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TsunamiXXVIII 10/08/11 1:25:00 PM #51: |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
TsunamiXXVIII posted... XIII_rocks posted... I always liked the idea of two matches per "match", total votes win. Rivalry idea is cool with me. Don't hate it, especially now I've seen the bracket Except how often would people split their votes? Most people would probably vote the same game's character for both matches. Anyway, I came back into this topic when I saw some discussion about the potential Round 3 between Samus/Ridley and Big Boss/The Boss and noticed that the 2010 X-Stats actually have Ridley > Big Boss straight-up. I'm pretty sure nobody would actually take that. LOL X-Stats indeed. (The adjusted X-Stats agree with this, giving Big Boss the win with 58.52% whereas the raw X-Stats have Ridley with 50.33%). The source is obvious, too--Ridley ended up losing directly to Cloud, whereas Big Boss lost directly to Mario. That gives both of them just 2 degrees of losing from the champ, but Mario gets SFFed to hell by Link while Cloud doesn't. Samus isn't going anywhere. No NN team is going to lose to a non-NN team this year. I wasn't suggesting that they would! Actually, I was pointing out that although the adjusted X-Stats say otherwise, the raw X-stats have Samus's "weaker" partner just slightly ahead of the stronger half of their first-round opponents! -- (this space for rent...okay, not really.) [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlAcK TuRtLe 10/08/11 4:16:00 PM #52: |
LeonhartFour posted...
Well, Master Chief doesn't have a singular rival. Uhhh, Arbiter? -- http://i49.tinypic.com/2ry672r.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SonicRaptor 10/08/11 4:19:00 PM #53: |
vcharon posted...
I'm pretty confident in saying Guybrush/LeChuck are the weakest in the entire field, though seeing them vs. Kid/Guy might be interesting. I still think the latter wins, based on their hokey names if nothing else. Kid/Guy is by far the weakest pair in this contest: an indy game that is only known by reputation rather than gameplay. It doesn't get any worse than that. -- Don't tell me what I can't do! - John Locke ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PartOfYourWorld 10/08/11 4:24:00 PM #54: |
From: LeonhartFour | #045 I agree. The Sonic/Robotnik rivalry is pretty iconic. Once again, I'm impressed that Eggman even made it when Knuckles seemed like the much more popular first choice. Maybe enough people nominated Sonic/Shadow that Eggman was able to capitalize? Either way, GameFAQs cares so little about Kirby's games that his rivalry with Meta Knight is probably mainly driven by Brawl. That's not enough to beat Sonic and Robotnik, not even close. -- Yoblazer: http://8board.webs.com/ariel.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SonicRaptor 10/08/11 4:31:00 PM #55: |
One thing I'll never get is why Crash Bandicoot keeps getting into these contests. His series has been nothing but that one game parents buy for their kids every year because they don't know what else could be good since his games stopped being PlayStation exclusives.
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JJH777 10/08/11 4:33:00 PM #56: |
SonicRaptor posted...
One thing I'll never get is why Crash Bandicoot keeps getting into these contests. His series has been nothing but that one game parents buy for their kids every year because they don't know what else could be good since his games stopped being PlayStation exclusives. For the same reason sonic keeps getting in. First 3 games were amazing after that they sucked. -- Starcraft is my life, so without it I wouldn't exist. - Artosis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SonicRaptor 10/08/11 4:37:00 PM #57: |
JJH777 posted...
SonicRaptor posted... One thing I'll never get is why Crash Bandicoot keeps getting into these contests. His series has been nothing but that one game parents buy for their kids every year because they don't know what else could be good since his games stopped being PlayStation exclusives. For the same reason sonic keeps getting in. First 3 games were amazing after that they sucked. Yeah, but at least with Sonic there has been some semblance of a fanbase even when the games were abysmal. Plus, Colors was pretty well regarded last year (some even said it returned Sonic to respectability). Crash hasn't had a game that was nothing more than adequate since Wrath of Cortex a decade ago and I have yet to see a dedicated Crash fanbase. -- Don't tell me what I can't do! - John Locke ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ffmasterjose 10/08/11 5:08:00 PM #58: |
Whoa, just realized Phoenix and Miles are a 1 seed. lol.
