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futuresuperstar 02/06/12 1:31:00 PM #1: |
I just got to Fort Frolic for the first time after deploying the Lazarus Vector. Neat atmosphere, definitely well done... I'm just pretty over the combat and don't feel particular connected to anything to want to find out what happened in Rapture.
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red13n 02/06/12 1:32:00 PM #2: |
combat stays about the same.
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Highwind89 02/06/12 1:33:00 PM #3: |
Fort Frolic best part in the game due to Sander Cohen. Unfortunately, ending really goes downhill.
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SomeKindOfJoke 02/06/12 1:34:00 PM #4: |
It is about to get much worse.
EDIT: Misread the OP. Fort Frolic is the best part of the game; everything AFTER that is pretty bad. -- What is this, some kind of joke?! Go, then. There are other worlds than these. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Uglyface2 02/06/12 1:37:00 PM #5: |
At least stick around for THE BIG SPOILER. It's pretty well done. You'll know it when you reach it.
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futuresuperstar 02/06/12 1:40:00 PM #6: |
The game goes downhill from here? Ugh. That's not very promising at all. I mean, it's not bad, by any means. I just have very little desire to keep playing it. I've got Deus Ex: Human Revolution waiting in the wings... very tempting.
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Kamekguy 02/06/12 1:40:00 PM #7: |
Finish the next two areas and then you can stop. Pretty much all the buzz goes out of the game after those, unless you really like insane Chinese surgeons without any morality.
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pjbasis 02/06/12 1:41:00 PM #8: |
It's a great game through and through and you should feel bad.
However Fort Frolic is the best. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 02/06/12 1:41:00 PM #9: |
From: Uglyface2 | Posted: 2/6/2012 4:37:24 PM | #005 this -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/kamaro.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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futuresuperstar 02/06/12 1:42:00 PM #10: |
How much longer until OMG SPOILER?
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Metal_DK 02/06/12 1:43:00 PM #11: |
most overrated game of the gen
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tee316 02/06/12 1:46:00 PM #12: |
As stated this is about as good as the game gets.
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FashnQueenEtna 02/06/12 1:55:00 PM #13: |
Fort Frolic is the best part in the game, but the entire game is really good.
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Not Dave 02/06/12 1:55:00 PM #14: |
what the hell is going on in this topic
it's a fantastic game and is great throughout -- ND ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOceIot 02/06/12 2:01:00 PM #15: |
One of the best games this generation. Keep playing, at least until the plot twist.
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Emporer_Kazbar 02/06/12 2:02:00 PM #16: |
From: Metal_DK | #011 I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. -- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09) SuperNiceDog: Guru winner ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XxSoulxX 02/06/12 2:02:00 PM #17: |
I've tried going through that game 4 times now. I don't know why everyone thinks it's a great game. Half-Life 2 did everything Bioshock did years before it came out, and a lot better at that.
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masterplum 02/06/12 2:02:00 PM #18: |
From: Metal_DK | #011 what is this nonsense -- Why is plum the smartest player in the topic today? Truly this is a landmark moment in Board 8 Mafia - Luis_Sera89 http://i.imgur.com/uTK2o.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 02/06/12 2:05:00 PM #19: |
From: XxSoulxX | Posted: 2/6/2012 5:02:32 PM | #017 ... what does Half-Life have to do with Bioshock? -- http://img.imgcake.com/GuessMyUserName/kamaro.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FashnQueenEtna 02/06/12 2:13:00 PM #20: |
From: XxSoulxX | #057 What? No it didn't. A lot of similar FPS elements are in it because FPS has been based on HL2 for a while now, but that statement is a huge simplification. -- Chrono1219 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Uglyface2 02/06/12 2:14:00 PM #21: |
futuresuperstar posted...
How much longer until OMG SPOILER? Fort Frolic, one more big section, and then you should be there. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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futuresuperstar 02/06/12 2:39:00 PM #22: |
Man, I don't think I can make it that far. I don't think the game is bad, I just think it's incredibly boring once you've done the combat for a bit. Harvesting / rescuing the little sisters is the only gameplay bit I've been interested in.
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KamikazePotato 02/06/12 2:42:00 PM #23: |
Just get to the twist and stop. Game peaks there, and the twist is DEFINITELY worth seeing.
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FashnQueenEtna 02/06/12 2:51:00 PM #24: |
What difficulty are you playing the game on?
