Board 8 > have you guys seen the Ocean Marketting thing yet?

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transience
12/27/11 7:14:00 PM
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this has been going on all day. this douchey PR guy has had an unbelievable day of digging a hole for himself in every way possible.

original article on Penny Arcade - http://penny-arcade.com/2011/12/26/just-wow1
updated post showing the guy's actions for the day - http://aggregame.com/news/2011/12/27/paul-christoforo-ocean-marketing-the-short-version/
awesome parody -

it's a long-ish read but give it a shot. pretty funny/stupid stuff, all told.

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The Mana Sword
12/27/11 7:36:00 PM
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The fake twitter account is kind of amazing.

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transience
12/27/11 7:38:00 PM
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foolm0ron
12/27/11 7:40:00 PM
#4:


LOL the guy posted the parody video on his twitter

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Wanglicious
12/27/11 7:45:00 PM
#5:


...i do believe he can get into real, legal trouble for saying that on twitter.

but i'm sure somebody's on that.

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Redtooth
12/27/11 7:48:00 PM
#6:


Oh man, that guy just kept digging himself deeper too. What a moron.

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Ness26
12/27/11 7:50:00 PM
#7:


.... wow.

Hoping that guy gets what he deserves.

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Rockdan
12/27/11 7:50:00 PM
#8:


How does someone even get into a public relations job and not realize that this sort of thing is the exact opposite of your intended job?

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foolm0ron
12/27/11 7:51:00 PM
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I feel like this is just a fantastic character and story fabricated by Penny Arcade

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VintageGin
12/27/11 7:53:00 PM
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That's...wow.

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Ness26
12/27/11 7:55:00 PM
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Too late, though. David Kotkin, inventor of the controller in question has fired Ocean Marketing and posted a public apology. “We apologize for our poor representation from Ocean Marketing. We wanted to give Paul a chance. He was rough around the edges, but he had drive and enthusiasm. However his behavior was unprovoked, unnecessary, and unforgivable. We are no longer represented by Ocean Marketing.”

http://www.gamefront.com/ocean-marketing-delivers-the-biggest-pr-fail-in-history/

Whooo.

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Tom Bombadil
12/27/11 7:56:00 PM
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o_O

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Shoenin_Kakashi
12/27/11 7:59:00 PM
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XD

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Wanglicious
12/27/11 8:05:00 PM
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http://www.examiner.com/video-game-industry-in-national/ocean-marketing-gaming-pr-rep-to-avoid-at-all-cost

this timeline.
this timeline.

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Wanglicious
12/27/11 8:07:00 PM
#15:


specifically it's update 12 that will blow your mind.
i have a new soap opera to watch.

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transience
12/27/11 8:09:00 PM
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Wanglicious
12/27/11 8:12:00 PM
#17:


that's a pretty amazing find. guy's losing ANY sympathy from anybody with that along the way.

but seriously:
Update 12: In an odd twist, according to Corporation Wiki, both Paul Christoforo of Ocean Marketing and David Kotkin of N-Control has their names attached to a joint venture based in Miami, Florida. Per records kept by the Florida Department of State, the profile for Afternoon Artists Inc. though scarce on details has the names of the two men listed together. Christoforo is listed as Secretary whilst Kotkin is named as President, Director and Treasurer. Even more suspect is the last update for the profile being 10/22/2011, or roughly 2 months ago. Kotkin will be contacted for comment and this article will be updated accordingly.

as he put it himself:

David Kotkin
Owner/Inventor
Avenger Controller




i am so glad i bought a tin of popcorn.

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Ness26
12/27/11 8:16:00 PM
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This is fascinating in a sick way.

The power of the internet is amazing. Look at how much stuff got dug up on this guy once Penny Arcade posted the emails.

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Wanglicious
12/27/11 8:17:00 PM
#20:


penny arcade rallied pretty much every corner of the internet, including 4chan i bet.

i mean this is one of those situations where everyone basically is going '...well, okay. this one might deserve it.'

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transcience
12/27/11 8:17:00 PM
#21:


yes. I think the response from the internet tweaks me out more than a douchebag being a douchebag. they swarm like vultures at the slightest glimpse of a cause.

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Delseban
12/27/11 8:28:00 PM
#22:


thanks for posting this! it was a great read.
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foolm0ron
12/27/11 8:29:00 PM
#23:


So what is update 12 saying? That Kotkin is partners with the Paul guy? Or Paul is impersonating the Kotkin guy?

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SovietOmega
12/27/11 8:30:00 PM
#24:


a delicious trainwreck...

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GenesisTwilight
12/27/11 8:31:00 PM
#25:


I hate to admit it, but I'm morbidly curious as to what this guy's family life is gonna be like now that he's brought it up in those apology emails.

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GranzonEx
12/27/11 8:32:00 PM
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I was following this throughout the day, was surprised it took this long to get a topic here. This guy probably recently watched the episode of Seinfeld where George got a job with the Yankees >_>

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Wanglicious
12/27/11 8:33:00 PM
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that they're partners, yeah. Kotkin said that Paul was just a nice guy and rough around the edges and dismissed him like he was just some guy met for business randomly.

but it turns out they already have a business together. so there's some history between 'em.

