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Uglyface2 01/13/12 3:17:00 PM #101:	*LordoftheMorons posted...* I'm aware that Britain was the one with the power to draw the lines dividing up the Middle East. That doesn't mean they had the right to give up a chunk of the land to whoever they pleased. I hate to be so callous, but yes it was. It was spoils of war from the fall of the Ottomans. <cite>Uglyface2 posted [p:658096] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> LordoftheMorons posted...I'm aware that Britain was the one with the power to draw the lines dividing up the Middle East. That doesn't mean they had the right to give up a chunk of the land to whoever they pleased.I hate to be so callous, but yes it was. It was spoils of war from the fall of the Ottomans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 01/13/12 3:18:00 PM #102:	*Uglyface2 posted...* redrocket posted... Post WWII, Britain allowed some Zionists part of the land now known as Israel. "Allowed them some land" that's an interesting way of saying forcibly evicting the people living there so that the Zionists could settle there and then continue to use force against the former inhabitants. There's not a square foot of inhabited soil on this planet that wasn't taken from one group for use by another. The British controlled the area from their WWI mandate. It was theirs to administrate as they pleased. If they'd turned the entire region into a maggot farm, that would have been their prerogative. Is it nice for the losers? No. But what would you prefer, an unregulated tribal area (which is what Palestine basically was at the time)? Literally using the might makes right argument. By that logic the Palestinians have the natural right to fight back by any means necessary to defend their homeland. And it has jack all to do with the US so we should stay the hell out of it. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch <cite>redrocket posted [p:658097] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> Uglyface2 posted...redrocket posted...Post WWII, Britain allowed some Zionists part of the land now known as Israel. "Allowed them some land" that's an interesting way of saying forcibly evicting the people living there so that the Zionists could settle there and then continue to use force against the former inhabitants.There's not a square foot of inhabited soil on this planet that wasn't taken from one group for use by another. The British controlled the area from their WWI mandate. It was theirs to administrate as they pleased. If they'd turned the entire region into a maggot farm, that would have been their prerogative. Is it nice for the losers? No. But what would you prefer, an unregulated tribal area (which is what Palestine basically was at the time)?Literally using the might makes right argument. By that logic the Palestinians have the natural right to fight back by any means necessary to defend their homeland. And it has jack all to do with the US so we should stay the hell out of it. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 01/13/12 3:21:00 PM #103:	I don't agree with everything Ron Paul stands for. That is also true of every other presidential candidate. I know what I disagree with from Ron Paul. That is not true of any other presidential candidate. this answers topic title perfectly. -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:658098] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> I don't agree with everything Ron Paul stands for. That is also true of every other presidential candidate.I know what I disagree with from Ron Paul. That is not true of any other presidential candidate.this answers topic title perfectly. -- The King Wang.Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Uglyface2 01/13/12 3:21:00 PM #104:	*redrocket posted...* Literally using the might makes right argument. By that logic the Palestinians have the natural right to fight back by any means necessary to defend their homeland. And it has jack all to do with the US so we should stay the hell out of it. The US has a vested interest in keeping Israel on the map. They are our allies in an otherwise hostile region. Unless you'd like to see the region overrun by forces hostile to the US... <cite>Uglyface2 posted [p:658099] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> redrocket posted...Literally using the might makes right argument. By that logic the Palestinians have the natural right to fight back by any means necessary to defend their homeland. And it has jack all to do with the US so we should stay the hell out of it.The US has a vested interest in keeping Israel on the map. They are our allies in an otherwise hostile region. Unless you'd like to see the region overrun by forces hostile to the US... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 01/13/12 3:25:00 PM #105:	*Uglyface2 posted...* redrocket posted... Literally using the might makes right argument. By that logic the Palestinians have the natural right to fight back by any means necessary to defend their homeland. And it has jack all to do with the US so we should stay the hell out of it. The US has a vested interest in keeping Israel on the map. They are our allies in an otherwise hostile region. Unless you'd like to see the region overrun by forces hostile to the US... I don't give a damn who overruns the middle east because they are separated from the US by a vast ocean. Also, the one and only reason anyone over there is hostile to the US is because we support Israel. Take away that support and they stop giving a damn and return to squabbling amongst themselves as they have for centuries. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch <cite>redrocket posted [p:658100] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> Uglyface2 posted...redrocket posted...Literally using the might makes right argument. By that logic the Palestinians have the natural right to fight back by any means necessary to defend their homeland. And it has jack all to do with the US so we should stay the hell out of it.The US has a vested interest in keeping Israel on the map. They are our allies in an otherwise hostile region. Unless you'd like to see the region overrun by forces hostile to the US...I don't give a damn who overruns the middle east because they are separated from the US by a vast ocean. Also, the one and only reason anyone over there is hostile to the US is because we support Israel. Take away that support and they stop giving a damn and return to squabbling amongst themselves as they have for centuries. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Uglyface2 01/13/12 3:29:00 PM #106:	*redrocket posted...* I don't give a damn who overruns the middle east because they are separated from the US by a vast ocean. Also, the one and only reason anyone over there is hostile to the US is because we support Israel. Take away that support and they stop giving a damn and return to squabbling amongst themselves as they have for centuries. And you think I'm callous for saying Britain had the right to give the Zionists a piece of land? You're really willing to let people die in the inevitable war just so you can have that sweet, sweet 19th century isolationist policy? <cite>Uglyface2 posted [p:658101] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> redrocket posted...I don't give a damn who overruns the middle east because they are separated from the US by a vast ocean. Also, the one and only reason anyone over there is hostile to the US is because we support Israel. Take away that support and they stop giving a damn and return to squabbling amongst themselves as they have for centuries.And you think I'm callous for saying Britain had the right to give the Zionists a piece of land? You're really willing to let people die in the inevitable war just so you can have that sweet, sweet 19th century isolationist policy? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 01/13/12 3:31:00 PM #107:	From: Uglyface2 \| #106 *redrocket posted...* I don't give a damn who overruns the middle east because they are separated from the US by a vast ocean. Also, the one and only reason anyone over there is hostile to the US is because we support Israel. Take away that support and they stop giving a damn and return to squabbling amongst themselves as they have for centuries. And you think I'm callous for saying Britain had the right to give the Zionists a piece of land? You're really willing to let people die in the inevitable war just so you can have that sweet, sweet 19th century isolationist policy? If we attack Iran then people will die in an inevitable war anyway. Only difference is if we back out then none of the lives lost will be American -- My Japanese alter-ego. Hey all this is Bartz btw. <cite>KingButz posted [p:658102] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> From: Uglyface2 \| #106redrocket posted...I don't give a damn who overruns the middle east because they are separated from the US by a vast ocean. Also, the one and only reason anyone over there is hostile to the US is because we support Israel. Take away that support and they stop giving a damn and return to squabbling amongst themselves as they have for centuries.And you think I'm callous for saying Britain had the right to give the Zionists a piece of land? You're really willing to let people die in the inevitable war just so you can have that sweet, sweet 19th century isolationist policy?If we attack Iran then people will die in an inevitable war anyway. Only difference is if we back out then none of the lives lost will be American -- My Japanese alter-ego.Hey all this is Bartz btw. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 01/13/12 3:35:00 PM #108:	*Uglyface2 posted...* redrocket posted... I don't give a damn who overruns the middle east because they are separated from the US by a vast ocean. Also, the one and only reason anyone over there is hostile to the US is because we support Israel. Take away that support and they stop giving a damn and return to squabbling amongst themselves as they have for centuries. And you think I'm callous for saying Britain had the right to give the Zionists a piece of land? You're really willing to let people die in the inevitable war just so you can have that sweet, sweet 19th century isolationist policy? Wars happen. We can't be the damn world police and stop every war all over the f**** globe. Where is your compassion for the millions that are getting slaughtered by brutal dictators in Africa? Why aren't you calling for us to intervene there? If war in the middle east happens it will be because of Britain's short sighted idea to give away that land in the first place. Blame them. Are you really saying that because Britain made a stupid move, it's our responsibility to hold the hands of their creation, forever? -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch <cite>redrocket posted [p:658103] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> Uglyface2 posted...redrocket posted...I don't give a damn who overruns the middle east because they are separated from the US by a vast ocean. Also, the one and only reason anyone over there is hostile to the US is because we support Israel. Take away that support and they stop giving a damn and return to squabbling amongst themselves as they have for centuries.And you think I'm callous for saying Britain had the right to give the Zionists a piece of land? You're really willing to let people die in the inevitable war just so you can have that sweet, sweet 19th century isolationist policy?Wars happen. We can't be the damn world police and stop every war all over the f**** globe. Where is your compassion for the millions that are getting slaughtered by brutal dictators in Africa? Why aren't you calling for us to intervene there? If war in the middle east happens it will be because of Britain's short sighted idea to give away that land in the first place. Blame them. Are you really saying that because Britain made a stupid move, it's our responsibility to hold the hands of their creation, forever? -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yoshifan823 01/13/12 3:36:00 PM #109:	*1941 redrocket posted...