Board 8 > Zen Talks About the Match Pics Part 2: Spirit of Vengeance

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greatone10
12/07/11 6:55:00 PM
#51:


I didn't actually submit that parody pic to Bacon. It would have never gotten chosen even with this bad selection, with only two of the four being represented.

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LeonhartFour
12/07/11 6:56:00 PM
#52:


Well, you could've fit Samus and The Boss in there somewhere!

Make Samus ride on Ridley's back or something...!

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Menji76
12/07/11 6:56:00 PM
#53:


From: XIII_rocks | #048
I mean seriously, did somebody watch a youtube video of a Big Boss vs. The Boss cutscene, pause it, take a screenshot and crop it? O_o


I know. It's a cool image but blurry as ****. There are higher qualities out there.

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AxemRedRanger
12/07/11 6:56:00 PM
#54:


So, uh, has anyone in here made an awesome Frog/Magus pic for their match with the vampires?
Because they're probably gonna need it.

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greatone10
12/07/11 6:58:00 PM
#55:


From: AxemRedRanger | #054
So, uh, has anyone in here made an awesome Frog/Magus pic for their match with the vampires?
Because they're probably gonna need it.


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You think this represents them well enough?

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ZenOfThunder
12/07/11 7:03:00 PM
#56:


52: Samus/Ridley vs Boss/Boss
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OH LAWDY LAWDY DID NOBODY SUBMIT A USABLE PIC BUT THIS ONE?

What the hell is this? What is with the empty space between Samus and Ridley? Why such an ugly Samus costume? Why is she all COME AT ME BRO? Why is Ridley going "ewwwwww?" Why is the Boss pic just a lazy crop with no adjustments? Why a random 8 bit font for the Metroid guys? So many questions...

Overall: 2/10ish

everyone focusing on making Trainers/Fighters pics really hit this one hard, huh?

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Menji76
12/07/11 7:04:00 PM
#57:


From: greatone10 | #055
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You think this represents them well enough?


I've never played Castlevania, but is that really the best sprite to represent them? I don't even know what I'm looking at. Rest looks good.

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LeonhartFour
12/07/11 7:05:00 PM
#58:


The problem is that SOTN sprites are ugly.

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ZenOfThunder
12/07/11 7:05:00 PM
#59:


I have no idea what's going on in the middle of that Dracula/Alucard pic. I think you need a different background or something?

Maybe just take the scene with Richter and Dracula and just put Alucard over Richter. Not sure if that'd piss off Castlevania fans, though...

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greatone10
12/07/11 7:09:00 PM
#60:


It's the beginning of the final boss of SOTN. The bat thing in the middle is Dracula.

This is the problem with that match in general. SOTN is bats*** ugly with sprites and Chrono Trigger is the complete inverse.

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ZenOfThunder
12/07/11 7:10:00 PM
#61:


You just gotta make the crappy sprites stand out as much as you can, then. :(

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KanzarisKelshen
12/07/11 7:11:00 PM
#62:


From: greatone10 | #060
It's the beginning of the final boss of SOTN. The bat thing in the middle is Dracula.

This is the problem with that match in general. SOTN is bats*** ugly with sprites and Chrono Trigger is the complete inverse.


Use Alucard's Genya Arikado sprite? Give Dracula his Final Stage: Bloodlines normal vampire sprite? I'm not a pic maker, but I know that that pic isn't even trying. It's easy to get something good out of Castlevania.

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greatone10
12/07/11 7:50:00 PM
#63:


Oh god, I just noticed the mouse arrow in the Frog/Magus pic. How the hell did I miss that? Well, that will give me the opportunity to play around with the Aludrac half and see if I can't find a decent background without too much hassle.

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ZenOfThunder
12/07/11 7:50:00 PM
#64:


Wow I missed that too. How does that even happen??

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WarThaNemesis2
12/07/11 7:52:00 PM
#65:


Now I wish you hadn't noticed it and Bacon chose it.

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XIII_rocks
12/07/11 7:53:00 PM
#66:


XFD
Mouse Arrow Frogus pic I want it

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greatone10
12/07/11 7:54:00 PM
#67:


To be fair, it's right next to that rock so it blends in almost perfectly.

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MarvelousGerbil
12/07/11 7:56:00 PM
#68:


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Samus with the "come at me bro" factor!

