Board 8 > Would MGS 1 still be fun now?

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Minipoooot
10/11/11 7:11:00 PM
#1:


Thinking about downloading it on my PS3. Has it aged well? I played MGS2 a long time ago and enjoyed it, but that's the only one I've played. I'm playing a lot of games nowadays that I missed earlier in my life, so thinking about this one.

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WazzupGenius00
10/11/11 7:13:00 PM
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My first time through was like three years ago, and I still enjoyed it

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th3l3fty
10/11/11 7:13:00 PM
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I played it for the first time a few years ago and loved it

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Minipoooot
10/11/11 7:14:00 PM
#4:


excellent...then I shall acquire it

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SHINE GET 64
10/11/11 7:14:00 PM
#5:


play it once a year and it's still great

of course I alternate every year between the original and TS and they're both great

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TheNinJa7777
10/11/11 7:14:00 PM
#6:


It's still pretty fun, though I was spoiled by the first person aiming that's int the games now.

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Lopen
10/11/11 7:15:00 PM
#7:


Twin Snakes is better but it's playable. Definitely hasn't aged as well as MGS2 though.

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Emporer_Kazbar
10/11/11 7:15:00 PM
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From: SHINE GET 64 | #005
play it once a year and it's still great

of course I alternate every year between the original and TS and they're both great


So I'm not the only one who does this. Good.

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Minipoooot
10/11/11 7:18:00 PM
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From: Lopen | #007
Twin Snakes is better but it's playable. Definitely hasn't aged as well as MGS2 though.


eh I don't feel like going out and buying twin snakes...laziness rules

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Wanglicious
10/11/11 7:19:00 PM
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not really no.

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Lopen
10/11/11 7:19:00 PM
#11:


Well most people disagree with me there so it possibly doesn't matter.

I'm inclined to think that someone who started with MGS2 will probably agree with my preference between the two though.

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Minipoooot
10/11/11 7:21:00 PM
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tbh I don't even remember mgs 2 that much...it's been a really long time

From: Wanglicious | #010
not really no.


why do you say this

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LeonhartFour
10/11/11 7:21:00 PM
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I prefer Twin Snakes because of the better controls, personally. I don't mind all the crazy stunts that happen that most people complain about with that game.

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ZFS
10/11/11 7:23:00 PM
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Yeah, it's still totally enjoyable today. It's more basic than MGS2, but that works in its favor more often than not.

Twin Snakes is something of a disaster on the gameplay front. Not a fan of it.

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GranzonEx
10/11/11 7:23:00 PM
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It's not a good game after you've played MGS2. If we're only talking about pure gameplay.

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paperwarior
10/11/11 7:24:00 PM
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I don't really enjoy MGS gameplay in my experience.

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Psycho_Kenshin
10/11/11 7:25:00 PM
#17:


I'm a Twin Snakes guy, I did play a few hours of MGS for kicks recently, but then just played through Twin Snakes.

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ExThaNemesis
10/11/11 7:27:00 PM
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I find it unplayable just about. The story saves it from being a total dump heap but it's still vastly inferior.

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Minipoooot
10/11/11 7:27:00 PM
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hmm I sense negativity here...questioning my decision

is it worth spending 10 bucks on to download

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SHINE GET 64
10/11/11 7:27:00 PM
#20:


I play through both because each does certain things better that the other does not


The main reason for TS though is because I feel that despite Ocelot, Mei Ling and Nastasha being worse than MGS1, Liquid Snake is so much better. I love listening to him talk in TS

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ZFS
10/11/11 7:28:00 PM
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paperwarior posted...
I don't really enjoy MGS gameplay in my experience.

I notice this a lot around here! Shame. MGS games have some of the best gameplay around. You're offered so much freedom to approach things in different ways, and the AI is still some of the best in any series or games.

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ExThaNemesis
10/11/11 7:29:00 PM
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From: ZFS | #021
MGS games have some of the best gameplay around.


You mean MGS games past 1.

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rocket157
10/11/11 7:29:00 PM
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Twin Snakes is a bit better as far as playability, but both are equally fun.


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ZFS
10/11/11 7:30:00 PM
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You can't really go wrong with a $10 download. Do you find other PS1 era games playable?

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foolm0ron
10/11/11 7:30:00 PM
#25:


I hasn't aged very well, but it is still great. I played it for the first time like 3 years ago (played TTS way before it), and it was still great. You get used to the controls and such.

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GrapefruitKing
10/11/11 7:30:00 PM
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My first full playthrough was last August, and it was more than fun. One of the few games from that era that have aged very very well.

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ZFS
10/11/11 7:31:00 PM
#27:


ExThaNemesis posted...
You mean MGS games past 1.

I meant for the series as a whole, though MGS1 isn't the worst in that area.

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TheKnightOfNee
10/11/11 7:31:00 PM
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I played it for the first time last year. The stealth areas still hold up perfectly well. Other aspects of the gameplay aren't as smooth now. The grappling section stands out as "what on earth is even going on"

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Pianist
10/11/11 7:31:00 PM
#29:


it is pretty rough to play but still worth $10 for a classic

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Minipoooot
10/11/11 7:32:00 PM
#30:


From: ZFS | #024
You can't really go wrong with a $10 download. Do you find other PS1 era games playable?