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futuresuperstar 02/06/12 3:05:00 PM #25: |
The normal difficulty, as always. It's definitely challenging sometimes, I've died plenty.
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foolm0ron 02/06/12 3:13:00 PM #26: |
I will also back up the advice to stop after the big spoiler. Pretend the game ends right there, because it goes straight downhill afterwards.
Fort Frolic is amazing, though. I hope you're only at the beginning of it, and not at the end, because it has some really cool stuff. I agree that the combat is mediocre. Basically all I used was frozen wrench + bees/lightning throughout the entire game. Stickies + gas can for big daddies. Bioshock 2 improves the combat quite a bit, but if you don't like the first, you probably won't like that one either. -- _foolmo_ 'Ulti is like when your parents post something on your facebook status' - Sir Cobain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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futuresuperstar 02/06/12 3:46:00 PM #27: |
Hrm. Sounds like a twist is good, but I really want it to just happen now. Two areas could easily turn into an hour or two of gaming with all the exploring and random directions you can go (especially with how difficult it is to make sense of the map with all of the arrows and such).
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SomeKindOfJoke 02/06/12 3:58:00 PM #28: |
I'm probably the only one who thinks this but the twist wasn't really that impressive, and you wouldn't really lose much by just watching it on Youtube. The area between Fort Frolic and the twist is long and boring.
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pjbasis 02/06/12 3:59:00 PM #29: |
Jesus they're crawling out of the freakin' floorboards.
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futuresuperstar 02/06/12 4:24:00 PM #30: |
I ended up watching the twist on YouTube, heh. It was a neat gag (I actually noticed the phrase a few times earlier), good atmosphere... but yeah, game just wasn't my thing. Neat idea, though, for sure.
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Not Dave 02/06/12 4:26:00 PM #31: |
this topic makes me sad
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VincentLauw 02/06/12 4:28:00 PM #32: |
I liked your first phrasing better ND. I literally was about to quote it and when I did you'd already changed it
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futuresuperstar 02/06/12 4:29:00 PM #33: |
I'm sorry =( I just couldn't really get into the game through Fort Frolic. I loved the atmosphere, but I just didn't get invested into anything else besides it.
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Uglyface2 02/06/12 5:32:00 PM #34: |
Hell.
SPOILERS. The twist is much better playing through than it is watching it. The approach, Andrew Ryan telling you what a disappointment you are, then coming on the bulletin board and listening to the two recordings... realizing you've been played the entire time, what seemed like a charming quirk turning out to be a key plot point... All I can say is, you missed out. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Takfloyd_mkII__ 02/06/12 5:32:00 PM #35: |
Bioshock is really overrated.
I think the reason it got so popular is because it introduced a crapton of casual FPS gamers to the concept of "atmosphere". For someone who's only played Call of Duty and Counter Strike, it must have seemed like the best thing ever. But when it comes down to it, it's just a boring story with generic gameplay. -- Signature change in progress... Please wait. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PartOfYourWorld 02/06/12 5:45:00 PM #36: |
Bioshock came out before CoD exploded, though. The casual FPS gamers of the day were probably hooked on Halo, but whatever.
I love the game in large part because it was my introduction to HD gaming. The visuals were simply stunning, and the game's combined it with that feel-good 1950s music to deliver a really haunting atmosphere. It still has one of the most beautiful and unique game worlds I've ever seen. The combat could get a little played out because there wasn't much enemy variety, but there were so many different ways to deal with them that the player could always experiment to keep things interesting. The weapon variety was solid, and paired with the plasmids, you had tons of ways to heap death upon your foes. Come on, tell me that using Telekinesis to kill one baddy with the body of another isn't an awesome feeling. It does stumble across the finish line as others have said, but overall I still consider it an outstanding game and a cut above Half-Life 2. -- Yoblazer: http://oi52.tinypic.com/ad21i1.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Takfloyd_mkII__ 02/06/12 5:48:00 PM #37: |
HD gaming
Yeah, this is another big point. The visuals were a step up from what most people were used to, which helped drive the hype. But since when did graphics make the game? -- Signature change in progress... Please wait. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KamikazePotato 02/06/12 5:48:00 PM #38: |
Bioshock is a game with a good atmosphere, good writing, and extremely lackluster gameplay. And while the TWIST is one of the best ever, it offers very little in terms of characters to get invested in. Good game, but it gets pretty overrated in general.
