Board 8 > Best Harry Potter Character Ever. Bracket and Discussion topic

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12/22/11 3:53:00 PM
#51:


GenesisSaga posted...
The Hermy genes would balance them out. Plus, if I'm not mistaken Ron says in the Epilogue that Rose takes after her mother. I don't want to check that statement because I promised myself I would never read that horrid conclusion again.

He says "Thank God you inherited your mother's brains." which...doesn't necessarily imply good personality. I mean, Percy was pretty smart.

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GaryOak151
12/22/11 7:33:00 PM
#52:


(1)Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore- 22
(16)Ludovic Bagman-1
Bagman was a pretty strong 16 seed, but it's Dumbledore. Comon.

(8)Teddy Remus Lupin-10
(9)Katie Bell-13
First upset holy hell! Teddy was most likely the strongest epilogue only character but I'm glad Katie won.

(5)Aberforth Dumbledore-18
(12)Vincent Crabbe-5
I thought Crabbe would get a few more votes but Abe wins pretty handily.

(4)George Weasley-19
(13)Moaning Myrtle-4
The Weasley's continue to under-perform. Seems that b8 doesn't have a ton of love for the whole family!

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Kaxon
12/22/11 9:28:00 PM
#53:


Molly's taking down Snape in round 3... you heard it here first.

I like the Ron/Crookshanks grudge match setup.

Luna's going all the way this time!

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GaryOak151
12/22/11 9:55:00 PM
#54:


Only 3 perfect brackets left, by the way.

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Vishje3000
12/23/11 12:58:00 AM
#55:


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GaryOak151
12/24/11 10:45:00 PM
#56:


(6)Vernon Dursley-14
(11)Madam Rosmerta- 5
Vernon looks decent heading into a villain match with Umbridge.

(3)Dolores Jane Umbridge-15
(14)Frank Longbottom-4
Not a fantastic performance. I'd take Rosmerta over Frank.

(7)Xenophilius Lovegood- 18
(10)Ariana Dumbledore
There's the blowouts i've come to expect from this contest!

(2)Fred Weasley-18
(15)Padma Patil-1
I'm one of the (probably the only, actually) biggest Patil fanboys on this board and I don't get how padma got a single vote. I mean, I guess the actress is pretty.. but that's pretty much it.

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12/25/11 1:07:00 AM
#57:


GaryOak151 posted...
Not a fantastic performance. I'd take Rosmerta over Frank.

I would too, but Harry Potter is a series where some fairly high profile characters will get some pretty consistent anti-votes.

GaryOak151 posted...
There's the blowouts i've come to expect from this contest!

Yes, well...they should become less common in round 2 once most of the complete scrubs have been cleared out (I swear, it feels like almost half the field in round one has zero lines, or is an epilogue-only character).

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GaryOak151
12/25/11 11:12:00 AM
#58:


(1)Hermione Jean Granger- 20
(16)Charity Burbage-1
Burbage's only vote was an admitted pity vote.

(8)Godric Gryffindor- 18
(9)Lily Luna Potter-3
Battle of the characters with like 1 total line!

(5)Cho Chang-11
(12)Fang-10
I didn't vote yesterday and I would have voted for Fang. Oh well we missed a shot at our first tie. Still an exciting match!

(4)Ron Weasley-15
(13)Crookshanks -6
Dem ron haters

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12/25/11 12:05:00 PM
#59:


Aww yeah! We're getting a Ron vs Cho match. Battle of the trainwrecks! ^_^

And wow, Godric vs Lily Luna ended up way more one-sided in vote totals than it felt. Like...the votes ended up a bigger blowout than Ron vs Crookshanks O_O

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GenesisSaga
12/25/11 3:49:00 PM
#60:


(4)Ron Weasley-15
(13)Crookshanks -6
Dem ron haters


Hey I already explained my vote was more Crookshanks love than Ronald hate. >_>

She's pretty much my favorite pet- the only one useful for more than delivery service and she's a helluva lot better than Trevor or Scabbers the useless runaways.

