Board 8 > oh my god I am garbage at UMvC3

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OmarsComin
12/13/11 6:21:00 AM
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I am bad at SF4. I am bad at MK9. If I'm even competent at a fighting game, it's only 3S. But my history of bad play could not have prepared me for how awful I am at UMvC3. I declare soundly that I am the worst on the board, and it won't even be close. Whyyyy did I spent $40 on this? Impulse buys the worst.
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thebestestbest
12/13/11 6:23:00 AM
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Great game.

Nothing says awesome like losing your character to a projectile hit confirm.
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Emporer_Kazbar
12/13/11 6:23:00 AM
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I was so hyped for UMvC3. Probably my second most anticipated game of the year.

Bought it, played for about 20 hours, hit an embarrassingly low skill ceiling, and now it collects dust as I play WWE 12.

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GranzonEx
12/13/11 6:23:00 AM
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You hit 4 buttons consecutively and do a ton of damage then allowing you to link into a million other ways to deal damage. The game is so easy to play >_>

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Weakupedia
12/13/11 6:23:00 AM
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i regret buying umvc3 too

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wg64Z
12/13/11 6:24:00 AM
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It's really not your fault, it's the game's.

Seriously, if someone learns a simple button string input, the second you get hit once your first character is probably already dead. The game is a joke.
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thebestestbest
12/13/11 6:25:00 AM
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1 character = 33% of your health
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OmarsComin
12/13/11 6:25:00 AM
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If any of you play online for 360 we could probably run some matches later and we can confirm that I'm the worst ever. I haven't really even settled on a team yet, I've just picked Chun first and then randomed the next two.
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thebestestbest
12/13/11 6:26:00 AM
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OmarsComin posted...
If any of you play online for 360 we could probably run some matches later and we can confirm that I'm the worst ever. I haven't really even settled on a team yet, I've just picked Chun first and then randomed the next two.

Chun is bottom tier and has one of the highest execution requirements in the game.
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GranzonEx
12/13/11 6:26:00 AM
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You seriously can't be worse than Mike Ross. You have to really not know what's going on to do worse than him!

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GranzonEx
12/13/11 6:28:00 AM
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From: thebestestbest | #009
Chun is bottom tier and has one of the highest execution requirements in the game.


There is no high execution for UMvC3.

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OmarsComin
12/13/11 6:29:00 AM
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Chun is bottom tier and has one of the highest execution requirements in the game.

I've mained her in every game since SF2 (except I mostly don't play her in 3S for obvious reasons)! Can't stop now. That will allow me a slight excuse for my sucking though I guess.
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thebestestbest
12/13/11 6:30:00 AM
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There is no high execution for UMvC3.

And yet the pros still drop combos all the time.
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GranzonEx
12/13/11 6:31:00 AM
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From: thebestestbest | #013
And yet the pros still drop combos all the time.


Doesn't mean everything isn't easy to do compared to stuff like SF4's 1 frame links.

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SHINE GET 64
12/13/11 6:33:00 AM
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I was good enough in MvC3 to get the platinum. Hoping I can do the same in UMvC3, but I haven't opened it yet

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colliding
12/13/11 6:36:00 AM
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It is easy, but it's also incredibly unforgiving. I kind of hate it, because I feel like the characters I want to play as are completely useless against Wesker/Dante/Vergil/Wolverine. It's so much easier to open people up with those characters, plus they all do a lot of damage.
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thebestestbest
12/13/11 6:36:00 AM
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Doesn't mean everything isn't easy to do compared to stuff like SF4's 1 frame links.

If it's hard enough to make a top player drop the combo, it's hard enough.
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colliding
12/13/11 6:38:00 AM
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Also the online community is so bad

teabags and taunts and hatemail and ragequitting


the more I think about it, the more I just want to say **** this game
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GranzonEx
12/13/11 6:39:00 AM
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From: thebestestbest | #017
Doesn't mean everything isn't easy to do compared to stuff like SF4's 1 frame links.

If it's hard enough to make a top player drop the combo, it's hard enough.


Top players play in different conditions. They get nervous and drop combos that they can do 100% of the time in training mode without pressure.

I cannot play SF4 on a pad. I can play Marvel on a pad. That is how forgiving the game is.

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wg64Z
12/13/11 6:40:00 AM
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It's a bad game and sold like absolute crap.
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OmarsComin
12/13/11 6:55:00 AM
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Are the bad sales confirmed, then? I remember there being some skepticism about the numbers. I do see that the reviews are generally worse than vanilla MvC3. I wouldn't know about the comparison, never played the first one.
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GranzonEx
12/13/11 6:57:00 AM
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It has bad sales, but when you release a niche game in the middle of the holiday brawl between blockbusters... >_>

But you should stick with the game. Maybe don't use Chun on point, have her as assist.

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OmarsComin
12/13/11 7:00:00 AM
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Ah, I see. How is that supposed to work, anyway? I assume your team is supposed to somehow complement each other but I have no idea.
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KanzarisKelshen
12/13/11 7:08:00 AM
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ITT, bad players hating because they suck.