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greatone10
12/07/11 8:21:00 PM
#69:


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"Sometimes, the best solution to a problem is the easiest one." Indeed, GLaDOS, why even use sprites for Castlevania when it's freeform round and you can use whatever you want. Pic is from Castlevania Judgment, and while it's not the most critically acclaimed installment of the series, it looks god damn amazing and that's the point of pic making.

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LeonhartFour
12/07/11 8:21:00 PM
#70:


Should've left the mouse arrow in

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XIII_rocks
12/07/11 8:22:00 PM
#71:


From: LeonhartFour | #070
Should've left the mouse arrow in


seconded

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ZenOfThunder
12/07/11 8:22:00 PM
#72:


it's kinda washed out

also when I used Judgment Alucard that one time people lost their s***

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ZenOfThunder
12/07/11 8:24:00 PM
#73:


FAMOUS MATCH PIC BLUNDERS:

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Do you see it? It's a stray Battletoad sprite! I forgot to delete the layer when I decided not to use it. Bacon didn't notice, I guess?

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LOOK AT THAT Mario's finger is yellow!!! THE MADNESS!


I'll post more if I think of any.

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LeonhartFour
12/07/11 8:28:00 PM
#74:


Are we just posting mistakes in our own match pics or just any match pic?

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greatone10
12/07/11 8:29:00 PM
#75:


Well, I'm only picking on myself really.

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greatone10
12/07/11 8:33:00 PM
#76:


Sort of Famous Match Pic Laziness

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That Ridley is totally not from Metroid Prime and is actually from Brawl.

Also, what the hell did I do to that poor Fallout 3 logo?

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LeonhartFour
12/07/11 8:33:00 PM
#77:


I abused blur on some of the pics I made to compensate for my inability to get rid of little white jaggies, etc.

And some of my pics were just straight crop jobs, too. Whoo.

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ZenOfThunder
12/07/11 8:42:00 PM
#78:


ZEN POSTS SOME RANDOM PICS AND COMMENTS ON THEM because he likes to procrastinaaaaate

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Remember this one? A great Wander pic was submitted but it was TOO CLOSE TO HIS FACE so Bacon opted to use this piece of garbage and wouldn't change it. Seriously characters with 0 chance of getting out of Round 1 should looser pic limitations.

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Like five people submitted that exact generic Big Daddy pic and they all claimed it was theirs. I forget whose it was in the end, but does it matter? It's probably the most unoriginal pic you could make... Hence why like five people submitted it.

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People threatened to kill me over the internet for this one. Judgment Alucard was JUST released like a week before this and when the pic went up people were like WHY IS LIGHT FROM DEATH NOTE IN ALUCARD'S PLACE? ZEEEEEN! (This was actual sabotage as I wanted Captain Falcon to win).

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#1 character to get cropped pics every time: ARTHAS. The guy is always behind a stupid snowstorm or something and nobody wants to render it so Albion just takes some crappy pic and crops it in paint and Bacon accepts it.

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God, if this format ever happens again WE HAVE TO COORDINATE BACKGROUND GRADIENTS. We had all these pics where 3 characters would have blue gradients and one would have red or something and it looked dumb. Or we should just make a rule that every pic should have like 2 variants with different colored gradients or something. Always submit a variation, folks. It doesn't take much longer and it could increase your chance and just make the pic look better.

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Again, LET US SUBMIT FACE PICS.

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I remember I submitted a picture of Jinjo upside-down and everyone loved it, then JUSTIN IMMEDIATELY WENT "HEY THAT'S COOL" AND DID THE SAME EXACT THING. People really tore into him; he was like the dumb new kid back then. Now he's rolling high with the big boys.

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hahaha oh man we later found out that the pic isn't even of MacMillan, it was from some gun enthusiast magazine and it was just some guy showing off a product. Goddamn what a disaster. Not to mention his was like vomit green against three blue badasses (or at least as badass as Riku gets)

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Sandbag staring at Magus' codpiece

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Subby staring at Rydia's boobies. Also Auron is fanart, lawl.

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jesus christ I forgot about nana. Look how centered she and Ratchet were. You gotta plan for the names, dammit!

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ACTION FIGURE KRATOS

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my first attempt at making Pokemon font. What a goddamn failure. Also Bacon wasn't kidding when he said he wanted face shots. Look at the Duke there holy hell.

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liquid looks like liquid poop

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protip: if a character spends like 98% of his time wearing a mask, do NOT use art of him maskless for your pic. Thank you.