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CherryCokes
12/27/11 8:36:00 PM
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i don't think he knows what interest free means

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Ness26
12/27/11 8:37:00 PM
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From: GenesisTwilight | #025
I hate to admit it, but I'm morbidly curious as to what this guy's family life is gonna be like now that he's brought it up in those apology emails.


Well, tran posted a link to a domestic abuse charge being filed against him so...

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GenesisTwilight
12/27/11 8:38:00 PM
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From: Ness26 | #029
Well, tran posted a link to a domestic abuse charge being filed against him so...


Which was what, 3 years ago?

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SpeedYoshi
12/27/11 8:41:00 PM
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From: transcience | #021
yes. I think the response from the internet tweaks me out more than a douchebag being a douchebag. they swarm like vultures at the slightest glimpse of a cause.


It's a pretty hilarious effect

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CherryCokes
12/27/11 9:01:00 PM
#32:


i have no idea which twitter is parody and which is real

oh gods

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Wanglicious
12/27/11 9:29:00 PM
#34:


hmmm..
a company not created because of this issue with paul that.... took place months afterwards?


this is gonna be so much fun.

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Ness26
12/27/11 9:30:00 PM
#35:


I'm guessing it's less interesting than people are hoping.

It's probably the two guys knew each other, thought of starting some sort of LLC and then ended up bailing on it. Later David ends up in a position to hire someone for marketing and decides to give it to his friend Paul, even though he knows that Paul might not be the best for the job. I doubt it's some crazy conspiracy or whatever.

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Ness26
12/27/11 9:31:00 PM
#36:


From: Wanglicious | #034
a company not created because of this issue with paul that.... took place months afterwards?


Given that Paul did this incident now, it's not too hard to imagine that working with him in general had other issues.

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Wanglicious
12/27/11 9:37:00 PM
#37:


stop being logical it's killing my fun. ;_;

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masterplum
12/27/11 9:51:00 PM
#38:


Tag


This is going places

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SmartMuffin
12/27/11 9:53:00 PM
#39:


From: transcience | #021
yes. I think the response from the internet tweaks me out more than a douchebag being a douchebag. they swarm like vultures at the slightest glimpse of a cause.


This.

I can never get really outraged or amused by these things, because I know that 95% of the Internet is way way way TOO outraged and/or amused by them.

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abiggeebabigee
12/27/11 10:02:00 PM
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Best case of the internets ganging up since Toobis.

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Icehawk
12/27/11 10:36:00 PM
#41:


what the hell

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LordoftheMorons
12/27/11 11:10:00 PM
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Hahaha what a douchebag

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Paratroopa1
12/27/11 11:15:00 PM
#43:


Man, I actually kind of feel sorry for this guy. Like, he's obviously a total douchebag, but the reaction to this story is going to ruin him. He really could have just been having an especially douchebaggy day, and it's almost scary how quickly the internet zeroed in on this dude.
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Rad Link 5
12/27/11 11:35:00 PM
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This is incredible.

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PokeStalker
12/27/11 11:42:00 PM
#45:


LOL

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MoogleKupo141
12/27/11 11:50:00 PM
#46:


this dude actually posted on Reddit today at one point too just to be a dick to some guy and then deleted his post after people figured out it was him

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foolm0ron
12/27/11 11:54:00 PM
#47:


From: Paratroopa1 | #043
it's almost scary how quickly the internet zeroed in on this dude.


The trick is that EVERYONE can relate to the victim -- the guy who was just trying to figure out when his controller was gonna arrive

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MoogleKupo141
12/27/11 11:57:00 PM
#48:


Man, I actually kind of feel sorry for this guy. Like, he's obviously a total douchebag, but the reaction to this story is going to ruin him. He really could have just been having an especially douchebaggy day, and it's almost scary how quickly the internet zeroed in on this dude.

There's a similar thing that's like eight months old. This isn't a totally isolated incident for him. Also, there are specific things he says that look pretty clearly like total douche rather than douchebag for a day. Did you see his apology to Gabe? It's pretty much just "Oh, sorry. I didn't realize you were an important person. I thought I was being a dick to some loser. Please forgive me." It's the least sincere apology ever.

and the email exchange that started this thing happened over a period of months. This is a pattern of behavior.

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Wanglicious
12/28/11 12:02:00 AM
#49:


yeah, i really can't forgive a guy for saying what he said there. it's a customer, if he was caught on a bad day it would've been clear from the 2nd email, 3rd the worst. he wouldn't be doing any of the 'welcome to the internet' crap that he pulled there or say anything that he did. he's a complete asswipe and is getting whipped by the entire net as a result. hard to feel sorry for a guy who isn't.

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Rad Link 5
12/28/11 12:05:00 AM
#50:


Oh my god this has had me laughing out loud for over ten minutes now. I keep finding more to this.

http://kotaku.com/5871400/cut-paul-oceanmarketting-christoforo-a-breakhe-probably-just-has-roid-rage

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