UMvC3 is, except for Wesker, a real solid game. The cast is balanced, nobody sucks horribly (except Hsien-Ko), and saying it has low execution or a low-skill ceiling means you didn't try to get real meter out of your combos or big meterless damage. Call me when you can pull off a decent Mad Beast combo, or Rocket Raccoon's boulder loop, or Dieminion style zoning. Until then, don't complain about low execution! The game is one of the most forgiving yet most fun fighters ever, and people crying about touch-of-death combos are too scrubby to realize the game has a hard cap on maximum damage you can inflict equal to 33% of your total health.

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GranzonEx
12/13/11 7:09:00 AM
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Yea that's how it's supposed to work. Like you can call Chun's leg assist in the middle of a combo to lengthen it, or call her to stuff an opponent in the corner etc. Usually almost any 3 characters work, you just have to figure out which assist you want.

Point char = a character like Wesker that doesn't need meter to deal ridiculous damage
Assist = would be something that should help you create openings/cover you/continue combos
Anchor = would be someone that can use meter and X factor effectively

If you practice simple combos in training mode you will easily beat people online! It's as easy as 1 2 3 4 on the pad then call an assist or super and a character would be half dead.

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GranzonEx
12/13/11 7:11:00 AM
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From: KanzarisKelshen | #024
ITT, bad players hating because they suck.

UMvC3 is, except for Wesker, a real solid game. The cast is balanced, nobody sucks horribly (except Hsien-Ko), and saying it has low execution or a low-skill ceiling means you didn't try to get real meter out of your combos or big meterless damage. Call me when you can pull off a decent Mad Beast combo, or Rocket Raccoon's boulder loop, or Dieminion style zoning. Until then, don't complain about low execution! The game is one of the most forgiving yet most fun fighters ever, and people crying about touch-of-death combos are too scrubby to realize the game has a hard cap on maximum damage you can inflict equal to 33% of your total health.


Low execution isn't a complaint. It's a fact. Anyone can pull of crazy combos easily if they spent a little time in training mode.

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KanzarisKelshen
12/13/11 7:12:00 AM
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From: OmarsComin | #023
Ah, I see. How is that supposed to work, anyway? I assume your team is supposed to somehow complement each other but I have no idea.


Now, on topic...basically this is pretty much it. There's two ways to go about this:

A) Pick a team where everybody helps everybody. Don't worry if your characters aren't 'high-tier', that means absolutely nothing. For a good example of a player who built a super-synergistic team and did work in spite of 'playing low tier', google 'Bum stream umvc3', then skip to 40 minutes in (or don't, what comes before him is good too).

B) Pick a team where one character is the lynchpin and the other two are the backups. The ultimate example of this in UMvC3 is Phoenix Wright, who needs specific team setups to get his evidence, but there's several characters like these: Frank West is another, for instance. Here, focus on getting REALLY good with the lynchpin and learning how to properly use your assists. LEarning the other two characters is obviously a good idea, too, but if you can't do work with your main guy, you're done.

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KanzarisKelshen
12/13/11 7:13:00 AM
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From: GranzonEx | #026
Low execution isn't a complaint. It's a fact. Anyone can pull of crazy combos easily if they spent a little time in training mode.


Post a video of you pulling off the boulder loop then. 700k damage isn't a 'crazy combo', it's a decent combo. 1 million damage for one or two meter is crazy. Go on, I'm waiting on a demonstration of those mad skills of yours.

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thebestestbest
12/13/11 7:14:00 AM
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Top players play in different conditions. They get nervous and drop combos that they can do 100% of the time in training mode without pressure.

I cannot play SF4 on a pad. I can play Marvel on a pad. That is how forgiving the game is.


Wolfkrone plays C.Viper on pad in SF4 and he's a tournament threat.
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Oranejo
12/13/11 7:14:00 AM
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From: GranzonEx | #011
There is no high execution for UMvC3.


Have you tried playing as Viper. Also, Mike Ross is not terrible at Marvel. He is not a top player or anything like that, but he is definitely not terrible.

Anyway, have you spent any time doing mission mode Bob? It will allow you to get a better feel for the characters. If you are looking for some beginner friendly characters to go with Chun you could try Sentinel (Sentinel Force Charge assist), Hulk, or Wesker.

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KanzarisKelshen
12/13/11 7:15:00 AM
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From: Oranejo | #030
Have you tried playing as Viper.


Of course he hasn't. He hasn't tried playing zoning Dieminion style either. He doesn't know what he's talking about! :)

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GranzonEx
12/13/11 7:15:00 AM
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From: KanzarisKelshen | #028
Post a video of you pulling off the boulder loop then. 700k damage isn't a 'crazy combo', it's a decent combo. 1 million damage for one or two meter is crazy. Go on, I'm waiting on a demonstration of those mad skills of yours.


I don't play RR, if I pick him up I'll probably do it.