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ZenOfThunder
12/07/11 8:43:00 PM
#79:


I was posting mistakes in any pic that I remembered

I don't think anyone has left a mouse cursor in a pic before, though. we should do that sometime

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greatone10
12/07/11 8:49:00 PM
#80:


From: ZenOfThunder | #078
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protip: if a character spends like 98% of his time wearing a mask, do NOT use art of him maskless for your pic. Thank you.


AUGH THAT SCORPION PIC! It cost us from seeing my MOVIE SCORPION in the match pic.

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JaKyL25
12/07/11 8:55:00 PM
#81:


From: ZenOfThunder | #056
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It's almost like Samus is sticking her chest out in a vain attempt at getting TJF votes, but forgot she has thick armor on.

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ZenOfThunder
12/07/11 8:56:00 PM
#82:


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People spazzed out cuz they couldn't read the Y in Ryu's name and claimed it was like R4U or something. It was just super stylized font. I think it was some unofficial SFIV font, even! Did the name being legible even matter?

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MORE BLUE TEAM PICS oh my god the "just heads" thing is so dumb. Look how dumb Tidus looks. Also his hair is rendered poorly.

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KP had this amazing Vivi pic he tried so hard to get accepted and that garbage got in instead. omg bacon. also I think Ryu might be fanart?

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"lol"

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SUB-ZERO IS A BADASS. SANDBAG NEEDS TO LEARN WHAT A GRADIENT IS.

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My first freeform pic ever and it's AWFUL. Well not awful but it wasn't very good. I didn't know how to blend things right back then. Also, Altair's font is from Army of Darkness.

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"lol"

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"lol"

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God Liquid looks so awful in every pic he's ever been in ever.

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holy jesus look it's the precursor to my Pokemon pic. I was like OH MAN BEATLES TRIBUTE but nobody got it and was just all "I CAN'T SEE IT WAAAAAH." I remember how hard it was for me to achieve this effect back then and being so proud, but now I could probably do it in like 10 minutes.

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what the hell was I thinking

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incredible

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"HA HA I'll put 13.37 as the frequency I'm so cool"

I was so not cool

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This is so strange. I THINK I know how it was done but I'll be damned if I can replicate it.

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I always wondered how Aga did this. I asked him on AIM if he was gonna make pics and he said "oh I forgot about that" and posted this literally an hour later. How the HELL did he do this so fast and how did he do it in general??

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ha ha oh man look at that outer glow. I am such a goddamn idiot

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infamous "mewtwo staring at cloud's crotch anxiously" pic. I can't get enough of this. What were they thinking?!

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...why team fortress 2

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I forget whose this was but they IMed me saying OH MAN I'M GONNA MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE SKETCHED ONTO PAPER like this was an original idea that hadn't been done like 5 times already

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"what" was the reaction everyone had to this pic. Another Aga mystery. He was truly the best; he had that spinoff GameFAQs site that had their own character battle and he made all the match pics, and they were INCREDIBLE. Unfortunately, he lost them all :( I wish I could find them somewhere...

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LeonhartFour
12/07/11 8:58:00 PM
#83:


That last pic still gives me nightmares to this day

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ZenOfThunder
12/07/11 9:02:00 PM
#84:


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this wasn't even Zach, just someone in a similar costume with a similar sword. Also I need to give a lesson on the transform/warp tool sometime or something

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THIS IS BADASS and I think I could do it if given the time but it'd be difficult. I randomly thought about this pic about a month ago, which shows how much it made an impression on me I guess.

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This isn't the best pic but I love the idea. I tried something similar with tophats but it was too much.

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people seemed to like this at the time but I don't know why they weren't tearing it up for "not being able to see them" and stuff.

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weird

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action figure dante

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PICTURE QUALITYYYYY

also I remember the guy who did this IMing me to ask me if it was a bad idea to put Viewtiful Dante in a pic. My response?

hell no

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SOOOO GOOD good job KP. I remember people whining that they were all player 1 but who cares

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this one also made an impact on me and I don't know why. It looks overly complicated but it really isn't.

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the board was so divided over this one; a lot of people still cite it as one of the worst but I don't think it's all that awful.

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I'm so proud of this one and I don't know why. It's the cover for the gallery on the match pic site and loads of people loved it and looked at it and stuff. It's nothing special but it's really important to me for some reason.


That's it for CB7! I'll do some more sometime soon when I'm procrastinating again.