* I don't give a damn who overruns the europe because they are separated from the US by a vast ocean. Also, the one and only reason anyone over there is hostile to the US is because we support Jews. Take away that support and they stop giving a damn and return to squabbling amongst themselves as they have for centuries. And then Hitler happened. <cite>yoshifan823 posted [p:658104] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> 1941 redrocket posted...I don't give a damn who overruns the europe because they are separated from the US by a vast ocean. Also, the one and only reason anyone over there is hostile to the US is because we support Jews. Take away that support and they stop giving a damn and return to squabbling amongst themselves as they have for centuries.And then Hitler happened. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/13/12 3:36:00 PM #110:	We support Israel because they are an arm of US policy in that region. It's not like we're supporting Israel for some altruistic reason or because God said we should. <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:658105] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> We support Israel because they are an arm of US policy in that region. It's not like we're supporting Israel for some altruistic reason or because God said we should. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 01/13/12 3:37:00 PM #111:	*yoshifan823 posted...* 1941 redrocket posted... I don't give a damn who overruns the europe because they are separated from the US by a vast ocean. Also, the one and only reason anyone over there is hostile to the US is because we support Jews. Take away that support and they stop giving a damn and return to squabbling amongst themselves as they have for centuries. And then Hitler happened. Hitler was an actual threat to the entire world. Try again. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch <cite>redrocket posted [p:658106] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> yoshifan823 posted...1941 redrocket posted...I don't give a damn who overruns the europe because they are separated from the US by a vast ocean. Also, the one and only reason anyone over there is hostile to the US is because we support Jews. Take away that support and they stop giving a damn and return to squabbling amongst themselves as they have for centuries.And then Hitler happened.Hitler was an actual threat to the entire world. Try again. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VincentLauw 01/13/12 3:39:00 PM #112:	From: redrocket \| #111 *yoshifan823 posted...* 1941 redrocket posted... I don't give a damn who overruns the europe because they are separated from the US by a vast ocean. Also, the one and only reason anyone over there is hostile to the US is because we support Jews. Take away that support and they stop giving a damn and return to squabbling amongst themselves as they have for centuries. And then Hitler happened. Hitler was an actual threat to the entire world. Try again. You do realize WHY we haven't had a WW3 yet, right? -- http://img.imgcake.com/tyler4gifyj.gif <cite>VincentLauw posted [p:658107] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> From: redrocket \| #111yoshifan823 posted...1941 redrocket posted...I don't give a damn who overruns the europe because they are separated from the US by a vast ocean. Also, the one and only reason anyone over there is hostile to the US is because we support Jews. Take away that support and they stop giving a damn and return to squabbling amongst themselves as they have for centuries.And then Hitler happened.Hitler was an actual threat to the entire world. Try again.You do realize WHY we haven't had a WW3 yet, right? -- http://img.imgcake.com/tyler4gifyj.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OmarsComin 01/13/12 3:41:00 PM #113:	because everyones got nukes and so major countries never attack each other anymore now we just beat up defenseless small countries, better for everyone <cite>OmarsComin posted [p:658108] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> because everyones got nukes and so major countries never attack each other anymorenow we just beat up defenseless small countries, better for everyone </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 01/13/12 3:41:00 PM #114:	*VincentLauw posted...* You do realize WHY we haven't had a WW3 yet, right? Because we have thousands of nuclear warheads and by far the most advanced and effective delivery systems for those warheads. It's not because of us intervening in every little regional conflict on the other side of the world. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch <cite>redrocket posted [p:658109] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> VincentLauw posted...You do realize WHY we haven't had a WW3 yet, right?Because we have thousands of nuclear warheads and by far the most advanced and effective delivery systems for those warheads. It's not because of us intervening in every little regional conflict on the other side of the world. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Altimadark 01/13/12 10:07:00 PM #115:	*Uglyface2 posted...