Board 8 > Best Harry Potter Character Ever. Bracket and Discussion topic

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Suprak the Stud
01/05/12 7:12:00 PM
#101:


Black characters underachieve.

Yeah, this is just dumb.

If anything, blame Rawling for including one good character of color throughout seven books. Besides, as metroid pointed out, I'm assuming not many people here know which minor characters are which race.

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GenesisSaga
01/06/12 1:01:00 AM
#102:


Suprak the Stud posted...
Black characters underachieve.

Yeah, this is just dumb.

If anything, blame Rawling for including one good character of color throughout seven books. Besides, as metroid pointed out, I'm assuming not many people here know which minor characters are which race.


Lee Jordan and Kingsley Shacklebolt are both good.

I uh... I had no idea Dean Thomas was black until I checked the wikia. Was his ethnicity even mentioned in the books because I'm drawing a blank? Angie and Blaise are background characters like any other, and like any other background characters they aren't going to be very strong.

Glad to see Kingsley slaying his match. Mundungus is an awful character. Like I said, he needs other people yelling at him (Molly, Sirius, Kreacher, Aberforth, Moody, etc.) to provide even the slightest bit of entertainment. On his own, he's not very interesting at all. Just a droopy-faced thief.

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metroid composite
01/06/12 4:59:00 PM
#103:


GenesisSaga posted...
I uh... I had no idea Dean Thomas was black until I checked the wikia. Was his ethnicity even mentioned in the books because I'm drawing a blank? Angie and Blaise are background characters like any other, and like any other background characters they aren't going to be very strong.

From the wiki:

Dean's physical appearance was only described in the American edition of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. J.K. Rowling explained on her website that the reason this description was left out of the British edition of Philosopher's Stone was that her editor "thought that chapter was too long and pruned everything that he thought was surplus to requirements."

So...if you read any version but the american version, you have a good excuse. Not that a one sentence and never mentioned again description of having dark hair and dark skin would necessarily have clued me in anyway (see: me and having no idea Blaise Zabini was black).

Mundungus is an awful character. Like I said, he needs other people yelling at him (Molly, Sirius, Kreacher, Aberforth, Moody, etc.) to provide even the slightest bit of entertainment. On his own, he's not very interesting at all. Just a droopy-faced thief.

It's Harry Potter; lots of characters are just an archetype.

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GaryOak151
01/06/12 5:51:00 PM
#104:


(1)Minerva McGonagall -19
(16)Bartemius "Barty" Crouch Jr. -8
Barty Crouch might have been the most screwed over by seeding character by seeding in the entire tournament. I'm thinking of having a second chance mini-tourney of 8-16 after the main tourney and Crouch would definitely be in it.

(8)Quirinus Quirrell- 15
(9)Rufus Scrimgeour-11
There are more than a few days that 11 votes would have been enough for a win. With the votals of today, there was no chance.

(5)Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody-21
(12)Lavender Brown-6
Brown is underrated as a character because she isn't likable. She fills the annoying girlfriend role very well. I don't like how they changed her actor (she was originally black but they changed it to a white actress for the 6th book).

(4)Fenrir Greyback-24
(13)Pansy Parkinson -3
And yeah. Does anyone not take Crouch over Greyback?

Good day of action! Awesome votals and some decent matches. No upsets but that isn't always necessary.

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GaryOak151
01/06/12 5:58:00 PM
#105:


(6)Oliver Wood-15
(11)Dean Thomas-9
The trend continues! Thomas should have won imho.

(3)Kingsley Shacklebolt-21
(14)Mundungus Fletcher -5
How the hell does Kingsley let Mundungus get 5 votes? Racistfaqs

(7)Sybill Patricia Trelawney -23
(10)James Sirius Potter-3
Trelawney laying the beatdown? Must be against an epilogue only character.

(2)Buckbeak-24
(15)Bathilda Bagshot-2
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good votals but boring day.

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GenesisSaga
01/06/12 6:06:00 PM
#106:


GaryOak151 posted...
(6)Oliver Wood-15
(11)Dean Thomas-9
The trend continues! Thomas should have won imho.


Actually Dean overperformed for such a low seeded character. And like MC pointed out, his exploits, though numerous and far surpassing those of Wood, are ultimately pretty forgettable. The "trend" is broken.

