTNING STRIKES"

Of course there are many other examples. I'm not going to say I don't make mistakes, but the only really big mess-ups I've made are Zelos in 2007 (my greatest failure) and to a much lesser extent thinking NMH wouldn't get destroyed by Okami (in fairness, there was no evidence that Okami would win by that much). I can name some pretty outlandish predictions other people have made, and you don't see them getting loads of flak for it. What makes thing worse is that other than the two examples above, when I do get something wrong it's always be a narrow margin. I don't just make crazy outlandish claims, and I've had a lot of the ones people laughed off turn out to be right.

And hell, my contest record's pretty decent. Not amazing or anything, but I usually wind up with a pretty high score, and may well have won the 2008 guru if not for blatant Crono related cheating (depending on Snake) thanks to my man Kirby.

So, uh, want to explain why I get the attitude?

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