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pkmnmaster6591 12/13/11 10:41:00 PM #1:	http://www.trentonian.com/articles/2009/05/14/news/doc4a0b88469df2c448743841.txt It seems like some people that worked in the prison knew about it but didn't say anything. Wtf is wrong with people these days jeez. <cite>pkmnmaster6591 posted [p:553149] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> http://www.trentonian.com/articles/2009/05/14/news/doc4a0b88469df2c448743841.txtIt seems like some people that worked in the prison knew about it but didn't say anything. Wtf is wrong with people these days jeez. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skull_bonek23 12/13/11 10:42:00 PM #2:	This just in! People get raped in jail! -- skull <cite>skull_bonek23 posted [p:553150] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> This just in!People get raped in jail! -- skull </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mumei 12/13/11 10:43:00 PM #3:	Something being commonplace doesn't make it less disturbing. -- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage <cite>Mumei posted [p:553151] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> Something being commonplace doesn't make it less disturbing. -- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pkmnmaster6591 12/13/11 10:44:00 PM #4:	That's not my main point. I'm disturbed that the guards and the warden tried to keep this a secret. <cite>pkmnmaster6591 posted [p:553152] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> That's not my main point. I'm disturbed that the guards and the warden tried to keep this a secret. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aecioo 12/13/11 10:48:00 PM #5:	A coach from Penn State is being charged with child molestation, and the entire school is somehow involved with covering it up... and you're surprised with a prison covering up rape? >_> -- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ <cite>Aecioo posted [p:553153] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> A coach from Penn State is being charged with child molestation, and the entire school is somehow involved with covering it up... and you're surprised with a prison covering up rape?>_> -- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gifhttp://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tereziWright 12/13/11 10:49:00 PM #6:	Attempts to reach Warden Cox were unsuccessful. Holy ** I'm so immature. -- http://img.imgcake.com/SnowstuckAshtonSenserigifta.gif http://img.imgcake.com/HugstuckAshtonSunserigifze.gif <cite>tereziWright posted [p:553154] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> Attempts to reach Warden Cox were unsuccessful.Holy ** I'm so immature. -- http://img.imgcake.com/SnowstuckAshtonSenserigifta.gifhttp://img.imgcake.com/HugstuckAshtonSunserigifze.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pkmnmaster6591 12/13/11 10:51:00 PM #7:	I said I'm disturbed not surprised. Stuff like this is just plain wrong. Couldn't the victim have reported this or are prisoners not allowed outside contact to report this? <cite>pkmnmaster6591 posted [p:553155] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> I said I'm disturbed not surprised. Stuff like this is just plain wrong. Couldn't the victim have reported this or are prisoners not allowed outside contact to report this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pkmnmaster6591 12/13/11 10:53:00 PM #8:	You would think that trying to get justice for the victims would be much more important than trying to protect the reputation of a school or prison. Honestly, the third parties in situations like these don't deserve to live. <cite>pkmnmaster6591 posted [p:553156] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> You would think that trying to get justice for the victims would be much more important than trying to protect the reputation of a school or prison. Honestly, the third parties in situations like these don't deserve to live. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarvelousGerbil 12/13/11 10:53:00 PM #9:	*Mumei posted...* Something being commonplace doesn't make it less disturbing. Actually it does... desensitization and all... It does not, however make it acceptable. -- http://i.imgur.com/6XjQR.gif <cite>MarvelousGerbil posted [p:553157] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> Mumei posted...Something being commonplace doesn't make it less disturbing.Actually it does... desensitization and all... It does not, however make it acceptable. -- http://i.imgur.com/6XjQR.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mumei 12/13/11 11:05:00 PM #10:	I said I'm disturbed not surprised. Stuff like this is just plain wrong. Couldn't the victim have reported this or are prisoners not allowed outside contact to report this? ... You are a bit naive on this issue. For instance, with regards to juvenile detention: http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2010/jan/07/the-crisis-of-juvenile-prison-rape-a-new-report/ "What sort of kids get locked up in the first place? Only 34 percent of those in juvenile detention are there for violent crimes. (More than 200,000 youth are also tried as adults in the U.S. every year, and on any given day approximately 8,500 kids under 18 are confined in adult prisons and jails. Although probably at greater risk of sexual abuse than any other detained population, they weren’t included in the BJS study.) According to a report by the National Prison Rape Elimination Commission, which was itself created by PREA, more than 20 percent of those in juvenile detention were confined for technical offenses such as violating probation, or for “status offenses” like disobeying parental orders, missing curfews, truancy, or running away—often from violence and abuse at home. Many suffer from mental illness, substance abuse, and learning disabilities. A full 80 percent of the abuse reported in the study was perpetrated not by other inmates but by staff. And shockingly, 95 percent of the youth making such allegations said they were victimized by female staff. 