(3)Kingsley Shacklebolt-21
(14)Mundungus Fletcher -5
How the hell does Kingsley let Mundungus get 5 votes? Racistfaqs


I see now you're just being silly. Kingsley stomped that match just like he should've. Though I feel Dungy is an unentertaining and unlikable character, 5/26 votes is significantly less than most characters of similar screentime have gotten. In fact I'm pretty sure Mundungus got about x1.5 more scenes than Kingsley ever did, it's just most of them were spent whining and being a sniveling coward. It's no surprise so few were willing to vote for that. The "trend" was probably a coincidence.

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metroid composite
01/06/12 6:15:00 PM
#107:


GaryOak151 posted...
The trend continues! Thomas should have won imho.

Objectively I agree, and I voted for him, but so many of us were commenting on how subjectively unmemorable Thomas was relative to his screen time and especially surprising given the variety of scenes he's in. He's like...the "Where's Waldo" of personalities--there are big scenes where I didn't even remember he was present until reminded by others.

How the hell does Kingsley let Mundungus get 5 votes? Racistfaqs

Damnit, there are perfectly legitimate reasons to like Dung, and...actually I suspect he gets more screen time by a fair margin.

(2)Buckbeak-24
(15)Bathilda Bagshot-2
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This being the biggest blowout is a bit of a surprise to me. Is Buckbeak actually popular on this board? Before these matches I would expect Trelawney to take down Buckbeak, but now I'm not sure.

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Kaxon
01/06/12 6:23:00 PM
#108:


Unless I'm forgetting something, the real Bathilda never appears on screen at all. Of course she got blown out. Besides, Buckbeak is just that awesome.

And since everyone keeps saying they didn't know Blaise was black, remember when nobody knew what his gender was? When he was first mentioned, all we knew was that there was a Slytherin named Blaise Zabini, but that didn't stop people from writing fanfics where he was Draco's girlfriend. (or Harry's, or Filch's, or Buckbeak's.... HP fanfic shippers are scary)

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metroid composite
01/06/12 7:06:00 PM
#109:


Kaxon posted...
And since everyone keeps saying they didn't know Blaise was black, remember when nobody knew what his gender was? When he was first mentioned, all we knew was that there was a Slytherin named Blaise Zabini, but that didn't stop people from writing fanfics where he was Draco's girlfriend. (or Harry's, or Filch's, or Buckbeak's.... HP fanfic shippers are scary)

...Geez, Blaise wasn't a name I even remembered when he showed up in book 6 (and I remembered Bathilda Bagshot, Dirk Cresswell, and Deadus Diggle before they got relevant). HP shippers are scary.

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GaryOak151
01/06/12 7:32:00 PM
#110:


The trend is now fully tongue in cheek

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GaryOak151
01/08/12 6:03:00 PM
#111:


(1)Severus Snape-22
(8)Fluffy-1
Continuing the tradition, Snake gets every vote but one.

(5)Molly Weasley-18
(4)Angelina Johnson-5
Molly just steamrolls a decent character in Angelina Johnson. She might yet put up a fight against Snape. Doubt it though.

Boring Day :\

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Kaxon
01/09/12 5:26:00 PM
#112:


From: GaryOak151 | #111
Continuing the tradition, Snake gets every vote but one.


Woah, if I knew it were Snake instead of Snape I would have totally voted for him. Sectumsempra's no match for hiding in a box.

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GaryOak151
01/09/12 7:25:00 PM
#113:


I'm sick and tired cut me some slack :(

(6)Gilderoy Lockhart-12
(3)Lucius Malfoy-8
Color me mildly surprised. Lockhart wins in a fairly close match.

(7)Phineas Nigellus Black-4
(2)Nymphadora Tonks-16
I'm sure Gen is sad but 4 votes against Tonks is not an awful showing for a 7 seed.

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GenesisSaga
01/09/12 7:39:00 PM
#114:


I'm not sad at all! Nymphadora is my favorite female character and deserved the win. I'm also glad a fairly obscure yet awesome nonetheless character got some recognition. Unlike Gabrielle... Phineas actually does stuff other than look "pretty".

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GaryOak151
01/09/12 7:42:00 PM
#115:


gosh i'm just a trainwreck in this topic

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Vishje3000
01/09/12 11:46:00 PM
#116:


Crappels! Lost the lead!
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GaryOak151
01/10/12 8:03:00 AM
#117:


(1)Sirius Black-21
(8)Lee Jordan-7
Lots of debate on this one which helped drive votals. Lee is awesome and I'm glad he did so well.

