Board 8 > So FFT's ending (obviously there are spoilers here)

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Anagram 01/08/12 4:23:00 PM #1:	When Ramza appears after it's been established that that's impossible, is uh Is he actually there? Or is it a ghost? Or a hallucination or what? -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:643825] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> When Ramza appears after it's been established that that's impossible, is uhIs he actually there? Or is it a ghost? Or a hallucination or what? -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 01/08/12 4:25:00 PM #2:	From: Anagram \| #001 When Ramza appears after it's been established that that's impossible, is uh Is he actually there? Or is it a ghost? Or a hallucination or what? Up to speculation, but I think it's the Zodiac stones. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:643826] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> From: Anagram \| #001When Ramza appears after it's been established that that's impossible, is uhIs he actually there? Or is it a ghost? Or a hallucination or what?Up to speculation, but I think it's the Zodiac stones. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MalcolmMasher 01/08/12 4:26:00 PM #3:	There's no consensus. My own perspective is that Ramza is alive, because I think it's more likely that the game pulls a fake-out death followed by a "they're really alive" than for it to kill them and then fake them being alive. (How are they still alive? Zodiac Stones, presumably.) -- I don't like this duchy. Now, it's an adventurer. <cite>MalcolmMasher posted [p:643827] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> There's no consensus. My own perspective is that Ramza is alive, because I think it's more likely that the game pulls a fake-out death followed by a "they're really alive" than for it to kill them and then fake them being alive. (How are they still alive? Zodiac Stones, presumably.) -- I don't like this duchy. Now, it's an adventurer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/08/12 4:28:00 PM #4:	is it ghosts or vampires who can't see their own reflections? this is important to answering the question <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:643828] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> is it ghosts or vampires who can't see their own reflections?this is important to answering the question </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 01/08/12 4:29:00 PM #5:	From: OmarsComin \| #004 is it ghosts or vampires who can't see their own reflections? this is important to answering the question Vampires. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:643829] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> From: OmarsComin \| #004is it ghosts or vampires who can't see their own reflections?this is important to answering the questionVampires. -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/08/12 4:30:00 PM #6:	then he clearly is not a vampire wait can chocobos have souls/ghosts? this is important as well. <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:643830] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> then he clearly is not a vampirewait can chocobos have souls/ghosts? this is important as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 01/08/12 4:32:00 PM #7:	Well, they can crystallize, so...probably? -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:643831] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> Well, they can crystallize, so...probably? -- Sburbopolis, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60981373 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/08/12 4:34:00 PM #8:	then it is clear to me that Ramza, Alma, and the Chocobo are all ghosts I am glad we have solved this <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:643832] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> then it is clear to me that Ramza, Alma, and the Chocobo are all ghostsI am glad we have solved this </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 01/08/12 6:36:00 PM #9:	Got it, no real answer. Thanks guys. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:643833] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> Got it, no real answer. Thanks guys. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LowCalorieH2O 01/08/12 6:47:00 PM #10:	They always talk about how the Zodiac Stones perform miracles. -- http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa62/angelamatherly62/diet-water.jpg http://crossroadscharlotte.com/media/blog/706.jpg <cite>LowCalorieH2O posted [p:643834] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> They always talk about how the Zodiac Stones perform miracles. -- http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa62/angelamatherly62/diet-water.jpghttp://crossroadscharlotte.com/media/blog/706.