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GaryOak151
12/25/11 5:47:00 PM
#61:


Fang>all pets

facts

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Raka_Putra
12/25/11 6:28:00 PM
#62:


Whoo Charity.

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12/26/11 8:00:00 AM
#63:


Favourite pet?

Umm...well, I'd probably default to Aragog because it has actual dialogue, but assuming that doesn't count...Pigwidgeon, I think? The indecent enthusiasm and sheer incompetence at doing basic things like eating owl treats without choking...it's enough to make Pig stand out a little at least. Buckbeak also gets some points for the Malfoy subplot and Sirius subplot. And yeah, Crookshanks is pretty good for the all-around competence.

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GaryOak151
12/26/11 8:16:00 PM
#64:


Only 2 perfects left..

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DoctorBIind
12/27/11 2:23:00 AM
#65:


Fang was my upset special :(
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Vishje3000
12/27/11 4:57:00 AM
#66:


My perfect is going down today... Knew it yesterday when I checked todays matchups...
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GaryOak151
12/27/11 2:09:00 PM
#67:


i'm very unhappy Hermione, Ron, Neville and Bellatrix are all in the same division. That was the point i most strongly considered changing the bracket... Hermione and Neville are both top 5 characters in my opinion so that one sucks.

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GenesisSaga
12/28/11 7:09:00 PM
#68:


Harry Potter, Harry Potter - UH!
Harry Potter, Harry Potter - THAT'S ME!

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12/28/11 7:53:00 PM
#69:


(6)Salazar Slytherin-7
(11)Peter Pettigrew-12
I'm mildly surprised that Pettigrew won but the voters have been hating the no-line characters.

(3)Neville Longbottom-18
(14)Alicia Spinnet-1
Neville looking good.

(7)Rowena Ravenclaw-6
(10)Regulus Arcturus Black-13
This match was close early but the explanations seemed to sink Rowena.

(2)Bellatrix Lestrange-18
(15)Aurora Sinistra-1
The trend continues.

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GenesisSaga
12/28/11 7:54:00 PM
#70:


Pettigrew getting past Round 1 is so awful...

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12/28/11 8:27:00 PM
#71:


GenesisSaga posted...
Pettigrew getting past Round 1 is so awful...

I think the better question is: how on earth did Rowena get a 6-seed? 11-seed for Pettigrew is about right. Lots of screentime, but also poorly executed, and someone who will draw anti-votes on top of that.

But like...I'm looking through the 16-seeds, and I think most of them would beat Rowena.

The Fat Lady? Probably.
Rodolphous Lestrange? Probably not.
Bagman? Probably.
Charity Burbage? I honestly don't know.
Winky? Probably.
Kakaroff? Probably.
Penelope Clearwater? I honestly don't know.
Barty Crouch Jr? Hell yes. (WTF why is he a 16-seed?)

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GaryOak151
12/28/11 8:31:00 PM
#72:


seedings were determined by the save-my. I had no control over them. Trust me teh bracket would look much different if i had control over it.

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GenesisSaga
12/28/11 8:38:00 PM
#73:


Yeah there's no way Barty Crouch Jr. should be anything less than an 8-seed. I actually prefer him to the man he was impersonating. I participated in the Save My, but not that early on I think. Had I been active and/or paying attention he would've got much farther.

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GaryOak151
12/28/11 9:02:00 PM
#74:


I don't disagree! I was campaigning early on and i was doing my best just to get a day up. As the contest went on a took a much more active part.

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GaryOak151
12/29/11 11:32:00 PM
#75:


(1)Luna Lovegood-15
(16)Winky-1
oh god where did teh votes go

(8)Aragog-9
(9)Arabella Doreen Figg-7
Holy hell a win with 9 votes. Votals need to go up.

(5)Viktor Krum- 13
(12)Wilhelmina Grubbly-Plank-3
Krum gets more hate than I thought he would!