63 percent of them reported at least one incident of sexual contact with staff in which no force or explicit coercion was used; staff caught having sex with inmates often claim it’s consensual. But staff have enormous control over inmates’ lives. They can give them privileges, such as extra food or clothing or the opportunity to wash, and they can punish them: everything from beatings to solitary confinement to extended sentences. The notion of a truly consensual relationship in such circumstances is grotesque even when the inmate is not a child. Nationally, however, fewer than half of the corrections officials whose sexual abuse of juveniles is confirmed are referred for prosecution, and almost none are seriously punished. Although it is a crime for staff to have sex with inmates in all 50 states, prosecutors rarely take on such cases. As children’s advocate Isela Gutierrez put it to The Texas Observer, “local prosecutors don’t consider these kids to be their constituents.” A quarter of all known staff predators in youth facilities are allowed to keep their positions. The biggest risk factor found in the study was prior abuse. 65 percent of those who had previously been sexually assaulted at another correctional facility were also assaulted at their current one. In prison culture, even in juvenile detention, after an inmate is raped for the first time he is considered “turned out,” and fair game for further abuse. 81 percent of those sexually abused by other inmates were victimized more than once, and 32 percent more than ten times. 42 percent were assaulted by more than one perpetrator. Of those victimized by staff, 88 percent had been abused repeatedly, 27 percent more than ten times, and 33 percent by more than one facility employee. Those who took the survey had been in their facilities for an average of just half a year. In essence, the survey shows that thousands of children are raped and molested every year while in the government’s care—most often, by the very corrections officials charged with their rehabilitation and protection." -- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage <cite>Mumei posted [p:553158] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> I said I'm disturbed not surprised. Stuff like this is just plain wrong. Couldn't the victim have reported this or are prisoners not allowed outside contact to report this?... You are a bit naive on this issue. For instance, with regards to juvenile detention:http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2010/jan/07/the-crisis-of-juvenile-prison-rape-a-new-report/"What sort of kids get locked up in the first place? Only 34 percent of those in juvenile detention are there for violent crimes. (More than 200,000 youth are also tried as adults in the U.S. every year, and on any given day approximately 8,500 kids under 18 are confined in adult prisons and jails. Although probably at greater risk of sexual abuse than any other detained population, they weren’t included in the BJS study.) According to a report by the National Prison Rape Elimination Commission, which was itself created by PREA, more than 20 percent of those in juvenile detention were confined for technical offenses such as violating probation, or for “status offenses” like disobeying parental orders, missing curfews, truancy, or running away—often from violence and abuse at home. Many suffer from mental illness, substance abuse, and learning disabilities.A full 80 percent of the abuse reported in the study was perpetrated not by other inmates but by staff. And shockingly, 95 percent of the youth making such allegations said they were victimized by female staff. 63 percent of them reported at least one incident of sexual contact with staff in which no force or explicit coercion was used; staff caught having sex with inmates often claim it’s consensual. But staff have enormous control over inmates’ lives. They can give them privileges, such as extra food or clothing or the opportunity to wash, and they can punish them: everything from beatings to solitary confinement to extended sentences. The notion of a truly consensual relationship in such circumstances is grotesque even when the inmate is not a child.Nationally, however, fewer than half of the corrections officials whose sexual abuse of juveniles is confirmed are referred for prosecution, and almost none are seriously punished. Although it is a crime for staff to have sex with inmates in all 50 states, prosecutors rarely take on such cases. As children’s advocate Isela Gutierrez put it to The Texas Observer, “local prosecutors don’t consider these kids to be their constituents.” A quarter of all known staff predators in youth facilities are allowed to keep their positions.The biggest risk factor found in the study was prior abuse. 65 percent of those who had previously been sexually assaulted at another correctional facility were also assaulted at their current one. In prison culture, even in juvenile detention, after an inmate is raped for the first time he is considered “turned out,” and fair game for further abuse. 