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 01/08/12 6:48:00 PM #11:	I dunno. It always strikes me as strange that Ramza would just disappear without a trace, never to be seen again. Doesn't seem like his style. -- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:643835] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> I dunno. It always strikes me as strange that Ramza would just disappear without a trace, never to be seen again. Doesn't seem like his style. -- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.pnghttp://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 01/08/12 6:50:00 PM #12:	They're either alive, or Ramza and Alma were ghosts riding around on ghost chocobos that felt the need to go drink from a river and drop ghost feathers into it -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:643836] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> They're either alive, or Ramza and Alma were ghosts riding around on ghost chocobos that felt the need to go drink from a river and drop ghost feathers into it -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/08/12 6:51:00 PM #13:	"I didn't think the God made holy stones but...more evil... Well... Lucavi made them to land in this world..." "I guess it means whoever uses it will have to deal with the 'problem'..." <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:643837] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> "I didn't think the God made holy stones but...more evil... Well... Lucavi made them to land in this world..." "I guess it means whoever uses it will have to deal with the 'problem'..." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 01/08/12 6:51:00 PM #14:	From: DeathChicken \| #012 They're either alive, or Ramza and Alma were ghosts riding around on ghost chocobos that felt the need to go drink from a river and drop ghost feathers into it Not sure what the problem is! Ghosts in FFT obviously have physical forms! -- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:643838] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> From: DeathChicken \| #012They're either alive, or Ramza and Alma were ghosts riding around on ghost chocobos that felt the need to go drink from a river and drop ghost feathers into itNot sure what the problem is! Ghosts in FFT obviously have physical forms! -- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/08/12 6:51:00 PM #15:	They're either alive, or Ramza and Alma were ghosts riding around on ghost chocobos that felt the need to go drink from a river and drop ghost feathers into it it's the second one <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:643839] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> They're either alive, or Ramza and Alma were ghosts riding around on ghost chocobos that felt the need to go drink from a river and drop ghost feathers into itit's the second one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MalcolmMasher 01/08/12 6:56:00 PM #16:	I dunno. It always strikes me as strange that Ramza would just disappear without a trace, never to be seen again. Doesn't seem like his style. It seems to me like what he tried to do after Chapter 1. -- I don't like this duchy. Now, it's an adventurer. <cite>MalcolmMasher posted [p:643840] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> I dunno. It always strikes me as strange that Ramza would just disappear without a trace, never to be seen again. Doesn't seem like his style.It seems to me like what he tried to do after Chapter 1. -- I don't like this duchy. Now, it's an adventurer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/08/12 6:57:00 PM #17:	when it came down to it, I dropped it all and rode ghost chocobos <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:643841] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> when it came down to it, I dropped it all and rode ghost chocobos </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BIGPUN9999 01/08/12 6:57:00 PM #18:	*Anagram posted...* Got it, no real answer. Thanks guys. Now you know why people hated ffta Among many many other things -- Married to my Sugar mama, CrimsonOcean. Oct. 10, 2007 http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4020/bigpunry4.jpg ~by Seginustemple <cite>BIGPUN9999 posted [p:643842] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> Anagram posted...Got it, no real answer. Thanks guys.Now you know why people hated fftaAmong many many other things -- Married to my Sugar mama, CrimsonOcean. Oct. 10, 2007http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4020/bigpunry4.jpg ~by Seginustemple </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 01/08/12 7:09:00 PM #19:	From: MalcolmMasher \| #016 I dunno. It always strikes me as strange that Ramza would just disappear without a trace, never to be seen again. Doesn't seem like his style. It seems to me like what he tried to do after Chapter 1. Yes, because Chapter 1 Ramza and Chapter 4 Ramza are exactly the same in every way. -- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:643843] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> From: MalcolmMasher \| #016I dunno. It always strikes me as strange that Ramza would just disappear without a trace, never to be seen again. Doesn't seem like his style.It seems to me like what he tried to do after Chapter 1.Yes, because Chapter 1 Ramza and Chapter 4 Ramza are exactly the same in every way. -- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?""I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingBartz 01/08/12 7:31:00 PM #20:	From: OmarsComin \| #013 "I didn't think the God made holy stones but...more evil... Well... Lucavi made them to land in this world..." Best quote of the whole damn game. -- SuperNiceDog? More like GuruNiceDog. <cite>KingBartz posted [p:643844] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> From: OmarsComin \| #013"I didn't think the God made holy stones but...more evil... Well... Lucavi made them to land in this world..."Best quote of the whole damn game. -- SuperNiceDog? More like GuruNiceDog. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MalcolmMasher 01/08/12 7:35:00 PM #21:	My word, how could I fail to see that Ch1 Ramza and Ch4 Ramza are completely different people! I suppose the sprite should have been a dead giveaway, really. Or maybe they're the same guy at different times, and we can reasonably expect them to have some things in common. -- I don't like this duchy. Now, it's an adventurer. <cite>MalcolmMasher posted [p:643845] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> My word, how could I fail to see that Ch1 Ramza and Ch4 Ramza are completely different people! I suppose the sprite should have been a dead giveaway, really. Or maybe they're the same guy at different times, and we can reasonably expect them to have some things in common. -- I don't like this duchy. Now, it's an adventurer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/08/12 7:37:00 PM #22:	Ch1 Ramza would never wear those pants TBQH <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:643846] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> Ch1 Ramza would never wear those pants TBQH </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 01/08/12 10:40:00 PM #23:	From: MalcolmMasher \| #021 Or maybe they're the same guy at different times, and we can reasonably expect them to have some things in common. Of course it's reasonable to have them expect them to have some things in common. You know, except for the stuff where Ramza clearly develops and progresses as a character, like learning to face trials and responsibilities head on instead of running away when things got too hard. No big deal. -- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:643847] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> From: MalcolmMasher \| #021Or maybe they're the same guy at different times, and we can reasonably expect them to have some things in common.Of course it's reasonable to have them expect them to have some things in common.You know, except for the stuff where Ramza clearly develops and progresses as a character, like learning to face trials and responsibilities head on instead of running away when things got too hard.No big deal. -- "So cold. I am always by your side.""There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IngmarBirdman 01/08/12 11:28:00 PM #24:	I'm pretty sure Ramza's dead and you're seeing him in some sort of afterlife with Alma. He and Delita are the ones who declared their principles - that they would try to do the right thing without exploiting or sacrificing other people for the cause. Ramza upholds his vow when he goes after Alma and rescues her from the Lucavi, even though they are both killed. Delita has a relationship with Ovelia but by comparison throws it away. He makes promises to her at that temple that he fails to keep, instead choosing to use other people on his way to becoming king, and she recognizes his hypocrisy during the epilogue. There he wonders what Ramza got out of the bargain. Seeing them after the funeral, it is shown that Ramza's family lineage is broken and his deeds are forgotten by history, but he is content because he upheld the principles he set forth for himself. -- Parachute? Moar liek pair-a-somethin' else amirite SuperNiceDogTanuki, Pom Poko <cite>IngmarBirdman posted [p:643848] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> I'm pretty sure Ramza's dead and you're seeing him in some sort of afterlife with Alma. He and Delita are the ones who declared their principles - that they would try to do the right thing without exploiting or sacrificing other people for the cause. Ramza upholds his vow when he goes after Alma and rescues her from the Lucavi, even though they are both killed. Delita has a relationship with Ovelia but by comparison throws it away. He makes promises to her at that temple that he fails to keep, instead choosing to use other people on his way to becoming king, and she recognizes his hypocrisy during the epilogue. There he wonders what Ramza got out of the bargain. Seeing them after the funeral, it is shown that Ramza's family lineage is broken and his deeds are forgotten by history, but he is content because he upheld the principles he set forth for himself. -- Parachute? Moar liek pair-a-somethin' else amiriteSuperNiceDogTanuki, Pom Poko </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/08/12 11:32:00 PM #25:	also we see Ramza blow it up in a giant explosion so there's that too <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:643849] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> also