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charmander6000 10/08/11 5:09:00 PM #59: |
We haven't had a 8 > 1 seed upset yet.
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KamikazePotato 10/08/11 5:13:00 PM #60: |
Ugh. The more I think about it the more I lean towards Luigi>Red. You'd think that GameFAQs wouldn't be that bad and vote a nonexistant joke rivalry over one of the most famous ever just because they like Luigi...and then you realize yes, they probably would.
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ffmasterjose 10/08/11 5:18:00 PM #61: |
How popular is Phoenix Wright on GameFAQs anyway? Last I knew it just had a small, isloated fanbase. But all those nominations make me think otherwise. Augh.
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charmander6000 10/08/11 5:19:00 PM #62: |
I'm still surprised people are considering rivalry quality in many matches.
Assuming 0 SFF by Link against MMX and Luigi. Luigi gets 56% on Red, does Blue > Waluigi make up the difference once taking LFF into account? Some say yes, others say no. -- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60566352 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Justin_Crossing 10/08/11 5:20:00 PM #63: |
The problem with all these decisions is that second-guessing is bad.
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vcharon 10/08/11 5:21:00 PM #64: |
Well, Waluigi is almost universally loathed so I say in this rare instance, it may actually matter about the rivalry.
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charmander6000 10/08/11 5:21:00 PM #65: |
How popular is Phoenix Wright on GameFAQs anyway? Last I knew it just had a small, isloated fanbase. But all those nominations make me think otherwise. Augh.
Seeding is usually scewed towards hardcore fanbases. Phoenix lost to Jecht last contest while Big Boss tripled Edgeworth. -- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60566352 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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charmander6000 10/08/11 5:22:00 PM #66: |
The problem with all these decisions is that second-guessing is bad.
That's why I isolate myself for an hour to make my bracket. There's usually a reason why you made the pick. -- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/Rivalry%20BOP.xls BOP Topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60566352 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PartOfYourWorld 10/08/11 5:27:00 PM #67: |
From: KamikazePotato | #060 I'm the opposite. Once I thought about the SFF, I felt more and more that it would go Pokemon's way. I know Luigi > human Pokemon characters is pretty logical, but I think the actual rivalries will play a larger role in this match. Pokemon's is great. Luigi's is nonexistant. I love Waluigi, but he's ONLY in the multiplayer games and has never established any sort of relationship with Luigi within the games or the fanbase. The Nintendo fanbase will side with the more quality choice. -- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Greyfeld 10/08/11 5:30:00 PM #68: |
PartOfYourWorld posted...
From: KamikazePotato | #060 Ugh. The more I think about it the more I lean towards Luigi>Red. You'd think that GameFAQs wouldn't be that bad and vote a nonexistant joke rivalry over one of the most famous ever just because they like Luigi...and then you realize yes, they probably would. I'm the opposite. Once I thought about the SFF, I felt more and more that it would go Pokemon's way. I know Luigi > human Pokemon characters is pretty logical, but I think the actual rivalries will play a larger role in this match. Pokemon's is great. Luigi's is nonexistant. I love Waluigi, but he's ONLY in the multiplayer games and has never established any sort of relationship with Luigi within the games or the fanbase. The Nintendo fanbase will side with the more quality choice. lol while I agree with your stance, I'm not sure I agree with your reasoning. I don't think the Nintendo fanbase is going to think it through all that carefully. I foresee most of them going "Waluigi, WTF? Gey. Pokemon was AWESOME!!" -- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PartOfYourWorld 10/08/11 5:33:00 PM #69: |
From: Greyfeld | #068 That's actually what I'm saying, more or less. I didn't clarify with the SFF, but I think it helps Pokemon here because Pokemon is clearly the "better" choice. It's hard to put my theory into words, but I feel like since a Nintendo team will move on regardless, the fanbase will opt to side with the objectively better rivalry. -- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Greyfeld 10/08/11 5:37:00 PM #70: |
Fair enough :)
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PartOfYourWorld 10/08/11 5:43:00 PM #71: |
Oh btw, I just realized that Tifa/Aeris didn't make it. I have no idea how Yuna/Seymour drew more nominations. You'd think if one FF game would bring two pairings into the bracket, it would be VII. Pretty disappointing, really; Tifa/Aeris could have taken out most of these 2-3 seeds.