81 percent of those sexually abused by other inmates were victimized more than once, and 32 percent more than ten times. 42 percent were assaulted by more than one perpetrator. Of those victimized by staff, 88 percent had been abused repeatedly, 27 percent more than ten times, and 33 percent by more than one facility employee. Those who took the survey had been in their facilities for an average of just half a year. In essence, the survey shows that thousands of children are raped and molested every year while in the government’s care—most often, by the very corrections officials charged with their rehabilitation and protection." -- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mumei 12/13/11 11:05:00 PM #11:	And there's a reason that the Human Rights Watch's report on male rape in prisons is called "No Escape." http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/ "Prisoners unable to escape a situation of sexual abuse may find themselves becoming another inmate's "property." The word is commonly used in prison to refer to sexually subordinate inmates, and it is no exaggeration. Victims of prison rape, in the most extreme cases, are literally the slaves of the perpetrators. Forced to satisfy another man's sexual appetites whenever he demands, they may also be responsible for washing his clothes, massaging his back, cooking his food, cleaning his cell, and myriad other chores. They are frequently "rented out" for sex, sold, or even auctioned off to other inmates, replicating the financial aspects of traditional slavery. Their most basic choices, like how to dress and whom to talk to, may be controlled by the person who "owns" them. Their name may be replaced by a female one. Like all forms of slavery, these situations are among the most degrading and dehumanizing experiences a person can undergo." "The first time M.R. was raped -- "which felt like having a tree limb shoved up into me" -- he told the prison chaplain about it, and the chaplain had him write out a statement for the facility's Internal Affairs department. According to M.R.'s description of the events, the Internal Affairs investigator brought both the victim and the perpetrator into a room together and asked them what had happened. Although M.R. was terrified to speak of the incident in front of the other inmate, he told his story, while the perpetrator claimed the sex was consensual. After both of them had spoken, the investigator told them that "lovers' quarrels" were not of interest to Internal Affairs, sending them both back to their cells. "The guy shoved me into his house and raped me again," M.R. later told Human Rights Watch. "It was a lot more violent this time." M.R. spent several months trying to escape the rapist, facing repeated abuse. He filed grievances over the first couple of rapes in an effort to draw the attention of prison officials; they were returned saying the sexual assaults never occurred. On the last day of December, the rapist showed up on M.R.'s wing and threatened to kill M.R. with a combination lock. "I was in the dayroom. I remember eating a piece of cornbread and the next thing I knew I woke up in the hospital," M.R. recalled. A room full of prisoners saw the rapist nearly kill M.R. and then rape him in the middle of the dayroom. The rapist hit M.R. so hard with the lock that when M.R. regained consciousness he could read the word "Master"--the lockmaker--on his forehead. Four years later, a Human Rights Watch researcher could still see the round impression of the lock on the right side of his forehead. In all, M.R. suffered a broken neck, jaw, left collarbone, and finger; a dislocated left shoulder; two major concussions, and lacerations to his scalp that caused bleeding on the brain. Notwithstanding the extreme violence of the attack, and despite M.R.'s best efforts to press charges, the rapist was never criminally prosecuted." There's also stuff about prison staff deliberately placing at-risk prisoners ("young, small in size, physically weak, white, gay, first offender, possessing "feminine" characteristics such as long hair or a high voice; being unassertive, unaggressive, shy, intellectual, not street-smart, or "passive"; or having been convicted of a sexual offense against a minor") with prisoners known to have raped other prisoners in the past. There are lots of people who assume that prison rape is either an unavoidable or - more disgustingly - a desirable part of prisons, unfortunately. -- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage <cite>Mumei posted [p:553159] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> And there's a reason that the Human Rights Watch's report on male rape in prisons is called "No Escape."http://www.hrw.org/reports/2001/prison/"Prisoners unable to escape a situation of sexual abuse may find themselves becoming another inmate's "property." The word is commonly used in prison to refer to sexually subordinate inmates, and it is no exaggeration. Victims of prison rape, in the most extreme cases, are literally the slaves of the perpetrators. Forced to satisfy another man's sexual appetites whenever he demands, they may also be responsible for washing his clothes, massaging his back, cooking his food, cleaning his cell, and myriad other chores. They are frequently "rented out" for sex, sold, or even auctioned off to other inmates, replicating the financial aspects of traditional slavery. Their most basic choices, like how to dress and whom to talk to, may be controlled by the person who "owns" them. Their name may be replaced by a female one. Like