we see Ramza blow it up in a giant explosion so there's that too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MalcolmMasher 01/09/12 12:26:00 AM #26:	You know, except for the stuff where Ramza clearly develops and progresses as a character, like learning to face trials and responsibilities head on Yes, he really does a good job in Chapter 4 of living up to the duty that his noble status requires of him. Except not. Family is important to Ramza, but he doesn't care about the duties of his station, and we see that back in Ch1. So what is there to keep him in Ivalice? Lategame Ramza clearly looks out for his sister as a top priority, and other people in general as a strictly secondary concern. Consider what he does and doesn't do with the Germonik Scriptures. At the end of the game, if he and Alma are alive, then they have just barely escaped being killed by the Lucavi through a holy miracle, plot hole or what have you. It is entirely in character for Ramza to say "I'm going to protect Alma, the rest of the world can go hang". He's already done it more than once. -- I don't like this duchy. Now, it's an adventurer. <cite>MalcolmMasher posted [p:643850] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> You know, except for the stuff where Ramza clearly develops and progresses as a character, like learning to face trials and responsibilities head onYes, he really does a good job in Chapter 4 of living up to the duty that his noble status requires of him. Except not. Family is important to Ramza, but he doesn't care about the duties of his station, and we see that back in Ch1. So what is there to keep him in Ivalice? Lategame Ramza clearly looks out for his sister as a top priority, and other people in general as a strictly secondary concern. Consider what he does and doesn't do with the Germonik Scriptures. At the end of the game, if he and Alma are alive, then they have just barely escaped being killed by the Lucavi through a holy miracle, plot hole or what have you. It is entirely in character for Ramza to say "I'm going to protect Alma, the rest of the world can go hang". He's already done it more than once. -- I don't like this duchy. Now, it's an adventurer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/09/12 12:31:00 AM #27:	perhaps we can discuss who stabs who first next blow up Ovelia's sprite and see if she's holding a knife <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:643851] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> perhaps we can discuss who stabs who first nextblow up Ovelia's sprite and see if she's holding a knife </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MalcolmMasher 01/09/12 12:33:00 AM #28:	If I remember correctly, War of the Lions added a scene where Agrias gives Ovelia a knife. So the circumstantial evidence supports Ovelia Stabbed First. -- I don't like this duchy. Now, it's an adventurer. <cite>MalcolmMasher posted [p:643852] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> If I remember correctly, War of the Lions added a scene where Agrias gives Ovelia a knife. So the circumstantial evidence supports Ovelia Stabbed First. -- I don't like this duchy. Now, it's an adventurer. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/09/12 12:38:00 AM #29:	oh that's lame I liked it better when we had no idea <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:643853] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> oh that's lameI liked it better when we had no idea </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 01/09/12 12:39:00 AM #30:	*MalcolmMasher posted...* You know, except for the stuff where Ramza clearly develops and progresses as a character, like learning to face trials and responsibilities head on Yes, he really does a good job in Chapter 4 of living up to the duty that his noble status requires of him. Except not. Family is important to Ramza, but he doesn't care about the duties of his station, and we see that back in Ch1. So what is there to keep him in Ivalice? Lategame Ramza clearly looks out for his sister as a top priority, and other people in general as a strictly secondary concern. Consider what he does and doesn't do with the Germonik Scriptures. At the end of the game, if he and Alma are alive, then they have just barely escaped being killed by the Lucavi through a holy miracle, plot hole or what have you. It is entirely in character for Ramza to say "I'm going to protect Alma, the rest of the world can go hang". He's already done it more than once. He's not quite as much a one track character as you're making him out to be. He also has a major goal of stopping the war. Remember, at the start of Ch 4 he believes that Alma is being held in Limberry. After going to Zeltennia and meeting Delita, he has a perfect opportunity to continue straight on to Limberry and rescue Alma. But instead he backtracks all the way to Bethla because he's handed what he thinks is a big opportunity to stop the war. That said, I agree that if he were alive at the end of the game he would have no problem dropping out of the picture for good. He's accomplished all of his goals. Alma is rescued, the evils behind the Zodiac stones are defeated, and Ivalice is at peace. His brothers and his former liege are dead. There's nothing left to tie him to Ivalice. It makes perfect sense for him to take Alma and get the hell out of Dodge. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch <cite>redrocket posted [p:643854] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> MalcolmMasher posted...You know, except for the stuff where Ramza clearly develops and progresses as a character, like learning to face trials and responsibilities head onYes, he really does a good job in Chapter 4 of living up to the duty that his noble status requires of him. Except not. Family is important to Ramza, but he doesn't care about the duties of his station, and we see that back in Ch1. So what is there to keep him in Ivalice? Lategame Ramza clearly looks out for his sister as a top priority, and other people in general as a strictly secondary concern. Consider what he does and doesn't do with the Germonik Scriptures. At the end of the game, if he and Alma are alive, then they have just barely escaped being killed by the Lucavi through a holy miracle, plot hole or what have you. It is entirely in character for Ramza to say "I'm going to protect Alma, the rest of the world can go hang". He's already done it more than once.He's not quite as much a one track character as you're making him out to be. He also has a major goal of stopping the war. Remember, at the start of Ch 4 he believes that Alma is being held in Limberry. After going to Zeltennia and meeting Delita, he has a perfect opportunity to continue straight on to Limberry and rescue Alma. But instead he backtracks all the way to Bethla because he's handed what he thinks is a big opportunity to stop the war. That said, I agree that if he were alive at the end of the game he would have no problem dropping out of the picture for good. He's accomplished all of his goals. Alma is rescued, the evils behind the Zodiac stones are defeated, and Ivalice is at peace. His brothers and his former liege are dead. There's nothing left to tie him to Ivalice. It makes perfect sense for him to take Alma and get the hell out of Dodge. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RevolverSaro 01/09/12 1:58:00 AM #31:	Can't the Zodiac stones like...revive people? -- "Don't freeze up girl, you're looking quite a sight." - Adam Ant. "Baby, can you dig your man? He's a righteous man." - Larry Underwood <cite>RevolverSaro posted [p:643855] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> Can't the Zodiac stones like...revive people? -- "Don't freeze up girl, you're looking quite a sight." - Adam Ant."Baby, can you dig your man? He's a righteous man." - Larry Underwood </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 01/09/12 11:55:00 AM #32:	From: RevolverSaro \| #031 Can't the Zodiac stones like...revive people? Who's going to use the power of the Zodiac Stones to revive Ramza and Alma if everyone's dead? From: MalcolmMasher \| #026 Yes, he really does a good job in Chapter 4 of living up to the duty that his noble status requires of him. Considering he was the one responsible for ending the war, yes, he did. -- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:643856] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> From: RevolverSaro \| #031Can't the Zodiac stones like...revive people?Who's going to use the power of the Zodiac Stones to revive Ramza and Alma if everyone's dead?From: MalcolmMasher \| #026Yes, he really does a good job in Chapter 4 of living up to the duty that his noble status requires of him.Considering he was the one responsible for ending the war, yes, he did. -- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 01/09/12 12:47:00 PM #33:	More or less accidentally. He killed Dycedarg because Dycedarg turned into a giant goat and tried to kill him first, Dycedarg had already killed Larg, and on the other side of the war, Delita killed Goltana. That was basically it for the war -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:643857] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> More or less accidentally. He killed Dycedarg because Dycedarg turned into a giant goat and tried to kill him first, Dycedarg had already killed Larg, and on the other side of the war, Delita killed Goltana. That was basically it for the war -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 01/09/12 12:48:00 PM #34:	And Rofel killing Funeral, who was instigating both sides -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:643858] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> And Rofel killing Funeral, who was instigating both sides -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 01/09/12 2:10:00 PM #35:	Man, way to massively underplay Ramza's role in the whole thing. -- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:643859] in So FFT'... [t:61599512]...</cite> <quote> Man, way to massively underplay Ramza's role in the whole thing. -- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.pnghttp://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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