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greatone10
12/07/11 9:08:00 PM
#85:


I'll fess up to GameFAQs Monopoly, but then again, that whole contest was loaded with gimmicks that really made no sense, and that's not the worst of the lot. I also got the idea to be cute and intentionally misspell Nibelheim Gardens because Cloud was supposed to place in the third slot, and it's a bit of trivia that Marvin Gardens is actually a misspelling of Marven Gardens. Boy that went to hell when Snake upset Cloud and forced me to hastily switch their spots.

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GuessMyUserName
12/07/11 9:17:00 PM
#86:


From: ZenOfThunder | Posted: 12/7/2011 10:03:15 PM | #056
Why such an ugly Samus costume?


Because that's not even Samus at all, it's Dark Samus -___-

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LeonhartFour
12/07/11 9:17:00 PM
#87:


Glorious sig

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LeonhartFour
12/07/11 9:19:00 PM
#88:


From: ZenOfThunder | #084
It's nothing special


And that's partially why it's so good!

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ZenOfThunder
12/07/11 9:21:00 PM
#89:


SCREW IT IT'S BEST GAME EVER 09 TIME

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first match pic AND IT HAS MIKE TYSON also what the hell is that Space Invaders official art? Those don't look anything like the in-game aliens. the atari era was so strange.

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people got SO UPSET that Mega Man got ugly box art. Well... yeah, it's Mega Man. What do you think he's gonna get? And ironically, Mega Man 9 got bad box art and people cheered.

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samus u ugly. also why have a crappy contra pic like that when you can have BIG BEEFY ARNOLD AND STALLONE

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I made that III in the Castlevania III logo myself and was SO PROUD cuz I used gradient overlay. Like whoa breaking out the new technology.

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I don't really get that Tecmo Super Bowl pic but everyone went nuts for it. I guess it's a cult following type of thing? Also wtf SimCityTV

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THIS was goddamn hilarious. Someone was making a Crystalis pic and it was their first and they were like "how do I make the logo stand out" and INSTANTLY three people posted at the same time "outer glow." Nowadays you'd get shot (by me) if you said that, but he then posted a new version with SO MUCH OUTER GLOW that it took up the entire upper half of the pic. We had to teach him how to use it properly.

also dat barf

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"do me in the butt" DK. what the hell? Also we were trying to get THE ROCK in the Doom pic but Bacon wouldn't have it.

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the first time I used a clipping mask (maybe?). I made it so that Link from the opening was INSIDE THE WINDFISH MOUNTAIN. ART. Nobody noticed but me and nobody cared when I went screaming through the stats topic naked shouting "LINK IS INSIDE THE MOUNTAAAAAIN". Also Phantasy Star could have used a better everything, and wtf is with the big moogle

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people complained that Baraka, Johnny Cage and Kung Lao were too obscure, but honestly this is probably the only time they'll ever be on the front page. Give the guys the spotlight! When you're a picsmith you gotta look past the obvious sometimes

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It says PRESS Z OR R TWICE in the Star Fox pic but honestly I have no idea what's even going on in there

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WVI flipped out because Marx gives him nightmares

which is why I made this pic in the first place

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KP made this pic theme that you see in the center two, and also made a Crono Trigger version and maybe a Yoshi version. But because Bacon can't give someone a whole four part pic we missed out and now it looks wrong. Thanks, Bacon. Better pics > Fairness

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WORST ZELDA PIC I EVER MADE. Literally can't even LOOK at it. I had to open this up really quick, copy link location and switch over to this tab because AAAUGHGSHVBD

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"why is the morrowind logo sideways waaaaah"

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UGLY GTAIII FONT AAAARGHSFKVBD

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too many effects on oblivion guy

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greatone10
12/07/11 9:22:00 PM
#90:


From: LeonhartFour | #088
And that's partially why it's so good!


Yeah, it helps that it was just four characters looking as badass as possible, and not being photoshopped into being album covers, or swimming, or being sketched on paper, or on currency, or on board games, or whatever else CB7 had.

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LeonhartFour
12/07/11 9:24:00 PM
#91:


Sometimes simplicity is best.

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LeonhartFour
12/07/11 9:27:00 PM
#93:


What's up with the MGS3 part of the pic?

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JaKyL25
12/07/11 9:30:00 PM
#94:


From: ZenOfThunder | #089
wtf is with the big moogle


That's straight out of the FFVI US box art.

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greatone10
12/07/11 9:31:00 PM
#95:


From: ZenOfThunder | #089
It says PRESS Z OR R TWICE in the Star Fox pic but honestly I have no idea what's even going on in there

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It's just a cropped shot of the Arwing on the box art, with the nearly invisible text there so Bacon wouldn't see it. I really just wanted to sneak in a barrel role reference. I thought splitting the logo into two lines was neat though.

