Board 8 > oh my god I am garbage at UMvC3

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
12/13/11 10:37:00 AM
#51:


I really recommend dropping Chun Li, she's the worst rush down character in the game, only thing she has going for her is air mobility but you could just chose Magneto for that and do a hundred times better. Replace her with Wolverine and you'll see a huge difference in effectiveness (and what's even sadder is that Wolverine was hugely nerfed and Chun Li was buffed in Ultimate, and Wolverine's still miles better than her.)

If you're a beginner online's not the place for you. Casuals didn't buy this game and 70% of online is Shoryuken.com players who know what they're doing. You should find someone willing to help you in a lobby improve since going online with no idea how to play is just suicide.

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Tornadoman78
12/13/11 10:38:00 AM
#52:


i happen to like chun li

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36Eagles10
12/13/11 10:44:00 AM
#53:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #024
ITT, bad players hating because they suck.

UMvC3 is, except for Wesker, a real solid game. The cast is balanced, nobody sucks horribly (except Hsien-Ko), and saying it has low execution or a low-skill ceiling means you didn't try to get real meter out of your combos or big meterless damage. Call me when you can pull off a decent Mad Beast combo, or Rocket Raccoon's boulder loop, or Dieminion style zoning. Until then, don't complain about low execution! The game is one of the most forgiving yet most fun fighters ever, and people crying about touch-of-death combos are too scrubby to realize the game has a hard cap on maximum damage you can inflict equal to 33% of your total health.


Actually X-23 can do more then 33% with meter if you use Dirt Nap well. characters that can counter overheads can also counter the character coming in after a death so...you wrong.

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GranzonEx
12/13/11 10:50:00 AM
#54:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #039
Nah, because saying UMvC3 has a low skill ceiling is just crazytalk. Sure, there's a bunch of easymode characters (like four or five), but several characters need either lots of good reads to make work or pinpoint precision with their moves. Trust me, taking advantage of Mad Beast in a real match is the furthest from easy you can get. It's pretty much like playing on turbo mode with maximum frameskip.


I don't think that's what it means to have a high skill ceiling. None of those things are really hard to do on a technical level, they aren't even practical. Getting good reads on opponents are more of an experience sort of thing. There's a difference between having room for creativity and a high skill ceiling. SF4 is really simple, but it takes a lot of practice to master one character. Marvel 3 is really simple, if you have a general idea of what you want to do, you can pick the game up and do them.

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TheRock1525
12/13/11 2:47:00 PM
#56:


I just hit random buttons and hope for the best.

It actually works sometimes, too!

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KanzarisKelshen
12/13/11 2:48:00 PM
#57:


From: 36Eagles10 | #053
Actually X-23 can do more then 33% with meter if you use Dirt Nap well. characters that can counter overheads can also counter the character coming in after a death so...you wrong.


Really? As part of one continuous combo? As-in, the combo streak doesn't ever break and she can kill more than one character? News to me.

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Justin_Crossing
12/13/11 2:49:00 PM
#58:


people arguing umvc3 is easy

c. viper

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/13/11 2:51:00 PM
#59:


Why would you play C. Viper when you can do the same damage with a better character with less thought or input?

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KanzarisKelshen
12/13/11 2:51:00 PM
#60:


From: PrivateBiscuit1 | #059
Why would you play C. Viper when you can do the same damage with a better character with less thought or input?


Because lockdown. Also, options.

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Lopen
12/13/11 2:52:00 PM
#61:


Style

Also tougher to counter due to unfamiliarity and not knowing what the hell is going on.

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WazzupGenius00
12/13/11 2:52:00 PM
#62:


because you like the character

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Stopthink
12/13/11 2:53:00 PM
#63:


Also less boring

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Shoenin_Kakashi
12/13/11 3:10:00 PM
#64:


1 or 2(Namely Viper and Modok) characters being hard to use doesn't make the game not easy. The confirms are incredibly lenient and Hitstun borders on dumb at times(namely any of the stagering moves). Everyone else is pretty straightforward or slightly gimmicky, bit nothing compared to the aforementioned 2 here.