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redrocket 10/08/11 5:45:00 PM #72: |
I'm suspicious about Tifa/Aeris not making it. It had a board rally and it didn't even make the vote ins? With some of the crap that we saw there? I suspect Allen of DQing it for some lame reason.
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ffmasterjose 10/08/11 5:46:00 PM #73: |
Anyone else toying with the Ezio pairing upset over the Donkey Kong pairing? For some reason that looked like a nice little one to me.
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Greyfeld 10/08/11 5:48:00 PM #74: |
I dunno. As much as I like seeing representatives from other Final Fantasies outside of VII, none of them are going to do nearly as well. It's a shame that there's no slot for Vivi/Black Waltz. I would have vote stuffed the hell out of that lol.
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PartOfYourWorld 10/08/11 5:49:00 PM #75: |
I first thought that Allen might have limited the bracket to one entrant from a specific game (if you'll notice, all the series with multiple entrants, such as Resident Evil and MGS, have each of their rivalries born in separate games). But then... YUNA/SEYMOUR (and Crono/Lavos). Seriously, makes no sense at all.
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Greyfeld 10/08/11 5:50:00 PM #76: |
ffmasterjose posted...
Anyone else toying with the Ezio pairing upset over the Donkey Kong pairing? For some reason that looked like a nice little one to me. I considered it, but in the end I stuck with DK. The thing is, as well as Ezio and AC have done for themselves in these contests, even the people who love the series are going to say "Who the hell is Rodrigo?" On the other hand, despite DK's tendency to choke, King K. Rool has a massive nostalgia factor going for him. I think he'll definitely pull the ape up a few notches. -- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ffmasterjose 10/08/11 5:50:00 PM #77: |
Its all about Steiner v. Beatrix. I'd rally every wrestling board on the Internet to vote for Steiner! Who could refuse the Big Bad Booty Daddy?
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MarioSuperstar 10/08/11 6:02:00 PM #78: |
Putting DK over anything is always a risk. Always.
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Justin_Crossing 10/08/11 6:02:00 PM #79: |
bumpo
also Sonic > Kirby > Meta Knight > Robotnik what now -- ~Acting on Impulse~ Black Turtle still didn't MAJORA'S MASK ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ffmasterjose 10/08/11 6:06:00 PM #80: |
Thats what I'm saying, he's known for being the biggest choker in these contests! It feels the same Ryu H > Da Chief and Snake > Sephiroth did. But argh, if only Ezio's partner wasn't so booboo
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Pondos 10/08/11 6:14:00 PM #81: |
Justin_Crossing posted...
bumpo also Sonic > Kirby > Meta Knight > Robotnik what now Sonic wins 55-45 Because that's how Kirby rolls, yo -- Woop woop woop woop woop ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Greyfeld 10/08/11 6:16:00 PM #82: |
It really comes down to how much you trust the X-stats. The RAW X-stats puts DK easily behind Ezio, but the adjusted X-stats puts them about even. If we're to trust the adjusted stats, we have to take into consideration that K. Rool will probably outshine Rodrigo, putting DK as the winner for the match.
That said, this is going to be a night match, which swings things in Ezio's favor. It really is hard to call. You have to decide whether you trust DK to choke or not. -- PSN - Aevio BlackMageJawa - "I'm on a Goomba." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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transience 10/08/11 6:42:00 PM #83: |
FFX has two reps.
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SonicRaptor 10/08/11 6:42:00 PM #84: |
MarioSuperstar posted...
Putting DK over anything is always a risk. Always. Especially since Ezio or anything AC-related has been surprisingly strong every contest. -- Don't tell me what I can't do! - John Locke ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 10/08/11 7:06:00 PM #85: |
From what I've heard, Ezio's teammate is an anchor, so against all better judgement I'm probably siding with a semi-known Nintendo rivalry and picking DK in a close match.
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Justin_Crossing 10/08/11 7:09:00 PM #86: |
The thing is that I think that the series are mutually exclusive enough that the match becomes literally DK vs. Ezio. I don't think Rool is going to leech many people from Ezio since all of Rool's fans are already voting DK.