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LeonhartFour
12/07/11 9:48:00 PM
#96:


I'm afraid of the mean things Zen's going to say about all of my pics when he gets to the 2010 Character Battle :((

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LeonhartFour
12/07/11 9:51:00 PM
#97:


From: ZenOfThunder | #096
I bet KP found out how much Squall weights by asking Leon, who has a textbook knowledge of how much Squall weights throughout FFVIII. Did you know he was a half pound lighter during the ballroom scene?


If he had consulted me, he would've gotten Squall's height correct!

Instead he ended up putting down my height and weight by some sort of scary coincidence!

Well what my weight was in 2009 anyway

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ZenOfThunder
12/07/11 9:54:00 PM
#98:


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people said that the slogan (from ARMY OF DARKNESS) gave Snake an unfair advantage. Maybe? I think he was winning anyway...

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this is strange. just cuz girls on facebook turn their photos black and white doesn't mean you should!

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what an odd center. poor SMB3 gets all blended in!

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this was a joke pic I submitted where I was like "Bacon will choose ANYTHING" and he actually chose it. The laziest pic of ALL TIME.

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Hey, Seymour was in a pic before this concert! AND HE STILL LOOKED LIKE ASS!

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...This looks familiar.

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I told you it was a fad! A really bad one.

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good idea, not sure about the execution... reminds me of those Legend of Chun Li posters everyone was making fun of

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look ma I can use paint

we were doing so well, too. this one is def one of the worst.

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AAAART people hated this at the time, and I don't know why. I did it by deleting a color channel. I think red? I think it looks cool. You really don't need that clear of a pic for the last round, just something that looks cool.

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lol so bad. People liked this more than the one above, wtf? I got the guitar upside down by accident, too


That's it for Best Game Ever 2! Good times... I think we really outdid ourselves in the next contest, though.

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ZenOfThunder
12/07/11 9:56:00 PM
#99:


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it looks like Bacon's hat continues to the left. there's not much I can say about a lot of these now, they're all very bleh.

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ugly TF2 one, what was I thinking? never try to cram that much in there.

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too many Master Chief effects. also ugly Mass Effect pic, what was I thinking with the orange?

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NINJA *scribbles*. A bunch of title screens is so boring. How did we get all excited for these pics back then?

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BLUR FIGHTER II

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...why green

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black man getting kicked into acid. I remember Koolaid having something witty to say

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KP again submitted matching pics for the two Pokemons. Two sets of matching pics; one that was rival battles, and one that was choosing a starter. WHAT DO YOU THINK BACON DECIDED TO DO HMMMMMM

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There's that Vivi pic that KP loved so much, ironically not in a character battle at all! and wtf is going on in that SC pic? I guess it was trying to embody never being able to tell what's going on in a SC match in general. And Nintendogirl pointed it out already but her making that OoT pic caused a flood of people asking how to get the Triforce AGAIN so many years later.

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SNAKE OFFERS YOU A CIGARETTE

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if you look closely it says "Zen" and "KP" in there. If I actually knew how to blend this wouldn't look like ass

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soooo good

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I bet KP found out how much Squall weighs by asking Leon, who has a textbook knowledge of how much Squall weighs throughout FFVIII. Did you know he was a half pound lighter during the ballroom scene?

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I like how this one doesn't depend on the characters like all the others

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wow mine are the highlight cuz they're just so awful

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an ugly solution to blending the logos, or a genius one?

(ugly)

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yup

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this was a popular style. Every match had several of these types of pics submitted. It was a fad, I think.

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what the hell is this

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ha ha oh man this is great. is this where the NidoranF idea came from?

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MINIGAMES is a great idea. We need more thinking like this even if the end result was eh

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greatone10
12/07/11 10:45:00 PM
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From: ZenOfThunder | #096
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ha ha oh man this is great. is this where the NidoranF idea came from?


Nidoran F was actually an 8 seed in that stupid female bracket in I think 2006, and that's where I got the idea to place her in this pic. I don't know why I got the idea to do something like this, but it was awesome anyway. I mean, how many times do you get to put Nana, Nidoran F, Jynx, and effin Princess Ruto in a match pic. I wanted to do something like that this year, but the only match to have more than one girl for freeform was Samley vs. The Bosses, and that god damn Ridley kept screwing everything up by being TOO BIG!

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