The balance changes didn't do anything really except make Capt decent again. Wesker lost his long range confirm but gained a mini XF1(and I swear they made some of his normals goofier, but I can't confirm this), Dark Phoenix is still durr because XF is still dumb(it was never about Phoenix anyways). Logan is still braindead he just lost his replaceable BFF and invincible mixup(granted THIS was the main thing that made him stupid in 3), Dante is still dumb(but unlike the other 3, he does require effort).

Remeber guys, Marvel fighters were always stupid and dumb. That's why they're fun in their strange wacky way.

Also screw the 1 frame links in SF4, those things are terrible.

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paperwarior
12/13/11 3:11:00 PM
#65:


I think MvC3 made me even better at GG. I'll take all you on if X3 ever comes out.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
12/13/11 3:13:00 PM
#66:


Guilty Gear XXX

I can always use more

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Blairville
12/13/11 3:25:00 PM
#67:


You can do 66% damage if you catch an assist, but that's the fault of your opponent.

Chun's lightning legs assist is very good for lockdown, so having her as your anchor isn't a bad idea. I recommend experimenting a bit to find the other 2 characters. Dr. Doom and Ammy are good for the second slot.

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Dauntless Hunter
12/13/11 3:32:00 PM
#68:


I'm in the most uncomfortable skill area in fighting games. I'm by far the best player I know IRL, but I'm garbage compared to anybody fighting online. There's literally nobody I can have a competitive match with. I'm either beating the snot out of my friends who can't pull off a shoryuken reliably, or I'm getting OCV'd by people online.

It's like everyone who used to be as good as me stopped playing fighting games entirely, while I kept playing but never actually got any better.

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36Eagles10
12/13/11 3:46:00 PM
#69:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #057
Really? As part of one continuous combo? As-in, the combo streak doesn't ever break and she can kill more than one character? News to me.


Pretty sure the actual combo counting thing resets but at least in vanilla you could get a guaranteed hit with that. don't think you can follow up though. same thing for counters. It is a very little amount of damage usually but it is more damage then just one kill.

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Mr_Vaga
12/13/11 3:51:00 PM
#70:


From: Dauntless Hunter | #068
I'm in the most uncomfortable skill area in fighting games. I'm by far the best player I know IRL, but I'm garbage compared to anybody fighting online. There's literally nobody I can have a competitive match with. I'm either beating the snot out of my friends who can't pull off a shoryuken reliably, or I'm getting OCV'd by people online.

It's like everyone who used to be as good as me stopped playing fighting games entirely, while I kept playing but never actually got any better.


This completely. Only exception is when my one friend bought Mortal Kombat.

Also, the online community general tends to turn me off, gets tiring playing the same 3 characters people are willing to choose over and over. Similar to NBA 2k games where it just gets boring when everyone chooses the Heat, or Bulls, etc.

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WazzupGenius00
12/13/11 3:57:00 PM
#71:


From: Blairville | #067
You can do 66% damage if you catch an assist, but that's the fault of your opponent.


100% if they do a Crossover Combination! I've seen it happen using level 3 X-Factor Hulk!

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Tornadoman78
12/13/11 5:08:00 PM
#72:


all fighting games are easy to beat

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wg64Z
12/14/11 6:19:00 AM
#73:


You keep saying 33% health but that's not true. Each character has their own HP value, some way higher than others.
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The_Djoker
12/14/11 6:21:00 AM
#74:


god i hate that game.

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agesboy
12/14/11 6:30:00 AM
#75:


Casuals didn't buy this game and 70% of online is Shoryuken.com players who know what they're doing

Online isn't THAT bad, I'm a pretty bad player and once I started winning and losing evenly my matches got much better. Finally sitting at around 8th/9th Lord/Ranger.

Unfortunately, I'm not gonna get to play online much until next semester! Time to practice combos instead of just L-M-H-S-M-M-H-S-OTG-supering with every character I'm allowed to.

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