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GranzonEx
12/13/11 7:17:00 AM
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From: Oranejo | #030
Have you tried playing as Viper. Also, Mike Ross is not terrible at Marvel. He is not a top player or anything like that, but he is definitely not terrible.

Anyway, have you spent any time doing mission mode Bob? It will allow you to get a better feel for the characters. If you are looking for some beginner friendly characters to go with Chun you could try Sentinel (Sentinel Force Charge assist), Hulk, or Wesker.


Mike uses garbage characters. And no I don't use Viper. I don't play Marvel for SF characters.

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GranzonEx
12/13/11 7:18:00 AM
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From: thebestestbest | #029
Top players play in different conditions. They get nervous and drop combos that they can do 100% of the time in training mode without pressure.

I cannot play SF4 on a pad. I can play Marvel on a pad. That is how forgiving the game is.


Wolfkrone plays C.Viper on pad in SF4 and he's a tournament threat.


How many top tier pad players are there compared to stick players?

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KanzarisKelshen
12/13/11 7:19:00 AM
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From: GranzonEx | #033
Mike uses garbage characters. And no I don't use Viper. I don't play Marvel for SF characters.


Morrigan? Joe? Haggar? Chris? Zero? Dante? Spencer? All those other characters who require lots of smart thinking and skill to use to their fullest potential? Or are you too busy playing Wolvie/Akuma/Wesker and complaining about easymode executions to keep up with the new tech?

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WazzupGenius00
12/13/11 7:20:00 AM
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From: OmarsComin | #021
Are the bad sales confirmed, then? I remember there being some skepticism about the numbers. I do see that the reviews are generally worse than vanilla MvC3. I wouldn't know about the comparison, never played the first one.


It was VGChartz data, it's full of s***

review scores might be lower but if you read most reviews they say the game itself is actually better, the lower score is because of how soon it came after the first game

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GranzonEx
12/13/11 7:26:00 AM
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From: KanzarisKelshen | #035
Morrigan? Joe? Haggar? Chris? Zero? Dante? Spencer? All those other characters who require lots of smart thinking and skill to use to their fullest potential? Or are you too busy playing Wolvie/Akuma/Wesker and complaining about easymode executions to keep up with the new tech?


None of that stuff is hard. They require a little more work and creativity, but not hard.

Why are you even attacking me again? Because you find the game hard? Last time I check I said this game was good and Bob should keep playing because the entry barrier is low.

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thebestestbest
12/13/11 7:27:00 AM
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How many top tier pad players are there compared to stick players?

Both games are dominated by players who use arcade sticks. What's your point?
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KanzarisKelshen
12/13/11 7:29:00 AM
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From: GranzonEx | #037
None of that stuff is hard. They require a little more work and creativity, but not hard.

Why are you even attacking me again? Because you find the game hard? Last time I check I said this game was good and Bob should keep playing because the entry barrier is low.


Nah, because saying UMvC3 has a low skill ceiling is just crazytalk. Sure, there's a bunch of easymode characters (like four or five), but several characters need either lots of good reads to make work or pinpoint precision with their moves. Trust me, taking advantage of Mad Beast in a real match is the furthest from easy you can get. It's pretty much like playing on turbo mode with maximum frameskip.

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OmarsComin
12/13/11 9:05:00 AM
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Anyway, have you spent any time doing mission mode Bob? It will allow you to get a better feel for the characters. If you are looking for some beginner friendly characters to go with Chun you could try Sentinel (Sentinel Force Charge assist), Hulk, or Wesker.

I haven't yet, I'll make that the next thing I do, thanks. I hear dirty things about Wesker though.

As far as that stick vs pad talk goes, are there any notable pad MvC3 players outside of Fanatiq?
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BIGPUN9999
12/13/11 9:10:00 AM
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oh god what the hell is this

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Tornadoman78
12/13/11 9:48:00 AM
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i bet your also bad at any game you play

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KamikazePotato
12/13/11 9:52:00 AM
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ITT, people bad at a game complain about that game being bad

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OmarsComin
12/13/11 10:17:00 AM
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i bet your also bad at any game you play

wat ever ertyu I will fight you in any game any time
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Tornadoman78
12/13/11 10:19:00 AM
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what ever like i would want to anyway

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OmarsComin
12/13/11 10:19:00 AM
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I bet you are bad ertyu
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SythaWarrior
12/13/11 10:23:00 AM
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I bought UMVC3 played it maybe 15 hours then KoFXIII came out the next week and UMVC3 has been collecting dust since.

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Tornadoman78
12/13/11 10:23:00 AM
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what ever no im not i beat any fight now if your exsue me im busy and dont have time for the likes of you

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BIGPUN9999
12/13/11 10:24:00 AM
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get on XBL ertyu, lets boogie

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Tornadoman78
12/13/11 10:33:00 AM
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well sorry i dont bother playing on line with people case its just a waste of time to me i only play videos games to beat them and that is all now im going back to my websites

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