(4)Lily Potter (née Evans)-15
(13)Irma Prince-1
It's spelled pince

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GaryOak151
12/30/11 8:05:00 PM
#76:


(6)The Bloody Baron-9
(11)Alice Longbottom-9
Oh hey tie. Man it would help if I counted the votes earlier. This will go up again day.. 13? i suppose.

(3)The Sorting Hat-16
(14)Antonin Dolohov -2
Fun fact: Sorting Hat was not in the save-my at first, someone had to suggest it day 2.

(7)Petunia Dursley-12
(10)Helga Hufflepuff-6
Helga started off neck and neck with Petunia but faded.


(2)Rubeus Hagrid-13
(15)Poppy Pomfrey-5
Surprise of the day right here, Pomfrey was actually leading early.

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GaryOak151
12/30/11 8:18:00 PM
#77:


(1)Remus John Lupin- 18
(16)Igor Karkaroff-2
Karkaroff does better than expected.

(8)James Potter-7
(9)Firenze-13
Wow. Wow. Color me surprised. James Potter might not have been perfect but Firenze? I'm just sad we won't get a all-marauders match.

(5)Arthur Weasley-12
(12)Argus Filch-8
Man B8 hates the Weasleys.

(4)Dudley Dursley-16
(13)Gregory Goyle-4
Don't get the Goyle votes. Dursley is the same exact character but better and with more screentime.

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12/30/11 8:53:00 PM
#78:


GaryOak151 posted...
Wow. Wow. Color me surprised. James Potter might not have been perfect but Firenze? I'm just sad we won't get a all-marauders match.

James is someone with almost no screen time, and the little screen time he does get tends to be quite negative.

OK sure...we have Hagrid and Sirius telling us how much Harry and James are the same person, but Hagrid's an idiot, and Sirius went a bit crazy in prison, so of course this turns out to be completely wrong. Whenever we actually see James in a real memory, the author beats us over the head with how different he is from Harry. He gets painted as a spoiled, snotty, bully.

So put him up against an uncharacteristically nice (for his race) character who has much more screen time, and he might lose.

As far as wanting an all-marauders match...Lupin/James might actually be a shutout if it happened, so we're not exactly missing much.

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12/30/11 9:08:00 PM
#79:


GaryOak151 posted...
Man B8 hates the Weasleys.

For what it's worth...most of them aren't much better than midcarders. They just don't get very much screen time.

This applies to literally everyone except Ron, Fred, and George (since Ginny has almost zero screen time outside of book 2 and book 6, and Percy also only has about two books where he gets significant screen time--and neither of those two dominate the books they're in. And characters who don't stay at Hogwarts get low screen time almost by definition).

Even then...Molly got a 22-0 shutout, Fred and George both had strong appearances, and almost no Weasleys have lost. (Percy and Charlie lost).

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GenesisSaga
12/30/11 11:29:00 PM
#80:


I happen to be a huge fan of Firenze and I'm not a fan of James at all, but I wasn't expecting that. Or was I? I dunno, I haven't looked at my predictions bracket more than once since this started and I have a feeling it's doing awful since I keep voting against the more obvious choices and possibly convincing others to do the same. Anyway, when James is grown he doesn't get much spotlight and his only characterization then is generic: brave, handsome... father. Not really much to work with really. He's a far more interesting character in his youth, but unfortunately being "interesting" means picking on one of my favorite characters seemingly unprovoked and generally looking like a bit of a douche. Since he was up against someone I like significantly more that was an easy choice for me.

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Vishje3000
12/31/11 12:55:00 AM
#81:


Wait, and people were mad at me for sniping James out in the save my... ?
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GenesisSaga
12/31/11 12:14:00 PM
#82:


Only barrel actually. Possibly WC too. I know I wasn't mad.

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GaryOak151
12/31/11 4:09:00 PM
#83:


No contest tonight, it would get crappy votals and i wont be here to start it.

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GenesisSaga
01/01/12 10:19:00 PM
#84:


Snape, Snape, Severus Snape.

