Board 8 > The Show EP 2 - Breaking Down the Rivals Bracket PART ONE (w/ Alec!)

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Ngamer64
10/25/11 4:26:00 PM
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Season Three rolls on, with the second of three pre-Contest episodes!

http://board8.speedrunwiki.com/interviews/theshow/20111024-TheShowEP02.mp3

This week yo and I invited on the always-enjoyable Alec and broke down all the most debated matches from the first half of this season's bracket. It was another somewhat shorter episode (by Show standards!) but it's packed with great bracket advice, some laughs, and even a song to pay tribute to the new Contest season. In other words, a can't-miss episode!

Quick Outline:
* Wasted opportunities: bashing SB over bad bracket placements

* Bracket breakdown Part One: quick takes on the most debated 1st round matches, including...
Kirby/Meta Knight vs Jill/Nemesis
Donkey Kong/K Rool vs Ezio/Rodrigo
Big Boss/The Boss vs Tidus/Jecht
Alucard/Dracula vs Shepard/Saren
Gordon Freeman/Dr. Breen vs Phoenix Wright/Edgeworth
and many more!

* Tiebreaker advice: stats and trends to help you pick total votes in the Championship Match

PS - I'd highly recommend pulling up the bracket in one of your tabs as you listen, so you can follow along more easily:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/features/rivals_entry


Coming next week- we figure out winners for the toughest matches in R2 and onwards... and two days later the first match will kick off, whooooo!



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LeonhartFour
10/25/11 4:28:00 PM
#2:


About time! I let the other topic purge like a week ago because I thought we were getting one Show a week!

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Ngamer64
10/25/11 4:30:00 PM
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Welllll, that's the general plan, true, but four episodes before there was even a match result to discuss felt like a little bit of overkill.

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AlecTrevelyan006
10/25/11 4:32:00 PM
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Tag to not listen.

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voltch
10/25/11 4:34:00 PM
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Lets do this.

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RPGLord95
10/25/11 4:39:00 PM
#6:


Sweet! Something to listen to when I get home

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voltch
10/25/11 4:39:00 PM
#7:


Yoblazer's drunk.

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voltch
10/25/11 4:47:00 PM
#8:


Alec awesome as always.

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voltch
10/25/11 4:48:00 PM
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People called this bracket a perfect bracket potential?

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LeonhartFour
10/25/11 4:50:00 PM
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From: voltch | #009
People called this bracket a perfect bracket potential?


I think it has the potential for someone to get a perfect bracket if it turns out as boring as many expect. There are maybe two difficult divisions in the contest, and it's not difficult to conceive that someone could perfect them.

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voltch
10/25/11 4:52:00 PM
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I reckon we got a few swerves in there that could murder brackets.

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AlecTrevelyan006
10/25/11 4:52:00 PM
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We always hear there'll be a perfect bracket every contest.

Screw that, I won't let any of you do better than my (Perfect - 1)!

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LeonhartFour
10/25/11 4:54:00 PM
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From: voltch | #011
I reckon we got a few swerves in there that could murder brackets.


I hope we get them. But if the bracket is chalk (and there's a chance it will be), the potential for a perfect bracket is there.

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voltch
10/25/11 4:55:00 PM
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Alec feels neutered by the editing of Ngamer.

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IngmarBirdman
10/25/11 4:56:00 PM
#15:


Squall v. Sora isn't a guarantee!

(But if it does happen it will be lame once again.)

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voltch
10/25/11 5:07:00 PM
#16:


Combined levels of suck!

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voltch
10/25/11 5:23:00 PM
#17:


DISSIDIA BOOST!

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LinkMarioSamus
10/25/11 5:29:00 PM
#18:


I know I said I'd never watch one of these again, but there's a low chance I won't be following that.

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 5:29:00 PM
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Tag. Wish I could listen to it now but I have a bunch of tests to study for :(

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WiggumFan267
10/25/11 5:30:00 PM
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tag

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 5:39:00 PM
#21:


Actually screw it i'm listening to this.

Song sucks ass. (yoblazer's)

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voltch
10/25/11 5:40:00 PM
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Show rating: ***

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 5:41:00 PM
#23:


Switch fox and sonic? Are you on crack? Do you not want mario vs. sonic?

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LeonhartFour
10/25/11 5:42:00 PM
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From: whatisurnameplz | #023
Switch fox and sonic? Are you on crack? Do you not want mario vs. sonic?


Not like this.

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 5:45:00 PM
#25:


Alec sounds just like a teacher at my school. Weird. I imagine him saying what Alec says!

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 5:47:00 PM
#26:


Snake won't beat ff7 because Liquid is absolutely fodderific.

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 5:48:00 PM
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The words "hitler" don't surprise you, yo?

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PartOfYourWorld
10/25/11 5:51:00 PM
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From: whatisurnameplz | #023
Switch fox and sonic? Are you on crack? Do you not want mario vs. sonic?


Like everyone else, I would have much preferred Mario and Sonic as a team. Personally, I don't much care if they ever meet in a match, because we've been given tons of indications over the years that the match will be boring and of little significance. And IF they're finally going to meet, doing it in this one-time format cheapens it regardless.

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 5:53:00 PM
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I just picked Ezio because he isn't getting weaker and because it's a night match.

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LeonhartFour
10/25/11 5:54:00 PM
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A night match won't help Ezio as much as you think.