all forms of slavery, these situations are among the most degrading and dehumanizing experiences a person can undergo.""The first time M.R. was raped -- "which felt like having a tree limb shoved up into me" -- he told the prison chaplain about it, and the chaplain had him write out a statement for the facility's Internal Affairs department. According to M.R.'s description of the events, the Internal Affairs investigator brought both the victim and the perpetrator into a room together and asked them what had happened. Although M.R. was terrified to speak of the incident in front of the other inmate, he told his story, while the perpetrator claimed the sex was consensual. After both of them had spoken, the investigator told them that "lovers' quarrels" were not of interest to Internal Affairs, sending them both back to their cells. "The guy shoved me into his house and raped me again," M.R. later told Human Rights Watch. "It was a lot more violent this time."M.R. spent several months trying to escape the rapist, facing repeated abuse. He filed grievances over the first couple of rapes in an effort to draw the attention of prison officials; they were returned saying the sexual assaults never occurred. On the last day of December, the rapist showed up on M.R.'s wing and threatened to kill M.R. with a combination lock. "I was in the dayroom. I remember eating a piece of cornbread and the next thing I knew I woke up in the hospital," M.R. recalled. A room full of prisoners saw the rapist nearly kill M.R. and then rape him in the middle of the dayroom. The rapist hit M.R. so hard with the lock that when M.R. regained consciousness he could read the word "Master"--the lockmaker--on his forehead. Four years later, a Human Rights Watch researcher could still see the round impression of the lock on the right side of his forehead. In all, M.R. suffered a broken neck, jaw, left collarbone, and finger; a dislocated left shoulder; two major concussions, and lacerations to his scalp that caused bleeding on the brain. Notwithstanding the extreme violence of the attack, and despite M.R.'s best efforts to press charges, the rapist was never criminally prosecuted."There's also stuff about prison staff deliberately placing at-risk prisoners ("young, small in size, physically weak, white, gay, first offender, possessing "feminine" characteristics such as long hair or a high voice; being unassertive, unaggressive, shy, intellectual, not street-smart, or "passive"; or having been convicted of a sexual offense against a minor") with prisoners known to have raped other prisoners in the past.There are lots of people who assume that prison rape is either an unavoidable or - more disgustingly - a desirable part of prisons, unfortunately. -- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Azp2k32 12/13/11 11:10:00 PM #12:	I remember reading some statistics a while back that cited the amount of rapes of males in American prisons to be larger than the amount of reported rapes of females in the entire USA. It's pretty f*ed up and a disturbingly awful example of gender double standards. -- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif <cite>Azp2k32 posted [p:553160] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> I remember reading some statistics a while back that cited the amount of rapes of males in American prisons to be larger than the amount of reported rapes of females in the entire USA. It's pretty f*ed up and a disturbingly awful example of gender double standards. -- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pkmnmaster6591 12/13/11 11:21:00 PM #13:	^^Are those reports and statistics about all prisoners or just male ones? <cite>pkmnmaster6591 posted [p:553161] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> ^^Are those reports and statistics about all prisoners or just male ones? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Azp2k32 12/13/11 11:22:00 PM #14:	*pkmnmaster6591 posted...* ^^Are those reports and statistics about all prisoners or just male ones? It was specifically male prisoners. -- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif <cite>Azp2k32 posted [p:553162] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> pkmnmaster6591 posted...^^Are those reports and statistics about all prisoners or just male ones?It was specifically male prisoners. -- http://www.nbc.com/parks-and-recreation/exclusives/ron-dancing-animated.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pkmnmaster6591 12/13/11 11:24:00 PM #15:	*Azp2k32 posted...* pkmnmaster6591 posted... ^^Are those reports and statistics about all prisoners or just male ones? It was specifically male prisoners. I was addressing Mumei. Sorry for the confusion. <cite>pkmnmaster6591 posted [p:553163] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> Azp2k32 posted...pkmnmaster6591 posted...^^Are those reports and statistics about all prisoners or just male ones?It was specifically male prisoners.I was addressing Mumei. Sorry for the confusion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pkmnmaster6591 12/13/11 11:28:00 PM #16:	I agree with what you said though. It really isn't fair and it's very disturbing how male victims aren't taken nearly as seriously as female victims. <cite>pkmnmaster6591 posted [p:553164] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> I agree with what you said though. It really isn't fair and it's very disturbing how male victims aren't taken nearly as seriously as female victims. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mumei 12/15/11 1:24:00 AM #17:	*pkmnmaster6591 posted...