(5)Dobby-21
(4)Fawkes-7
An equally close match that was technically an upset (I don't think anyone was surprised at all but hey) but no one really seemed to care about.

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GaryOak151
01/11/12 8:39:00 AM
#118:


(6)Parvati Patil -13
(3)Cedric Diggory-19
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!! A borderline top 15 character (for me and me alone) is gone. I'm very sad about it. Still not a bad performance against Cedric. external image i'll miss you :(

(7)Filius Flitwick-16
(2)Ginevra "Ginny" Weasley-16
Ahahahaha. After 50 posts debating this match we're going to do it all again. Good stuff.

Amazing votals, great matches, what more could I ask for? Maybe not having 2 of my top 20 characters lose or tie in the same day? Whatever.

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GenesisSaga
01/11/12 9:10:00 AM
#119:


Parvati rocks for what little focus she got. But yeah I didn't expect her to win that at all. Still, not a bad performance.

Ugh tie.

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GaryOak151
01/12/12 9:35:00 AM
#120:


looking up pictures reminded me that padma was way prettier

she deserved more screen time

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GaryOak151
01/12/12 9:44:00 AM
#121:


(1)Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore-29
(9)Katie Bell-1
The most interesting things about Katie is that she randomly changed actors and that she is only a year older than Harry.

(5)Aberforth Dumbledore-6
(4)George Weasley-24
Yawnnnn.

Boring day.

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GenesisSaga
01/12/12 9:46:00 AM
#122:


I kind of wished I voted for Abe now, but I forgot to change votes last topic.

Not that it would've made that beatdown any less embarrassing. Geez...

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GenesisSaga
01/13/12 4:02:00 PM
#123:


Results and stuff?

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GaryOak151
01/13/12 7:35:00 PM
#124:


sorry i've been working and goign to school full time cause most of the tech guys are out this week

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mnkboy907
01/13/12 8:50:00 PM
#125:


I counted the tiebreaker cause I was curious, and Ginny won 15-14. I didn't count any of the others, though.

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GenesisSaga
01/13/12 9:00:00 PM
#126:


mnkboy907 posted...
I counted the tiebreaker cause I was curious, and Ginny won 15-14. I didn't count any of the others, though.

FUDGE! >=(

I blame the traitor for this travesty. Now I'll have to vote for either Cedric or Ginny next round. Gkudsrgnoods.

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GaryOak151
01/13/12 9:07:00 PM
#127:


i forgot to vote (i think) and would have voted ginny if it makes you feel any better/worse

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Kaxon
01/13/12 10:28:00 PM
#128:


Argh, I missed my chance to vote for Cho (and Hermione, but I'll get another chance for that...)

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GaryOak151
01/14/12 9:47:00 PM
#129:


(6)Vernon Dursley-9
(3)Dolores Jane Umbridge-20
I thought there would be some villain sff but this seems like a pretty fair indicator of their strengths.

(7)Xenophilius Lovegood-1
(2)Fred Weasley-27
This sets up a very interesting Umbridge/Fred match-up. Very interesting in terms of book significance anyways.

TIEBREAKER
(7)Filius Flitwick-14
(2)Ginevra "Ginny" Weasley-15
Wow. One vote difference in the tie-breaker is pretty crazy. So glad Ginny is moving on though.

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GaryOak151
01/14/12 10:12:00 PM
#130:


(1)Hermione Jean Granger-25
(8)Godric Gryffindor-4
Four people voted for a character with no lines over Hermione ****ing Granger. Yeah.

(5)Cho Chang-7
(4)Ron Weasley-20
Dat ron hate. Cho Chang, a hated character gets 7 votes against our King.

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blindhobo13
01/14/12 10:30:00 PM
#131:


RacistFAQs

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metroid composite
01/14/12 10:37:00 PM
#132:


blindhobo13 posted...
RacistFAQs

I know right? Voting against the asian like that....

...Come to think of it, why does HP have only one Asian? There's like...five black people.