* How about we leave the Middle East entirely, let Iran run roughshod over the region, and figure out later where we're going to get our oil? We already get most of our oil from Mexico and Canada, and we have quite a bit in our own country that the fed just doesn't let us access. -- There never was a post. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and refracted the light from Venus. <cite>Altimadark posted [p:658110] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> Uglyface2 posted...How about we leave the Middle East entirely, let Iran run roughshod over the region, and figure out later where we're going to get our oil?We already get most of our oil from Mexico and Canada, and we have quite a bit in our own country that the fed just doesn't let us access. -- There never was a post. Swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and refracted the light from Venus. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heroic Mass Carrier 01/13/12 10:08:00 PM #116:	because people want indie cred* in more than just music tastes.* Indie cred...must...resist...will not...say...that evil... word. -- I won't do what you tell me. http://www.last.fm/user/maplejet <cite>Heroic Mass Carrier posted [p:658111] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> because people want indie cred in more than just music tastes.Indie cred...must...resist...will not...say...that evil... word. -- I won't do what you tell me.http://www.last.fm/user/maplejet </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_DK 01/13/12 10:16:00 PM #117:	I have a Palestinian friend who drives through 6 Israeli checkpoints to come to school in the US. During the summers he lives in a refugee camp. He grew up throwing rocks at Israeli tanks because that was the only weapon he had. His brother was kidnapped last year for the 2nd time. His family suspects that it is because the night before, his brother had a loud political conversation where he expressed his anti-Israeli sentiments. I don't claim to be a scholar on the region, but Israel is far from perfect. The Palestinian people have become slaves to their oppression. pretty much this. Israel is far from perfect. This is more than just "Israel is perfect and the rest of the middle east are all dicks". -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DK Currently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II <cite>Metal_DK posted [p:658112] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> I have a Palestinian friend who drives through 6 Israeli checkpoints to come to school in the US. During the summers he lives in a refugee camp. He grew up throwing rocks at Israeli tanks because that was the only weapon he had. His brother was kidnapped last year for the 2nd time. His family suspects that it is because the night before, his brother had a loud political conversation where he expressed his anti-Israeli sentiments.I don't claim to be a scholar on the region, but Israel is far from perfect. The Palestinian people have become slaves to their oppression.pretty much this. Israel is far from perfect. This is more than just "Israel is perfect and the rest of the middle east are all dicks". -- Pride. Passion. Excellence. Metal_DKCurrently playing: Sengoku Rance, Starcraft II </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
red sox 777 01/13/12 11:30:00 PM #118:	Isn't the exact point all Ron Paul supporters are trying to make that he stays true to his beliefs and that they want him to make them true in the US whether or not that would happen when he'd be elected president is not the point I want Ron Paul to make changes, because he's the only candidate who will make real changes. I don't necessarily want him to enact his entire platform, but I'm not really afraid of that happening, because Congress will stop the really far out ideas. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pick your 7 time champion, Link. <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:658113] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> Isn't the exact point all Ron Paul supporters are trying to make that he stays true to his beliefs and that they want him to make them true in the USwhether or not that would happen when he'd be elected president is not the pointI want Ron Paul to make changes, because he's the only candidate who will make real changes. I don't necessarily want him to enact his entire platform, but I'm not really afraid of that happening, because Congress will stop the really far out ideas. -- Congratulations to SuperNiceDog, Guru Winner, who was smart enough to pickyour 7 time champion, Link. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
special_sauce 01/14/12 7:47:00 AM #119:	From: Uglyface2 \| #043 How about we leave the Middle East entirely, let Iran run roughshod over the region, and figure out later where we're going to get our oil? We'll have to figure out what to do without oil in less than 50 years anyway! source: http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/30/less-than-50-years-of-oil-left-hsbc-warns/ -- Me_Pie_Three wants a SuperNiceDog for Christmas http://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/special-sauce-is-my-friend.jpg <cite>special_sauce posted [p:658114] in What's... [t:61635760]...</cite> <quote> From: Uglyface2 \| #043How about we leave the Middle East entirely, let Iran run roughshod over the region, and figure out later where we're going to get our oil?We'll have to figure out what to do without oil in less than 50 years anyway!source: http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/03/30/less-than-50-years-of-oil-left-hsbc-warns/ -- Me_Pie_Three wants a SuperNiceDog for Christmashttp://img2.moonbuggy.org/imgstore/special-sauce-is-my-friend.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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