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01/02/12 8:12:00 PM
#85:


(6)Nagini-11
(11)Griphook-6
For whatever reason I thought this one was closer than it actually was.

(3)Draco Malfoy-17
(14)Norbeta
Our first shut-out in quite a while, and by a 3 seed no less! Draco wasn't loved but Norbeta is not a super relevant character.

(7)Helena Ravenclaw-15
(10)Albus Severus Potter-1
Second to last vote breaks a shut-out, which shows just how awful the epilogue only character are. Literally almost shut-out by Helena.

(2)Fleur Delacour-16
(15)Hugo Weasley
People don't like Fleur, but epilogue onlys suckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

what a awful half division. What I wouldn't give to send Neville or Ron here.

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01/03/12 8:15:00 PM
#86:


(1)Harry James Potter-19
(16)Penelope Clearwater-3
I expect awful troll votes from hobo but what is this


(8)Peeves- 14
(9)Blaise Zabini-7
the trend continues

(5)Andromeda Tonks-10
(12)Augusta Longbottom-12
I'm pretty sure everyone thought Andromeda was her daughter. Everyone who voted with explanations probably pushed the recognition and got Augusta the win.

(4)Bill Weasley-19
(13)Ted Tonks-3
Da tonks name factor

Tiebreaker
(6)The Bloody Baron-7
(11)Alice Longbottom-14
Despite a voter switching to the bloody baron to "break the tie" Alice wins in a landslide.

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01/03/12 8:50:00 PM
#87:


the trend continues

If this trend you keep hinting at is what I think it is, then blame Rawling.

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GenesisSaga
01/03/12 8:53:00 PM
#88:


YES! Go Alice, go (down in the next round please, but don't get me wrong I'm glad you won this last match as you deserved it)!

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01/03/12 9:26:00 PM
#89:


i meant i haven't been very subtle with it

i'm just surprised no one has commented on it

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01/04/12 3:30:00 PM
#90:


GaryOak151 posted...
i meant i haven't been very subtle with it

i'm just surprised no one has commented on it


higher seeds almost always beat lower seeds? (Particularly, people who don't explain their votes seem to vote across the board higher seed).

And whoo: Neville's Grandmother won :)

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01/04/12 7:00:00 PM
#91:


Black characters underachieve.

and i was very excited augusta won too.

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01/04/12 7:05:00 PM
#92:


(6)Narcissa Malfoy -11
(11)Gellert Grindelwald-9
Two very good characters battle it out til the last vote, Narcissa just edges out Gellert.

(3)Lord Voldemort-19
(14)Nicolas Flamel-1
Stop me if you've heard this one before, blindhobo breaks up a shutout with an awful vote.

(7)Nearly Headless Nick-9
(10)Horace Slughorn- 11
Wow two great match-ups in the same day.

(2)Hedwig-15
(15)Ignotus Peverell-5
A two seed only gets 75% against a no line 15 seed? Not a good sign for Hedwig.

Decent votals and great matches, good work guys.

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GenesisSaga
01/04/12 7:19:00 PM
#93:


Slughorn winning is okay, but Narcissa over Grindelwald is a disgrace imo.

GaryOak151 posted...
Black characters underachieve.

I'm not yet convinced it has anything to do with race. Angelina's not exactly a strong character and she probably suffered a bit from over-seeding. Her underperforming should really be no surprise to anyone. Peeves is definitely more of a prescence than Blaise. As someone who only likes Blaise due to personal bias, I can freely admit that I think. I expected the match to be a bit closer but I fully expected him to lose.

Lee's performance however was a bit of a shock. By all means he should've knocked his match out of the park. It should've been a near-shut out since Vish (with his wacky opinions) was the only known fan of that background background character. I mean Gabrielle isn't even so much as a character as she is a foil for her sister. After Harry rescues her from the lake she appears... what one more time at Fleur's wedding? And has no lines but a weak "Thank you/Merci" after being rescued. And this was worth four votes over the awesomeness that is Lee Jordan, who, along with Fred/George are the most prominent pranksters in Hogwarts history AND who later featured plot significance by becoming a member of La Resistánce in the last book? I've gotta call BS on that one

But I'm gonna wait for Kingsley Shacklebolt's (strongest black character by a mile) first match before ditching my coincidence goggles and donning my RacistFAQs propaganda.