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GenesisSaga
01/14/12 10:40:00 PM
#133:


We can't help it if Rowling depicted the only character of Asian descent in an extremely unflattering light. Can't speak for the others here, but I'd vote Irish Seamus Finnigan or... pretty much any black character over Ron, but not Cho. Then again I'd have a hard time voting either of the two French characters over Ron as well. Then there's Grindelwald. I'd vote him over Ron. Wasn't Ollivander foreign? I'd definitely vote him over Ron. Then there's that random Romanian vampire guest accompanying the Twisted Sisters or whatever that band was called (I know it's not Twisted Sisters but I'm at a mental loss here)... Okay, I wouldn't vote him over Ron, but I'd think about it!

Bah, what a typo. I'm more tired than I thought. But for real. Cho's far from decent.

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mnkboy907
01/15/12 2:46:00 PM
#134:


Hey, Parvati and Padma are Asian, too!

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GenesisSaga
01/15/12 8:58:00 PM
#135:


I think most people acknowledge that peoples of Middle Eastern descent are distinct from people of East/Central Asian descent even if the Middle East does comprise some of Asia...

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hideto
01/15/12 8:59:00 PM
#136:


Good thing The Patils are South Asian then, huh?

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blindhobo13
01/15/12 10:02:00 PM
#137:


From: mnkboy907 | #134
Hey, Parvati and Padma are Asian, too!


Was this ever mentioned in the books. I just thought they didn't really pay attention to race during casting.

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mnkboy907
01/15/12 10:03:00 PM
#138:


I don't think so, but those are traditional Indian names, so not that big of a stretch.

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GaryOak151
01/16/12 6:58:00 AM
#139:


(11)Peter Pettigrew-3
(3)Neville Longbottom-23
Neville puts him down like the rat he is... literally lolololololol i hate myself


(10)Regulus Arcturus Black-6
(2)Bellatrix Lestrange-19
Not a bad result for RAB. He's probably going to be in my screwed by seeding tournament.

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Kaxon
01/16/12 6:36:00 PM
#140:


With the last name Patil? Yes, they were Indian in the books. That's like asking of Cho Chang was supposed to be Chinese.

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GaryOak151
01/16/12 7:53:00 PM
#141:


(1)Luna Lovegood-17
(8)Aragog- 2
How Aragog got two votes I will never know.

(5)Viktor Krum-8
(4)Lily Potter (née Evans)-11
Winning with 11 votes? What happened to our epic votals.

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01/17/12 9:30:00 AM
#142:


(11)Alice Longbottom- 8
(3)The Sorting Hat-17
Alice does extremely well for herself for a character with one seed. I'm an Alice fan but I'm pretty happy with how she did.

(7)Petunia Dursley-6
(2)Rubeus Hagrid-19
The Hagrid hate continues to surprise me. Oh well.


Votals back up a little.

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01/18/12 6:35:00 AM
#143:


GaryOak151 posted...
(7)Petunia Dursley-6
(2)Rubeus Hagrid-19
The Hagrid hate continues to surprise me. Oh well.


I dunno if it counts as hate when the two characters have similar amounts of screen time. The appeal for most people seemed to be "Hagrid is nice to Harry, Petunia is not, so I like Hagrid more." Which is...at least personally not how I approach voting for characters.

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GaryOak151
01/19/12 9:38:00 AM
#144:


(1)Remus John Lupin-25
(9)Firenze-3
Lupin wins easily in the battle of half-humans.

(5)Arthur Weasley-17
(4)Dudley Dursley- 12
Arthur got off to a fast start, but Dudley made a match of it late. This result seems pretty fair, as both characters are pretty interesting.

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01/19/12 9:42:00 AM
#145:


(6)Nagini- 2
(3)Draco Malfoy -21


(7)Helena Ravenclaw-2
(2)Fleur Delacour-20
People don't really like Fleur but Helena was not relevant enough for most of em.

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GenesisSaga
01/20/12 7:04:00 PM
#146:


Animal characters lol!

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Vishje3000
01/22/12 3:34:00 AM
#147:


Results? :-)
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GaryOak151
01/22/12 8:11:00 AM
#148:


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01/22/12 8:20:00 AM
#149:


nevermind found them!
(1)Harry James Potter-17
(8)Peeves -5
Really?

(12)Augusta Longbottom-9
(4)Bill Weasley-13
A pretty damn good performance for Augusta! Badass. Glad I found the topic.

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01/22/12 8:28:00 AM
#150:


(6)Narcissa Malfoy-6
(3)Lord Voldemort-22
Take heart MC, cissy did much better after your post.

(10)Horace Slughorn-22
(2)Hedwig-6
Man did Slughorn get an easy 4pack or what.

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