Board 8 > Save My Black/White Pokemon - DAY 138

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Bigwig_rah
10/27/11 3:09:00 PM
#151:


Joltik

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PrinceKaro
10/27/11 3:10:00 PM
#152:


I would have never saved Lampent if Joltik wasn't safe.

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Some_Character
10/27/11 3:10:00 PM
#153:


I kinda got carried away with the crocs being in the clear. I think I may have singlehandedly caused the elimination of today. I suck.

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XIII_rocks
10/27/11 3:10:00 PM
#154:


Oh no, I missed a couple of Litwick saves

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GenesisSaga
10/27/11 3:10:00 PM
#155:


junk_funk posted...
So Joltik is gone due to SC being early? Amirite?

I think it is.

That's really some bulls*** there.

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Bigwig_rah
10/27/11 3:10:00 PM
#156:


I too would have never saved Lampent if Joltik and Archeops weren't safe.

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SuorGenoveffa
10/27/11 3:11:00 PM
#157:


Neither would have I.

Well lol.
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PrinceKaro
10/27/11 3:11:00 PM
#158:


I think we should do a four-way tiebreaker with the bottom four.

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speedpunk
10/27/11 3:11:00 PM
#159:


I think Litwick is out as of Bigwig's save. :(

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XIII_rocks
10/27/11 3:11:00 PM
#160:


Holy s***

Krookodile, Krokrok, Lampent and Litwick surviving that in the position they were in at the top of page 3 is a f***ing miracle. Awesome.

Eliminated: Joltik

Unfortunately, because Joltik is cute.

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barreldragon88
10/27/11 3:12:00 PM
#161:


lol Litwick gets even more hate now.

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PrinceKaro
10/27/11 3:12:00 PM
#162:


speedpunk posted...
I think Litwick is out as of Bigwig's save. :(

Huh, is someone else early?

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XIII_rocks
10/27/11 3:12:00 PM
#163:


McMoogle, Punk and Pokewars saved Litwick to bring it to 10. SomeC is the only one in the rush who saved Joltik and he was early. Right?

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swordz9
10/27/11 3:13:00 PM
#164:


I seriously hope Joltik isn't gone because somebody didn't pay attention to their save times. That's a horrible way for any Pokemon to leave.

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SuorGenoveffa
10/27/11 3:13:00 PM
#165:


swordz9 posted...
I seriously hope Joltik isn't gone because somebody didn't pay attention to their save times. That's a horrible way for any Pokemon to leave.

I'm afraid that's what happened.
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Some_Character
10/27/11 3:13:00 PM
#166:


Wait, my last save post contained only Excadrill. Would that mean that my Archeops save did in fact count?

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XIII_rocks
10/27/11 3:14:00 PM
#167:


Not as bad as a Pokemon being eliminated due to a brainfart >_>

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PrinceKaro
10/27/11 3:14:00 PM
#168:


swordz9 posted...
I seriously hope Joltik isn't gone because somebody didn't pay attention to their save times. That's a horrible way for any Pokemon to leave.

This is exactly what happened. Thus we should have a tiebreaker of some sort, as Lampent would not have gotten all those saves without Joltik being supposedly safe.

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XIII_rocks
10/27/11 3:15:00 PM
#169:


Oh wait, you're right. I think in previous topics you've been able to choose which you can save.

In this case that would mean the end of the one you choose not to save, since Litwick was safe before Archeops got another save.

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Bigwig_rah
10/27/11 3:15:00 PM
#170:


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XIII_rocks
10/27/11 3:15:00 PM
#171:


From: PrinceKaro | #168
swordz9 posted...
I seriously hope Joltik isn't gone because somebody didn't pay attention to their save times. That's a horrible way for any Pokemon to leave.

This is exactly what happened. Thus we should have a tiebreaker of some sort, as Lampent would not have gotten all those saves without Joltik being supposedly safe.


No, there is a degree of precedent for this. SomeC just made a mistake. An unfortunate mistake and I feel bad for him, but there it is.

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JoItik
10/27/11 3:16:00 PM
#172:


Can I haz saves?