* Azp2k32 posted... pkmnmaster6591 posted... ^^Are those reports and statistics about all prisoners or just male ones? It was specifically male prisoners. I was addressing Mumei. Sorry for the confusion. It was specifically male prisoners, with regards to the adults. I don't recall if the one regarding children differentiated by gender, though I think it might have. -- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage <cite>Mumei posted [p:553165] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> pkmnmaster6591 posted...Azp2k32 posted...pkmnmaster6591 posted...^^Are those reports and statistics about all prisoners or just male ones?It was specifically male prisoners.I was addressing Mumei. Sorry for the confusion.It was specifically male prisoners, with regards to the adults. I don't recall if the one regarding children differentiated by gender, though I think it might have. -- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YetAnothrShadow 12/15/11 1:29:00 AM #18:	From: pkmnmaster6591 \| #004 That's not my main point. I'm disturbed that the guards and the warden tried to keep this a secret. This is nothing new either. Like at all. -- Brawl is like ZSS' breasts. Well rounded for casual players. http://img.imgcake.com/1319527328883gifad.gif <cite>YetAnothrShadow posted [p:553166] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> From: pkmnmaster6591 \| #004That's not my main point. I'm disturbed that the guards and the warden tried to keep this a secret.This is nothing new either. Like at all. -- Brawl is like ZSS' breasts. Well rounded for casual players.http://img.imgcake.com/1319527328883gifad.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vlado 12/15/11 1:54:00 AM #19:	*YetAnothrShadow posted...* From: pkmnmaster6591 \| #004 That's not my main point. I'm disturbed that the guards and the warden tried to keep this a secret. This is nothing new either. Like at all. Your point? It's not new, so it shouldn't be mentioned? Society should always condemn such things. -- If you like Blitzball, try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES! Top games: http://unikgamer.com/users/vlado-309.html <cite>Vlado posted [p:553167] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> YetAnothrShadow posted...From: pkmnmaster6591 \| #004That's not my main point. I'm disturbed that the guards and the warden tried to keep this a secret.This is nothing new either. Like at all.Your point? It's not new, so it shouldn't be mentioned? Society should always condemn such things. -- If you like Blitzball, try Captain Tsubasa II (in English) for NES!Top games: http://unikgamer.com/users/vlado-309.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ExThaNemesis 12/15/11 2:12:00 AM #20:	Holy christ at those prison rape stats. Talk about a major crime deterrent. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "I was wrong." - SmartMuffin <cite>ExThaNemesis posted [p:553168] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> Holy christ at those prison rape stats.Talk about a major crime deterrent. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg"I was wrong." - SmartMuffin </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
firefdr 12/15/11 2:52:00 AM #21:	I'm killing myself before going to prison <cite>firefdr posted [p:553169] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> I'm killing myself before going to prison </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadosneko 12/15/11 5:17:00 AM #22:	prison wont deter crime but I'm sure some ginormous black dudes shlong would why is this not an anti-crime ad campaign -- http://backloggery.com/shados http://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko <cite>shadosneko posted [p:553170] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> prison wont deter crimebut I'm sure some ginormous black dudes shlong wouldwhy is this not an anti-crime ad campaign -- http://backloggery.com/shadoshttp://last.fm/user/ShadosNeko </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GenesisSaga 12/15/11 9:09:00 AM #23:	^But it is! <cite>GenesisSaga posted [p:553171] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> ^But it is! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pkmnmaster6591 12/15/11 11:50:00 PM #24:	*Mumei posted...* pkmnmaster6591 posted... Azp2k32 posted... pkmnmaster6591 posted... ^^Are those reports and statistics about all prisoners or just male ones? It was specifically male prisoners. I was addressing Mumei. Sorry for the confusion. It was specifically male prisoners, with regards to the adults. I don't recall if the one regarding children differentiated by gender, though I think it might have. It's so frustrating that no one takes this stuff seriously when it happens to males, but when it happens to females the whole world speaks out about the issue. <cite>pkmnmaster6591 posted [p:553172] in This is so... [t:61347259]...</cite> <quote> Mumei posted...pkmnmaster6591 posted...Azp2k32 posted...pkmnmaster6591 posted...^^Are those reports and statistics about all prisoners or just male ones?It was specifically male prisoners.I was addressing Mumei. Sorry for the confusion.It was specifically male prisoners, with regards to the adults. I don't recall if the one regarding children differentiated by gender, though I think it might have.It's so frustrating that no one takes this stuff seriously when it happens to males, but when it happens to females the whole world speaks out about the issue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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