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GuessMyUserName 02/06/12 5:50:00 PM #39: |
yeah this topic is terrible
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PartOfYourWorld 02/06/12 5:50:00 PM #40: |
It's not just the polygon count, but what the game managed to do with it. Rapture is a simply stunning world. HL2 probably does have Bioshock's number purely in terms of gameplay, but Bioshock's atmosphere is superior enough to bridge that gap.
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SomeKindOfJoke 02/06/12 6:12:00 PM #41: |
From: KamikazePotato | #038 I legitimately don't get why people say this, and I'd love it if one of the Bioshock fans in this topic can explain. SPOILERS Take away the mind control aspect, and the twist is a pretty generic betrayal involving three characters who you really have no vested interest in. All the mind control bit does is add unnecessary complication (Why did Fontaine bother disguising his voice or staging his 'family's' death, besides for the benefit of the player?) that creates a weird feeling of separation between you and the main character, who is supposed to be your avatar. The jab at gaming and player agency would be kind of cool if they had done something like turned the game open-world and let you decide how to proceed from that point, but the rest of the game is just as linear and restrictive as everything before the twist, like they had no idea how to finish the story. Not to say that the moment wasn't reasonably well-done, but I really don't see why it gets so much praise. -- What is this, some kind of joke?! Go, then. There are other worlds than these. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lightning Strikes 02/06/12 6:12:00 PM #42: |
I was very disappointed by Bioshock given the hype myself. The combat isn't great, the game thrives on repetitive fetch quests which really have no place in this sort of game, and even the atmosphere and story, the game's high points, weren't exactly perfect. Very lacking in execution, particularly the narrative and the way it goes from amazing to awful in act 3. Poor implementation of moral choices too (what was even the point?). And frankly, for all the talk of the game's graphics... This game had really bad graphics, even for its time. The environments look ugly, the character models look hideous and-this is the part where it gets unforgivable-there's only 9 of them. In a game with dozens of NPCs. And only two unique ones. You have major, major characters who are palette swaps of generic enemies! Way to break immersion.
It's just not that good overall. The sequel fixes some of it but manages to lose almost everything good about the first game and just creates further problems. But don't get me wrong. I really wanted to like Bioshock, it had a great setting and an ambitious concept. But the actual game was lacking in the delivery. I am super-hyped for Infinite though. -- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 02/06/12 6:20:00 PM #43: |
From: SomeKindOfJoke | #041 That is definitely a big reason the game goes downhill after that. Though one big reason the game was made was just to be a proof of concept for a modern System Shock 2. First they had to prove that you could do a game like System Shock 2 with today's audience, and now that they have proven that, they are pulling out all the stops for Infinite. -- _foolmo_ 'You are obviously intelligent and insightful' - Sir Chris about me ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 02/06/12 6:40:00 PM #44: |
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SomeKindOfJoke 02/06/12 6:42:00 PM #45: |
From: HeroDelTiempo17 | #044 See From: SomeKindOfJoke | #041 The idea has been done better by other games, anyway. -- What is this, some kind of joke?! Go, then. There are other worlds than these. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KCF0107 02/06/12 6:45:00 PM #46: |
I regret entering this topic for now I am overcome with sadness
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HeroDelTiempo17 02/06/12 6:45:00 PM #47: |
Crap what the hell, there goes my post.
Anyways I was GOING to add that a case could be made that the continual linearity of the game could be seen as intentional deprecation of the player by the developers, but I'm not sure if that was intentional or not. At the very least, the only choice they gave you that affects the plot was...well, really, really bad, and the endings were pretty awful to be honest. But mainly I don't think it was ever about the characters at all. -- You have no time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball. http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZX_Lucian 02/06/12 6:46:00 PM #48: |
From: futuresuperstar | #006 Deus Ex Human Retardation, good? OH LOL -- ...But can he/she/it/they see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch? "It is not a crime to exist.' Avenger, Fate/Stay night ... Copied to Clipboard!
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futuresuperstar 02/06/12 6:46:00 PM #49: |
I pretty much went through the game only using Telekinesis and throwing literally everything at people, so I definitely had fun in that regard. Hahahaha.
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HeroDelTiempo17 02/06/12 6:48:00 PM #50: |
The best plasmid was BEES, no matter how bad it actually was, not that I'm sure if you'd even encounter the bee plasmid at the point you stopped at.
Although maybe the reason you got bored is because you didn't experiment with the different powers. <_< -- You have no time to ponder such questions, as Link has just grabbed a Smash Ball. http://backloggery.com/herodeltiempo/sig.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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