=(

(yes yes Joitik)
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PrinceKaro
10/27/11 3:16:00 PM
#173:


Some_Character posted...
Wait, my last save post contained only Excadrill. Would that mean that my Archeops save did in fact count?

Whoa, whoa! If that's right, one of your saves would have counted!

(Choose Joltik, imo)

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mnkboy907
10/27/11 3:16:00 PM
#174:


From: XIII_rocks | #167
Not as bad as a Pokemon being eliminated due to a brainfart >_>


Actually it is worse, because it made other people save things they otherwise would've have saved if they knew Archeops/Joltik weren't safe.

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Some_Character
10/27/11 3:16:00 PM
#175:


We'll need a host's input on this.

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SuorGenoveffa
10/27/11 3:16:00 PM
#176:


PrinceKaro posted...
swordz9 posted...
I seriously hope Joltik isn't gone because somebody didn't pay attention to their save times. That's a horrible way for any Pokemon to leave.

This is exactly what happened. Thus we should have a tiebreaker of some sort, as Lampent would not have gotten all those saves without Joltik being supposedly safe.


Joltik was my 3rd favorite in this and I'm honestly shocked at the way things turned out. But unfortunately, someone being careless doesn't count as a reason for a tiebereaker IMO. The way rules are set, Litwick and Lampent got to 10 before Joltik did.
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GenesisSaga
10/27/11 3:17:00 PM
#177:


Some_Character posted...
I kinda got carried away with the crocs being in the clear. I think I may have singlehandedly caused the elimination of today. I suck.

I kind of have to agree with you there. No deleting saves when very few pokémon are remaining. No exceptions. If you hadn't deleted, one of your saves could've counted since you'd only saved Excadrill in the past hour.

In the future, don't delete saves during a vote rush. Ever.

Yep. Joltik's gone by technicality. >_>

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XIII_rocks
10/27/11 3:17:00 PM
#178:


By my count if SomeC chooses Archeops, joltik is eliminated and vice versa.

Litwick is safe in either case, since there were no saves for EITHER Archeops or Joltik until whipper saved Archeops.

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mnkboy907
10/27/11 3:18:00 PM
#179:


From: Some_Character | #175
We'll need a host's input on this.


Yeah, I'd say this time we shouldn't all jump on what we think should happen, and instead just wait for Immortal's decision.

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Pokewars
10/27/11 3:18:00 PM
#180:


Lol, what?

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Bigwig_rah
10/27/11 3:18:00 PM
#181:


Let me and PrinceKaro take back our Lampent votes and restart things from there.

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junk_funk
10/27/11 3:19:00 PM
#182:


I wonder if I can turn this "early save/delete post" tactic in my favor to screw over other snipers out there. (Jk of course)

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Some_Character
10/27/11 3:19:00 PM
#183:


And if I were forced to choose between Archeops and Joltik I would choose Archeops. So nothing would change.

And I repeatedly told myself not to screw up. Irony is a jerk.

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SuorGenoveffa
10/27/11 3:20:00 PM
#184:


You guys understand that even if he was allowed to choose, and he chooses Joltik, things would be the same but with Archeops being eliminated right?

I'm afraid there's no way to right this.
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XIII_rocks
10/27/11 3:20:00 PM
#185:


From: mnkboy907 | #180
Yeah, I'd say this time we shouldn't all jump on what we think should happen, and instead just wait for Immortal's decision.


Well there are two things that can be done.

SomeC's save is disregarded, since he deleted it
SomeC's save is counted despite the deletion and he gets to choose which Pokemon to save, which eliminates Archeops or Joltik (there were no Archeops or Joltik saves in that rush until well after Litwick was safe. Whipper saved Archeops after Litwick's 10th save)

Based on past precedent, the fact that SomeC made a mistake and affected certain people's votings is just very unfortunate.

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mnkboy907
10/27/11 3:21:00 PM
#186:


From: Some_Character | #183
And if I were forced to choose between Archeops and Joltik I would choose Archeops. So nothing would change.

And I repeatedly told myself not to screw up. Irony is a jerk.


Well in that case, I don't think there's really anything to be done.