Absolutely. In the past year I've played through SotN, FFIX, and Crash Team Racing.

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ZFS
10/11/11 7:33:00 PM
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Yeah, there are a couple of nagging areas where it hasn'theld up. Grappling is one, sniping is the other -- but both are pretty minor segments overall.

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Minipoooot
10/11/11 7:33:00 PM
#32:


Okay how about this question- is there a better ps one era game I can download and play right now that you would recommend? Or really any game I can download on the PS3?

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Lopen
10/11/11 7:34:00 PM
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You should play one for sure. I would try to find Twin Snakes used, though.

Twin Snakes naysayers are usually just blinded by nostalgia I think. Difficulty spawned from limiting controls is not really a good thing-- yeah some of the fights are a lot easier in Twin Snakes but that works in its favor more than anything as the fights it makes easier were more obnoxious than challenging in the first place. Not being able to aim where you want isn't real difficulty.

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pjbasis
10/11/11 7:34:00 PM
#34:


MGS is a Top 20 game, PS1 version.
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ZFS
10/11/11 7:35:00 PM
#35:


You should be fine, then. Most people can still enjoy the game for the first time today. MGS1 is its own game that has its own rules, and as long as you adjust to its style you'll be fine.

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Lopen
10/11/11 7:37:00 PM
#36:


I'd recommend Final Fantasy Tactics over MGS. That game has held up. Or FFVII because it doesn't have a superior remake. Or SotN (oh whoops you played this one already). Or probably a decent amount of other ones if I cared enough to look at what they have.

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LeonhartFour
10/11/11 7:38:00 PM
#37:


From: SHINE GET 64 | #020
Ocelot, Mei Ling and Nastasha being worse than MGS1


What! Ocelot and Mei Ling are two of the few characters who are improved in Twin Snakes!

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Minipoooot
10/11/11 7:38:00 PM
#38:


Eh, whatever. Downloading it now. Thanks for your opinions, everybody!

From: Lopen | #035
I'd recommend Final Fantasy Tactics over MGS. That game has held up. Or FFVII because it doesn't have a superior remake. Or SotN (oh whoops you played this one already). Or probably a decent amount of other ones if I cared enough to look at what they have.


Ah, Tactics is another game I'd like to play. Maybe next time!

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ZFS
10/11/11 7:38:00 PM
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Nah, it's not nostalgia at all. I've probably played Twin Snakes more than you, Lopen! It totally breaks the fine balance of the original with unnecessary gameplay additions from MGS2. There's nothing inherently wrong with adding them, but you have to rebalance the game when you do, and Silicon Knights didn't. The GCN controller is also a nightmare compared to the Dual Shock, in my opinion.

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Emporer_Kazbar
10/11/11 7:39:00 PM
#40:


Yeah, TS Ocelot >>>> MGS Ocelot

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SHINE GET 64
10/11/11 7:39:00 PM
#41:


the game I'd probably recommend most on PSN is Breath of Fire IV

great RPG and only $6 and not $10 like all the square games

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ZFS
10/11/11 7:40:00 PM
#42:


Vagrant Story is one to check out. Crash games are great, too!

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SHINE GET 64
10/11/11 7:41:00 PM
#43:


oh wait did I really type Ocelot?

I meant Otacon. He sounded so disinterested the entire time

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ZFS
10/11/11 7:41:00 PM
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BoFIV also a good RPG.

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Minipoooot
10/11/11 7:41:00 PM
#45:


From: SHINE GET 64 | #041
the game I'd probably recommend most on PSN is Breath of Fire IV

great RPG and only $6 and not $10 like all the square games


Never played a BoF game. I'll look into it.

From: ZFS | #042
Vagrant Story is one to check out. Crash games are great, too!


Played all the Crash games. Never Vagrant Story though. So many games to play!

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Emporer_Kazbar
10/11/11 7:41:00 PM
#46:


From: SHINE GET 64 | #043
oh wait did I really type Ocelot?

I meant Otacon


Oh, that's definitely correct then.

I don't know why TS made Otacon so whiny in comparison to the first.

Though the Otacon ending is hilarious in TS.

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TheKnightOfNee
10/11/11 7:43:00 PM
#47:


I'll jump on the "BoF4 is a good game" bandwagon, with no other purpose but to say I like the game.

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SHINE GET 64
10/11/11 7:43:00 PM
#48:


but yeah Ocelot is great

like Star Fox 64 I have all his lines memorized

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LeonhartFour
10/11/11 7:44:00 PM
#49:


I bust out Ocelot lines from time to time because Patric Zimmerman is so great.

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Lopen
10/11/11 7:44:00 PM
#50:


I agree with you that Twin Snakes breaks the gameplay in some places, but as I said difficulty that spawns from inability to easily aim where you want isn't satisfying difficulty and that's largely why MGS doesn't hold up very well today (still playable, as I said, but not that enjoyable compared to the others). It's not like you can't still get difficulty out of the game, though. TTS on Extreme is certainly no cakewalk!

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