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FFaddict1313
10/25/11 5:56:00 PM
#31:


Matches like Mario/Bowser vs Sonic/Robotnik have never been exciting. Arguments for Sonic/Robotnik are pretty much as valid as arguments for Ganondorf > Link.

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AlecTrevelyan006
10/25/11 5:56:00 PM
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From: whatisurnameplz | #025
Alec sounds just like a teacher at my school. Weird. I imagine him saying what Alec says!


What does my vocal doppleganger teach?

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 5:56:00 PM
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Who cares about Mortal Kombat?

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FFaddict1313
10/25/11 5:57:00 PM
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From: LeonhartFour | Posted: 10/25/2011 8:54:50 PM
A night match won't help Ezio as much as you think.

Is he even better during the night? If DK is as consistent between night/day as this show claimed, I wouldn't be surprised if DK benefits from the night match.

Shouldn't really matter all that much anyway, though.

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 5:58:00 PM
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I'm officially not everybody now because I never played MK!

Nobody hates them because nobody cares about them.

Great arguments!

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 5:59:00 PM
#36:


Attn Ngamer: This ain't the 90s anymore.

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 5:59:00 PM
#37:


Who's Seymour?

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SuperAngelo128
10/25/11 6:00:00 PM
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will listen in a bit

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LeonhartFour
10/25/11 6:00:00 PM
#39:


Ezio is a day character, and DK is pretty balanced, in terms of trends.

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PartOfYourWorld
10/25/11 6:03:00 PM
#40:


Like Ryu and Street Fighter, Sub-Zero and Scorpion have always been strong relative to their games, especially Subz. Their combined strength is greater than that of Leon and Ada (Leon is likely the strongest of the four, but Ada is by far the weakest). Throw in the popular theory that the ninjas' rivalry does a lot more for them than Leon/Ada's, and you have a match with a clear favorite. The fact that MK is stronger than Resident Evil during the day makes it even easier.

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 6:04:00 PM
#41:


I just picked Tidus and co because it's a day match.

edit: actually this is pretty tough. I could go with either.

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LeonhartFour
10/25/11 6:04:00 PM
#42:


Sub-Zero wouldn't lose that badly to Leon Kennedy anyway.

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IngmarBirdman
10/25/11 6:04:00 PM
#43:


Attn Ngamer: This ain't the 90s anymore.

Majora's Mask.

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 6:05:00 PM
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From: PartOfYourWorld | #040
Like Ryu and Street Fighter, Sub-Zero and Scorpion have always been strong relative to their games, especially Subz. Their combined strength is greater than that of Leon and Ada (Leon is likely the strongest of the four, but Ada is by far the weakest). Throw in the popular theory that the ninjas' rivalry does a lot more for them than Leon/Ada's, and you have a match with a clear favorite. The fact that MK is stronger than Resident Evil during the day makes it even easier.


Baffling.

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 6:13:00 PM
#45:


Behold:

Yo's stupidity, along with...

http://www.unikgamer.com/tops/favorite-video-games-of-all-time-1.html

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 6:14:00 PM
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Do people honestly think that other people give a **** about a ****ing vampire?

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whatisurnameplz
10/25/11 6:16:00 PM
#47:


A man doesn't know how to pick a contest match!

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-LusterSoldier-
10/25/11 7:03:00 PM
#48:


When Ngamer talked about predicting the vote totals in the final match of this contest and he referenced my stats, he was referring to these stats:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tIpdES4GIvHTXSXboxVJZoA

The 2011 average listed on there was the overall average at the end of September and doesn't count any polls from October, since I only update that page once a month. The average dropped from 56927 to 56342 during this month alone, thanks to almost every poll having less than 56000 votes. But the monthly averages tell the real story here.

January 2011 - 51807
February 2011 - 66434
March 2011 - 65054
April 2011 - 61544
May 2011 - 59478
June 2011 - 54889
July 2011 - 52673
August 2011 - 51078
September 2011 - 50179
October 2011 - 49688
Average for the year - 56342

Only 4 out of the 10 months during this year have average vote totals that are above the average vote totals for the entire year. February through May carried most of the weight for this year, thanks to games like MvC3, Pokemon Black/White, Portal 2, and Mortal Kombat. There haven't been any big releases at all since April and vote totals started to collapse again when we reached June. For reference, we have not had a single poll get above 70000 votes since the poll from May 30th. It's been nearly 5 months since any non-contest poll got above 70000 votes.

Since July, the polls have been struggling just to break 60000 votes. When Game of the Decade started last year, the average vote totals were at 61422 for the 19 non-contest polls during October 2010 before the contest started. Still a lot better than the average vote totals we are seeing right now. Vote totals for Game of the Decade suffered because there was a poor line-up of games near the end of 2010. All of the big 2010 games were in the first half of the year. The games in the 3-way GotY poll were released in the first half of 2010.

2011 has the advantage of a stacked line-up for November to help out those vote totals. Plus, I like to think that Link/Mario does a better job at drawing in votes than Majora's Mask/Brawl. Somewhere between 80000 and 85000 would be a good guess.

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LeonhartFour
10/25/11 7:57:00 PM
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Okay, let's listen to this thing.

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LeonhartFour
10/25/11 7:58:00 PM
#50:


I was about to ask if yoblazer improved that song or prepared it beforehand.

Impressive.

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