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GenesisSaga
10/27/11 3:22:00 PM
#187:


SuorGenoveffa posted...
You guys understand that even if he was allowed to choose, and he chooses Joltik, things would be the same but with Archeops being eliminated right?

I'm afraid there's no way to right this.


Speak for yourself. Archeops totally is a "right" elimination at this point imo. But at any rate whipper saved it and no, save posts that have been deleted don't count even if people see them

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JoItik
10/27/11 3:22:00 PM
#188:


:3

:(

joitik is sad
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XIII_rocks
10/27/11 3:23:00 PM
#189:


Right, so he chooses Archeops. Joltik is eliminated either way, whether you choose to count his deleted save or not.

The fact that he affected later votes is very unfortunate and a real shame for Joltik fans - and I mean this sincerely, because I think it's cute, even if it is the one I like the least of that bottom 6 - but nothing more. No tiebreaker necessary.

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Some_Character
10/27/11 3:23:00 PM
#190:


I guess all that can be done now is keep saving not-candles to get it right next time.

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XIII_rocks
10/27/11 3:23:00 PM
#191:


From: GenesisSaga | #187
SuorGenoveffa posted...
You guys understand that even if he was allowed to choose, and he chooses Joltik, things would be the same but with Archeops being eliminated right?

I'm afraid there's no way to right this.


Speak for yourself. Archeops totally is a "right" elimination at this point imo. But at any rate whipper saved it and no, save posts that have been deleted don't count even if people see them


Oh, alright then. Open-and-shut case, just a very sucky one.

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PrinceKaro
10/27/11 3:23:00 PM
#192:


XIII_rocks posted...
Based on past precedent, the fact that SomeC made a mistake and affected certain people's votings is just very unfortunate.

It was more than just 'certain people', all three votes for Lampent (and quite possibly some of the ones for Litwick) were based on the assumption Joltik/Archops were safe.

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SuorGenoveffa
10/27/11 3:24:00 PM
#193:


GenesisSaga posted...
SuorGenoveffa posted...
You guys understand that even if he was allowed to choose, and he chooses Joltik, things would be the same but with Archeops being eliminated right?

I'm afraid there's no way to right this.

Speak for yourself. Archeops totally is a "right" elimination at this point imo. But at any rate whipper saved it and no, save posts that have been deleted don't count even if people see them


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Some_Character
10/27/11 3:24:00 PM
#194:


Quite dumb really that the one who boosted Lampwick to advancement this time was an opposer of the two.

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XIII_rocks
10/27/11 3:24:00 PM
#195:


It was more than just 'certain people', all three votes for Lampent (and quite possibly some of the ones for Litwick) were based on the assumption Joltik/Archops were safe.

True. Changes nothing though =/

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GenesisSaga
10/27/11 3:26:00 PM
#196:


SuorGenoveffa posted...
GenesisSaga posted...
SuorGenoveffa posted...
You guys understand that even if he was allowed to choose, and he chooses Joltik, things would be the same but with Archeops being eliminated right?

I'm afraid there's no way to right this.

Speak for yourself. Archeops totally is a "right" elimination at this point imo. But at any rate whipper saved it and no, save posts that have been deleted don't count even if people see them

I like Joltik more than Archeops and I would support a switch, but I'm speaking about technicalities here. Eliminating either of them would've been the result of a huge mistake made at the end of the round.


True.

Hell, even I was prepared to save Archeops to eliminate Litwick (would've been both my first and last vote for the archeopteryx), but I restrained myself when I saw SomeC's post.

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Dewott
10/27/11 3:28:00 PM
#197:


Silver_Ermine you have every right to be pissed. Your favorite remaining pokémon was eliminated due to a mistake. Sorry bro. I'm here if you need a hug.

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XIII_rocks
10/27/11 3:29:00 PM
#198:


Oh yeah, poor Ermine. He loves Joltik =/

At least this time he can't accuse the entire game of having bad taste !!

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Some_Character
10/27/11 3:30:00 PM
#199:


If anything good taste was what allowed this crap to happen.

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speedpunk
10/27/11 3:33:00 PM
#200:


Fantastic elimination.

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