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AxemRedRanger 10/08/11 7:14:00 PM #87: |
DKCR exists now, DK wins.
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Justin_Crossing 10/08/11 7:14:00 PM #88: |
assassin's creed revelations exists
what now -- ~Acting on Impulse~ Black Turtle still didn't MAJORA'S MASK ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IloveYoda 10/08/11 7:54:00 PM #89: |
Greyfeld posted...
That said, this is going to be a night match, which swings things in Ezio's favor. I'd almost say that gives DK the edge. DK definitely has better trends during the night than the day, assuming his trends are still similar from 07 and 08. We haven't even seen Ezio in the night yet, since both of his matches in CB8 were during the day. We did see some night trends from ACII during GotD, but they didn't appear to be worth too much. -- Black! Turtle! Kooloo-LimPAH! The Guru Champion! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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red sox 777 10/08/11 8:27:00 PM #90: |
Well, Tifa and Aeris have always been bad at getting nominations. I'm also surprised that they didn't make, and they'd crush Yuna/Seymour, but them's the breaks.
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LeonhartFour 10/08/11 8:42:00 PM #91: |
Nobody really likes Rodrigo. He's basically the equivalent of an Uncharted villain (and notice that Drake ain't in this contest). He'd be one of the weakest characters in this contest on his own, I think.
From: redrocket | #072 Tifa/Aerith didn't really have a board rally. Only like 10 people nominated it, myself included. The casual nominator probably didn't consider it. Yuna/Seymour benefited from being in the database. -- http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8516/whatisdesiresig.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranzonEx 10/08/11 8:43:00 PM #92: |
Rodrigo's name is awesome when Ezio says it. That's enough for me.
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SonicRaptor 10/08/11 8:47:00 PM #93: |
Justin_Crossing posted...
assassin's creed revelations exists what now Speaking of that, I wish that Ubi Soft would just make ÅC3 already. -- Don't tell me what I can't do! - John Locke ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 10/08/11 8:58:00 PM #94: |
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #052 Most people don't consider Arbiter a rival, from what I've seen. -- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XxSoulxX 10/08/11 10:20:00 PM #95: |
Like someone already said, Ezio is stronger then DK already, and his game is releasing soon so him winning should be a no-brainer.
Kirby > Sonic looked like a good upset pick a year or two ago... that one got me nowhere. No reason to take it in this contest. Pac-Man over Crash is another easy choice. Pac-Man is a decent midcarder, and only loses his edge when facing strong legendary characters. Crash doesn't fall in any of those categories, meaning there will be no boosts/deboosts in this one. Crash isn't that strong, Pac-Man should take it without much of a problem. -- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 10/08/11 10:28:00 PM #96: |
I'd like to say Ezio being naturally stronger than DK should give him the win easily, but again, Rodrigo is going to be one of the weakest anchors in the contest.
Plus, the match happens before Revelations anyway. -- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Liwakip 10/08/11 10:31:00 PM #97: |
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KamikazePotato 10/08/11 10:33:00 PM #98: |
So between Saren, Lavos, Rodrigo, Waluigi, Giygas, Dr. Breen, and Blinky, which character is the biggest detriment to his rivalry?
I guess Chell would count, too. Only one in the bracket where the 'hero' is bringing down the 'villain'. -- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 10/08/11 10:39:00 PM #99: |
Probably Waluigi, if Luigi/Waluigi loses round 1 to Red/Blue. The rest remain to be seen. We've already seen that Crono/Lavos can still be decently strong, but it's not like Crono would've had a chance to beat Snake one-on-one anyway.
Rodrigo, Waluigi, Breen, and Giygas are the only ones I can see causing characters who would normally beat either pair on the other side to lose. Maybe. Ness vs. GlaDOS: Who do you take? -- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-Tofa7- 10/08/11 10:44:00 PM #100: |
Pretty happy with my bracket, aside from two things.
- The Pokemon Trainers, I have a real fear that they're going to make a deep run into the contest. Not sure at what point they will get stopped. - The Southwest Division. What a mess. This is going to kill so many brackets. More than half of them have a shot at winning the division. -- Tofa7 - LoZ-LoD | Hardcore "Thank you, thank you, no applause necessary, just send money..." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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