Board 8 > This was the idiot we gave the Heisman to

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14_and_counting 12/29/11 7:48:00 PM #1:	As I stated on that ungodly evil night when RG3 won an award he should have finished 5th in, this guy had absolutely no right winning this award. He is simply not Heisman material. End of. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:610841] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> As I stated on that ungodly evil night when RG3 won an award he should have finished 5th in, this guy had absolutely no right winning this award. He is simply not Heisman material. End of. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revenus 12/29/11 7:49:00 PM #2:	how many facebook friends do u have brah -- What is this?!? A Center for Ants!? <cite>Revenus posted [p:610842] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> how many facebook friends do u have brah -- What is this?!?A Center for Ants!? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 12/29/11 7:51:00 PM #3:	From: Revenus \| #002 how many facebook friends do u have brah I have not used my Facebook for about 2 years now. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:610843] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: Revenus \| #002how many facebook friends do u have brahI have not used my Facebook for about 2 years now. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 12/29/11 7:52:00 PM #4:	I don't really agree with the sentiment that RG3 was undeserving, but as long as Washington is kicking his ass enough for you to say that, I'm with you all the way. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:610844] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> I don't really agree with the sentiment that RG3 was undeserving, but as long as Washington is kicking his ass enough for you to say that, I'm with you all the way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LowCalorieH2O 12/29/11 7:52:00 PM #5:	That wasn't the question -- http://www.dailyfork.com/Sea-Water-Diet-Water.jpg http://crossroadscharlotte.com/media/blog/706.jpg <cite>LowCalorieH2O posted [p:610845] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> That wasn't the question -- http://www.dailyfork.com/Sea-Water-Diet-Water.jpghttp://crossroadscharlotte.com/media/blog/706.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 12/29/11 8:09:00 PM #6:	From: LowCalorieH2O \| #005 That wasn't the question Right, but since I have not been on it for 2 years, I don't know how many I had. I apparently have alot of unanswered friend requests, because I will occasionally hear about them from people I know. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:610846] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: LowCalorieH2O \| #005That wasn't the questionRight, but since I have not been on it for 2 years, I don't know how many I had. I apparently have alot of unanswered friend requests, because I will occasionally hear about them from people I know. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/29/11 8:11:00 PM #7:	Yes, because Heisman Trophy winners always do well in bowl games. -- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am SuperNiceDog...the rain transformed." <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:610847] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> Yes, because Heisman Trophy winners always do well in bowl games. -- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside.""I am SuperNiceDog...the rain transformed." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/29/11 9:42:00 PM #8:	Oh wait, what's this I see? MWC looking like an idiot because he spoke prematurely? What a rare sight this is -- All SuperNiceDog does is win! http://www.miscupload.com/upload/452457071929141623517416.gif <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:610848] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> Oh wait, what's this I see?MWC looking like an idiot because he spoke prematurely?What a rare sight this is -- All SuperNiceDog does is win! http://www.miscupload.com/upload/452457071929141623517416.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iamdead7 12/29/11 9:48:00 PM #9:	LOLOL -- The box says "Online Gameplay not rated by ESRB", I should be able to trade my phallic named Wobbufetts to a bunch of 8 year olds. - MarvelousGerbil <cite>Iamdead7 posted [p:610849] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> LOLOL -- The box says "Online Gameplay not rated by ESRB", I should be able to trade my phallic named Wobbufetts to a bunch of 8 year olds. - MarvelousGerbil </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