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01/05/12 4:50:00 AM
#94:


GaryOak151 posted...
Black characters underachieve.

For the record, I wasn't aware Blaise was black.

Actually, honestly, I don't really pay attention to physical descriptions of characters, unless they get repeated several times (like "Lee Jordan has dreadlocks" and "Ron has red hair and freckles, even paintings mock him about it"). Half the time I don't even realize when characters are black. (Certainly in Blaise's case my mental image was white).

In this case, if anything, I'd describe the situation as moreso "anti-votes against Peeves" than "Blaise underperforming". Peeves has about ten times as much screen time, and Blaise literally doesn't do anything (like...he has lines in one scene where he calls Ginny a blood traitor to save face, and that's about it). I mean, this is the guy who's in the sorting hat scene in book 1 because JKR wanted a Z-name to finish the scene, and then literally doesn't get mentioned for five consecutive books after that. And let's be honest: he only gets pulled out of the archive to be a slap in the face to Draco, and then promptly never gets mentioned again.

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Lee's performance however was a bit of a shock. By all means he should've knocked his match out of the park. It should've been a near-shut out since Vish (with his wacky opinions) was the only known fan of that background background character. I mean Gabrielle isn't even so much as a character as she is a foil for her sister. After Harry rescues her from the lake she appears... what one more time at Fleur's wedding? And has no lines but a weak "Thank you/Merci" after being rescued. And this was worth four votes over the awesomeness that is Lee Jordan, who, along with Fred/George are the most prominent pranksters in Hogwarts history AND who later featured plot significance by becoming a member of La Resistánce in the last book? I've gotta call BS on that one

I don't know if I voted in that match, but I'm a totally irrational Gabrielle fan. I've used her image for an avatar on other forums. Probably would have voted for her. If anything you should accuse me of sexism not racism here, though--if I'm being completely honest, I would not have avatared Gabrielle if she was male, and hence would have no particular attachment to her.

Partially I don't think Lee is an especially strong character, though. In theory he makes mayhem with Fred and George, but we never actually see him at it. The only exception I can think of is when he levitates nifflers into Umbridge's office, and by the time it was revealed to be him I was kinda pissed at him for doing it. What else has he done? Brought a Tarantula to school? Frankly, less dangerous than an owl as a pet >_>. Most of his screen time actually comes from sportscasting, where he does show a fair bit of personality...mostly in commenting about asking out Angelina and being rejected, and in his obvious Gryffindor bias, and ridiculous fawning over Harry's Firebolt. Then again, Luna Lovegood sportscasts a single match, and immediately eclipses every single sportscast Lee has ever done. "Loser's Lurgy".

Although, sure, I'll agree that Lee is the objectively correct vote here, I nevertheless don't have an especially high opinion of him. For instance, I'm not sure who I'd vote between him and Angelina Johnson. (Two characters of the same race in the same year where I don't have a particular bias towards either and whom are mostly known for their Quidditch stuff).

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01/05/12 7:16:00 AM
#95:


Gen: you really think I have wacky opinions :-P? And maybe I am enchanted by the beauxbatons genes ;-)
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01/05/12 7:30:00 AM
#96:


Lee lost? To Gabrielle? WTFguys

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01/05/12 7:54:00 AM
#97:


Seriously, Lee's Quidditch commentary is usually a highpoint of any book. Usually comes at a point of otherwise uneventful schoolstuff too. Gabrielle has what five lines?

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01/05/12 7:55:00 AM
#98:


What? No, Lee won.

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01/05/12 8:11:00 AM
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Gabrielle got 4 votes ;-)
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01/05/12 6:08:00 PM
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You guys are complaining about 4 people voting for the other character?? Shutouts aren't normal, be happy with a win.

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