baron von toast 12/29/11 9:49:00 PM #10:	Nice. -- . <cite>baron von toast posted [p:610850] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> Nice. -- . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 12/29/11 9:49:00 PM #11:	His RB put up 200 yards, and the other team could not hold on to the ball in the second half. Literally has nothing to do with RG3. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:610851] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> His RB put up 200 yards, and the other team could not hold on to the ball in the second half. Literally has nothing to do with RG3. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bidoofaphilia 12/29/11 9:50:00 PM #12:	*LeonhartFour posted...* Oh wait, what's this I see? MWC looking like an idiot because he spoke prematurely? What a rare sight this is You'd think he'd learn to just never speak by now. <cite>Bidoofaphilia posted [p:610852] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> LeonhartFour posted...Oh wait, what's this I see?MWC looking like an idiot because he spoke prematurely?What a rare sight this isYou'd think he'd learn to just never speak by now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/29/11 9:50:00 PM #13:	Yeah, 350 total yards and 2 TDs literally had nothing to do with winning this game. -- SuperNiceDog is better than a bunny slug: http://img.imgcake.com/nio/26leonpngat.png http://img.imgcake.com/nio/daigohadoupnguj.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:610853] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> Yeah, 350 total yards and 2 TDs literally had nothing to do with winning this game. -- SuperNiceDog is better than a bunny slug: http://img.imgcake.com/nio/26leonpngat.pnghttp://img.imgcake.com/nio/daigohadoupnguj.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 12/29/11 9:51:00 PM #14:	From: LeonhartFour \| #013 Yeah, 350 total yards and 2 TDs literally had nothing to do with winning this game. Out of 17. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:610854] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: LeonhartFour \| #013Yeah, 350 total yards and 2 TDs literally had nothing to do with winning this game.Out of 17. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/29/11 9:52:00 PM #15:	I mean, this whole anti-RG3 sentiment was pretty dumb to begin with because your arguments for him not winning were preposterous since they basically reinforced what used to be the big problem with Heisman Trophy voting, but still, just icing on the cake. -- Suddenly, everyone turned into SuperNiceDog http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:610855] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> I mean, this whole anti-RG3 sentiment was pretty dumb to begin with because your arguments for him not winning were preposterous since they basically reinforced what used to be the big problem with Heisman Trophy voting, but still, just icing on the cake. -- Suddenly, everyone turned into SuperNiceDoghttp://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/29/11 9:52:00 PM #16:	From: 14_and_counting \| #014 Out of 17. How many points did Baylor win by again? I'm pretty sure it was less than 12. -- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this SuperNiceDog we on!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:610856] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: 14_and_counting \| #014Out of 17.How many points did Baylor win by again?I'm pretty sure it was less than 12. -- "So cold. I am always by your side.""There ain't no gettin' off of this SuperNiceDog we on!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 12/29/11 9:54:00 PM #17:	There is literally not ONE person he was up against who does not outscore him today. In this game, Luck throws for at least 6, maybe 7 TDs. Ball and Richardson would both torch the other team for at least 4. Hell, Ryan Mathiau (sp) would score more DEFENSIVE TD's than RG3 did tonight, against an offense worse than some Big XII teams. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:610857] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> There is literally not ONE person he was up against who does not outscore him today. In this game, Luck throws for at least 6, maybe 7 TDs.Ball and Richardson would both torch the other team for at least 4.Hell, Ryan Mathiau (sp) would score more DEFENSIVE TD's than RG3 did tonight, against an offense worse than some Big XII teams. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/29/11 9:55:00 PM #18:	Just continue to prove you have no idea what you're talking about with posts like that -- SuperNiceDog followed this simple flowchart to win the Guru! http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:610858] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> Just continue to prove you have no idea what you're talking about with posts like that -- SuperNiceDog followed this simple flowchart to win the Guru!http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 12/29/11 9:57:00 PM #19:	From: LeonhartFour \| #018 Just continue to prove you have no idea what you're talking about with posts like that So you ACTUALLY think any of the other players would have any trouble at all against a Wash defense that gave up 70 points? -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:610859] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: LeonhartFour \| #018Just continue to prove you have no idea what you're talking about with posts like thatSo you ACTUALLY think any of the other players would have any trouble at all against a Wash defense that gave up 70 points? -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 12/29/11 9:59:00 PM #20:	By the way, those other 4, have all yet to play, because they ALL made BCS bowls. They literally gave it to the only guy they could who did not bring his team the success it needed this year. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:610860] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> By the way, those other 4, have all yet to play, because they ALL made BCS bowls. They literally gave it to the only guy they could who did not bring his team the success it needed this year. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sorozone 12/29/11 9:59:00 PM #21:	From: 14_and_counting \| #017 In this game, Luck throws for at least 6, maybe 7 TDs. Vs WASH Passing: A. Luck (STAN) - 169 YDS, 2 TD -- - <cite>Sorozone posted [p:610861] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: 14_and_counting \| #017In this game, Luck throws for at least 6, maybe 7 TDs.Vs WASHPassing: A. Luck (STAN) - 169 YDS, 2 TD -- - </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/29/11 9:59:00 PM #22:	No, you misunderstand me like you misunderstand most things. From: 14_and_counting \| #017 There is literally not ONE person he was up against who does not outscore him today. In this game, Luck throws for at least 6, maybe 7 TDs. Ball and Richardson would both torch the other team for at least 4. Hell, Ryan Mathiau (sp) would score more DEFENSIVE TD's than RG3 did tonight, against an offense worse than some Big XII teams. This literally has absolutely nothing whatsoever in the world to do with whether RG3 deserved the Heisman or not or whether somebody else should have won it instead. Nor have any of the arguments you've ever presented to say why he shouldn't have won it held any water (along with the fact that some of them were just flat out not true makes me wonder if you actually watched the guy play before tonight, assuming you actually watched the game). -- SuperNiceDog http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:610862] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> No, you misunderstand me like you misunderstand most things.From: 14_and_counting \| #017There is literally not ONE person he was up against who does not outscore him today. In this game, Luck throws for at least 6, maybe 7 TDs.Ball and Richardson would both torch the other team for at least 4.Hell, Ryan Mathiau (sp) would score more DEFENSIVE TD's than RG3 did tonight, against an offense worse than some Big XII teams.This literally has absolutely nothing whatsoever in the world to do with whether RG3 deserved the Heisman or not or whether somebody else should have won it instead.Nor have any of the arguments you've ever presented to say why he shouldn't have won it held any water (along with the fact that some of them were just flat out not true makes me wonder if you actually watched the guy play before tonight, assuming you actually watched the game). -- SuperNiceDog http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/29/11 10:00:00 PM #23:	From: 14_and_counting \| #020 By the way, those other 4, have all yet to play, because they ALL made BCS bowls. They literally gave it to the only guy they could who did not bring his team the success it needed this year. Again, continue to prove you have no idea what you're talking about. -- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or SuperNiceDog. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:610863] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: 14_and_counting \| #020By the way, those other 4, have all yet to play, because they ALL made BCS bowls. They literally gave it to the only guy they could who did not bring his team the success it needed this year.Again, continue to prove you have no idea what you're talking about. -- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or SuperNiceDog. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 12/29/11 10:01:00 PM #24:	From: Sorozone \| #021 Vs WASH Passing: A. Luck (STAN) - 169 YDS, 2 TD Because that game was a 60 point shootout -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:610864] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: Sorozone \| #021Vs WASHPassing: A. Luck (STAN) - 169 YDS, 2 TDBecause that game was a 60 point shootout -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 12/29/11 10:02:00 PM #25:	You can't really tell anything about how good or bad Baylor is. Washington's defense was completely checked out. Baylor ran for 482 yards against them. RG3 didn't have to do anything. No QB would have. Every QB looks like a Heisman candidate against Washington's defense. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:610865] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> You can't really tell anything about how good or bad Baylor is. Washington's defense was completely checked out. Baylor ran for 482 yards against them. RG3 didn't have to do anything. No QB would have. Every QB looks like a Heisman candidate against Washington's defense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/29/11 10:02:00 PM #26:	From: 14_and_counting \| #024 Because that game was a 60 point shootout Why wasn't it? Luck's a much better QB playing against a crappy Pac-12 defense. Why didn't he torch them? -- SuperNiceDog bested me in the Guru, fair and square: http://i.imgur.com/fe05x.png http://i.imgur.com/stNJf.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:610866] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: 14_and_counting \| #024Because that game was a 60 point shootoutWhy wasn't it?Luck's a much better QB playing against a crappy Pac-12 defense.Why didn't he torch them? -- SuperNiceDog bested me in the Guru, fair and square: http://i.imgur.com/fe05x.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/stNJf.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 12/29/11 10:02:00 PM #27:	14_and_counting \| Posted 12/29/2011 10:01:48 PM \| message detail \| quote From: Sorozone \| #021 Vs WASH Passing: A. Luck (STAN) - 169 YDS, 2 TD Because that game was a 60 point shootout Stanford scored 65 points. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:610867] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> 14_and_counting \| Posted 12/29/2011 10:01:48 PM \| message detail \| quoteFrom: Sorozone \| #021Vs WASHPassing: A. Luck (STAN) - 169 YDS, 2 TDBecause that game was a 60 point shootoutStanford scored 65 points. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sorozone 12/29/11 10:02:00 PM #28:	From: 14_and_counting \| #024 Because that game was a 60 point shootout Doesn't matter. You are just wrong. It's ok to admit it. -- - <cite>Sorozone posted [p:610868] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: 14_and_counting \| #024Because that game was a 60 point shootoutDoesn't matter. You are just wrong. It's ok to admit it. -- - </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 12/29/11 10:02:00 PM #29:	From: LeonhartFour \| #023 Again, continue to prove you have no idea what you're talking about. Rose, Fiesta, National Championship, Alamo. One of these things is not like the other. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:610869] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: LeonhartFour \| #023Again, continue to prove you have no idea what you're talking about.Rose, Fiesta, National Championship, Alamo.One of these things is not like the other. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/29/11 10:03:00 PM #30:	From: 14_and_counting \| #029 Rose, Fiesta, National Championship, Alamo. One of these things is not like the other. When I said "Continue to prove you have no idea what you're talking about," I wasn't actually serious. Please feel free to stop making bad arguments. -- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or SuperNiceDog. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:610870] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: 14_and_counting \| #029Rose, Fiesta, National Championship, Alamo.One of these things is not like the other.When I said "Continue to prove you have no idea what you're talking about," I wasn't actually serious.Please feel free to stop making bad arguments. -- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or SuperNiceDog. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 12/29/11 10:03:00 PM #31:	From: Paratroopa1 \| #027 14_and_counting \| Posted 12/29/2011 10:01:48 PM \| message detail \| quote From: Sorozone \| #021 Vs WASH Passing: A. Luck (STAN) - 169 YDS, 2 TD Because that game was a 60 point shootout Stanford scored 65 points. I bolded the operative word there. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:610871] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: Paratroopa1 \| #02714_and_counting \| Posted 12/29/2011 10:01:48 PM \| message detail \| quoteFrom: Sorozone \| #021Vs WASHPassing: A. Luck (STAN) - 169 YDS, 2 TDBecause that game was a 60 point shootoutStanford scored 65 points.I bolded the operative word there. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/29/11 10:04:00 PM #32:	You realize Stanford scored 65+ for the same reason Baylor scored 65+, right? Had very little to do with the QB. -- "Stay with me until the end, SuperNiceDog. Please." "Not until the end. Always." <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:610872] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> You realize Stanford scored 65+ for the same reason Baylor scored 65+, right?Had very little to do with the QB. -- "Stay with me until the end, SuperNiceDog. Please.""Not until the end. Always." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 12/29/11 10:05:00 PM #33:	Stanford also rushed for over 400 yards against the Huskies (yes, the Huskies had opposing teams rush for 400 yards twice this year) so Luck again didn't have to do anything. You seriously can't tell anything about how good Luck or RG3 are just by looking at their games against Washington. There's nothing to see. They don't have to throw the ball. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:610873] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> Stanford also rushed for over 400 yards against the Huskies (yes, the Huskies had opposing teams rush for 400 yards twice this year) so Luck again didn't have to do anything. You seriously can't tell anything about how good Luck or RG3 are just by looking at their games against Washington. There's nothing to see. They don't have to throw the ball. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Menji76 12/29/11 10:05:00 PM #34:	[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] <cite>Menji76 posted [p:610874] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CherryCokes 12/29/11 10:10:00 PM #35:	I think everyone has very thoroughly illustrated why MWC is a dunce. Let's move on, shall we? -- http://alison-brie.net/galleries/3.jpg <cite>CherryCokes posted [p:610875] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> I think everyone has very thoroughly illustrated why MWC is a dunce.Let's move on, shall we? -- http://alison-brie.net/galleries/3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sorozone 12/29/11 10:11:00 PM #36:	From: Paratroopa1 \| #033 Stanford also rushed for over 400 yards against the Huskies (yes, the Huskies had opposing teams rush for 400 yards twice this year) so Luck again didn't have to do anything. You seriously can't tell anything about how good Luck or RG3 are just by looking at their games against Washington. There's nothing to see. They don't have to throw the ball. It's pretty much this. This game doesn't help or hurt RG3 or any other heisman contender. Washingtons run defense is f*ing bad. Aside from the 2 400+, they also had another team get 300+ on them, and 2 more get 200+. -- - <cite>Sorozone posted [p:610876] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: Paratroopa1 \| #033Stanford also rushed for over 400 yards against the Huskies (yes, the Huskies had opposing teams rush for 400 yards twice this year) so Luck again didn't have to do anything. You seriously can't tell anything about how good Luck or RG3 are just by looking at their games against Washington. There's nothing to see. They don't have to throw the ball.It's pretty much this. This game doesn't help or hurt RG3 or any other heisman contender. Washingtons run defense is f*ing bad.Aside from the 2 400+, they also had another team get 300+ on them, and 2 more get 200+. -- - </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 12/29/11 10:12:00 PM #37:	It's worth pointing out that Washington's pass defense is equally disasterous. Well, maybe it's not worth pointing out, but I just wanted to say it. I think their pass defense is actually worse than their run defense. They're that bad! But when you can run the ball for 400 yards, you don't need to pass. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:610877] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> It's worth pointing out that Washington's pass defense is equally disasterous. Well, maybe it's not worth pointing out, but I just wanted to say it. I think their pass defense is actually worse than their run defense. They're that bad! But when you can run the ball for 400 yards, you don't need to pass. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 12/29/11 10:21:00 PM #38:	From: LeonhartFour \| #030 When I said "Continue to prove you have no idea what you're talking about," I wasn't actually serious. Please feel free to stop making bad arguments. They don't give the MVP to players on slightly over 500 teams (not saying Baylor was) in MLB, NBA, or NFL, unless they have all time record seasons, and even then they still might not. Luck was an objectively BETTER QB, surrounded by a worse team, playing in a better conference (my respect for Big XII is nil, this ungodly scoring fest is not out of the ordinary) that led his team to a BCS Bowl playing teams like USC and Oregon. Even if you want to say they were about even, (the best you can say about RG3 would be he was even with Luck, he was certainly not significantly better stat wise) one of them actually succeeded this year with his team. The other played in the damn Alamo Bowl today. I don't want to say it is the worst since Desmond Howard, since nothing may ever top that travesty. I don't even want to say it is as bad as Charles Woodson over Peyton, because people should have been capitally punished for that one. But it at the VERY least as bad as Troy Smith winning it. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:610878] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: LeonhartFour \| #030When I said "Continue to prove you have no idea what you're talking about," I wasn't actually serious.Please feel free to stop making bad arguments.They don't give the MVP to players on slightly over 500 teams (not saying Baylor was) in MLB, NBA, or NFL, unless they have all time record seasons, and even then they still might not. Luck was an objectively BETTER QB, surrounded by a worse team, playing in a better conference (my respect for Big XII is nil, this ungodly scoring fest is not out of the ordinary) that led his team to a BCS Bowl playing teams like USC and Oregon. Even if you want to say they were about even, (the best you can say about RG3 would be he was even with Luck, he was certainly not significantly better stat wise) one of them actually succeeded this year with his team. The other played in the damn Alamo Bowl today. I don't want to say it is the worst since Desmond Howard, since nothing may ever top that travesty.I don't even want to say it is as bad as Charles Woodson over Peyton, because people should have been capitally punished for that one. But it at the VERY least as bad as Troy Smith winning it. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/29/11 10:30:00 PM #39:	Here's one of the problems. You think the Heisman is the same thing as the MVP. And Baylor accomplished things this year under RG3 that they haven't accomplished in our lifetimes, and in some cases, ever before. Saying a player has to make some sort of BCS bowl in order to win the Heisman is nonsensical and gives a very limited view of "success." But when we do this whole "Give it to the best player on the best team" crap, we end up with horrible results like Eric Crouch and Chris Weinke winning the Heisman. -- SuperNiceDog's Guru victory dance: http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:610879] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> Here's one of the problems.You think the Heisman is the same thing as the MVP.And Baylor accomplished things this year under RG3 that they haven't accomplished in our lifetimes, and in some cases, ever before. Saying a player has to make some sort of BCS bowl in order to win the Heisman is nonsensical and gives a very limited view of "success." But when we do this whole "Give it to the best player on the best team" crap, we end up with horrible results like Eric Crouch and Chris Weinke winning the Heisman. -- SuperNiceDog's Guru victory dance:http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 12/29/11 10:34:00 PM #40:	From: LeonhartFour \| #039 Here's one of the problems. You think the Heisman is the same thing as the MVP. And Baylor accomplished things this year under RG3 that they haven't accomplished in our lifetimes, and in some cases, ever before. Saying a player has to make some sort of BCS bowl in order to win the Heisman is nonsensical and gives a very limited view of "success." But when we do this whole "Give it to the best player on the best team" crap, we end up with horrible results like Eric Crouch and Chris Weinke winning the Heisman. I just said Troy Smith winning it was a joke, he was the best player on the supposed best team. It should not auto go to them. It sure as hell should be used as a tie breaker though. If you have 2 relatively even players, and one is playing in the Alamo Bowl, and the other in the Championship/Rose bowl.... It should go to the one who actually led his team somewhere. And especially in the case of Luck, who led his team farther, which worse talent, and playing better schools. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:610880] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: LeonhartFour \| #039Here's one of the problems.You think the Heisman is the same thing as the MVP.And Baylor accomplished things this year under RG3 that they haven't accomplished in our lifetimes, and in some cases, ever before. Saying a player has to make some sort of BCS bowl in order to win the Heisman is nonsensical and gives a very limited view of "success." But when we do this whole "Give it to the best player on the best team" crap, we end up with horrible results like Eric Crouch and Chris Weinke winning the Heisman.I just said Troy Smith winning it was a joke, he was the best player on the supposed best team. It should not auto go to them. It sure as hell should be used as a tie breaker though. If you have 2 relatively even players, and one is playing in the Alamo Bowl, and the other in the Championship/Rose bowl.... It should go to the one who actually led his team somewhere. And especially in the case of Luck, who led his team farther, which worse talent, and playing better schools. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 12/29/11 10:51:00 PM #41:	RG3 deservedly won the Heisman. MWC is just mad because he's 100x more likeable than him and about a million times more successful. Or it could be the other way around, cause MWC is a pretty horrible human being. RG3 asks MWC how his ass tastes. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:610881] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> RG3 deservedly won the Heisman. MWC is just mad because he's 100x more likeable than him and about a million times more successful.Or it could be the other way around, cause MWC is a pretty horrible human being.RG3 asks MWC how his ass tastes. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 12/29/11 10:53:00 PM #42:	Also, MWC literally believed that Felix Hernandez shouldn't have won the AL Cy Young because CC Sabathia had more wins. MWC clings the wins argument so badly even Skip Bayless is like "Whoa there, dude, let's not go that far." -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:610882] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> Also, MWC literally believed that Felix Hernandez shouldn't have won the AL Cy Young because CC Sabathia had more wins. MWC clings the wins argument so badly even Skip Bayless is like "Whoa there, dude, let's not go that far." -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 12/29/11 10:57:00 PM #43:	From: TheRock1525 \| #042 Also, MWC literally believed that Felix Hernandez shouldn't have won the AL Cy Young because CC Sabathia had more wins. MWC clings the wins argument so badly even Skip Bayless is like "Whoa there, dude, let's not go that far." If Felix had won about the same number sure. Felix was a .500 pitcher, and should not have received a single vote (I don't know if the ballot goes 3, 5, or 10 deep, it is irrelevant though, because he should not have got any of them). Felix failed in the only thing he is there to do, win games. Verlandeer this year was outstanding, he won, he won alot, he always won after his team lost. He carried his team. Felix had no business getting close to the award, let alone winning it. ** every sabre nerd on Earth. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:610883] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: TheRock1525 \| #042Also, MWC literally believed that Felix Hernandez shouldn't have won the AL Cy Young because CC Sabathia had more wins. MWC clings the wins argument so badly even Skip Bayless is like "Whoa there, dude, let's not go that far."If Felix had won about the same number sure. Felix was a .500 pitcher, and should not have received a single vote (I don't know if the ballot goes 3, 5, or 10 deep, it is irrelevant though, because he should not have got any of them). Felix failed in the only thing he is there to do, win games. Verlandeer this year was outstanding, he won, he won alot, he always won after his team lost. He carried his team. Felix had no business getting close to the award, let alone winning it.** every sabre nerd on Earth. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Highwind89 12/29/11 10:59:00 PM #44:	Does MWC think that Luck should have won the heisman? He shouldn't have even made the finalists over Barkley and Moore. Also, RGIII absolutely deserved to win the heisman. Only one else who has an argument is Ball. <cite>Highwind89 posted [p:610884] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> Does MWC think that Luck should have won the heisman? He shouldn't have even made the finalists over Barkley and Moore. Also, RGIII absolutely deserved to win the heisman. Only one else who has an argument is Ball. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
14_and_counting 12/29/11 11:02:00 PM #45:	From: Highwind89 \| #044 Does MWC think that Luck should have won the heisman? He shouldn't have even made the finalists over Barkley and Moore. Also, RGIII absolutely deserved to win the heisman. Only one else who has an argument is Ball. Tyrann Mathieu. The Honey Badger. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>14_and_counting posted [p:610885] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: Highwind89 \| #044Does MWC think that Luck should have won the heisman? He shouldn't have even made the finalists over Barkley and Moore. Also, RGIII absolutely deserved to win the heisman. Only one else who has an argument is Ball.Tyrann Mathieu. The Honey Badger. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rad Link 5 12/29/11 11:06:00 PM #46:	I didn't see the game, but this topic is hilarious. From: TheRock1525 \| #042 Also, MWC literally believed that Felix Hernandez shouldn't have won the AL Cy Young because CC Sabathia had more wins. MWC clings the wins argument so badly even Skip Bayless is like "Whoa there, dude, let's not go that far." Ahahaha. I'd pay money to see a sports talk show hosted by Skip Bayless and MWC. It'd have to be on Comedy Central, though. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' Police I assure you, my dear, all Ace Detectives are perfect gentlemen! <cite>Rad Link 5 posted [p:610886] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> I didn't see the game, but this topic is hilarious.From: TheRock1525 \| #042Also, MWC literally believed that Felix Hernandez shouldn't have won the AL Cy Young because CC Sabathia had more wins. MWC clings the wins argument so badly even Skip Bayless is like "Whoa there, dude, let's not go that far."Ahahaha. I'd pay money to see a sports talk show hosted by Skip Bayless and MWC. It'd have to be on Comedy Central, though. -- Ace Detective in Sir Chris' PoliceI assure you, my dear, all Ace Detectives are perfect gentlemen! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WalrusJump 12/30/11 1:44:00 AM #47:	no player this year meant more to his team than RG3. Mathieu may not have even been the best player at his position on his team. as for felix: ERA is probably the best stat to use for him. he let in fewer runs than anyone else per nine innings in 2010, so he was the best pitcher that year. felix doesn't control how bad his offense is. both these players made up for mediocre supporting casts. how do you fail to realize this time after time? LeBron is the same way. No one else could have carried the rest of the 2007 Cavs to the nba finals. -- SuperNiceDog shoots the lights out <cite>WalrusJump posted [p:610887] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> no player this year meant more to his team than RG3. Mathieu may not have even been the best player at his position on his team. as for felix: ERA is probably the best stat to use for him. he let in fewer runs than anyone else per nine innings in 2010, so he was the best pitcher that year. felix doesn't control how bad his offense is. both these players made up for mediocre supporting casts. how do you fail to realize this time after time? LeBron is the same way. No one else could have carried the rest of the 2007 Cavs to the nba finals. -- SuperNiceDog shoots the lights out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 12/30/11 1:45:00 AM #48:	From: WalrusJump \| #047 both these players made up for mediocre supporting casts. how do you fail to realize this time after time? Because if you aren't winning championships, then you shouldn't be winning individual awards. -- SuperNiceDog followed this simple flowchart to win the Guru! http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:610888] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> From: WalrusJump \| #047both these players made up for mediocre supporting casts. how do you fail to realize this time after time?Because if you aren't winning championships, then you shouldn't be winning individual awards. -- SuperNiceDog followed this simple flowchart to win the Guru!http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/8718/leonflowchart.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheRock1525 12/30/11 2:55:00 AM #49:	If Felix had won about the same number sure. Felix was a .500 pitcher, and should not have received a single vote (I don't know if the ballot goes 3, 5, or 10 deep, it is irrelevant though, because he should not have got any of them). Felix failed in the only thing he is there to do, win games. Verlandeer this year was outstanding, he won, he won alot, he always won after his team lost. He carried his team. Felix had no business getting close to the award, let alone winning it. This is what MWC actually believes. Like, honest to goodness, he thinks this is logical thinking. In 2010, Felix Hernandez had THE LOWEST RUN SUPPORT IN THE ENTIRE GOD DAMN LEAGUE. Give CC that type of run support in 2010 and he finishes below .500, genius. Like, if you just admit "Hey, it's all just an act. I'm not this sports illiterate" then we'll all have a good laugh, maybe share a beer or something down the road. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. <cite>TheRock1525 posted [p:610889] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> If Felix had won about the same number sure. Felix was a .500 pitcher, and should not have received a single vote (I don't know if the ballot goes 3, 5, or 10 deep, it is irrelevant though, because he should not have got any of them). Felix failed in the only thing he is there to do, win games. Verlandeer this year was outstanding, he won, he won alot, he always won after his team lost. He carried his team. Felix had no business getting close to the award, let alone winning it.This is what MWC actually believes. Like, honest to goodness, he thinks this is logical thinking.In 2010, Felix Hernandez had THE LOWEST RUN SUPPORT IN THE ENTIRE GOD DAMN LEAGUE. Give CC that type of run support in 2010 and he finishes below .500, genius.Like, if you just admit "Hey, it's all just an act. I'm not this sports illiterate" then we'll all have a good laugh, maybe share a beer or something down the road. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 12/30/11 3:11:00 AM #50:	In the year that Felix Hernandez won the Cy Young, the Mariners had literally the worst offense in the modern era of baseball. There was nothing he could do. On multiple occasions, the offense did not score a run while he was on the mound. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:610890] in This was t... [t:61504036]...</cite> <quote> In the year that Felix Hernandez won the Cy Young, the Mariners had literally the worst offense in the modern era of baseball. There was nothing he could do. On multiple occasions, the offense did not score a run while he was on the mound. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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